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- #WolfieReacts #sonic #Tailstube THEY FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THEM! Here's my reaction to the new TailsTube #5!
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They said north star island which means Superstar's is cannon in the modern universe. So they were talking about inviting trip.
OK that raises a lot of questions so in Generations, they said, Classic was from the past and In Forces they say he was from another dimension and in this video they say he’s from the past WHICH IS IT?!
Bruh Classic Sonic is kid Sonic that's that. Stop over-thinking it
@@aidanlyons25 I was just explaining. Sorry...
@@aidanlyons25 they retconned it in Forces
@@Mirthful_Pandahes from the past, dimension is just some mistranslations stuff. They've corrected this in many interviews before, previous tailstubes, and Classic being in Team Sonic Racing mobile
I adore Sonic and Knuckles dynamic in this. They always roast each other at every change they get.
They should always be like that, considering they were the OG rivalry before Shadow showed up.
Absolute INSANE bombshell. As a diehard Classic Character fan, I'm GENUINELY so happy that they're being acknowledged as modern characters. It makes me, so genuinely ecstatic.
Right?! I absolutely feel that too! I'm betting a ton of older/old-school fans who grew up during the classic era, and loved the characters during that time will LOVE what they did here.
@@SGWolfie I think Sonic & Gang were hinting about the New Character that we don't know that in Superstar who working with Fang/Nack & Eggman.
Not really. It's always been there
On Tails’ shelf, there’s the plant he got at the end of *Sonic X,* exact same pot. The purple badge he got in SA1. And his Extreme Gear. Also on his chalkboard, Sonic drew himself and wrote “I was here”.
Truly the Sonic moment of all time
YAA
If Sonic X is game cannon that's gonna cause some issues
@@thevioletskull8158 I don’t think it’s canon, but simply an Easter egg. It could just be a normal plant with the same pot, Tails has several more house plants so it’s not random or special in anyway.
I was hoping someone would mention the Cosmo plant pot! I flipped when I saw that! And it TOTALLY is the same one! Looked back at the scene from Sonic X. That's Cosmo's heart! I know a lot of fans didn't care for her, but I adored them as a teen... Broke my little heart when she sacrificed herself.
4:56 I love how Roger emulated Ryan's 'Woo-hoo!' when he hits a dash panel during the bumper car segment in Twinkle Park in SA1.
Woohoo!
I was waiting for someone to point this out!
YES, Glad I'm not the only who noticed this
SA1 REMAKE BABY!!!
I knew Fang had aliases, it’s pretty common for crooks to do that, given what I have read and learned about them.
He pulled a Eggman
BRUH. The fact that Modern Sonic. MODERN SONIC, remembering MIGHTY AND RAY is Amazing.
Gives me hope they might show up sometime in the future!
No not Sage, they said Northstar island which is in Superstars
Frontiers is Starfall Island!
I can't believe they're talking about Mighty and Ray in the modern era. I'm still waiting for them to show up in the idw comics. An idea I had for them to appear would be that after Silver returned back to the future. He decides to form his own team after being with Sonic and the others for so long. So he recruits members and the two who join him would be Mighty and Ray. That way Silver sort of has his own version of Tails and Knuckles. Whenever we see Silver in the comics those two will come along and it could be a good way to explain where they have been since the beginning have them come from the future.
Look at that, Cosmo is at the top of the bookshelf
Yep
Makes me really hope that Mighty, Ray, Fang, Bean, & Bark will show up in a modern game in the future!
Maybe even Honey the Cat, she’s already made background appearances in IDW comics. Perhaps even Witchcart and her minions, maybe in another Tails’ spin-off since they first appeared in Tails’ Skypatrol.
This reminds of the fan-made Sonic Volumes where Might and Ray are drunk at a bar and said “f*ck Sega” for never including them. Following by Bean whose sad that no one remembers him.
Mighty: ... Who are you?...
Sticks is what you meant. Remember Amy stated she should invite Cream or Sticks.
At this end of this video Amy says she wants to invite someone to their cookout. You have to listen closely or turn up the volume to hear it.
