I'm not sure why he won't go into steady aim after using ready aim in his midrange strings. is it realy better to only use ready aim after mid strings?
That Sol player is damn good, not to undermining the Chaos one but the constant zoning just feel too cheap even if a viable tactic, least it proped up Sol win even more when he managed to score a hit.
The execution and dexterity required to the zone the way he is and reset resources is incredible taxing. He's arguably the hardest character in the game and I say that as a Zato player.
@@wilsh1630 I'm sorry but if you think that's easy you don't know what you are talking about. Every person who's high level has said its executionally hard as hell to use the negative edge reload tricks. Yes zato is hard and there is a lot of mental. Again I play him but it's no where near as difficult dexterity wise.
I think you are forgetting something: there is no way in all the multiverse that happy chaos could win a close fight against a Sol, if he gets close, hes basically dead
@user-sm8jk4mx5o HC has some of the best normals in the game, he can run sols shit in close but now sol has a sliver of hope to fight back In lore Sol gets fucked cuz HC is the closest thing we have to God with a capital G in guilty gear
@@argonianguy6226 yeah, sol got his fair share of nerfs, he's still a pretty strong character. Also this HC play style is pretty cancerous lmao idk what the original commenter is on about
Sol has been mostly nerfed since launch with some nice buffs. All his obnoxious stuff was nerfed, hes not nearly as strong as he used to be. Nago has gotten almost nothing but buffs
@@Penngweni it's not cancerous at all. It's a functioning zoner arctype in a generation of fighting game players that are used to just running at the other player like apes in every game they touch. Get zoned.
Not even Sol can stop the walking glitch, like i love zoning but even a blind old man can see there's no way out of this, and ArcSys just keeps staring instead of patching it up.
I love any game with HC in it. You can tell exactly what's happening without even watching. If you don't hear steady aim then you know HC is getting his ass kicked 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't understand how this kind of gameplay is fun for chaos. I get that it's optimal, but it is not hype. I wanna see combos, not 80% chip damage. Yes he does have some combos, but the core of his gameplay is just making sure the other person can't press buttons.
@MF BANDIT Yes, but doing the same exact thing over and over ain't hype. I'm commenting on the gameplay not the archetype. I have no issue with zoners, I have issues with spammers. Totsugeki.
@@Eisray If that is your bar then no other character passes it. At its highest level the game is about optimized patterns, no good player will drop the optimal combo/setup simply for the sake of variety
@Ιωάννης Γιαννούλας Κοκκώνης I get that. I just feel like Chaos' optimal isn't very fun to watch. He is probably the only character that feels like he hardly has to make any risky decisions because he's so focused on keeping the other person locked down.
@@Eisray For some people, I think it's fun while I also do. Not letting your opponent play or get a chance is very fun to me. I want my opponent to suffer very much xD
So curse is like bacchus sigh on steroids and conditionates his chip damage shit, running fd minigame sucks, he should be buffed in other ways and make him less annoying to deal,
Right??? HC players don't have a life, just spamming you from across the screen and not caring if you block, they keep reloading and dealing chip damage LIKE THEY LITERALLY DONT GET BORED
I'm pretty sure that's just how a Zoner is played. It requires a lot of patience and effort to keep the opponent at bay and remain in control consistently. Yes it's a mountain climb for most other archetypes, but here you can see the moments where the HC player makes a mistake and leaves an opening for Sol he loses very quickly. There's more to Zoning than most people assume.
Ive played guilty gear for a lot of time, recently i havent been playing that much, i lost the track after accent core plus... Now i see this and think... when did this game turn into a cheaper blazblue? back then zoning characters had to have skill, like Zato and Dizzy... this is... really easy and cheap to play... its dumb...
You’re joking right? You’re telling me you think HC is dumber than Justice? than Testament?? and also if you’ve never played Strive you wouldn’t know that HC is hard to play. Juggling bullets, focus, and meter resources while also having a high execution requirement makes his skill floor very high.
@@azoriusspiralist4918 it is the definition of high risk. If you give one inch to a rushdown character they will cut through your tiny HP in 5 seconds.
Now this is a really interesting matchup ! One mistake from any of them leads to quite literally a round loss ! Beautiful
Is there a high level matchup where that isn’t true?
@@ahoy4301 well it's one of Leo's main strength to not lose from one mistake. Same could be said with Nago if he has meter.
Sol has to do more errors than HC imho, but the latter has easier convertions, cause... You know... Gun.
Nonetheless a beautiful matchup
I'm not sure why he won't go into steady aim after using ready aim in his midrange strings. is it realy better to only use ready aim after mid strings?
That Sol player is damn good, not to undermining the Chaos one but the constant zoning just feel too cheap even if a viable tactic, least it proped up Sol win even more when he managed to score a hit.
The execution and dexterity required to the zone the way he is and reset resources is incredible taxing. He's arguably the hardest character in the game and I say that as a Zato player.
@@wilsh1630 I'm sorry but if you think that's easy you don't know what you are talking about. Every person who's high level has said its executionally hard as hell to use the negative edge reload tricks. Yes zato is hard and there is a lot of mental. Again I play him but it's no where near as difficult dexterity wise.
@@wilsh1630 sure I agree but that doesn't negate people down play the difficulty of his zoning. It's not just chucking fireballs basic is the point.
