No they actually didn't they leave things out and cut it in a way that makes it more dramatic and not as true to the facts. Read a few of the books written by the people involved and you'll see what i mean.
@chocolatetownforever7537 Robert Shapiro said "not only did we play the race card, but we played it from the bottom of the deck". They proved that one of the most important detectives in this case was a racist and a liar. That alone gave the jury doubt. Don't kid yourself.
Without Fuhrman they might've gotten a hung jury. But the prosecution made a mistake in jury selection thinking that black women would sympathize with Nicole because of the beatings OJ gave her. When in fact it was the opposite. They saw her as a gold digger who 'took' one of the few successful black men in that community who was living in the rich white neighborhoods so there was a considerable amount of contempt and jealousy. Johnnie understood the racial makeup of the jury and how to play to their emotions. The line Darden gives from the miniseries sums it up perfectly - "you only wanted a black face on this team - you never wanted a black voice".
OJ got lucky in a sense that this man’s past racist record went in Simpson’s favour. The defence played this card to its fullest and it was the primary reason why a murderer (in my opinion) was acquitted.x
Is it possible to be a non-racist person? If so, when a person is a past racist, logically that person can be racist in present day? At what point are they not racist? O.J. was and still is innocent
@@markwhite8332 if u live in the U.S. I know u know we learned from the best and were those emojis suppose to offend me lol good 1 Mr.white just call me 1
O.J had a knife wound on his hand, owned the gloves and shoes in the same exact size and people are calling Furhman suspicious. Now that's called bias.
@usergodcandy777Are you 2 just stupid or just a plain dumb racist? The gloves DID NOT FIT, OJ’s blood HAD EDTA IN IT, to where he would have to be dead to have that come from his body, Nobody has yet to explain the EDTA in the blood samples, but you dirtbags are still gonna say none of the evidence matters he’s guilty no matter what,,, racist bastards
Here's the thing. The glove didn't have a corresponding cut where his finger was injured. The socks had mirror image stains, which can't happen while being worn. It's not illogical to put together that Fuhrman took the glove to Oj's, transferred blood to the Bronco with the glove, and left the glove conveniently outside where he "found" it.
You know what is Funny? Furhman was the only person convicted in the OJ trial lol, isn't that Ironic? OJ wasn't even scared! What an intelligent & support talented Guy.😂😂...
Furman's racism was a separate issue from ojs guilt. Oj reminds me a great deal of my ex who was very likeable and charismatic , but very dangerous. Add to that the star quality and his all American persona...plus the amazing legal team he was able to engage. The truth never had a chance.
The part where they showed a photo OJ smiling after Sydney's dance recital didn't mean anything. It was a millisecond of time, but the defense suggested "Oh, how could this happy smiling man slaughter two people just a few hours later?" And the jury fell for it.
@@kepler240 people fall for many things unfortunately. And the smarter the representation the better they are at doing it. The better they are the more they charge which leaves anyone with little money (or celebrity status...or nationwide coverage, which is money at days end)..with alot less of a chance. It's so calibrated that it's just jaw dropping.
Pride is always greatest before the fall. While I do believe Fuhrman has many more racist thoughts than they downplayed here, he had a perfect chance to say "you know, I MAY have used that word in frustration at times and I'm not proud of it" and it would've been much easier to believe him about not planting evidence - which he obviously didn't do. But Bailey had frustrated him by making wild and baseless accusations earlier in cross so Fuhrman was salty inside and wanted to show Bailey up. This is exactly what Bailey wanted because then his pride got in his way and he made the emphatic statement about never using racial language when that was obviously a lie. I've said it before about him - it's very possible to be a bad person morally but be a good cop who will follow procedure. Fuhrman is such a person.
OJ lives near me in Las Vegas. I run into him at the local supermarket. He drives a new black Bentley convertible. Lucky for OJ that murder in Los Angeles is legal.
You know if I had a dollar for every comment I read on various TH-cam videos about people on here inventing some fantasy about running into a celebrity figure to draw attention to themselves I would be a very rich person by now.
Exactly! Where would Furhman have even gotten a second bloody glove if the scene was already secure? The defense argument made absolutly no sense whatsoever!
Even more absurd than that is the theory that Fuhrman finds a glove at Bundy, picks it up to take to Rockingham to frame OJ without knowing if OJ was out of town during the murders or at a public event at the time of the murders etc… it’s all absurd.
Kathleen Bell is/was very irrelevant in this trial. '85 she sees MF thru the recruiting window & makes inquiries about him? They never dated. Offended at their 2nd Convo yet she goes to Hennessey's bar where she knows he goes? He shows up w/another woman then reports his language to the PD? Fast forward '95 she injects herself into the trial by calling the News, Shapiro, Cochran, writes a letter, witness for defense & hires her own lawyer? Ridiculous. I think she's a bored & rejected gossip.
Interviewer: Do you think that there were members of the jury that voted to acquit O.J. because of Rodney King. Juror Carrie Bess: Yes. Interviewer: How many of you do you think felt that way? Juror Carrie Bess: Oh, probably 90% of us. Interviewer: Did you feel that way? Juror Carrie Bess: Yes.
Wasn’t there another juror that said Fuhrman and the glove demonstration had nothing to do with it, they chose not guilty because of the state’s slopiness?
There is no doubt in my mind this had everything to do with Rodney King and this was a way to give the middle finger to the LAPD and the judicial system. It’s unfortunate because two people got killed and their families didn’t get justice because some people were pissed off about another injustice.
It’s so clear in this episode that Mark Fuhrman still just doesn’t get it. He sounds so defensive when it’s clear he’s said some awful things and needs to learn from it
and exactly wtf does that have to do with the murder of 2 people??...see, its airheads like you that was on that jury. Judge let all that garbage into that trial...if he used the n word in the last 10 years, how dumb is that. Simpson hated blacks more than Furman ever did...he couldnt wait to ditch his black wife and get the 19 year old blonde beach bunny nicole. Furman saved more black lives as a cop than Simpson ever did. God, women like you are so dumb..cant trust them to do important work..too emotional and dont think.
@@sksimmons1336 was the only one to do his job properly that night...but hey, if thats the kind of city they want...to let murderers go free, so be it, Mark just did his job. Its great, after it was all said and done, Furman ended up being the most successful...great author, television guest..he made a fortune. Good for him...all the others are looked at as losers, they all just faded away..AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
But that is totally irrelevant to the actual case. Furhman could not have planted anything because the original crime scene was already secured by the LAPD before he got there. The defense used emotions over facts.
Let's get real here for a moment. Fuhrman was a street cop first in the roughest of the roughest neighborhoods. You had to be extremely tough to survive that kind of life. Did he say some racist things? Absolutely but then I am sure 99% of the population does behind closed doors, he was just foolish enough to have it all tape recorded for a screenplay. It still doesn't change the fact that OJ butchered two innocent people to death and no, Mark Fuhrman did not plant a glove in this case. That would have been impossible for him to do given that he wasn't the first officer on the seen at Bundy and all of the officers testified under oath to seeing only one glove and because we live in the real world and not the world of far fetched conspiracies it's evident Fuhrman did his job correctly in the OJ crime scene investigation. As for F Lee Bailey he got disbarred in disgrace shortly after this trial so he wasn't as great as some people think he was.
Vanatter , testified to the fact that notations of the Rockingham estate investigation were missing How is it relevant to not being planted evidence How did a crime scene that wasn't a crime scene happen? Your point is that Simpson would murder Nicole Brown, near his children, Then take the evidence back to the Rockingham estate in the Bronco that the police kept under surveillance because he -( Simpson) wanted to look guilty
Wait a minute. If Furhman planted the glove at OJ house, where would he have gotten another glove when the the original crime scene was already secure hours before Furhman's arrival? The defense wasnt masterful...they basically pandered to the jury
I still think he was more honest than F. Lee Bailey. What Fuhrman's use of the N word had to do with OJ Simpson's DNA being all over the crime scene is still beyond me. I thought Bailey looked like a grandstanding fool.