The fact that they are cleaning up the timeline to continue to make Classic Sonic younger Sonic like Generations claims instead of another dimension like Forces is making me smile. Sonic and the crew in their modern, timeskip, design acknowledging the classic guys like Mighty, Ray, and villains like Fang/Nack (I always switch back and forth between the two anyway 😂) is amazing. Kind of wish the games would pull an Archie Sonic and show us their modern designs but alas… I doubt Sega will go farther than acknowledging that they are still out there. That said… it would be cool for Tailstube to explain why everyone’s eye color changes when they age. They all start off with black eyes so what determines their older, grown up eye color? It’s a small thing sure… but if we’re going to touch on Classic to Modern lore anyway… why not explain it?
I think the.. I wanna say clever because I personally think its clever thing that Sega and Sonic Team are doing is:
Classic and Modern are separate for marketing reasons but in universe they're often considered: "From the Past"
That's odd. No music in the intro? I thought it was my TH-cam app bugging. Lol.
Yeah theres no music
He probably forgor💀
Something borked in the render it seems! But now it makes the intro seem super serious or something, haha!
Hearing the Joy from Wolfie is so great to see, glad you had a fun time reacting to the new TailsTube. Super cool episode.
Hope you’re having an wolf-Tastic day!😁
Eyyyy thanks! Yeah, this one was one of my favs for sure! The love for the classics makes me happy as a longtime old-school fan.
@@SGWolfie Your welcome man, the Classic era is so cool, I love the characters, they are so cute and just so much fun. Love the younger versions of Team Sonic, can’t believe those 4 have been friends for that long. Definitely have to say I am looking forward to Superstars, from what it looks so far, the animation, graphics, gameplay and characters are so beautiful.😊
I also can’t wait for more reactions from you Wolfie! Especially the Twitter Takeover this year. I always enjoyed your reactions, they are so much fun to watch.😀
Edit - Sorry for the long message, I tend to do this when I am in a very happy mood.
I like SEGA is fixing their blunders & addressing the fandom’s hatred for their choices.
03:54 Aw man, I was hoping you'd comment on Knuckles' line. "Wasn't he some kind of *WOLFY* thing?". That was your favourite character basically saying your alias, man!
That aside, I think this is just my favourite TailsTube overall. Not because I have any particular attachment to what they referenced, but because of the mere acknowledgement of things they normally don't as well as the character chemistry. This and IDW, especially the preview for the next IDW comic establishes Knuckles' relationship with Amy as someone he respects the opinion of and hates disappointing.
I totally MISSED that, man! Dang, haha! I would have lost my sh*t for sure!
I knew you would be mind blown by this episode of TailsTube. Yeah, that was a bombshell of revelations of canonnicalies, and Sega lying to us about Nack for 30 years/3 decades. 30 YEARS/3 DECADES. Oh, and Tails forgot about the events of Sonic Advance 2. Knuckles was tricked by Eggman in that game.
Ha! I knew Fang was the official name! Glad they actually acknowledged that 👍
So Knuckles Chaotix is Canon?!
Yes, it's canon again 👌👌👌
It always was. Flynn messes up
If they mention it here it totally is!
@@SGWolfie 3:09 and not only this game is canon but all the Segasonic Arcade games in someway
4:17 Knuckles said he at least likes his hat, because he wore a similar one.
Damn, I must have missed that!
@@SGWolfie He whispered it so it’s easy to miss. He didn’t want to openly compliment him in front of the rest I guess.
Naturally, Wolfie wouldn't notice Amy blushing as she stands next to Sonic. Shh! No one tell him.
I hope this means the doors have been opened for Classic characters to appear in the Modern era and vice-versa. Within reason of course.
I'm pretty sure Amy wanted to invite Trip the Sungazer.
which mean shes a good guy at the end of the game!
wait she was blushing
Mhm
Their probably referring to Trip from Superstars which as expected will change sides since they mentioned the Northstar island the games main location but if it’s her wouldn’t it’d be Modern Trip since superstars is in the past? Maybe her helmetless.
