WAGNER Airless Pro Tips Explained
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- Wagner Pro tips explained. It's very important to use the correct tip for the material you are using and the surface you are spraying onto and also very important is your choice of filter to go with the tip size.
The correct airless tip ensures less overspray and therefore better control and finish. Not only will you use less paint which saves on material costs, but you will be spending less time doing the job and clearing up afterwards.
On the tip, the first number gives the width of the spray. It matches the angle you are spraying at. If the number is 5, then you are spraying at an angle of 50° this gives you about a 10” fan width if you hold the gun approximately 30 cm from the surface.
The last two numbers show the size of the spray orifice, indicated in thousands of an inch. The higher the number, the greater the flow with which you can spray. For example, a ‘517’ tip enables a greater flow than a ‘311’ tip The greater the flow the faster you paint larger surfaces, but you will use more paint. With a smaller fan distribution, you work more slowly, but you use less paint and you have more control.
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Genius. Who developed this needs a raise
🙌 The HEA technology really was a genius invention 💡
Thanks so much! Is there a print out available of the spread sheets used in the video. Id like to print and laminate them to keep with my sprayer.
Hi Joe, I'm afraid that is not available currently but that is something we will definitely consider making available! Thanks for your question.
Greeting! I own a wagner 350M and a spray gun 517. I'm wondering how much I have to dilute the paint with water. example on 10kg of paint how much water I have to pour. Every time I apply paint, lines remain on the wall. There is no way I can match it to stay perfect
Hi Andro, thanks for your comment. We recommend diluting by 5-10% to begin with then go up in increments of 5% until you have the consistency of single cream, making sure it is thoroughly mixed. Have you checked the manufacturer's guidance on spraying for the material you are working with? They should be able to advise on spray pressure and tip size. It's possible that you need to go larger than a 517. Hope this helps - The Wagner Professionals.
Hi mate,I have got a wagner M250,can you please tell me what tip and filters should I use for doors and windows sill?Thank you
Hello Mike thanks for getting in touch. This video explains about our professional range of spray tips however you will specifically need the tips designed for the Control Pro tip guard (they are a different size to the pro tips!). For a fine finish on woodwork we would recommend looking at the 211 and 311 spray tips. These have a smaller spray orifice and narrower spray pattern to help you control the spray. Make sure to test with your desired material on a different surface prior to the final job. You may need to dilute. Other advice includes keeping the paint inside in the warm before spraying, mix properly and check dilution. You can also consult the material manufacturer for their advice on spraying.
Hi using Dulux Aquanamel (water based enamel) for trims such as architraves doors and sills etc. Dulux recommends 1800-2400psi for this paint. The 311 tip at any of the pressure settings on the control pro 350m doesn't work. gives tram lines no matter what ive tried and keeps blocking up. Paint is new. When I swap out to the 517 tip with white filter it works beautifully but for trims its too big of a tip. fan size is too large and goes on too thick. based on the above im assuming I need something like a 215 or 315. are these available in the HEA range?
Hello Thank you for your question, the Control Pro 350 generates 110 Bar which is approximately 1500 Psi. It is designed to be a lower pressure machine to reduce overspray and spray mist to a minimum and make the machine easy to use and control.
Therefore unfortunately the machine really doesn’t match what Dulux recommend for the product - however if you are getting an almost acceptable finish with a 517 then you can certainly try a smaller tip like a 215 / 315. Unfortunately, the Control Pro Tip family doesn’t go down to those smaller sizes.
The only way of achieving this would be to change the nozzle holder & tip family to achieve what you want as they offer a wider range. You can see the range by looking at the Contractor Catalogue and Accessories which can be downloaded here: www.wagner-group.com/uk/contractor/service-consulting/download-center/?tx_solr%5Bfilter%5D%5B0%5D=category%3A%2F17%2F301%2F
Kind Regards WAGNER Professionals.
Dear Wagner, I will use primer in wagner 150m in this case which filter and what colour of tip i should use to get a better result. thanks
Hello Liza, thanks for your comment. The Control 150M is an entry level DIY machine which does not take this range of pro spray tips. There is a different selection for them available (eg from Screwfix). To tell them apart, the back of the tips are hexagonal instead of round. For thinner materials, correctly mixed and diluted, it will be the 211 or 311 to work slowly for a fine finish with a red tip. Good luck with your spraying! Regards, Ben @ Wagner Professionals.
If it won't spray it could be because of the sprayer tip it sometimes gets clogged or isn't properly installed onto the spray gun. Take it off rinse it and maybe watch a video on how it snaps into place I've had issues with this before
Good advice John!
