Best advice for the right size is to always go with the size in centimeters. I can't remember the last time it didn't work out for me. Alternative the same US size. It seems that UK size is often incorrect. Sizing is very different form brand to brand. I have everything from EU size 44 to 47 1/3, all the same size in centimeters or US size. A very informative video Loyd, sizing is often not that easy
Thanks Loyd. This and a review of that shoe in particular made me decide to purchase a pair of Peregrine 13. They look amazing and seem to be quite agile and versatile! Cheers
Just ran a 21km Spartan trail in Altra Olympus 5 and found the shoes way too unstable for the type of terrain we had: technical section, rocky traverse, wooded trails (uphill and downhill) with lots of roots, loose rock, slippery mud, etc. ok on flats section with hard pack surface and even mud pitts with water,mud up to the knees. Will have to find a good compromise. Tks for your video; lots of food for thought.
I was locked into Speedgoats for years but feel much more willing to experiment these days but only if a shoe is on offer. One thing to remember, if you do get a good shoe for the deep mud, it's worth cleaning them properly, not only so the outsole works properly but also they will last for years, as you tend to do much lees volume in them and the terrain doesn't ear them as quick.
Wow Speedgoat, me too. Found the Speedgoat 4 the best shoe I've ever had. The 5 though was actually disappointing. Feel that the midsole had lost all its delicious impact absorption. The 5 actually felt like a budget version. I'm now stuck on what to wear next as they're not cheap. Thoughts?
Worth considering when it comes to weight...Trail often involves wet surfaces. Then maybe the weight doesn't matter so much, more the draining properties. All shoes pick up weight in some way when they are wet, and 50 grams of weight difference between two shoes does not matter so much when they are wet.
I’m in the market to find a trail running shoe to start trail runs. Where I live there’s absolutely no shops offering any sort of specific running shoes and it a long drive to one wear I can try before but, so I’ll be buying online. My husband loves his Altra escalante for his road running so I’m keen to try that brand for trail shoes.
This is a great heads-up! My wide-feet really makes it challenging. I’ve tried the wide size Hoka Speedgoat 4’s and so far it’s been good but my toe-off on this shoe is not quite there. Also strains my lower calves, prolly not the shoe, but I’m willing to try something new. I’ve been told Altra and Topo Athletic are great naturally wide toe box shoes. Finally ordered my first Topo athletic UltraVenture 3’s Crossing fingers 🤞this will be a better trail shoe experience.
Topo mtn-racer 3 (not 2) are my favorite wide toe box trail shoe. They fit really well, grip well, and I use them for most of my training and shorter races. But for longer ultras > 100 km I still use hoka speedgoat 5 wide fit for the cushioning and with those I have to tape up my little toe or it gets shredded. ultra venture 3 not so much room for the toes and the tread is very shallow, only good for easy trails.
Great tips here Lloyd. Unfortunately for me, I have rather big feet, 48+ in EU sizes and live in country with poor choices with brands and sizes. And I don't dare to order online because I'm not sure will it fit right. It is crazy that even within one brand sizes and fits vary so much. And in Bosnia we don't have running specific shop so I could at least get all the information first hand. Great video as usual!
After your original review of the Xodus ultra, I bought myself a pair. 500 miles later I'm still loving/using it. Bought myself another pair when it came on sale. Will buy another one as back up if it goes further on sale !! Love your reviews
Hi Loyd, greetings from Medellín Colombia, I'm a fan of your reviews and I wanted to ask you a couple of questions: 1 I bought the Peregrine 12 in my normal size (8.5 US), but they were too tight. In your opinion, should I buy the Xodus Ultra in 8.5 or should I take a larger size? 2 At the adjustment level, is there much difference between the Xodus Ultra and the Xodus Ultra 2? I ask because people have complained about the Xodus Ultra's fit level and bungee cords.
When trying a new shoe I order 3 pairs, my usual size, 1/2 size up and 1/2 size down, then return 2 or 3 pairs. My main problem is toe width, very few shoes are wide enough in the toe box.
Thanks for covering cushioning and ground feel. These are soooo important. Hope your future reviews will clarify whether a shoe has groundfeel or not and how heavily they're cushioned.