I wish they had thrown in an image of Honey sometime during this video even if they haven't yet decided if Honey is a good guy or a bad guy going forward.
Because she doesn't appear in games, only once, this focus on characters that appear on games.
I have a feeling she will show up at some point, she's one of the remaining classic era characters who have yet to show up. Though technically she was in the same boat as Bark and to a lesser extent, Bean. They're not originally Sonic Team characters, they were made by other Sega teams.
it would be cool if they bring up old *enemies*, like personally I hope Tails talks about the Mecha Sonic line of robots
3:07 Always wondered about Ray’s name, neat. Need some Ray and Amy interaction now.
Well the Sonic 30th IDW and Amy 30th special have some very wholesome interactions between them
@@naitsabes6222 mhm
New subscriber earned i love your energy man! Keep it up.
5:06 same man, same 😂
Knuckles and the boys lmao
The OG Knuckles boys!
Here’s hoping they bring back Mighty (and Ray) in a modern Sonic game soon.
at the end they mentioned the anniversary of their adventure on the north star island, so they mean sonic superstars which mean amy was refering to a character from that game, it could be Trip or Fang (if it's Trip they would have to make a modern design, and also the same if they were refering to Fang)
I think they are talking about Trip
I was thinking Trip cause the game is coming out soon but we'll see. And huzzah, Mighty & Ray and a lotta other things are now canon!
wow it this means Mighty Ray and the old characters will be canon in the modern Sonic? I hope so 🙏 please Sega make it happen it!
Except there are mandates preventing that from happening. This just exists to tell us, "Yeah, they exist. But Sonic and friends lost touch with them, so they'll never appear."
@@mariobroultimate1808 anything can happen
@@loiiysailor1177 Assuming these mandates are ever dropped.
@@mariobroultimate1808 I think they don't know what to do with them
@@loiiysailor1177 They don't have to be plot relevant. Just put them in spinoffs and comics!
Can’t wait for more great reactions and content!!!
Coming soon!
They’re probably gonna invite Trip
Wonder if that means Trip will speak in Sonic Superstars at some point. I know they try to keep voice acting out of the classic style games, but we'll see!
@@SGWolfie She might just get a modern incarnation in TailsTube 6. She probably won’t speak in Superstars. But a Twitter Takeover featuring voice actors would be pretty cool.
They said Northstar Islands, (Superstars) not Starfall Islands, (Frontiers), at the there. They are probably talking about Trip. Hence why it ended a T sounding name from Amy there.
After watching this episode, I knew you were gonna do a reaction video in a sonic second. (See what I did there) 😉
Don't forget the white plant pot on the shelf! That's totally the same pot from the end of Sonic X containing Cosmo's heart! That scene broke me as a teen. I know some people don't like Cosmo and Tails being a thing... But I liked the ship. And I liked her! It made my day seeing that as one of the easter-eggs in this episode. And DANG Bark and Bean, AND Knuckles Chaotix being mentioned!? Wow!
man it's funny that sonic and kuckles are are threatened by mighty which kinda explains why they're not actively looking for him
Absolute bombshell of a tailstube
I never thought Fang is a Jerboa!
Well-- if it helps, Jerboa is "jumping rat" in Japanese and so he was drawn as a rat who is really good at jumping.
Kind of like Sonic is only a hedgehog because in Japanese "hedgehog" is "spiky mouse" and they wanted him to be a Mickey Mouse with attitude. And Knuckles especially doesn't look like an echidna, but in Japanese "echidna" is just "spiky mole" and so they just drew him as a mole.
@TheHobgoblyn this helps alright.👍
Sega seems to be grouping their cast into trios.
They've been doing that since sonic heroes.
@@angrybrony mhm
Since Sega Sonic Arcade even!
The craziest one so far!