I think you are forgetting something: there is no way in all the multiverse that happy chaos could win a close fight against a Sol, if he gets close, hes basically dead
@user-sm8jk4mx5o HC has some of the best normals in the game, he can run sols shit in close but now sol has a sliver of hope to fight back
In lore Sol gets fucked cuz HC is the closest thing we have to God with a capital G in guilty gear
Dogura a menace in every game he plays
Hi guys, Happy Chaos enjoyer here;
Hold that.
Sincerely,
Someone who experienced Sol and Nago being buffed in spite of community outcry since beta.
Wasn't sol like nerfed since the release? Only nago got buffed
@@argonianguy6226 yeah, sol got his fair share of nerfs, he's still a pretty strong character. Also this HC play style is pretty cancerous lmao idk what the original commenter is on about
Sol has been mostly nerfed since launch with some nice buffs. All his obnoxious stuff was nerfed, hes not nearly as strong as he used to be. Nago has gotten almost nothing but buffs
@Аргонианин Stop it. The "nerfs" Sol got have done nothing but give him more options to roll his opponents with.
@@Penngweni it's not cancerous at all. It's a functioning zoner arctype in a generation of fighting game players that are used to just running at the other player like apes in every game they touch.
Get zoned.
Sol "Whiff fS"-guy
What a great set! Dogura you don't get a turn and mocci if I steal a turn you're dying.
めっちゃいい試合！どぐらさんのケイオスカッコええ
I just don't understand why Sol kept backing up if he needs to get in to hit him lol
Thank god for happy chaos 😂🔥🔥🔥
WHO IS THIS HAPPY CHAOS??? Damn dude. That first round was disgusting
Dogura
Song name in the 2nd match?
3:05
Just dash block guys 4Head
5head x)
So you can’t move when he’s shooting?! That’s cheat
Not even Sol can stop the walking glitch, like i love zoning but even a blind old man can see there's no way out of this, and ArcSys just keeps staring instead of patching it up.
yeah at this time HC is kind of trash tho
There's so many problems I bet ArcSys hasn't figured out how to patch him. 😅
I love any game with HC in it. You can tell exactly what's happening without even watching. If you don't hear steady aim then you know HC is getting his ass kicked 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't understand how this kind of gameplay is fun for chaos. I get that it's optimal, but it is not hype. I wanna see combos, not 80% chip damage.
Yes he does have some combos, but the core of his gameplay is just making sure the other person can't press buttons.
zoner is an archetype that exists
@MF BANDIT Yes, but doing the same exact thing over and over ain't hype. I'm commenting on the gameplay not the archetype. I have no issue with zoners, I have issues with spammers. Totsugeki.
@@Eisray If that is your bar then no other character passes it. At its highest level the game is about optimized patterns, no good player will drop the optimal combo/setup simply for the sake of variety
@Ιωάννης Γιαννούλας Κοκκώνης I get that. I just feel like Chaos' optimal isn't very fun to watch. He is probably the only character that feels like he hardly has to make any risky decisions because he's so focused on keeping the other person locked down.
@@Eisray For some people, I think it's fun while I also do. Not letting your opponent play or get a chance is very fun to me. I want my opponent to suffer very much xD
I wonder playing against Happy Chaos is as frustrating and boring as it is to watching him play
Its worse
OH A HATE ZONERS
Like watching NSR games. Hate characters with projectiles of this level of boredom(
Lmao happy chaos zoner
So curse is like bacchus sigh on steroids and conditionates his chip damage shit, running fd minigame sucks, he should be buffed in other ways and make him less annoying to deal,
I feel like sol loses this no way this a even matchup
good lord HC is boring to watch, such a degen playstyle
Right??? HC players don't have a life, just spamming you from across the screen and not caring if you block, they keep reloading and dealing chip damage
LIKE THEY LITERALLY DONT GET BORED
It's very satisfying to watch a style that makes sol players mad lol. It's so effing hard to do what that chaos is doing consistently
It’s not the most exciting thing to watch, but it is what the character excels at
I'm pretty sure that's just how a Zoner is played. It requires a lot of patience and effort to keep the opponent at bay and remain in control consistently. Yes it's a mountain climb for most other archetypes, but here you can see the moments where the HC player makes a mistake and leaves an opening for Sol he loses very quickly. There's more to Zoning than most people assume.
@@phytotitan0945 yes but if you block they say "a win is a win" and keep fucking spamming chip damage like they have no fucking self esteem
Ive played guilty gear for a lot of time, recently i havent been playing that much, i lost the track after accent core plus...
Now i see this and think... when did this game turn into a cheaper blazblue? back then zoning characters had to have skill, like Zato and Dizzy... this is... really easy and cheap to play... its dumb...
Have you played Strive yet?
You’re joking right? You’re telling me you think HC is dumber than Justice? than Testament?? and also if you’ve never played Strive you wouldn’t know that HC is hard to play. Juggling bullets, focus, and meter resources while also having a high execution requirement makes his skill floor very high.
@@uwabamiJohnny If you place HC in the same spot than justice, then you think as i do, justice is not fair as well.
@@uwabamiJohnny and also, high skill level required doesnt means high risk involved. its just dumb.
@@azoriusspiralist4918 it is the definition of high risk. If you give one inch to a rushdown character they will cut through your tiny HP in 5 seconds.