Migration was… disappointing |miraculous season 5 episode 13 analysis|

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  • @Feiriiz
    @Feiriiz ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As someone who was a therapist friend for years, it gets a lot for someone. I wish they had gotten into his personality more and the fact that even if he’s seen as more mature than others, he’s still A KID, and yes they went into it a bit but at the end he’s still viewed as if all this pressure wouldn’t break a literally 15-16 year old boy 😭

  • @cacaumassipanoficial6203
    @cacaumassipanoficial6203 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    It's ironic that when Luka tells Marinete the truth he says she knows where to find him if she needs, but in the end he leaves to travel around the world so now she doesn't even know where he is 😅

  • @cacaumassipanoficial6203
    @cacaumassipanoficial6203 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    4:08 if you look at the scene you can see that Luka didn't believe Bob and only accepted because his friends were very excited and he didn't want to let them down, and this is something that could be explored in his character, Luka always wants to help even if he has to do something he doesn't want to do, and that would make him feel worse and worse until he reached the limit.

  • @wingeddevil08
    @wingeddevil08 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wish there had been ANY sort of conversation between Luka and Adrien before Luka left. Luka being the one person who knows his identity as Cat Noir and Adrien having someone to talk to about it besiders Plagg could have been a great storyline in general, but even just for Adrien to be like, "Hey, uh, thanks for keeping my secret, even though I didn't know you knew." would have given more than the ending did, imo.

  • @cacaumassipanoficial6203
    @cacaumassipanoficial6203 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The show tends to create a problem and make it seem like it's growing into something big only to be resolved in a simple conversation that lasts seconds, SECONDS, how can a mess that was created in so many episodes be resolved in ONE SCENE with a few SECONDS?!

    • @TheCartoonHotspot
      @TheCartoonHotspot  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Exactly! So it leaves the audience unsatisfied. I can see why people are dropping the show and I don’t blame them :/

  • @shootingstarssel4182
    @shootingstarssel4182 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Migration isn't my favorite episode of season 5 because there was a lot the writers could've done with Luka knowing the truth about their secret identities, especially in the first couple episodes of the season where he could've come to Marinette's house or school to see if she's okay and to see if Adrien's okay. And add a bit of drama, Lila interacting with Luka only for her to be surprised that Luka can see right through her and not buy any of her BS. I do like how Luka didn't believe right away what Bob was saying but only said yes because everyone else was excited about the record deal and wanted everyone to be happy. The scene where Luka was acting as everyone's therapy was me back in high school, XD. I wish we could've seen more of Luka before he left in the first half of the season and I love your take on what they could've done with his character; he's one of my favorite characters; this sucks.

  • @cacaumassipanoficial6203
    @cacaumassipanoficial6203 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I understand that Luka wouldn't be able to give a good explanation of why he needs to leave, but openly saying that he knows the heroes' identities could cause trouble later...

  • @cacaumassipanoficial6203
    @cacaumassipanoficial6203 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I like the way Luka treats others, but I hope one day we get an episode where he gets the same help he gives, if he is the one who always knows what to do to help others with their problems what will happen when he be the one who needs the same help? I mean, the fact that he openly says he knows the heroes' identities could definitely cause trouble later on.

  • @michalelkin-bronner13
    @michalelkin-bronner13 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Luka is a great character but he was not given enough development

  • @swymaj02
    @swymaj02 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    10:24
    Agree with all that. And Kagami possibly being a sentimonster as well was so random.
    About Alix, she finds out in S3 she's a hero in the future, but spends the next season and a half not doing much about it. She really only gets the rabbit in the end for convenience, after ladybug having been nicked from 95% of the miraculouses, not because she proved herself in civilian form. Miraculous need to realise that raising stakes in a kids show is fine, heck, it's great.

  • @harriyanna
    @harriyanna ปีที่แล้ว +10

    girl when i tell you my care for this season is so low the bar is in satan's play pin. this is just disappointing at this point.

  • @anamarsel9615
    @anamarsel9615 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Luka is wasted potential lmaooo but I blame the writers :/

  • @janerarity_plays
    @janerarity_plays ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Luka deserves better because he is always there when anyone needed him especially with marinette.....all he wanted was everyone to be happy and that puts him last.😢

  • @cacaumassipanoficial6203
    @cacaumassipanoficial6203 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I would have liked to seen Luka struggle a bit but keep progressing in move on from Marinete, Kagami also seemed completely fine until her feelings of love for Adrien returned and she was conflicted, the same thing could have happened to Luka, he is calm and knows how to solve things but he is still human and is not immune to everything...