@@riverebec1 he lied on the stand. He said he never used the n word. He’s a liar and a racist. When they asked him if he planted evidence in this case he plead the 5th wtf in the jury supposed to do?
@@riverebec1I think what you mean is Lang is the one who looks the most shady to me. He threw others under the bus during his testimony. And, his interviews during these clips show he truly is trying to distance himself from the screw ups of his department. As they said, Lang became a better witness for the defense than he did for the state, because Lang admitted to mistake after mistake after mistake. Yet, in these interviews all he says is “we’re human. Mistake will be made! There’s mistake in every investigation!” Hmm no there isn’t. Not when you’re a 20 years homicide detective, Mr. lang!
3 things: 1. 95% likelihood that OJ did it. 2. BOTH the criminal & Civil verdicts were correct. 3. As soon as Fuhrman plead the 5th, the jury had no choice but to acquit, full stop.
When asked under oath (with the jury not present), Fuhrman declined to answer all questions, invoking his Fifth Amendment right. These questions included whether he planted or manufactured evidence. Fuhrman retired from the LAPD in 1995. They got Furman when they showed that he was a racist, because of the makeup and educational level of the jury coupled with OJs celebrity at the time. This was a time before smartphones and social media.
Hush your STUPID mouth about Mark Furhman is a racist....being a Murderer and being a racist, which one is worst....I really hate to hear low IQ people like you talk foolish stuff 🙄🙄🙄
Oddly enough, detective Furman tried to retire before this happened on the basis that he was too racist to do his job properly and it was rejected. He pled no contest to the purjury charges that came later. He should have just told the truth. Everyone was racist back then just about. Some people still are.....but I remember people saying that Nicole got what she deserved because she married outside of her race back then. It was not as acceptable to do that in the 1990s. Nope.
Yes but his character flaws were completly irrelevant to the actual case. Furhman literally was called straight out of bed at 1am to the original crime scene that was already secure. How the hell would he have gotten a second bloody glove? As far as race, he didn't even know OJ was even involved! How would he have planted evidence that he would not have even had access to against someone he didnt even know would have been black?!
Kaelin's head probably hit the wall or headboard behind him when he dozed off lying in bed after toking up. There was no earthquake and there were no bumps... Why anyone even paid any attention to what that "Air Head" recollected is beyond my understanding. Might as well of asked "Chachi" the dog about what he saw.
Hogwash!! It’s not about saying the “n” word!! It’s about the professed hatred he expressed in those tapes toward interracial couples (specifically white women and black men)!!! And it’s BS to claim it’s a screenplay! He said similar crazy stuff to the compensation committee, when he was requesting hazard pay!! He simply never thought it will come out … This guy is shady as hell. And he’s the one who “found” that glove! And he knew the Rockingham property well, having been there following one of OJ and Nicole’s fights.
Yeah, I agree. Darden wrote in his book he'd never heard any lawyer "serenade" a jury with the 'n' word so often and with such relish. Bailey's reputation as a courtroom "legend" is wildly overrated. You should hear what Patty Hearst has to say about how badly he handled her defense, if you haven't already. 🙂
@@manthony777 lol Like the true crime junkie I am, I've just been arguing about Hearst also. I do believe she was initially a hostage but that doesn't completely excuse how many very serious crimes she committed in 19 months! That's a different thing from Stockholm Syndrome IMO.
Regardless of your thoughts on Furhman's arrogant demeanor and self-absorbed traits, he is spot on with the Race card being at the forefront and how none of the Charades meany OJ wasn't guilty. Marcia Clark let him be badgered repeatedly by Bailey then "gave up" as he stated. It was a smart Defensive tactic to play on the Race piece to then state Furhman planted the glove at Simpsons residenc.
I read Tom Lange's book "Evidence Dismissed", along with Vincent Bugliosi's book "Outrage". BOTH outstanding reads about these murders, and the unacceptable resulting travesty that took place because of the Los Angeles DA's office and its incompetence during this entire case from the beginning. I highly recommend them for anyone interested in this case, as I am and always have been.
@@randallrhoads3271 exactly... and it was lang and vannatter's decision to go to Rockingham. Don't try to reason with these morons. all they know is what they see on tv or hear from other people. lost causes...all of them.
Yeah, you SHOULD use your 5th amendment rights when being asked obtuse, retarded questions that have no relevance when there is a wealth of physical evidence supporting your side
@@Eastvanucks no he didn’t. It was impossible. Oj lost that glove on the side of the house when he banged into the Air conditioner of Kato room which made that sound. Oj got clumsy lost the glove. He was in a rush to get rid of whatever evidence he had and fly out to Chicago.
Female laying in pool of blood at the front door of the property and he says he had no idea who it is . Despite knowing it’s OJ simpsons Ex wife house . Right yeah ok .
Detectives aren't allowed to touch or move the victim. Nicole's face wasn't visible. She was laying face down, hair in her face and covered with blood. Police cannot assume things. It could be anyone laying there. A friend, a neighbor, a passerby, a sister, anybody. Why are you criticizing a police officer instead of a murdering wife abuser? Talk about bias.....
Now one could argue that he was trying to frame Kato? The boom against the air-conditionaire was so that Kato would come out and pick up the bloody glove ?
Furhman is crazy. What a dumbass. Racist and bigots he is how you look to the rest of society just so you know. He is a worser human being than the actual murderer.
That's an interesting take. Does seem odd to stumble into someone's room and drop a glove when you could have dropped it anywhere. I believe Oj did it, but there are a lot of questions un-answered.
Kato heard 3 thumps. Why would OJ fall into a wall 3 times? Maybe OJ did think about framing Kato, but why bring evidence onto your own property? There's more to this, which is why we're still captivated by it.
Cops have a device known as a slim Jim to unlock doors. Mark Fuhrer is a scumwad cop that's not above doing whatever it takes to bag an ethnic minority suspect.
Fuhrman is innocent. Cochran and Bailey were guilty of contempt of court. OJ is guilty of murder. If you really believe Fuhrman using the n-word was basis for reasonable doubt, then you're essentially saying that had all the skin colors been reversed and Fuhrman had said "white motherfuckers", it would still have been ok for a white OJ to walk after killing a black Nicole and Ron. Suck on it.
I can’t even place OJ at the scene it just doesn’t add up how could he possibly kill 2 in a 25 minute time span and managed to get in time for his flight
It makes absolute sense. read some of the books on the subject and not just 30 second social media things. Also... the murders probably happened at 10 or a little after... OJ got back home at 1040 when Kato heard him hitting the air conditioner behind his room. Remember the woman who saw OJ leaving the crime scene and even accurately write down his plate? No... of course you didn't
I was on a 2 week trial as a juror and the court most DEFINITELY took the notebooks from all the jurors!! The bailiff even counted the notebooks and made sure the numbers matched!!!
The dream team left something out . Why didn't investigators find drops of blood in the grass behind the guest house ? It was summertime and the forecast didn't call for rain .
Are people forgetting especially Det. Furman that is the defense’s JOB to “win” the case by any means other than breaking the law. They did their job and got their client off.
@@coreywashington5440They probably mean thank you like thank you, Mark Fuhrman for being a racist, pleading the 5th when questioned if he ever planted evidence at a crime scene and basically making it a no brainer for the jury.