Been running local trails in the Hoka Zinal which I picked up in the sale for around £80. Very much a cut back road to trail with low stack but by no means uncomfortable. I’ve just ordered a pair of the exodus ultra 2s following your review as I need something for Portsmouth coastal marathon at the end of the year that will be comfortable over long distance and will cope well with both road and off road
A great informative video. I wish running shoe manufacturers would standardise they way the do their sizings. Something simple like a heel to toe measurement.
Thanks Loyd very helpful we have come along way since I started running off road in plimsols or football boots and the serious runners would only run in Walsh's there was no other choice😅
Hi Loyd. Thanks for great content. You have inspired me to get out on the trails. Just got the xodus ultra 2 which I love. Did I hear you say at some stage you added an innovate insole?
Really helpful video, thank you! It's really useful to get an idea of which brands suit wider feet vs narrower feet! My toes are not friends so good to know which brands to go for so that they can get a bit of social distancing when I'm out running!
What woukd you bvb reccomend as a fast ultra distance , easy English terrain trail shoe for wide feet ? Been using Inov8 G270 until now . My daily shoe for 10-20 miles is the Addidas Terrex speed ultra which i really like but its just not wide enough ...
I'd like to know about how the shoes stretch or shrink over time. I've heard trail runners shrink a little over time. Also wonder if they'll stretch a bit during use, thus not being too concerned about foot swelling. Thank you.
A lot of it comes down to how you look after your shoes. Running will always stretch over time but only slightly. As far as shoes shrinking, I haven't really noticed this with my trail shoes but I do look after them. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
The problem with 'truebto size' is that I don't even know my proper size anymore. Not just running shoes but all shoes just vary so much, I don't know if I'm an 8, 8.5 or 9. Based on descriptions I just buy 2 sizes and send 1 back but I hate doing that
Having worked in the running shoe industry for 10 years I can definitely say that shoe sizes have always been very different. You could be a uk9 in one brand and a uk10 in another, that how it's always been and it's very frustrating! 😔 There was one time I had 3 pairs of Hoka shoes and one was a uk9.5, another was a uk10 and I even had a uk10.5 but they all fitted the same 🤔
Unfortunately, my two local running shops dont stock size 12 in any shoe and didn’t have a single trail shoe in stock, shame as they have to be selective over stock as they get so little customers these days😞
Hi there great video and tips. I am looking at buying my 1st trail shoes. I am a overpronated as well which makes it even harded 2 choose a shoe. For road running i use Asics gel kayano 29, wonderful for the road running and long runs. Have used it for trail runs as well but lacking the grip. Any suggestions for what trail shoes i need to look at? Thanks in advance😀
Pretty much all trail running shoes are neutral in structure because the trail environment is a lot more forgiving, less impact than the road and less repetitive! 👍 My advice would be to go along to a running specialists that stocks a lot of different trail shoes and try on as many as possible. If you can't do that, maybe have a look at some of the Asics trail shoes because you'll be use to the brand from your road running shoes 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏 Loyd
Another great video Lloyd! Some fantastic tips but for the everyday do anything trail shoe would you choose the Parkclaw G280 or the Wildhorse 8? I am struggling to make up my mind!
I see you got the wild horse 8 there. How is it so far? Is it your top shoe now? Also, any thoughts about the North face vectiv enduris 2? I am comparing those 2 at the moment and what is important for me is rock plate, grip, and energy return from the foam.
The Xodus Ultra is a great shoe Nicholas. All my socks are from Stance, they make great socks in awesome colours and designs. Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Road running shoes and trail running shoes are very different when it comes to the level of structure Praveen. The road is a harsh, repetitive environment and the trails are a lot more forgiving. Because of this pretty much ever trail shoe is a neutral shoes so you won't find one with a medial post support like your Guides. I woukd suggest going to a running shop and trying several pairs on if you can. If you cant do that then the Peregrine 13 or the Xodus Ultra from Saucony are both good trail shoes. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊 Loyd
Good video. Looking to get my first trail running shoes, dome most of my running on asphalt before, but looking ti hit the trails nearby. Not a racer, just running for exercise. 5-15k most of the times . Looking at the Speedgoat 5 and also the Vectiv flight that are currently on sale and have a similar pricetag. Seems the shoes are quite different since there are no comparisons between those two shoes. wich one should i pick?