4:18 I mean he was also an enemy in Tails’s Skypatrol or Tails’s adventures
1. The timing of this Tails Tube was obvious they were gonna have to allude to Sonic Superstars in someway. And since it’s the modern cast, this implies Sonic Superstars already happened in their perspective. So it makes sense they’d leave it at the end. Also Amy says “I wonder if we can invite…”. She’s probably teasing becoming friends with Trip. Which I’m wondering if it’s a character we already know too. Hence the helmet. Or they’re just keeping it a secret that Trip is gonna be their friend if it wasn’t already super obvious.
2. Knuckles says Mighty and Ray are like Sonic and Tails. Funny he notices since in SEGASonic Arcade, they look more like Tails and Knuckles if they looked more like Sonic (the eyes and shoes used to be just like Sonic’s)
For that reason, Mighty was just an altered sprite of Sonic in Knuckles Chaotix’. I think recently they’re grouping them together since Mighty isn’t with the Chaotix and was missing along with Ray as Ray was only ever in the only other game Mighty was in and it would be easy to just make them another Sonic and Tails.
3. Of course they’re acknowledging their existence. They were acknowledged since Generations. Mania exists because of Generations and also connected to Forces, and they’re in Mania too.
The classic and modern series are doing their own things but it’s the same continuity.
4. It’s odd that Fang is the real name since it’s more of an alias originally. But it’s also his Japanese name so I guess that makes sense that his localized name is just made up stuff. Especially since recently fans found out he wasn’t even a weasel. People thought he was a wolf of sorts in Japanese but he was an animals that wasn’t commonly known. This retcon is clearly a response to that in a way to get the whole fanbase up to speed.
Also, it’s kinda gaslighty to have Amy point out it used to be “The Sniper” instead of “The Hunter” and then say she didn’t mind the change cuz Sniper was too violent. I’m sure it works for most people because most people also don’t think the change is a big deal. But it’s an odd tactic to make sure people don’t try to fight it. Since it’s a little too late to worry about whether or not he had a gun. I mean they started talking about it as thought they were talking about a fictional character when they should have been talking about someone they know changing their title for some reason. Like “He ditched his pop gun (a reference to the less violent weapon he has in Fighters) for other methods of fighting.” Idk. lol
I'm just wondering, considering the icons at the bottom of Tail's screen, whether it'll be implied Amy sold her Mobian-Twitter analog to like Shadow or something, who then proceeds to edge it all up, as a play on Elon's whole X thing.
Next Tuesday superstars comes out
In last part of this tailstube i think amy was talking about TRIP
I wonder what they were look like in their modern look? 🤔
Or maybe... Trip...
Since the Classics were referred to as past versions in the last Tailstube, not surprised some of the characters from the era are being highlighted here. (I don't think it'll mean them showing up [physically] in Modern though; just that they still exist somewhere.)
6:15 Likely referring to Trip since they were talking about Superstars. (Besides Amy being confirmed in an article that she'll have a scene with Trip, some have speculated if she's an unlockable.)
Brother it's a bombshell but at the same time it makes sense. Classic Sonic is kid Sonic
I'm so glad they didn't follow that odd logic in Forces of another dimension.
Sega release a manga prequel of Sonic Superstars and it did explain why Nack change his identity to Fang the Hunter
I Remember when I used to watch your content
Wait is that foreshadowing about mighty and ray.
The next Sonic game is about to be something special... maybe!
Maybe this is the chance to see a modern mighty and ray or something
Fang, Mighty, Ray, Bean, and Bark.
Tails Doll is overdue for a return I feel. But we just need to wait. And Metal Knuckles too, I guess.
Nope Classic and Modern are one and the same the dimension stuff is retconned as far as we know from Tailstube.
6 days left for Superstars to come out
4:23 Not to mention Sonic Advance 2.
I just watch this on TH-cam from another video
4:22 lol
knux work for eggman in sonic advance 2?
Nope, not Advance 2. He was captured in that one!
@@SGWolfie
I feel ashamed for not even playing the Advance games. There is a lot of games I never played, like the Rush ones.
no has piloted a mech in that game the canon fist one the sky level i think @@SGWolfie
he gets the 1st time than 3 zones later eggman uses that mech
Well this is interesting. I was a bit surprised Mighty and Ray were mentioned. But I doubt they'll appear in modern comics anytime soon
I thought Shadow would be invited.