@@shawnmckinney8352 It shouldn't have been allowed in court at all. It would be like Penny Azcarate letting Elaine Bredehoft ask all of Johnny Depp's witnesses if they use the word "dyke" to describe bisexual women.
@@jbone9900 Thats pure bullshit and you know it. Thats like saying a black cop who said some make believe anti-white things in character for a fictional screenplay would manufacture evidence to frame a rich white man for killing his black wife and her black friend, on the basis that the black cop was racist against whites. I doubt the black population would believe that theory, they'd have called the lawyer racist for suggesting it. Like the black LA police chief said at the time, its something out of Disneyland. There's a reason why OJ has hinted multiple times that he killed Nicole and Ron, even helped write a book and gave an interview about it, yet Fuhrman to this day has denied planting evidence and has admitted that everything he said was for the screenplay, and the FBI cleared him of any wrongdoing and exponged his perjury conviction.
Because blood is a liquid and a sock is a porous cloth material… Lay down a sock on the floor and drop some ketchup on it. Give it a little time and see it seeps through to the other side.
@Nick L. Thats exactly what the LAPD did, layed down a sock and dripped blood on it, so it ended up on both sides. If you're wearing a sock, that wouldn't happen. Good job defending OJ.
At the end of the day it was reasonable doubt in this case point blank . You don't have to prove one is innocent but create reasonable doubt and in this case, reasonable doubt is an understatement
OJ had other scratches on his hand. At the civil trial, photos of his hand with the cut finger also showed half-moon shaped scratches on the same hand. Nicole's nails did that fighting for her life!! R.I.P. Nicole and Ron.
No, they are his property. My question is how did he have time to write so many detailed notes with people talking so fast? Court reporters have to use an extremely shortened version of the english language to keep up. Dude must write incredibly fast, even if hes not writing down everything said.
The jury notes were the property of the juror under California law at the time. So Cryer was allowed to take those notes with him and do whatever he wanted with them.
I would have thought Mark Fuhrman's first thought while on the witness stand would have been that he never should have talked to that would-be screenwriter not that he never should have picked up the phone.
Simpson pulled up to the Rockingham gate, went to go in his house, looked over at the Ashford gate, saw the limo/driver waiting, panicked and went to go in thru the back door by going on the path behing the guest houses. Its pitch black back there and he walks right into the A/C unit and drops the glove. Thats the sound Kato hears on his wall. Simpsons goes back to go inside. The limo driver sees simpson coming from the garage area and almost at the exact same time, he also sees kato walking from the other side with a flashlight to investigate what he heard. And there goes your ignorant planted glove theory. Fuhrman did an excellent job that night. It was the 2 "star" cops Lange and Van Atter who made mistake after mistake. Just stupid stuff. Especially the next day they got to interview simpson without an attorney and totally blew it...just let him ramble on and on...they were star struck and choked. And the were ROBBERY/HOMICIDE cops. supposedly the best of the best. They blew it.
i don't think he left the glove there on purpose, i'm sure it was left by accident! Simpson wanted to make it look like he was in Chicago when the murders happened, he was in a rush to get to the airport and made many mistakes that night!
@@USArmy91222 I don’t think he did it. Doesn’t make sense. Ron had defense wounds on his hands, OJ had no marks but a little scratch on his finger. Evidence: * etda found on the blood back gate * edta found on the socks. * no marks on OJ * those socks weren’t there originally when they took video of OJ house.
@@USArmy91222 glove was planted by Fuhrman. Read F Lee Bailey’s book he mentioned that Fuhrman planted the glove to stay on the case. He got caught mentioning it before the trial without him there is no glove. He planted it to stay in the case
@@eddiewinehosen6665 The circumstantial evidence is in not knowing what led to Nicole Browns murder. More specific to the point what was Nicole Brown doing? Other than being a victim ?
18 pairs of feet (36 feet) or 9 pairs of feet (18). I think there were not 18 pairs of feet. Regardless, I don't think it mattered. There was only 1 glove at the scene before Fuhrman ever arrived.
Its may understanding jurors are not allowed to take home their notes, anyone know? Fuhrman still off balance about law and rights, the job of a defense attorney is to defend to the maximum his client within the law which he did. Also Fuhrman says how can they use the race card when their client is guilty as sin, he forgets police gather evidence and a judge and or jury decides guilt, not the detective. The judge allowed a little bit too much leeway in the types of questions and the racial remarks of Fuhrman 10 years before, the glove was 1 of over 100 pieces of evidence that linked OJ to the crime, but with theatrics anything can happen... believe the US was bombing Yugoslavia at that time illegally.
For them to say The judge allowing the defense to question a genocidal racist who admitted to planting evidence on blacks about his involvement in this case is absurd is absurd
He never admitted to planting evidence! In fact, he was instrumental in freeing an incarcerated black man!! He worked very diligently to get that man declared innocent, thus freeing him from prison. THAT doesn’t sound like a racist!!
Right, and without car keys or any way to get into OJ's locked vehicle, he somehow got into it, and planted Nicole, Ron and OJ's blood all mixed together inside OJ's white Bronco, too I guess. He also managed to soak one of OJ's socks in all their blood and plant it upstairs too, without anyone noticing - same for dripping his blood in long trails leading away from the crime scene, along his driveway and all throughout his house. Also, Mark apparently decided to frame OJ by planting that glove, despite not knowing at that point whether or not OJ was even actually at home that day or had an ironclad alibi, meaning he'd end up in prison for obviously planting evidence. 🙄
@@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox Great counterpoints - really made me reconsider whether he planted the glove. No one's denying Fuhrman was racist, or that the LAPD railroaded innocent black people in the past, but OJ wasn't one of them - he was however, really rich, and as usual, rich people can literally afford to get away with murder.
@@JET7C0 those white male police was Jealous of ANY BLACK MAN who was FAMOUS OR RICH....even in 2024...........White Males and are the worst( the white females love us ) lol
Furman didn’t plant the glove, but he did unwittingly admit in this documentary that he lied both at the preliminary hearing and trial regarding the purpose for the officers going to the Rockingham address. He testified at both it was to notify next of kin, and that they entered the grounds without a warrant because of exigwjt circumstances (they thought someone could be injured inside because of the blood on the Bronco). In this documentary he says that after he found the bloody glove and told Vanatter, Vanatter told him “this is a crime scene,” which caused Furman to remark in seeming dismay “that’s why we’re here.” No, according to you it was to notify next of kin and then ensure no one else was harmed.
Good point. He's so shifty. Also he said he didn't know who the victim was when he showed up at Nicole's, but then asked the other officer where the Rockingham house was?? So which is it
@@jessejoseph7372 An amount of blood would have to be found to compared to the samples found at Rockingham . By comparing the samples to the crime scene , it's a foregone conclusion that anyone not covered in blood committed the murders . Where is the knife ? It's irrelevant Where are the worn bloody clothes! Where is the eyewitness Circumstantial evidence! O.k What did did Nicole Brown do, a long time ago according to the 911 call? Is Nicole Brown an innocent victim, for only being recognized as an innocent victim & nothing else ?
Lange blows Fuhrman off as being inconsequential because he wasn't a "lead detective" and was off the case early, day one, BUT that one day was VERY consequential because he's the one that found a key piece of evidence, the glove, so it was very consequential, regardless of his rank in the pecking order or his total time on the case. The glove got rocked because Fuhrman lied on the stand and he was the one who found it. Then it "didn't fit" (although it really did and OJ did his usual bad acting job pretending they didn't...)
@@KevinS702 He did find the glove. He's the one who first saw it at Rockingham. He took the Fifth to avoid self-incrimination on being asked: "Did you plant evidence/glove...?" In his previous testimony, he said NO. (Like the N-Word denial.) Here, he took the Fifth. Jury has to ignore anything he touched, including the glove. It's tainted as soon as he takes the Fifth. Period. And there were tons of holes in the case anyway. Terrible police and prosecutorial work.