Thanks Peter, glad you enjoyed the video. I'd always recommend going into a running shop and trying on as many trail shoes as possible and seeing what fits you best. If this isn't possible, the Flight Vectiv has a Carbon plate in the midsole that you probably don't need. The Speedgoat trail shoe is very popular but it's also deeply cushioned so you'll have less ground feel. I've got a review of both above shoes on the channel. I'd also recommend checking out the Saucony Xodus Ultra 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Yes, i checked al those videos out as well. :) Local shops ain´t got much trail shoes unfortunately. However i did try on the Speedgoat 5 today and it felt nice. (same nice feeling as my road shoes). Also tried on a Peregrin13, but not in the right size so couldnt really make a judgement. I also checked out your Saucony Ultra 2 and Peregrine 13 videos. I had Saucony running shoe many years ago that i really enjoyed. So now i have 4 shoes to choose from :) Pricetag now for the Vective Flight is around 110 euros for them and 120 for the Speedgoat. Peregrine at 150, and the Ultra 2 i found for 170. Ordered the Vective flight earlier today ( the limited green edition that looks ind of funny) and will probably order a Speedgoat5 and one of the Saucony´s to try them on and return the ones i don't keep. Thanks keep up the good work!
Thanks for this guide! very helpfu! the trails in my area get super muddy after the rain. not really deep muddy but slippery muddy. i have the nike pegasus trail 3. i like them, they are really comfy but when it comes to running in mud they fail miserably so im looking for new shoes but I can't decide between the mafate speed 4 and the xodus ultra (2)... i like everything i hear about the xodus ultra but i feel the mafate 4s have a better and more grippy outsole since it's from vibram, right? is there a big difference in grippiness between the outsole of both shoes, especially in mud? thanks in advance for any help!
The Mafate Speed 4's outsole is definitely a bit more grippy because of the Vibram megagrip. As far as mud goes there's not a lot in it but maybe the lugs on the Mafate do give a bit more traction? I totally agree the Nike's are terrible in wet muddy conditions, lethal! 😲 Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure wow thanks for the fast response and help! Yeah, first time i ever slipped and fell on my butt was with the nikes in mud :( don't want to have that happen ever again so i'll go with the hokas! thanks again for the help and have a good weekend 🙏
Any thoughts towards the Addidas Terrex Speed Pro? I could grab a pair for £65. They'd be used for light trails, going fast begween 5k and HM. I already own Speedgoat 5 for the slower, longer cushioned ride.
I've not run in the Terrex Speed Pro but I have heard good feedback, I think it's the best shoe in the Terrex line up. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
Wow. What are the chances. I'm after some trail shows as I started running last year at Perkins but now getting the bug. Watched this and recognised so.e of the sections as I live in Illogan. I have Brooks Ghost 14 but and from what I've seen the speedgoat look appealing. I'm normally 8.5 and 9 in a trainer. Bought 9.5 in my Brooks which are comfy but could have possibly got away with a nine but that's online for you
The Speedgoats will size a bit smaller than your Brooks Ghost and they'll be a bit narrower in the toe box. I'd always recommend trying to go somewhere and try some on because the Speedgoat feels very different compared to your Ghosts. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊 Loyd
@@BM-ms3gr I actually went with my correct size in the end. Done a couple of short runs and climbed a mountain last weekend with no issues. Very happy with them.
I wasn't sure about them at first 🤔 However I tested out the Kailas EX BOA last year and really enjoyed them and the BOA system worked really well 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
I measure my shoesize in cm thats easier to see what size i got. Now my question, i go up half a cm or half a size for trail shoes instead of road shoes. Is that really necessarry?