What tip for spraying diamond eggshell please? I’ve used the 311 tip which works well initially but the filter that’s supposed to be used with it clogged quickly. Should I use the filter that comes with the 517 tip?
Hello Tom the 311 tip should be used with the red filter and the 517 tip with the white filter. If the filter is becoming clogged it might be that the paint needs diluted and mixed thoroughly. It might also be that you have contaminated material in the paint which blocks the filter. If you're using new tins of paint this shouldn't be a problem but if you're using old tins these can have dried paint or other debris in them. Therefore we would recommend pouring the paint through a sieve to remove these first prior to use. You should also use paint a room temperature. I hope this helps. Kind Regards the WAGNER Contractor team.
@@WAGNERContractor I bought a 208 purple tip for fine finish work and it doesn’t fit my 250 sprayer ? Can you help or advise.
Is the green tip okay for fine finish work?
The green tip seems to deliver a lot of paint onto the surface I’m spraying which tip do you recommend and which filter for built in wardrobes? I’m using diamond eggshell
Is the filter already in the gun? I bought the pro 130 it came with the 517 tip and when I use the sprayer I'm having issues with paint running after I complete a wall
Hello Curtis I am sorry you are having problem the Pro 130 is a product sold in the US I would suggest getting in contact with them to help you, their TH-cam channel is here:th-cam.com/channels/IT49RXMC_fc2lPG0QTkbeA.html Just to answer you initial question yes the filter is fitted inside the handle of the gun. Kind Regards the WAGNER DIY Team
Did you resolve this
using 515 tip with the Control Pro 250M , the machines primes and the paint builds up in the line, and i spray okay and then 5 seconds later it stops spraying clogs. i didnt dialuted the paint. Its a very expensive Dulux MATT trade thick paint.(water based) i am thinking to trying dialuting the paint to keep the pressure. But i dont know if i am doing something wrong. I use machine pressure at level 5 or 4.
Hello As paint is forced through a very small hole to create the spray, any particles in the paint can block the nozzle or cause it to spit. We would always recommend straining paint through a sieve before use. This helps avoid getting any particles which could cause blockages or spitting, particularly if the paint is not new. If there a blockage rotate the tip 180 degrees and with the gun pointing into a bucket or onto cardboard briefly press the trigger to remove the blockage. It also might be that that paint needs diluted more or the tip size is too small for the paint type or pressure needs increasing. I hope that helps you Kind Regard WAGNER DIY Team.
@@WAGNERContractor diluted to 70%/30% paint to water ratio and works great now
Hello i use control pro ..and 517 for interior dispersion paint...with 5-10% water diluted....but diluated or not it seems i use lot of paint...under setting 3 the pattern isn't good...but using 5 or 3 on presure setting..same conclusion...using lot of paint ... i spray from 25 cm distance..and 40-50% overspray...pleafe give me some tip
Hi. If you are finding the sprayer is applying too much paint then we would recommend using a smaller tip size. As explained in the video, the smaller the tip size, the less paint it puts out. Try using a 515 instead and see how you go. Combine this with a slightly faster working speed. At the end of the day, it is better to apply multiple thin coats than one heavy coat.
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I'm sorry, we do not have details on the paint materials used
Hi Wagner
How often you need to adding oil and how much of it to Wagner 250R.
Thanks
Hi, good question and thanks for asking. We would only recommend lubricating the machine if you are planning on storing it for an extended period. For example over the winter period. If leaving the sprayer anywhere there is chance of frost or ice use the Wagner Easyclean which contains anti-freeze to protect the mechanism.
Is thete a chart telling you the tip size and the correct filter to use on water base paints
On the pro 150
Hello Robert, we have the Wagner Sprayguide which you can visit here: sprayguide.wagner-group.com/1 If the material you want to spray is not listed for the 150M then we recommend checking with the material manufacturer - they should provide a technical data sheet that should advise about dilution, spray pressure (which is locked on the 150M) and tip size. Kind regards - The Wagner Professionals.
I gots the 130 with no filter, didnt come with it. I used as without it but it kept clogging too often.
Hello the 130 sounds like a sprayer which is sold in the US which is similar to the UK Control 150M. The filter will be in the gun handle. We would recommend pouring the paint through a sieve when filling the hopper so that you don't get any particles in the machine which could block it. If the tip does become blocked rotate it 180 degrees, then pull the trigger to remove the blockage. Rotate the nozzle back and continue spraying. Kind Regards The WAGNER DIY Team.
Hello Wagner I have just purchased the control 250 M. It keeps stopping spraying but only through the tip. I have watered down the paint and there are no blockages. I have followed all the instructions and its driving me mad! It even struggles just spraying water. Could the machine be faulty and who can I speak to? I purchased new in July. I have used once myself (and struggled) I asked a decorator with spraying experience and he had the same problems. Please help!