@@Contractnik Exigent circumstances Concern, for Simpson"s safety Entering Rockingham, without a warrant Ok now that we know it wasn't a safety issue let's arrest him for murder. What???
F. Lee Bailey has a history of getting murderers out of trouble-Dr. Sam Sheppard comes to mind. He willingly played the ''bad guy'' in confronting Fuhrman because he himself was white. As for Sheppard's guilt, watch the ''They Got Away With Murder'' episode on the case. I have no respect for Bailey, nor for Barry Scheck and his so called ''Innocence Project'' who often make money by questioning guilty verdicts based on untested DNA found at crime scenes, even when there's no doubt as to the perpetrator. As for Detective Lange, he failed to get the bloody fingerprint on the back gate collected, so he's just covering his butt for his failures by blaming Fuhrman for the cop novel ideas/narration he was giving to the female ''screenwriter''.
Oj coming over the way with the bag of cloths,crashes into the air conditioning unit and the glove comes out the bag.We can say if the other glove aint dropped at the scene then at his house he committed the perfect crime theres no doubt he was there and he helped or he took on ron and got him first while nichole was stabbed and hit over the head.
So let me get this straight. Judge Ito ruined the case because Mark Furman use racial slurs while performing his duties as a police officer and detective. Now it makes sense
This series is excellent. Court TV did a really great job.
No they actually didn't they leave things out and cut it in a way that makes it more dramatic and not as true to the facts. Read a few of the books written by the people involved and you'll see what i mean.
Without Detective Mark Fuhrman there is no way OJ gets off. Its absolutely crazy when you think about that.
The DNA though man Barry Sceck too those criminalists to pieces!!!!!
Maybe no arrest since the gloves and other evidence doesn't get planted
That jury never would have found him guilty, regardless of anything. Dont kid yourself.
@chocolatetownforever7537 Robert Shapiro said "not only did we play the race card, but we played it from the bottom of the deck". They proved that one of the most important detectives in this case was a racist and a liar. That alone gave the jury doubt. Don't kid yourself.
Without Fuhrman they might've gotten a hung jury. But the prosecution made a mistake in jury selection thinking that black women would sympathize with Nicole because of the beatings OJ gave her. When in fact it was the opposite. They saw her as a gold digger who 'took' one of the few successful black men in that community who was living in the rich white neighborhoods so there was a considerable amount of contempt and jealousy.
Johnnie understood the racial makeup of the jury and how to play to their emotions. The line Darden gives from the miniseries sums it up perfectly - "you only wanted a black face on this team - you never wanted a black voice".
OJ got lucky in a sense that this man’s past racist record went in Simpson’s favour. The defence played this card to its fullest and it was the primary reason why a murderer (in my opinion) was acquitted.x
I think to myself if furhman wasn't called he would have still got of this was fought down racial lines
Once a racist qleays a racist
Past racist record ? What about his racist evidence planting ?
I think he also admitted on the tapes that he plants evidence
Is it possible to be a non-racist person? If so, when a person is a past racist, logically that person can be racist in present day? At what point are they not racist? O.J. was and still is innocent
Why is Fuhrman even talking in this video? He is the sole reason the prosecution lost this case. Period.
He's also the sole reason for the arrest since he was the evidence planter
Right like sir shut the hell up
I don’t think he planted anything. Nicole had said Oj would kill her and get away with it. She prophesied her own death.
@WillardJones-xf6xi you know deep in your heart oj killed nicole
I think he’s talking in the video because he’s the sole reason the prosecution lost this case
The defence doesn't have to prove Furman did anything. They only have to get the jury thinking about their theories.
Joe u can't even spell defense
The blk jury members did a Brooklyn jury, they voted not guilty based on racial connection
@@markwhite8332sound familiar??
@@markjackson1512 not at all,,, 🐒🐵🐵
@@markwhite8332 if u live in the U.S. I know u know we learned from the best and were those emojis suppose to offend me lol good 1 Mr.white just call me 1
Bailey loves himself as much as OJ loves himself
O.J had a knife wound on his hand, owned the gloves and shoes in the same exact size and people are calling Furhman suspicious. Now that's called bias.
Race card + blk privilege ÷ wht fear of being called racist
@usergodcandy777Are you 2 just stupid or just a plain dumb racist? The gloves DID NOT FIT, OJ’s blood HAD EDTA IN IT, to where he would have to be dead to have that come from his body, Nobody has yet to explain the EDTA in the blood samples, but you dirtbags are still gonna say none of the evidence matters he’s guilty no matter what,,, racist bastards
Here's the thing. The glove didn't have a corresponding cut where his finger was injured. The socks had mirror image stains, which can't happen while being worn. It's not illogical to put together that Fuhrman took the glove to Oj's, transferred blood to the Bronco with the glove, and left the glove conveniently outside where he "found" it.
@@moderusprime the cut happened after the glove came off silly.
@@optimisticcosmic You were there?
Well, I'll say this for Mark Fuhrman--he aged well.
You know what is Funny? Furhman was the only person convicted in the OJ trial lol, isn't that Ironic? OJ wasn't even scared! What an intelligent & support talented Guy.😂😂...
@@daviddavis3389 IT HURTS
Furman's racism was a separate issue from ojs guilt. Oj reminds me a great deal of my ex who was very likeable and charismatic , but very dangerous. Add to that the star quality and his all American persona...plus the amazing legal team he was able to engage.
The truth never had a chance.
True, but that's ALL the defense had. And they knew people were still angry about Rodney King and it worked.
The part where they showed a photo OJ smiling after Sydney's dance recital didn't mean anything. It was a millisecond of time, but the defense suggested "Oh, how could this happy smiling man slaughter two people just a few hours later?" And the jury fell for it.
@@kepler240 people fall for many things unfortunately. And the smarter the representation the better they are at doing it. The better they are the more they charge which leaves anyone with little money (or celebrity status...or nationwide coverage, which is money at days end)..with alot less of a chance. It's so calibrated that it's just jaw dropping.
@@AquaNikki True. And it's also why there's a lot of innocent poor people sitting in prison. They say justice is blind, but is it really?
@@kepler240 it's blind to many things, but money and power aren't two of them.
This trial taught me no one has your back, lol.
Very true, sad to say!
@@sosoo000explain
Thats why I trust no one but God almighty the father jesus christ the son and the Holy spirit
Poor OJ
@@dominiquejones3805you’re sick
Bailey with a masterclass cross examination. Smoked Fuhrman.
Fuhrman knew what was coming and fell into his trap.
Pride is always greatest before the fall. While I do believe Fuhrman has many more racist thoughts than they downplayed here, he had a perfect chance to say "you know, I MAY have used that word in frustration at times and I'm not proud of it" and it would've been much easier to believe him about not planting evidence - which he obviously didn't do.
But Bailey had frustrated him by making wild and baseless accusations earlier in cross so Fuhrman was salty inside and wanted to show Bailey up. This is exactly what Bailey wanted because then his pride got in his way and he made the emphatic statement about never using racial language when that was obviously a lie.
I've said it before about him - it's very possible to be a bad person morally but be a good cop who will follow procedure. Fuhrman is such a person.
He was disbarred shortly after this masterclass
He used the N word a lot but back then it was all about context of using the word now you just can’t say it at all
@@christophergargaro959 absolutely.
OJ lives near me in Las Vegas. I run into him at the local supermarket. He drives a new black Bentley convertible. Lucky for OJ that murder in Los Angeles is legal.
not any more. he drives a ticket to the afterlife
Rip
You know if I had a dollar for every comment I read on various TH-cam videos about people on here inventing some fantasy about running into a celebrity figure to draw attention to themselves I would be a very rich person by now.