It takes a lot of trial-and-error (i.e., some wasted money on shoes you'll not wear often or ever again) to find the right running shoes, whether they are for the trail or the road. By doing a lot of research (reviews and user comments), I've been mostly successful with the shoes I've acquired but there are always a few that don't work out. Every person has his or her unique foot shape and personal preferences for how they want the shoes to feel and the unique requirements they have. My feet are a little wide on the forefoot and standard width or even a little narrow in the mid-foot and the heel, so they are a bit triangular shaped. Sometimes I have to wear the wide EE-size from some brands but, most of the time, I'm fine with the standard size (TTS 8 US). For trail shoes, I've found the inov-8 and Hoka shoes to be on the narrow side in the forefoot area but I've been able to make them work. Saucony shoes have all worked out great for me in terms of fit - especially in the forefoot area. I have two pairs of Xodus Ultra, Endorphin Edge, and just got the Peregrine 13 and they all fit me great. I plan to add the Xodus Ultra 2 as soon as it becomes available. It's interesting because Saucony's road shoes (Endorphin Pro 3 and Speed 3) feel narrow in the forefoot to me and aren't all that comfortable to me, even when I go up half-size, which makes them a little too long. They feel so different from the aforementioned trail shoes, even the midsole foam. For me, Saucony's PWRRUN PB and PWRRUN foams feel perfect for the trail but I prefer others (Adidas's Lightstrike Pro, Nike's ZoomX, ASICS's FF Blast+, and NB's FuelCell) for the road. Not sure why this is but all that matters is what feels the most comfortable and "right" to each individual runner. For me, it's Adidas Adizero line for the road and Saucony for the trail with a few from Hoka (mainly the Mafate Speed 4 which I really like) and inov-8.
Very well done Lloyd! I think surface and distance should be the first criteria, and sizing the last. You covered a wide range of brands, which is amazing. Maybe one day you try VJ shoes from Finland. Amazing grip. In the « road-to-trail » category I believe that the Adidas Terrex Speed Ultra is a great contender. Tom Evans was involved in its development. Not a recent shoe but a great one still.
Also, if the online store and your budget allows, buy a size up and down as well, so you can fit all three at home and then return two of them and pick one.
Really useful tips Loyd, thanks for this. It's really tricky with width as I sometimes find that some wide versions of running shoes are not wide in the right places. I've got the ultra glides in wide but the midfoot is still a bit narrow
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My tip is to look at the sizing in CM/Centimeters. That's generally a more accurate indication of atleast the length of the shoe.
You are right, doing exactly the same, measure with your favorite socks on
Best advice for the right size is to always go with the size in centimeters. I can't remember the last time it didn't work out for me. Alternative the same US size. It seems that UK size is often incorrect. Sizing is very different form brand to brand. I have everything from EU size 44 to 47 1/3, all the same size in centimeters or US size.
A very informative video Loyd, sizing is often not that easy
Thanks Loyd. This and a review of that shoe in particular made me decide to purchase a pair of Peregrine 13. They look amazing and seem to be quite agile and versatile! Cheers
Just ran a 21km Spartan trail in Altra Olympus 5 and found the shoes way too unstable for the type of terrain we had: technical section, rocky traverse, wooded trails (uphill and downhill) with lots of roots, loose rock, slippery mud, etc. ok on flats section with hard pack surface and even mud pitts with water,mud up to the knees. Will have to find a good compromise. Tks for your video; lots of food for thought.
I was locked into Speedgoats for years but feel much more willing to experiment these days but only if a shoe is on offer. One thing to remember, if you do get a good shoe for the deep mud, it's worth cleaning them properly, not only so the outsole works properly but also they will last for years, as you tend to do much lees volume in them and the terrain doesn't ear them as quick.
Wow Speedgoat, me too. Found the Speedgoat 4 the best shoe I've ever had. The 5 though was actually disappointing. Feel that the midsole had lost all its delicious impact absorption. The 5 actually felt like a budget version. I'm now stuck on what to wear next as they're not cheap. Thoughts?
Worth considering when it comes to weight...Trail often involves wet surfaces. Then maybe the weight doesn't matter so much, more the draining properties. All shoes pick up weight in some way when they are wet, and 50 grams of weight difference between two shoes does not matter so much when they are wet.
I’m in the market to find a trail running shoe to start trail runs. Where I live there’s absolutely no shops offering any sort of specific running shoes and it a long drive to one wear I can try before but, so I’ll be buying online. My husband loves his Altra escalante for his road running so I’m keen to try that brand for trail shoes.