  • @kainightshade5033
    @kainightshade5033 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My girl, you have done it once again!! Your "rough version ideas" are miles better than what we got. Idk what it is about Miraculous writers setting up amazing storyarcs and then either forgetting about them or missing the mark totally! What you said about Luka having low self-esteem and self-respect was SPOT ON! I've felt that way ever since he decided to date a girl who's emotionally attached to someone else was a good idea 😂 I mean, poor baby! He is definitely the therapist friend and has so much wasted potential. All in all, S5 is my favorite out of all the seasons but the narrative structure still needs A LOT of work! I have hope for S6 as our resident manchild and 70% of the series hindrance, Thomas Asstruc (that was on purpose), will be leaving the writing room PERMANATELY!

  • @akdami1
    @akdami1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    8:13 You're right, their relationship wasn't solved after the episode Kuro Neko. The season 4 finale was the one which made each other more united than ever. Ladybug then finally confesed to Cat noir that she kept secrets and pushed him away (this is their main reason as to how their conflict started)

  • @akdami1
    @akdami1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From a small leak I've seen, Luka will have a much bigger role in the future episodes. I don't know much about it, so i guess we'll wait and see

  • @BabitaKumari-hk9ci
    @BabitaKumari-hk9ci ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought Luka is a musician and not a therapist😂😂

  • @cacaumassipanoficial6203
    @cacaumassipanoficial6203 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bob and the others act like Juleka wasn't Luka's sister and Jagged's daughter too...

    • @TheCartoonHotspot
      @TheCartoonHotspot  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah that’s what annoys me about them lmao

  • @Sayuri.Falconer
    @Sayuri.Falconer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think Luka had to leave for the same reason that he's everybody's therapist. He feels like he's the smartest person there and he can't grow from what other people might tell him, and in some ways he's leading others astray when he tries to give people what they want (signing the contract). From the job search episode it seems like he has everything figured out, but something is still missing. I think he will come back an even more well rounded character. I think the inconsistent writing just shows that Marinette grew as a person from being the guardian. What would be the point of getting mad at Luka for lying? Especially since he was ready to take responsibility as soon as it became an issue and leave Paris. Marinette and her lack of control over her feelings was more of a liability than Luka knowing her secret, because he has higher emotional intelligence and could resist the Akuma. Marinette almost couldn't resist the Akuma until Cat Noir kissed her. Marinette was traumatized by losing the miraculous and learned that she can trust her friends, because Alya lying to her wasn't what lost the miraculous, it was her own lack of trusting Cat Noir, and trying to keep control of everything to compensate for her lack of emotional maturity (not her fault since she's a kid but still).

  • @maryshashaw2895
    @maryshashaw2895 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m sad he left but he will be back soon I can’t wait I do feel it was a bit anticlimactic between luka and Mari especially how angry she was at chat for no reason

  • @Ivypool123
    @Ivypool123 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i liked the Episode because it was really funny most of the time
    ecspecially the Duck Song and when Bob got thrown from the boat many Times😂😂
    and i agree with you about Luka

  • @emiyuu5112
    @emiyuu5112 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i LOVE the idea of hawk moth targeting luka after he figures out he knows the heroes' identities. i think it would be so cool if the climax was luka absolutely breaking down because of all the helping he's been doing while getting no help himself, all the supressing of his emotions and the constant targeting by the series' biggest villain. i really enjoyed this video :]

  • @kaijunasan4497
    @kaijunasan4497 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I LOVED this episode, but I think what we need is the entire show needs some kind of boost in ratings. More focus on all the other characters and more villains to explore. Some can potentially be way better than useless liela

  • @Mimikyuzzz
    @Mimikyuzzz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I already know you ate this

  • @swymaj02
    @swymaj02 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With all that said, I liked the episode. It was funny, especially the Therapy scene (Luka is a therapist at heart). Like, we get a mid two shot of Luka and *insert character*, 180-degree from Character to Luka when he asks "are you sure that's why you came here?", and does a tilt up mid wide shot of them on the bed. That cracked me up.