All 12 policemen at the murder scene at buddy only saw 1 glove. so there was no second glove for Fuhrmam to pick up
Exactly! Where would Furhman have even gotten a second bloody glove if the scene was already secure? The defense argument made absolutly no sense whatsoever!
Even more absurd than that is the theory that Fuhrman finds a glove at Bundy, picks it up to take to Rockingham to frame OJ without knowing if OJ was out of town during the murders or at a public event at the time of the murders etc… it’s all absurd.
Kathleen Bell is/was very irrelevant in this trial. '85 she sees MF thru the recruiting window & makes inquiries about him? They never dated. Offended at their 2nd Convo yet she goes to Hennessey's bar where she knows he goes? He shows up w/another woman then reports his language to the PD? Fast forward '95 she injects herself into the trial by calling the News, Shapiro, Cochran, writes a letter, witness for defense & hires her own lawyer? Ridiculous. I think she's a bored & rejected gossip.
I heard OJ would send Mark a Christmas Card every year telling him thanks!
❤😂
@@LauraBuchanan-y3z super funny that a murderer can joke about getting off, right?
did he really? wow....
@@andrewrobert5019weLL OJ is most likely a double murderer, but he is stiLL a darn good athlete! I guess both can be true at the same time.
He also sent one to fung, the criminalist....😂😂
Interviewer: Do you think that there were members of the jury that voted to acquit O.J. because of Rodney King.
Juror Carrie Bess: Yes.
Interviewer: How many of you do you think felt that way?
Juror Carrie Bess: Oh, probably 90% of us.
Interviewer: Did you feel that way?
Juror Carrie Bess: Yes.
Wasn’t there another juror that said Fuhrman and the glove demonstration had nothing to do with it, they chose not guilty because of the state’s slopiness?
They voted based on race
There is no doubt in my mind this had everything to do with Rodney King and this was a way to give the middle finger to the LAPD and the judicial system. It’s unfortunate because two people got killed and their families didn’t get justice because some people were pissed off about another injustice.
That should have been a mistrial on that alone
The 9 blacks
I agree with Mr. Furman and I always have,
So you agree with him on taking the 5th?
LOL
Furman is a Racist Cop that took the 5th! ( HUGE RED FLAG) OJ Would send him a Christmas Card every year telling him thanks!
You agree with a racist, a fool, an evidence planter!
@@leemontoya8028 ummm..thats a constitutional right ya idiot.
Fuhrman is delusional. He lied too much. Classic narcissis
How did he lie?
At least he didn't kill anyone 🤡🤡
Sure he did.
@@Roques-rage1706 What about OJ and Cochran lying about actual relevant stuff to the murders? Oh I forgot, they were black 🤣🤣 Woke privilege 🤣🤡
@@TDKiller415 So lets just forget about the fact that he is racist ? This was payback to racist white america and god allowed it to happen 🤡
It’s so clear in this episode that Mark Fuhrman still just doesn’t get it. He sounds so defensive when it’s clear he’s said some awful things and needs to learn from it
Said and did vile things.
and exactly wtf does that have to do with the murder of 2 people??...see, its airheads like you that was on that jury. Judge let all that garbage into that trial...if he used the n word in the last 10 years, how dumb is that. Simpson hated blacks more than Furman ever did...he couldnt wait to ditch his black wife and get the 19 year old blonde beach bunny nicole. Furman saved more black lives as a cop than Simpson ever did. God, women like you are so dumb..cant trust them to do important work..too emotional and dont think.
@@sksimmons1336 was the only one to do his job properly that night...but hey, if thats the kind of city they want...to let murderers go free, so be it, Mark just did his job. Its great, after it was all said and done, Furman ended up being the most successful...great author, television guest..he made a fortune. Good for him...all the others are looked at as losers, they all just faded away..AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
But that is totally irrelevant to the actual case. Furhman could not have planted anything because the original crime scene was already secured by the LAPD before he got there. The defense used emotions over facts.
Let's get real here for a moment. Fuhrman was a street cop first in the roughest of the roughest neighborhoods. You had to be extremely tough to survive that kind of life. Did he say some racist things? Absolutely but then I am sure 99% of the population does behind closed doors, he was just foolish enough to have it all tape recorded for a screenplay. It still doesn't change the fact that OJ butchered two innocent people to death and no, Mark Fuhrman did not plant a glove in this case. That would have been impossible for him to do given that he wasn't the first officer on the seen at Bundy and all of the officers testified under oath to seeing only one glove and because we live in the real world and not the world of far fetched conspiracies it's evident Fuhrman did his job correctly in the OJ crime scene investigation. As for F Lee Bailey he got disbarred in disgrace shortly after this trial so he wasn't as great as some people think he was.
LOL @ Mark’s impression of Kato.
This case needed the prosecutor who handled Jodi Arias
Yes!!! I’ve seen someone make that same comment on her trial page
OMG! Ito too made the Prosecution look like an insolent child needing reprimand when in fact Clarks' objection was well founded.
Ito was biased against Furhman because his wife was Furhmans boss at one time and he had made derogatory comments about her looks.
Vanatter , testified to the fact that notations of the Rockingham estate investigation were missing
How is it relevant to not being planted evidence
How did a crime scene that wasn't a crime scene happen?
Your point is that Simpson would murder Nicole Brown, near his children,
Then take the evidence back to the Rockingham estate in the Bronco that the police kept under surveillance
because he -( Simpson) wanted to look guilty
If simpson had committed these murders in Las Vegas he would, in all probability, spent the remainder of his life in Jail!
You mean prison
Ito was a clown, the defense ran roughshod over him.
Wait a minute. If Furhman planted the glove at OJ house, where would he have gotten another glove when the the original crime scene was already secure hours before Furhman's arrival? The defense wasnt masterful...they basically pandered to the jury
BINGO
And good luck getting any of these morons to answer that question lol
He planted that one too
He's the real killer
He was sleeping with Nicole
@@saffiyah4447 LOLLL
if fuhrman said the sky was blue i wouldnt believe it. hes full of it
I still think he was more honest than F. Lee Bailey. What Fuhrman's use of the N word had to do with OJ Simpson's DNA being all over the crime scene is still beyond me. I thought Bailey looked like a grandstanding fool.
At least he's not a brutal knife killer.......
Agreed
@@riverebec1 he lied on the stand. He said he never used the n word. He’s a liar and a racist. When they asked him if he planted evidence in this case he plead the 5th wtf in the jury supposed to do?
@@riverebec1I think what you mean is Lang is the one who looks the most shady to me. He threw others under the bus during his testimony. And, his interviews during these clips show he truly is trying to distance himself from the screw ups of his department. As they said, Lang became a better witness for the defense than he did for the state, because Lang admitted to mistake after mistake after mistake. Yet, in these interviews all he says is “we’re human. Mistake will be made! There’s mistake in every investigation!” Hmm no there isn’t. Not when you’re a 20 years homicide detective, Mr. lang!
3 things:
1. 95% likelihood that OJ did it.
2. BOTH the criminal & Civil verdicts were correct.
3. As soon as Fuhrman plead the 5th, the jury had no choice but to acquit, full stop.
So, by Simpson not testifying ,
which is a 5th amendment right , Simpson is guilty & Fuhrman isn't for the same reason !
Lol of course they had a choice. They had so much forensic evidence, fuhrman pleading the 5th doesn‘t change that
@@Andrea-ue7gv Then prove that he did not plant any evidence, they guy plead the fifth
When asked under oath (with the jury not present), Fuhrman declined to answer all questions, invoking his Fifth Amendment right. These questions included whether he planted or manufactured evidence. Fuhrman retired from the LAPD in 1995.