This is a great heads-up!
My wide-feet really makes it challenging.
I’ve tried the wide size Hoka Speedgoat 4’s and so far it’s been good but my toe-off on this shoe is not quite there. Also strains my lower calves, prolly not the shoe, but I’m willing to try something new.
I’ve been told Altra and Topo Athletic are great naturally wide toe box shoes.
Finally ordered my first Topo athletic UltraVenture 3’s
Crossing fingers 🤞this will be a better trail shoe experience.
Hoka are known to run on the tight side. I cannot wear them. Brooks, Saucony, NB, all fine for my wide feet.
Topo mtn-racer 3 (not 2) are my favorite wide toe box trail shoe. They fit really well, grip well, and I use them for most of my training and shorter races.
But for longer ultras > 100 km I still use hoka speedgoat 5 wide fit for the cushioning and with those I have to tape up my little toe or it gets shredded.
ultra venture 3 not so much room for the toes and the tread is very shallow, only good for easy trails.
Great tips here Lloyd. Unfortunately for me, I have rather big feet, 48+ in EU sizes and live in country with poor choices with brands and sizes. And I don't dare to order online because I'm not sure will it fit right. It is crazy that even within one brand sizes and fits vary so much. And in Bosnia we don't have running specific shop so I could at least get all the information first hand. Great video as usual!
I’ll be wearing my Xodus Ultra For the South West Traverse this weekend 👍
Hope it goes well mate, have a great run 🏃♂️💪
After your original review of the Xodus ultra, I bought myself a pair. 500 miles later I'm still loving/using it. Bought myself another pair when it came on sale. Will buy another one as back up if it goes further on sale !! Love your reviews
Saucony Peregrine 10 and Altra Lone Peak 6 are my go-tos. Buying the Saucony Xodus ultra 2s in a few weeks.
Hi Loyd, greetings from Medellín Colombia, I'm a fan of your reviews and I wanted to ask you a couple of questions:
1 I bought the Peregrine 12 in my normal size (8.5 US), but they were too tight. In your opinion, should I buy the Xodus Ultra in 8.5 or should I take a larger size?
2 At the adjustment level, is there much difference between the Xodus Ultra and the Xodus Ultra 2? I ask because people have complained about the Xodus Ultra's fit level and bungee cords.
When trying a new shoe I order 3 pairs, my usual size, 1/2 size up and 1/2 size down, then return 2 or 3 pairs. My main problem is toe width, very few shoes are wide enough in the toe box.
Thanks for covering cushioning and ground feel. These are soooo important. Hope your future reviews will clarify whether a shoe has groundfeel or not and how heavily they're cushioned.
I’m excited to try my new women’s saucony peregrine 12 st. I love the feel of them. Let’s see how they perform in muddy and rocky terrain
Been running local trails in the Hoka Zinal which I picked up in the sale for around £80. Very much a cut back road to trail with low stack but by no means uncomfortable. I’ve just ordered a pair of the exodus ultra 2s following your review as I need something for Portsmouth coastal marathon at the end of the year that will be comfortable over long distance and will cope well with both road and off road
Recommendations pls Richmond park marathon race 19th May don't no what shoes to buy
A great informative video. I wish running shoe manufacturers would standardise they way the do their sizings. Something simple like a heel to toe measurement.
Thanks Loyd very helpful we have come along way since I started running off road in plimsols or football boots and the serious runners would only run in Walsh's there was no other choice😅
Great video, some excellent advice and explanation of what to look for and most importantly some examples of each.
Super useful video! I run on roads in the asics Novablast 3, find these super comfy so wondering what trail shoe i would like - any recommendations?
Hi Loyd. Thanks for great content. You have inspired me to get out on the trails. Just got the xodus ultra 2 which I love. Did I hear you say at some stage you added an innovate insole?
Famtastic video. Thank you for the advice!!
No problem, thanks for watching 👍
Really helpful video, thank you! It's really useful to get an idea of which brands suit wider feet vs narrower feet! My toes are not friends so good to know which brands to go for so that they can get a bit of social distancing when I'm out running!