  • @greenheart4295
    @greenheart4295 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    there was so much potential and the writers just gave up

  • @matthewromano2450
    @matthewromano2450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel bad for him he deserves better

  • @nikisha1791
    @nikisha1791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know I said it before and I will sat it again. The way how you analyze this show they really need you for this show to be better 😢.

  • @AriPegasis
    @AriPegasis ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I usually dont watch such videos but i knew you wouldnt say some stupid stuff and would be logical. And that was the case. Good analysis, but me personally, im just gonna continue to watch the show from a perspective where i enjoy what im given and dont think about what couldve been. I actually like Luka and dont mind his writing at all, though the ideas you had were very interesting indeed. As always, thank you for the new perspectives.

    • @TheCartoonHotspot
      @TheCartoonHotspot  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you so much! And honestly I don’t even blame you! I’ve tried to continuing watching the show in a positive viewpoint but its flaws are becoming too distracting to ignore but I respect your opinion🤍🤍🤍

  • @yourfavoriteoompaloompa139
    @yourfavoriteoompaloompa139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy how Hawk moth makes the stupidest, lack luster decisions all seasons then NOW he gets an epiphany like he doesn’t seem smart enough to guess on his OWN to just know that Luka knew Chat and Ladybug’s identity just cause he broke his guitar like PLEASEEE

  • @wendyboles5960
    @wendyboles5960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking of Luka; how adorable is this child in the Miraculous Musical? Both him and Adrien and the characters

  • @ItzZay1
    @ItzZay1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alix literally could’ve taken Luka’s miraculous so Monarch wouldn’t get it

  • @rabiahbosriali4218
    @rabiahbosriali4218 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I'm being completely honest, I can't say that I enjoyed the episode. I was just annoyed the whole time I was watching it. I was annoyed by Bob Roth and how unrepentantly greedy he was, I was annoyed at the band, Luka especially, for being gullible enough to fall for his obvious trick, and I was annoyed at the writers for just writing Luka out of the story. That part made me feel like they just did it because they really didn't know what to do with Luka's character from that point on.

  • @elinasakura
    @elinasakura ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know it’s also kind of offensive how Bob Roth seems more interesting in just Luka, than interested in both Luka and his twin sister Juleka (aka the daughter of Jagged Stone). Not to say Bob Roth should also take advantage of her like Luka, but still.

  • @elinasakura
    @elinasakura ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I completely agree how the show writers tend to set up such interesting story arcs like Luka learning both the heroes’ identities, but then do nothing that can impact the characters and the plot overall in the series, not just strictly in certain episodes and that’s it.
    This is problematic as the show seems to have a problem when it comes to balancing episodic and serialized episodes and storylines. That’s not to say a hybrid show of episodic and serialized storylines can’t work, we see it can like in Amphibia, but the problem is that they try to go along the route of making the episodes self-contained and can be watched in any orders.
    As for my thoughts on the other storylines:
    I don’t really care if Chloé gets a redemption arc or become a villain as long as she still remains as a good character, but sadly she is getting ruined. Not to mention, the consequences from Miracle Queen is never established like the heroes’ identities being revealed, yet they still get to be heroes despite their identities being revealed. And, I’m sorry to call out on Marinette but I blame the writers for this, it makes Marinette look like a hypocrite because the reason why Chloé started falling to darkness externally is because she couldn’t be Queen Bee anymore because she revealed her identity to the public, including Gabriel. And yes, I know there was a moment in Marinette’s dream that suggests she is aware of her hypocrisy, but they never do anything about it again.
    The Ladynoir conflict definitely felt off to me with the conclusion, and you’re right about having reused Adrien giving up his miraculous for the third time. Honestly, I think it would have been better if Cat Noir breaks off from the team and works on his own instead like a vigilante. It would have set up a much more interesting conflict and something new at the same time. Allow them to shine on their own before they come back together. Plus, I really hate when conflict between characters is never shown or addressed so we can see a resolution.
    The sentibeing storyline would have been interesting, but it did kind of came in late into the story. I know part of it is because the sentibeing weren’t introduced until the end of season 2, but they could have hinted or explored on it a little more.
    They literally had a chance to give a Gabriel, Nathalie, and Emilie backstory in the episode Gabriel Agreste, but (and again this is not to hate Marinette) the writers decide to add yet another Marinette shenanigan b-plot that actually adds absolutely nothing to the overarching story whatsoever. Could the writers kill to just let Marinette be on the side and let Adrien and the other characters take the spotlight? It’s really not that hard.
    Plus, there are other storylines that were dropped or completely forgotten as well, like Hawk Moth’s obsession to akumatize Marinette in season 3, only to just completely drop it without any explanation why, or that kiss at the end of season 2 that was implying to be progression for Adrienette, only to act like it never happened.
    I swear, the writers just never want to go further into the conflict and story that has so much potential, and ends up botching it so hard (I’m sorry if I sound a little incoherent, it’s late on my end and my brain is getting too tired).