Hi Tim, firstly just to cover the cover the basics can we check that you have been clearing the tip? Simply rotate it 180 degrees, spray through, and then see if the blockage is still there. Otherwise you could use our TipClean to soak the tip and remove any dried on paint. Have you tried a different tip in the machine? Can you confirm that water is able to pass through the machine/hose/gun without a tip and tip holder on? Thanks and sorry you are having difficulties! We will do what we can to get you up and running again 👍
@@WAGNERContractor Thanks for getting back to me! The tip is totally clean as is the filter. I can turn the tip round, it sprays and then when I turn it round the right way it sprays for a few minutes then dies. I then have to re pressurise the system and do it all again. I literally can do a 1 meter square and then it packs up again. Its not a blockage as I have hardly used it and its totally clean. When I watch videos online its just a constant spray but my machine sounds like its really struggling then dies!
@@timhodgson5738 Ok, can you confirm which type of paint you are using, which colour filter and how much you are diluting by?
@@WAGNERContractor I am using Dulux silk emulsion. Even with a 50/50 water mix it blocks. I have tried both the standard green tips and the filter that comes as in the gun. App-Tech have now collected the sprayer and have told me that it is going to get replaced. Having to wait 3 weeks for a replacement which is a nightmare mid job. Not sure why its 3 weeks for a replacement when I could order one next day online?
@@timhodgson5738 I’m having the same problem, should I smash the machine Into a million pieces? That’s how I feel, all these videos on TH-cam seem to be running perfect except mine, did you get a replacement?
Sorry, but can someone explain to me what that color coded sheet means. I can't understand what 120 150 and etc are. So i can't use Primer using a 517 tip. Is that it?
Hello! No worries - it's not exactly straightforward 😃 The left column is the width of your spray pattern (when the gun is held at 30cm from the surface) it corresponds directly with the right hand column which is the angle in degrees which the paint is projecting from the tip (the first number on the tip itself). Then across the top is the orifice size - the larger the number, the more paint will come out and thus meaning a smaller number is generally for thinner paints and larger is for thicker materials. The colours correspond with the material types at the bottom of the screen. Filter = the type of filter that should be fitted in the gun. I hope that helps it make sense! Kind regards, Ben @ Wagner Professionals.
I recently body Wagner sprayer airless sprayer but it did not come with the filter in the handle at all so is that normal
Mi Michael. Which sprayer did you purchase? Have you contacted the place you bought it from?
Me too i gots the 130. And my spray gun kept clogging.
Hi Wagner!
I got the control pro 130, and it didn't come with a filter. And really having issues painting since the tip keeps getting blocked quite too often. Is that a no-filter problem?
Another thing is I'm wondering if it's the quality of the emulsion paints I'm using in Nigeria that's the issue...
Hi Patrick, we would recommend using the correct filter for the type of paint you are using. You can find a video explaining filters in our uploads. We also recommend thoroughly mixing your paint and straining it through a sieve before using it. Thanks - The Wagner Professionals.
Me too i gots the same 130. No filter on the spray gun handle and it kept clogging. Im in the USA.
What machine do you recommend for exterior walls with masonry paint
Hello Chris sorry for the slow response. With airless sprayer you typically can only spray smooth masonry paint. Is the application just for your own house or are you wanting to do this commerically? Kind Regards the WAGNER Professional
What about the filter choices
The tips each come with a suitable filter.
Does Wagner Pro 130 work with Behr Marquee (application 0.015-0.019) with a 517 tip?
Hi P. If the advice from Behr is to spray using a 0.015-0.019 tip then you should be ok with the 517. You may just find that you need to thin the paint more because of the slight restriction on the tip size as well as the entry-level power of the 130 model (you would be better off with a Wagner PP90 or if you are in American then look into our sister company - www.titantool.com/ ). Thanks - The Wagner Professionals.
If the machine isn't working, make sure it's plugged in and the switch is in the "on" position.
This is sound advice - always check your power source and machine controls!
@@WAGNERContractor thanks. Can I have a free extension pipe for my Wagner machine please. 😃
17=0.017 " not 0.0017. Video at 1:11 showing wrong. But point taken
Hello Thank you very much for highlighting this. We will get it corrected in the video. Kind Regards WAGNER professionals
Why in the hell does in the paint sprayer come with a filter what’s up with that and they don’t even sell it I mean it’s not a day so you can’t just buy a filter is it Proffitt
All of our paint sprayers and guns come with filters. You may require different filters for different kinds of paints and they will eventually need replacing.
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Thanks we will consider that for next time. Kind Regard WAGNER