What woukd you bvb reccomend as a fast ultra distance , easy English terrain trail shoe for wide feet ?
Been using Inov8 G270 until now . My daily shoe for 10-20 miles is the Addidas Terrex speed ultra which i really like but its just not wide enough ...
Cracking editing!!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for taking the time to comment 🙏😁
Hi which is best for trail to road running please
Which ones would you recommend for Spartan Race and OCR races?
Informative stuff. Definitely not so brands are the same size! I feel it's a risk every time i order online!
I'd like to know about how the shoes stretch or shrink over time. I've heard trail runners shrink a little over time. Also wonder if they'll stretch a bit during use, thus not being too concerned about foot swelling. Thank you.
A lot of it comes down to how you look after your shoes. Running will always stretch over time but only slightly. As far as shoes shrinking, I haven't really noticed this with my trail shoes but I do look after them. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Yes big help. Thank you.
how about saucony endorphin edge fitting size,.. true size or 1 size up?
I found the Endorphin Edge to be true to size 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Really helpful Loyd, many thanks!
I'm glad you thought so John 👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
The problem with 'truebto size' is that I don't even know my proper size anymore. Not just running shoes but all shoes just vary so much, I don't know if I'm an 8, 8.5 or 9. Based on descriptions I just buy 2 sizes and send 1 back but I hate doing that
Having worked in the running shoe industry for 10 years I can definitely say that shoe sizes have always been very different. You could be a uk9 in one brand and a uk10 in another, that how it's always been and it's very frustrating! 😔
There was one time I had 3 pairs of Hoka shoes and one was a uk9.5, another was a uk10 and I even had a uk10.5 but they all fitted the same 🤔
Great video lots of info. I have a pair of xodus 10 shoes in a uk size 10, I am looking at getting a pair of xodus ultras will the sizing be the same.
Please do a Fell Running shoe buyers guide/reviews especially of the Inov8 Talon Ultra 260 and the VJ Sport Irocks
The X-Talon Ultra 260 was featured in this video Keagan and I've reviewed the shoe on the channel? 🤔
Unfortunately, my two local running shops dont stock size 12 in any shoe and didn’t have a single trail shoe in stock, shame as they have to be selective over stock as they get so little customers these days😞
Im a size 7.5 in saucony endorphins, do you think the same size for peregrines? Thank you
Hi there great video and tips. I am looking at buying my 1st trail shoes. I am a overpronated as well which makes it even harded 2 choose a shoe. For road running i use Asics gel kayano 29, wonderful for the road running and long runs. Have used it for trail runs as well but lacking the grip. Any suggestions for what trail shoes i need to look at? Thanks in advance😀
Pretty much all trail running shoes are neutral in structure because the trail environment is a lot more forgiving, less impact than the road and less repetitive! 👍
My advice would be to go along to a running specialists that stocks a lot of different trail shoes and try on as many as possible. If you can't do that, maybe have a look at some of the Asics trail shoes because you'll be use to the brand from your road running shoes 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Loyd
Another great video Lloyd! Some fantastic tips but for the everyday do anything trail shoe would you choose the Parkclaw G280 or the Wildhorse 8? I am struggling to make up my mind!
Glad you enjoyed the video Graham. I would personally choose the Nike Wildhorse 8 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure interesting. Looking forward to your long run test on the wild horse 👍
I see you got the wild horse 8 there. How is it so far? Is it your top shoe now? Also, any thoughts about the North face vectiv enduris 2? I am comparing those 2 at the moment and what is important for me is rock plate, grip, and energy return from the foam.
Great video! I've got my eye on those Xodus Ultra.
Where do you get your socks from?
The Xodus Ultra is a great shoe Nicholas. All my socks are from Stance, they make great socks in awesome colours and designs. Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great video Loyd!
Thanks mate 🙏😊
Question: I overpronate, so looking for a stability focused trail shoe, which would you recommend? I use the Guide 15 wide for road running.