They got Furman when they showed that he was a racist, because of the makeup and educational level of the jury coupled with OJs celebrity at the time. This was a time before smartphones and social media.
Mark Furhman never shows any remorse for his racism or his perjury.
he did in his book...and on the Oprah show. Remember, Fuhrman didnt murder 2 people, ok??...see how stupid you are.
OJ still guilty though
Hush your STUPID mouth about Mark Furhman is a racist....being a Murderer and being a racist, which one is worst....I really hate to hear low IQ people like you talk foolish stuff 🙄🙄🙄
Oddly enough, detective Furman tried to retire before this happened on the basis that he was too racist to do his job properly and it was rejected.
He pled no contest to the purjury charges that came later. He should have just told the truth.
Everyone was racist back then just about. Some people still are.....but I remember people saying that Nicole got what she deserved because she married outside of her race back then. It was not as acceptable to do that in the 1990s. Nope.
Irrelevant to whether OJ's blood was on the glove at Nic's, OJ had a motive, the SHOES were OJ's size and brand. But yeah he was a racist. AND?
Not everything Furman said and did was wrong. Unfortunately they milked his character flaws.
Yes but his character flaws were completly irrelevant to the actual case. Furhman literally was called straight out of bed at 1am to the original crime scene that was already secure. How the hell would he have gotten a second bloody glove? As far as race, he didn't even know OJ was even involved! How would he have planted evidence that he would not have even had access to against someone he didnt even know would have been black?!
character flaws i like that...guy is a racist we are calling it a character flaw. lol
@@starter47990 Yes he did. He knew nicole and immediately suspected OJ - you're a liar or fool to claim otherwise.
@@justinjohnson8551 he's a racist too that's why he minimized it?
plus the tape's
It’s hard to get my head around that OJ would kill the mother of two of his children then stroll off leaving the front door open.
Well he DEFINITELY did it.
Normal people wouldn't do that but sociopathic narcissists do.
He didn't do it
@@saffiyah4447 YES... He did
Why was OJ’s blood present at the crime scene?
Why didn't Marcia Clark ask Furman for the time that Keto said he heard an earthquake?
No kiddin that would have ended debate right there
Kaelin's head probably hit the wall or headboard behind him when he dozed off lying in bed after toking up.
There was no earthquake and there were no bumps...
Why anyone even paid any attention to what that "Air Head" recollected is beyond my understanding.
Might as well of asked "Chachi" the dog about what he saw.
Hogwash!! It’s not about saying the “n” word!! It’s about the professed hatred he expressed in those tapes toward interracial couples (specifically white women and black men)!!! And it’s BS to claim it’s a screenplay! He said similar crazy stuff to the compensation committee, when he was requesting hazard pay!! He simply never thought it will come out … This guy is shady as hell. And he’s the one who “found” that glove! And he knew the Rockingham property well, having been there following one of OJ and Nicole’s fights.
ohhh the world hates black men and white women............... but accepts white men with black women
Ito was terrible and Marsha was terrible
Furhman only blames himself for being too good
Yeah, I agree. Darden wrote in his book he'd never heard any lawyer "serenade" a jury with the 'n' word so often and with such relish. Bailey's reputation as a courtroom "legend" is wildly overrated. You should hear what Patty Hearst has to say about how badly he handled her defense, if you haven't already. 🙂
@@Juliet_Tobin , Highly overrated for sure. I'll look for P. hearsts story.
I didn't believe her story about being a hostage though.
@@manthony777 lol Like the true crime junkie I am, I've just been arguing about Hearst also. I do believe she was initially a hostage but that doesn't completely excuse how many very serious crimes she committed in 19 months! That's a different thing from Stockholm Syndrome IMO.
I hope Flea Bailey and Johnnie Cockran are burning in hell
Regardless of your thoughts on Furhman's arrogant demeanor and self-absorbed traits, he is spot on with the Race card being at the forefront and how none of the Charades meany OJ wasn't guilty. Marcia Clark let him be badgered repeatedly by Bailey then "gave up" as he stated. It was a smart Defensive tactic to play on the Race piece to then state Furhman planted the glove at Simpsons residenc.
yeah..if your jury has the combined IQ of a chimp....
Unfortunately we are in 2023 and nothing really changed. Still sloppy police work and corrupt legal system Still accurate.
And OJ is still a murderer!!!
I read Tom Lange's book "Evidence Dismissed", along with Vincent Bugliosi's book "Outrage". BOTH outstanding reads about these murders, and the unacceptable resulting travesty that took place because of the Los Angeles DA's office and its incompetence during this entire case from the beginning. I highly recommend them for anyone interested in this case, as I am and always have been.
So he said he had no idea who the victim was, and then 2 minutes later say he wants to go to Rockingham??? That was odd.
it wasnt 2 minutes later..it was more like 3 hours later, when Lange and VanAtter showed up..THEN they went to Rockingham.
@@randallrhoads3271 exactly... and it was lang and vannatter's decision to go to Rockingham. Don't try to reason with these morons. all they know is what they see on tv or hear from other people. lost causes...all of them.
Are you responsible for the extinction of the Dinosaurs?
Fuhrman: I exercise my constitutional right to the fifth amendment.
Yeah, you SHOULD use your 5th amendment rights when being asked obtuse, retarded questions that have no relevance when there is a wealth of physical evidence supporting your side
F. Lee Bailey was too cunning for Mark Fuhrman.
Fuhrman planted that glove for sure
@@Eastvanucks no he didn’t. It was impossible. Oj lost that glove on the side of the house when he banged into the Air conditioner of Kato room which made that sound. Oj got clumsy lost the glove. He was in a rush to get rid of whatever evidence he had and fly out to Chicago.
@@Eastvanucks Nah. OJ killed those poeple.
@@BroadwayDuchess13 can you prove it
@@uram9440 then why didn’t he answer the question when they asked him if he plant evidence in the case
Ron ship looks like Cleveland from family guy 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
Mark is completely right about his statements about the defense putting the country through such a charade. Absolutely shameful.
everything is fair game in a court room.
@@Sebastian-sv5mp Only if you have a bad judge.
The "Charade" made him millions.
Giving the money back?
White people defending racism - per usual.
Bailey's apology was hilarious
Female laying in pool of blood at the front door of the property and he says he had no idea who it is . Despite knowing it’s OJ simpsons Ex wife house .
Right yeah ok .
They so did not know who it was their first thought was for ALL of them to go to OJ's house and break into the grounds 😃😂🤣🤡🤡
Detectives aren't allowed to touch or move the victim. Nicole's face wasn't visible. She was laying face down, hair in her face and covered with blood. Police cannot assume things. It could be anyone laying there. A friend, a neighbor, a passerby, a sister, anybody. Why are you criticizing a police officer instead of a murdering wife abuser? Talk about bias.....
Actually she wasn’t lying right at the front door. She had to walk down a long walkway from her doorway. That’s where she was murdered!
Now one could argue that he was trying to frame Kato? The boom against the air-conditionaire was so that Kato would come out and pick up the bloody glove ?
Furhman is crazy. What a dumbass. Racist and bigots he is how you look to the rest of society just so you know. He is a worser human being than the actual murderer.
That's an interesting take. Does seem odd to stumble into someone's room and drop a glove when you could have dropped it anywhere. I believe Oj did it, but there are a lot of questions un-answered.
What would be katos motive?
Kato heard 3 thumps. Why would OJ fall into a wall 3 times? Maybe OJ did think about framing Kato, but why bring evidence onto your own property? There's more to this, which is why we're still captivated by it.