Hey, if you're so worried about blocking Knuckles' face, why not move yourself to the top-left corner of the screen?
sage or trip
Canonically, SEGA of Japan and Sonic Team don't call Fang, Bean and Bark "The Hooligans" or "Team Hooligans." Ian Flynn confirmed that Sonic Team banned him and IDW from calling them The Hooligans as that's not an official Sonic Team term for their 3 game characters, but a defunct Archie Comics terminology.
they not coming to morden are they?
@@loiiysailor1177 Although they cannot use that name it does not mean that they cannot be a team, in fact in IDW it has already been shown that they are, although they called them Fang's gang or something like that (I don't remember the exact name), and IDW is supposed to be canon, therefore it is not impossible that we will see them together in the future in other media.
@@axelh20 am not talking about thier team name
I'm also okay with them being called 'Team Scumbag' or 'Team Bounty'. Hooligans wasn't a bad name at all for 'em.
@@SGWolfieTeam Bounty would work better as Bark is the only team member with a heart.
I just want Ray and Mighty show up in a game again
Bro, they definitely pulling from some old comics with some of this lore. *Such a great set up for Superstars and the Sonic lore in general.*
People please like the video
I was sure that Generations caused a split timeline, kinda like Ocarina of Time. I figured that's why Modern didn't remember the Phantom Ruby in Forces when Classic saw it in Mania. It also explains why CS is "from another dimension" in Forces.
Unfortunately, decomfirming the split timeline creates more potholes than it fixes...
A Jerboa is like a kangaroo rat. I don’t mind them using lesser known animals but what’ wrong with weasels that they had to retcon it. Even the characters are confused by this retcon.
The person who first made the character made him as a Jerboa or jumping mouse and wanted to name him Knack so that you would have Knuckles and Knack to fight Sonic and Tails. But the higher ups thought Knack was too similar to Knuckles and so did a contest in Japan to give him a new name and "Fang the Sniper" won the contest. Furthermore, instead of being acknowledged as a Jerboa the Japanese version made him a half-wolf half-rat. For some reason when the American team made the box text and game manual for Triple Trouble they went back to his original name but spelled it "Nack" and then decided he was a weasel. The European version called him *Jet*. The other two games he appeared in, even when localized to America, called him Fang because there was in-game text. So the prevelance of the Nack name or that he is a weasel is purely because of the Archie comics and nothing else.
@@TheHobgoblyn So much work for a single character. I have heard about the wolf-rat hybrid thing which really confused me a bit, Knuckles even thought he was a “wolf thing” in this segment. I guess the reason for him being a Jerboa now makes sense even if he doesn’t exactly resemble one design wise.
I’ve been saying this for the longest.
If SEGA/Sonic Team are going to continue to acknowledge characters like Mighty, Ray and Fang despite their disappearance, why not just make them canon to the modern games? It blows my mind to see them acknowledge the fact that these characters still exist till this day knowing how confusing the lore and the timeline can be in the game canon. It’s like they’re trying make everything make sense now even though it’s still kinda confusing.
I'm sure the reason is similar to why they've only recently made Amy into a main playable character or even how Fang is finally back in a game
Generally, they didn't know what to really do. Especially when the "WE WANT ONLY SONIC PLAY" being so strong after Unleashed. Bring back any of them and suffer the wrath of the increasingly confused mob? Or don't and suffer the wrath of the increasingly confused mob by screwing it up again?
they might as well make them canon they can't keep up the same excuse forever
Wait a fkin minute mania is supposed to be another dimension BUT ITS CANON IN THE MAIN UNIVERSE WHAT
Honestly, this just pisses me off regarding the Classic and Modern separation mandates even further. If they're not separate dimensions and are the same timeline, LET THE CLASSIC CHARACTERS APPEAR IN THE MODERN GAMES AND COMICS!