Road running shoes and trail running shoes are very different when it comes to the level of structure Praveen. The road is a harsh, repetitive environment and the trails are a lot more forgiving. Because of this pretty much ever trail shoe is a neutral shoes so you won't find one with a medial post support like your Guides. I woukd suggest going to a running shop and trying several pairs on if you can. If you cant do that then the Peregrine 13 or the Xodus Ultra from Saucony are both good trail shoes. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Loyd
Good video. Looking to get my first trail running shoes, dome most of my running on asphalt before, but looking ti hit the trails nearby. Not a racer, just running for exercise. 5-15k most of the times . Looking at the Speedgoat 5 and also the Vectiv flight that are currently on sale and have a similar pricetag. Seems the shoes are quite different since there are no comparisons between those two shoes. wich one should i pick?
Thanks Peter, glad you enjoyed the video. I'd always recommend going into a running shop and trying on as many trail shoes as possible and seeing what fits you best. If this isn't possible, the Flight Vectiv has a Carbon plate in the midsole that you probably don't need. The Speedgoat trail shoe is very popular but it's also deeply cushioned so you'll have less ground feel. I've got a review of both above shoes on the channel. I'd also recommend checking out the Saucony Xodus Ultra 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Yes, i checked al those videos out as well. :) Local shops ain´t got much trail shoes unfortunately. However i did try on the Speedgoat 5 today and it felt nice. (same nice feeling as my road shoes). Also tried on a Peregrin13, but not in the right size so couldnt really make a judgement.
I also checked out your Saucony Ultra 2 and Peregrine 13 videos. I had Saucony running shoe many years ago that i really enjoyed. So now i have 4 shoes to choose from :)
Pricetag now for the Vective Flight is around 110 euros for them and 120 for the Speedgoat. Peregrine at 150, and the Ultra 2 i found for 170. Ordered the Vective flight earlier today ( the limited green edition that looks ind of funny) and will probably order a Speedgoat5 and one of the Saucony´s to try them on and return the ones i don't keep.
Thanks keep up the good work!
Great advice, thank you.
Thanks for this guide! very helpfu! the trails in my area get super muddy after the rain. not really deep muddy but slippery muddy. i have the nike pegasus trail 3. i like them, they are really comfy but when it comes to running in mud they fail miserably so im looking for new shoes but I can't decide between the mafate speed 4 and the xodus ultra (2)... i like everything i hear about the xodus ultra but i feel the mafate 4s have a better and more grippy outsole since it's from vibram, right? is there a big difference in grippiness between the outsole of both shoes, especially in mud? thanks in advance for any help!
The Mafate Speed 4's outsole is definitely a bit more grippy because of the Vibram megagrip. As far as mud goes there's not a lot in it but maybe the lugs on the Mafate do give a bit more traction? I totally agree the Nike's are terrible in wet muddy conditions, lethal! 😲
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure wow thanks for the fast response and help! Yeah, first time i ever slipped and fell on my butt was with the nikes in mud :( don't want to have that happen ever again so i'll go with the hokas! thanks again for the help and have a good weekend 🙏
Any thoughts towards the Addidas Terrex Speed Pro? I could grab a pair for £65. They'd be used for light trails, going fast begween 5k and HM. I already own Speedgoat 5 for the slower, longer cushioned ride.
I've not run in the Terrex Speed Pro but I have heard good feedback, I think it's the best shoe in the Terrex line up. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure sold! Thanks for the reply!
@@Barnzah No problem, hope you like them 👍😊
@@Run4Adventure I'll be sure to check back once I've had a crack at a few trail park runs! 👊
Wow. What are the chances. I'm after some trail shows as I started running last year at Perkins but now getting the bug. Watched this and recognised so.e of the sections as I live in Illogan. I have Brooks Ghost 14 but and from what I've seen the speedgoat look appealing. I'm normally 8.5 and 9 in a trainer. Bought 9.5 in my Brooks which are comfy but could have possibly got away with a nine but that's online for you
Park runs 😁
The Speedgoats will size a bit smaller than your Brooks Ghost and they'll be a bit narrower in the toe box. I'd always recommend trying to go somewhere and try some on because the Speedgoat feels very different compared to your Ghosts. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Loyd
Thank you. I'll try some on. Sorry I was typing on an old tablet and it autocorrected the words incorrectly 😂
Peregrine 12's. I'm a UK 9.5 in normal shoes & running, but I've seen some saying up half a size or stick true to size.