@@AquaNikki They could say he was infatuated with Nicole, but there's no evidence to support that and it would never hold up,
How'd that blood get into the Bronco? What do cops use to unlock a locked car door that has it's keys in the ignition?
The blood was doscovered before anyone entered the bronco. FYI police use a lockout tool.
Cops have a device known as a slim Jim to unlock doors. Mark Fuhrer is a scumwad cop that's not above doing whatever it takes to bag an ethnic minority suspect.
A slim jim
But what about the blood preservative that was in the bloody socks in his bedroom? Very Very Suspicious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@leemontoya8028 and on the back gate at Bundy.
This clip was saved forever and it is funny 28 years later.
Wow ! He said I saw them ( the gloves next to the victim)
Fuhrman is innocent.
Cochran and Bailey were guilty of contempt of court.
OJ is guilty of murder.
If you really believe Fuhrman using the n-word was basis for reasonable doubt, then you're essentially saying that had all the skin colors been reversed and Fuhrman had said "white motherfuckers", it would still have been ok for a white OJ to walk after killing a black Nicole and Ron. Suck on it.
You just cracked the case
“They/them” are singular. 🤪
I can’t even place OJ at the scene it just doesn’t add up how could he possibly kill 2 in a 25 minute time span and managed to get in time for his flight
😂😂😂😂 I’m sure u can’t
@@silkboxing4454 because it makes no sense 🙄
I agree. No way
It makes absolute sense. read some of the books on the subject and not just 30 second social media things. Also... the murders probably happened at 10 or a little after... OJ got back home at 1040 when Kato heard him hitting the air conditioner behind his room. Remember the woman who saw OJ leaving the crime scene and even accurately write down his plate? No... of course you didn't
are you kidding?? his house was 6 min away by car and stabbing someone can happen in seconds, 25min is plenty of time
I thought they took juror notebooks after they trial ends.
I was on a 2 week trial as a juror and the court most DEFINITELY took the notebooks from all the jurors!! The bailiff even counted the notebooks and made sure the numbers matched!!!
A DEVIL 😈 CAN'T HELP HIMSELF. ITS IN HIS NATURE.
r u high on crack cocaine
Andrew beHinds are getting plowed by a dude every night.
Just keep paying your rent money to that devil
@@georgefromdownthehall3334 look at you getting defensive - devil.
The dream team left something out . Why didn't investigators find drops of blood in the grass behind the guest house ? It was summertime and the forecast didn't call for rain .
The bloody clothes and knife was in the Bronco which OJ got a few minutes later.
Just because there wasn’t blood in every conceivable area, it doesn’t mean it’s suspicious
Are people forgetting especially Det. Furman that is the defense’s JOB to “win” the case by any means other than breaking the law. They did their job and got their client off.
Thank you Mark Fuhrman! 😂
Thank you?
@@coreywashington5440They probably mean thank you like thank you, Mark Fuhrman for being a racist, pleading the 5th when questioned if he ever planted evidence at a crime scene and basically making it a no brainer for the jury.
@@Gem_Am_Ijury let a killer walk. It’s disturbing
Why not show the part with the recording of Fuhrman?
Because it is make believe. He got paid to say what the person wanted him to say. He should have known it was a trap.
@@shawnmckinney8352 It shouldn't have been allowed in court at all. It would be like Penny Azcarate letting Elaine Bredehoft ask all of Johnny Depp's witnesses if they use the word "dyke" to describe bisexual women.
coming up in a later episode, he says a lot of wild stuff
@@TDKiller415 it does matter a cop on the case who has a racist bias could have manufactured evidence against oj.
@@jbone9900 Thats pure bullshit and you know it. Thats like saying a black cop who said some make believe anti-white things in character for a fictional screenplay would manufacture evidence to frame a rich white man for killing his black wife and her black friend, on the basis that the black cop was racist against whites. I doubt the black population would believe that theory, they'd have called the lawyer racist for suggesting it.
Like the black LA police chief said at the time, its something out of Disneyland. There's a reason why OJ has hinted multiple times that he killed Nicole and Ron, even helped write a book and gave an interview about it, yet Fuhrman to this day has denied planting evidence and has admitted that everything he said was for the screenplay, and the FBI cleared him of any wrongdoing and exponged his perjury conviction.
How did that blood get on both sides of the sock if there's a leg in between ?
Because blood is a liquid and a sock is a porous cloth material…
Lay down a sock on the floor and drop some ketchup on it. Give it a little time and see it seeps through to the other side.
@Nick L. Thats exactly what the LAPD did, layed down a sock and dripped blood on it, so it ended up on both sides. If you're wearing a sock, that wouldn't happen. Good job defending OJ.
@nicksivds is it possible that the evidence was planted?
At the end of the day it was reasonable doubt in this case point blank . You don't have to prove one is innocent but create reasonable doubt and in this case, reasonable doubt is an understatement
And don't forget about the blood preservative in the blood!!
OJ had other scratches on his hand. At the civil trial, photos of his hand with the cut finger also showed half-moon shaped scratches on the same hand. Nicole's nails did that fighting for her life!! R.I.P. Nicole and Ron.
How did the juror or show get the juror’s notes? Wouldn’t the court have kept them and then destroyed them?
No, they are his property. My question is how did he have time to write so many detailed notes with people talking so fast? Court reporters have to use an extremely shortened version of the english language to keep up.
Dude must write incredibly fast, even if hes not writing down everything said.
The jury notes were the property of the juror under California law at the time. So Cryer was allowed to take those notes with him and do whatever he wanted with them.
well looky here...OJ looks very scared in that Bronco!!
I would have thought Mark Fuhrman's first thought while on the witness stand would have been that he never should have talked to that would-be screenwriter not that he never should have picked up the phone.
Simpson pulled up to the Rockingham gate, went to go in his house, looked over at the Ashford gate, saw the limo/driver waiting, panicked and went to go in thru the back door by going on the path behing the guest houses. Its pitch black back there and he walks right into the A/C unit and drops the glove. Thats the sound Kato hears on his wall. Simpsons goes back to go inside. The limo driver sees simpson coming from the garage area and almost at the exact same time, he also sees kato walking from the other side with a flashlight to investigate what he heard. And there goes your ignorant planted glove theory. Fuhrman did an excellent job that night. It was the 2 "star" cops Lange and Van Atter who made mistake after mistake. Just stupid stuff. Especially the next day they got to interview simpson without an attorney and totally blew it...just let him ramble on and on...they were star struck and choked. And the were ROBBERY/HOMICIDE cops. supposedly the best of the best. They blew it.
Fuhrman was right about it being about the defense lawyers ego.
It was Really everything but what it actually was.
He says it's the fault of the defense for bringing race into the trial but he did the interview
What???
Furhman still looks and sounds young in his 70s
26:00 / 44:01 and that's just in LA.noone ever helps me.
such a shame noone knows Furhman took a polygraphs and it was televised !
Think about it y'all , if OJ packed the bloody clothes and disposed of them at LAX, then why would he throw one glove behind a guest house ?
i don't think he left the glove there on purpose, i'm sure it was left by accident! Simpson wanted to make it look
like he was in Chicago when the murders happened, he was in a rush to get to the airport and made many mistakes
that night!
@@USArmy91222 I don’t think he did it. Doesn’t make sense. Ron had defense wounds on his hands, OJ had no marks but a little scratch on his finger.
Evidence:
* etda found on the blood back gate
* edta found on the socks.
* no marks on OJ
* those socks weren’t there originally when they took video of OJ house.
@@USArmy91222 it’s no way possible that OJ could have killed/fight two people without handing any wounds
@@USArmy91222 glove was planted by Fuhrman. Read F Lee Bailey’s book he mentioned that Fuhrman planted the glove to stay on the case. He got caught mentioning it before the trial without him there is no glove. He planted it to stay in the case
Are you serious?