  • @the_mad_bunnyx9537
    @the_mad_bunnyx9537 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a different take on MLB 'settings thing up' and not following through. I like it because it makes the show less predictable and more realistic. Too many shows have arcs that are telegraphed a mile a way. It makes them much less realistic and, to me, boring. MLB is always zigging when you expect it to zag and I like that. What seems like a setup often is not and small details that are easy to miss are the true setup.
    Conflicts in real life don't just end with a dramatic scene. They come and go flaring up then settling down and sometimes they just fizzle out. Take, for example, Ladynoir. The conflict with Ladynoir due to Chat Noir's unrequited love ended with a fizzle when he realized that he needed to move on or as he says in 'Glaciater 3' (aka Elation); it was too much to bear and it made him do things he did not like.
    Sorry for the length of my rant. I do like you video quite a bit and am looking forward to you next installment.

  • @gordonfan291
    @gordonfan291 ปีที่แล้ว

    biggest thing that hurt for me in the Luka knows their identities storyline was that I just kinda hoped Luka would help Adrien out with his Cat Noir struggles both with being Cat Noir and Adrien but also with being left out by Ladybug or even just more "Luka shows wisdom" moments but the writers opted not to do that. I did like that this episode gave Luka consequences for his lie even if it was done in a somewhat unsatisfactory way. I liked the episode though and its placement within the season (watched it all in order thanks to Disney following the airing order)

  • @alanadavis8568
    @alanadavis8568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm gonna miss Luka

  • @Rosa_roi
    @Rosa_roi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    +spoiler this is a theory due to the episodes shown I guess it makes sense on why Gabriel will send Adrien to London (or wherever he makes him go) because that's probably where Luka will be for Gabriel to get Luka to tell him who is ladybug and chat noir by akumatising him or manipulating him

  • @adrianrrahmani7175
    @adrianrrahmani7175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have lissen luka bekom the Gardinen of the miraculous and Training with su han for protect the secret of them to Potencial is in him 👍

  • @viktoriaschweizer8724
    @viktoriaschweizer8724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I cant wait for the video!

  • @sampada7603
    @sampada7603 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with you totally . They could have done better. For me this episode was okayish.

  • @damiakande242
    @damiakande242 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really wish they used Luka in more interesting ways I feel like they didn’t do enough with his character

  • @CjAllen-g7b
    @CjAllen-g7b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with migration and miraculous as a whole is the writers have the idea and start of a storyline but don’t have a ending and also forgetting storylines until they are nessaceary

  • @karmaslyrics
    @karmaslyrics ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish Adrien and Luka had a moment of the reveal because he does have a better friendship with him. Adrien doesn't go to nino so if it was to happen, how would he be trusted besides Marinette?

  • @Thesilentvoice...
    @Thesilentvoice... ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait Luka is gone from the show? I haven’t watched or kept up with s5 so much. No he’s my favourite character and wasn’t used enough in the show. This sucks.

  • @skyworld3393
    @skyworld3393 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This comment is to help the algorithm recognize great content. 👍

  • @daviddada3428
    @daviddada3428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ratio + Marinette better

  • @random8163
    @random8163 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant wait 🤍🤍

  • @Soomi.kk1
    @Soomi.kk1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree

  • @swymaj02
    @swymaj02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:12
    Doesn't Luka mean Wound in French? So he's a walking Wound if u think about it.

  • @fernandoy.narciso
    @fernandoy.narciso ปีที่แล้ว

    Luka was just too available for everyone. Now that the bald guy will apparently train him to become a guardian of the Miraculous people will really have to EARN his availability.

    • @Lommany
      @Lommany ปีที่แล้ว

      sounds like a promotion)