Any opinions?
I’ve got Peregine 12’s. Measured my feet in cm with the socks I’m using and ordered 1/2 size larger from Amazon in wide, they fit like a glove
@@BM-ms3gr I actually went with my correct size in the end. Done a couple of short runs and climbed a mountain last weekend with no issues. Very happy with them.
How do you feel about BOAs on trail running shoes?
I wasn't sure about them at first 🤔 However I tested out the Kailas EX BOA last year and really enjoyed them and the BOA system worked really well 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
0:17 not familiar with uk situation....why running shops are disappearing? Becoming more online i guess?
Unfortunately a lot of the running specialists are having to close in the UK because people are buying else way 😕😕😕
great guide
Thanks Martin. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Loyd
can i ask where if your table of points with top 10 shoes
We don't have one, sorry 😕
I measure my shoesize in cm thats easier to see what size i got. Now my question, i go up half a cm or half a size for trail shoes instead of road shoes. Is that really necessarry?
I go same as road shoes as long as you have about a thumbs-width in front. You don't want to swim inside trail shoes.
It takes a lot of trial-and-error (i.e., some wasted money on shoes you'll not wear often or ever again) to find the right running shoes, whether they are for the trail or the road. By doing a lot of research (reviews and user comments), I've been mostly successful with the shoes I've acquired but there are always a few that don't work out. Every person has his or her unique foot shape and personal preferences for how they want the shoes to feel and the unique requirements they have.
My feet are a little wide on the forefoot and standard width or even a little narrow in the mid-foot and the heel, so they are a bit triangular shaped. Sometimes I have to wear the wide EE-size from some brands but, most of the time, I'm fine with the standard size (TTS 8 US). For trail shoes, I've found the inov-8 and Hoka shoes to be on the narrow side in the forefoot area but I've been able to make them work. Saucony shoes have all worked out great for me in terms of fit - especially in the forefoot area. I have two pairs of Xodus Ultra, Endorphin Edge, and just got the Peregrine 13 and they all fit me great. I plan to add the Xodus Ultra 2 as soon as it becomes available.
It's interesting because Saucony's road shoes (Endorphin Pro 3 and Speed 3) feel narrow in the forefoot to me and aren't all that comfortable to me, even when I go up half-size, which makes them a little too long. They feel so different from the aforementioned trail shoes, even the midsole foam. For me, Saucony's PWRRUN PB and PWRRUN foams feel perfect for the trail but I prefer others (Adidas's Lightstrike Pro, Nike's ZoomX, ASICS's FF Blast+, and NB's FuelCell) for the road. Not sure why this is but all that matters is what feels the most comfortable and "right" to each individual runner. For me, it's Adidas Adizero line for the road and Saucony for the trail with a few from Hoka (mainly the Mafate Speed 4 which I really like) and inov-8.
Very well done Lloyd! I think surface and distance should be the first criteria, and sizing the last. You covered a wide range of brands, which is amazing. Maybe one day you try VJ shoes from Finland. Amazing grip. In the « road-to-trail » category I believe that the Adidas Terrex Speed Ultra is a great contender. Tom Evans was involved in its development. Not a recent shoe but a great one still.
Sizing criteria last?? You can’t be serious, a good fit is absolutely critical, and should be the main concern, always!
Also, if the online store and your budget allows, buy a size up and down as well, so you can fit all three at home and then return two of them and pick one.
No Xodus ultra on that list....
I mentioned the Xodus Ultra several times in the video David. The list was additional shoes that would do a similar job 👍
I must be going senile in my old age😂
Am I the only one that notices he ends with the tone of a question, but he is not asking a question
Not really sure what you are talking about Nick but thanks for watching 👍
Interesting tips, Loyd. Here is my like. A nice monday for everyone. 🌞🏃⛰️
Really useful tips Loyd, thanks for this. It's really tricky with width as I sometimes find that some wide versions of running shoes are not wide in the right places. I've got the ultra glides in wide but the midfoot is still a bit narrow