Fuhrman belongs behind bars
He does and so did OJ for a double homicide!
@@eddiewinehosen6665
The circumstantial evidence is in not knowing what led to Nicole Browns murder.
More specific to the point
what was Nicole Brown doing?
Other than being a victim ?
for what exactly? cause you can't understand facts?
How did you see a dark object 15 feet away in the dark??
with a small mag lite flash light....use your brains,ok??...dont be stupid, just use your brains..ok?
Omg I'm starstruck.
I still assured my fifth amendment privilege 😂😂😂
18 pairs of feet (36 feet) or 9 pairs of feet (18). I think there were not 18 pairs of feet. Regardless, I don't think it mattered. There was only 1 glove at the scene before Fuhrman ever arrived.
Its may understanding jurors are not allowed to take home their notes, anyone know? Fuhrman still off balance about law and rights, the job of a defense attorney is to defend to the maximum his client within the law which he did. Also Fuhrman says how can they use the race card when their client is guilty as sin, he forgets police gather evidence and a judge and or jury decides guilt, not the detective. The judge allowed a little bit too much leeway in the types of questions and the racial remarks of Fuhrman 10 years before, the glove was 1 of over 100 pieces of evidence that linked OJ to the crime, but with theatrics anything can happen... believe the US was bombing Yugoslavia at that time illegally.
For them to say The judge allowing the defense to question a genocidal racist who admitted to planting evidence on blacks about his involvement in this case is absurd is absurd
He never admitted to planting evidence! In fact, he was instrumental in freeing an incarcerated black man!! He worked very diligently to get that man declared innocent, thus freeing him from prison. THAT doesn’t sound like a racist!!
"Flea" Bailey left a trail like a slug wherever he went.
Hater
@@johnmcdade1001you spelled “liar” incorrectly. As in Bailey.
Furman murdered my black puppy dog.
mark fuhrman...... planted that glove
Right, and without car keys or any way to get into OJ's locked vehicle, he somehow got into it, and planted Nicole, Ron and OJ's blood all mixed together inside OJ's white Bronco, too I guess. He also managed to soak one of OJ's socks in all their blood and plant it upstairs too, without anyone noticing - same for dripping his blood in long trails leading away from the crime scene, along his driveway and all throughout his house. Also, Mark apparently decided to frame OJ by planting that glove, despite not knowing at that point whether or not OJ was even actually at home that day or had an ironclad alibi, meaning he'd end up in prison for obviously planting evidence. 🙄
@@JET7C0 bye
@@ThePrinceOfTheTalkbox Great counterpoints - really made me reconsider whether he planted the glove. No one's denying Fuhrman was racist, or that the LAPD railroaded innocent black people in the past, but OJ wasn't one of them - he was however, really rich, and as usual, rich people can literally afford to get away with murder.
@@JET7C0 ok yea
@@JET7C0 those white male police was Jealous of ANY BLACK MAN who was FAMOUS OR RICH....even in 2024...........White Males and are the worst( the white females love us ) lol
Furman didn’t plant the glove, but he did unwittingly admit in this documentary that he lied both at the preliminary hearing and trial regarding the purpose for the officers going to the Rockingham address. He testified at both it was to notify next of kin, and that they entered the grounds without a warrant because of exigwjt circumstances (they thought someone could be injured inside because of the blood on the Bronco). In this documentary he says that after he found the bloody glove and told Vanatter, Vanatter told him “this is a crime scene,” which caused Furman to remark in seeming dismay “that’s why we’re here.” No, according to you it was to notify next of kin and then ensure no one else was harmed.
Good point. He's so shifty.
Also he said he didn't know who the victim was when he showed up at Nicole's, but then asked the other officer where the Rockingham house was?? So which is it
If you read Mein Kampf, you would understand Mark's brain cognitive function
@@jessejoseph7372
An amount of blood would have to be found to compared to the samples found at Rockingham .
By comparing the samples to the crime scene , it's a foregone conclusion that anyone not covered in blood committed the murders .
Where is the knife ?
It's irrelevant
Where are the worn bloody clothes!
Where is the eyewitness
Circumstantial evidence!
O.k What did did Nicole Brown do, a long time ago according to the 911 call?
Is Nicole Brown an innocent victim, for only being recognized as an innocent victim & nothing else ?
Mark Fuhrman was sexy still is at 72❤😮
sexy racist.
26:00 / 44:01 and that's just in LA.
Lange blows Fuhrman off as being inconsequential because he wasn't a "lead detective" and was off the case early, day one, BUT that one day was VERY consequential because he's the one that found a key piece of evidence, the glove, so it was very consequential, regardless of his rank in the pecking order or his total time on the case. The glove got rocked because Fuhrman lied on the stand and he was the one who found it. Then it "didn't fit" (although it really did and OJ did his usual bad acting job pretending they didn't...)
Fuhrman took the fifth against self incrimination it doesn't mean that Fuhrman "found" the glove, or the blood inside the Bronco
@@KevinS702 He did find the glove. He's the one who first saw it at Rockingham. He took the Fifth to avoid self-incrimination on being asked: "Did you plant evidence/glove...?" In his previous testimony, he said NO. (Like the N-Word denial.) Here, he took the Fifth. Jury has to ignore anything he touched, including the glove. It's tainted as soon as he takes the Fifth. Period. And there were tons of holes in the case anyway. Terrible police and prosecutorial work.
@@Contractnik
Exigent circumstances
Concern, for Simpson"s safety
Entering Rockingham, without a warrant
Ok now that we know it wasn't a safety issue let's arrest him for murder. What???
I always liked Mark Fuhrman. I hope he hasn't suffered too terribly from this ordeal.
u just like him
I feel for him.
me too. i feel for the racist cop that did who knows what to black people while he was a cop.
....NICKI WAS AN INFORMANT
F. Lee Bailey has a history of getting murderers out of trouble-Dr. Sam Sheppard comes to mind. He willingly played the ''bad guy'' in confronting Fuhrman because he himself was white. As for Sheppard's guilt, watch the ''They Got Away With Murder'' episode on the case. I have no respect for Bailey, nor for Barry Scheck and his so called ''Innocence Project'' who often make money by questioning guilty verdicts based on untested DNA found at crime scenes, even when there's no doubt as to the perpetrator. As for Detective Lange, he failed to get the bloody fingerprint on the back gate collected, so he's just covering his butt for his failures by blaming Fuhrman for the cop novel ideas/narration he was giving to the female ''screenwriter''.
337 locked down with policeman...
MRk. Its Staci again. I need you. Please my noble friend and former police officer, I need help. Please help me....❤
The average IQ of the jury couldn’t have been over 75.
Scary that these people are left with such a big responsibility
75? You’re being quite generous 😂
"Responsibilities"?
What is #45's IQ at present time?
Know numbers
In usual parked hasty
Big problem
Arrogant and self absorbed. Lol
On his own
Oj coming over the way with the bag of cloths,crashes into the air conditioning unit and the glove comes out the bag.We can say if the other glove aint dropped at the scene then at his house he committed the perfect crime theres no doubt he was there and he helped or he took on ron and got him first while nichole was stabbed and hit over the head.
I think I heard an earquce last nite
35:18 UMM BLACK WOMAN.. he was NOT Intelligent... ..that sucka was Ignant
Judge Ito failed Furhman! 😆😅😁
Great insight 👍🏻
800 I opened the hydrolic gate...
24 he was in and out if this case on day one.
The amendment guy
So let me get this straight. Judge Ito ruined the case because Mark Furman use racial slurs while performing his duties as a police officer and detective. Now it makes sense