omg thank you! I hear this all the time with re to criminals and it drives me batty. Like wtf is wrong with people who just speak on automatic? Words matter and it doesn't take but a moment to realize that when you're speaking about a criminal, never mind a murderer, the word gentleman does not apply. Jeezus!
@@mariarohmer2374 that, and everyone is a “suspect.” I get the whole, innocent until proven guilty BS but we’ve got video of EVERYTHING now and when some gunman is shooting at people and then SHOT DEAD on video, it’s not a suspect. It’s a f’king dead gunman. You have a suspect when you catch someone. That’s another one that drives me insane.
@@msannthrope1863Yes, exactly! It's such a mind F, isn't it? Especially for victims and their families who have to endure all the offense and insults (so many). The laws are unfair and even cruel towards victims. Btw a couple of years ago I said pretty much the same thing you did here after seeing a video where the detective or officer called the perp "gentleman." I was so offended and wrote that. There were a number of people defending him I could not believe it. They're like oh that's just how people talk, he's a professional or just being polite and I was like wtf?? Are you kidding? Words matter! Let's be clear on who or what a real gentleman is. Okay, world?
especially when you consider their chances of getting away was zero, and they were very naive to think there wouldn't be people almost immediately alarmed and looking for their boat. Senseless loss of lives of a completely innocent couple trying to enjoy semi-retirement.
I lost respect for the attorney Michael Winkleman when he states "when the captured these three gentelmen"., no it's three evil scumbags. Who does this crap? That's the problem in this world, people accept this and move on, like it's just another crime.
Unfortunately before they are tried, they are presumed innocent so they will also use allegedly which bothers me when all evidence points to their guilt.
Very unfortunate and to be thrown overboard is frightful and as said bodies most likely won't be recovered how horrific for the family!!! Where did they escape from ???
@mariaslavinski1588 Oh yes, I've heard about the haitian prisoners. That country can't get a break 🤦🏾♀️. Grenada is a beautiful place, though. It's unfortunate that a few wayward people ruin it for others.
@@DaisyDay.-gm5ibSo many people go on a trip or vacation and meet the worst fate. Every human being has to be on alert and I guess expect the worst everywhere we go. It's the truth.
@@scubabro9471crazy to know you would let your guard down around “escaped prisoners/evil and dangerous criminals”. What a world we live in, but we kind of already knew that. To each their own.
This is horrible , I can’t imagine what this couple went through…it’s heartbreaking ! This is what happened to another couple who were thrown overboard alive ,same scenario Skylar & Jennifer Deleon set up Thomas & Jackie Hawks for their yacht .
God created Satan from Lucifer, who rebelled against Him…. Who is the father of the ‘father of lies’? God created demons too… He knit babies in their mother’s wombs…. All this evil is just a contest between God and Satan….people are just caught up in the middle. Sinner need to repent…but it’s to be saved from the wrath of God~~ the ultimate
Arrested before on a violent robbery case but bailed out for peanuts to kill and rob again ? The judges that keep bailing these monsters need to explain themselves
they was not on bailed they escape from prison. and did that ,it is very sad, that happened, we as Grenadines are very sorry, but we are not bad people, it's just a few.
Even worse that you cannot bring guns with you into other countries' waters cause they all have crap gun laws. Criminals will start targeting yachts now. They know they are defenseless.
This is so sad and heartbreaking. Those Murderers are Beyond Evil! May this Couple rest in peace and Deep Condolences to their family and loved ones. 😢💔🕊️🙏🕊️💔💐
For the record, they were not docked in a marina. They were anchored off a beach. Also, hard to see why they would be extradited to the US for a crime committed by Grenadians in Grenada. No precedent there as far as I know.
Thanks for that response, as a sailor I have been trying to figure this one out but have not found this information. Was this published somewhere. I think if they were secure in the cabin this would not have happened, I know that if my sailboat companion way is locked then there is not way to access the boat unless you want to cut through 2 inches of fiber glass.
@@ejdd3442 From AIS data for the yacht, it appears that Simplicity was anchored off Grand Anse beach in Grenadian waters from 11th Feb to 18th Feb. It then moved north to St Vincent, arriving St Vincent on the 19th Feb.
@@yuditilany It was boarded and stolen in Grenadian waters (when anchored off Grand Anse beach), and then taken north to St Vincent. Unlikely that it spent any time in international waters.
If you are carrying firearm(s) on your boat and you enter a foreign country, isnt it true you have to declare your firearms and surrender them to the proper authority?
It’s sad that people are gonna literally have to get hurt before everyone starts to realize we’re not all the same. There are groups of people who are almost 100 times more likely to hurt you or SA you. The last 50 years has been about conditioning people to believe their natural survival instincts are wrong and we’re terrible people if we follow them.
Exactly 💯 trying to teach us not to judge a book by its cover, or don't follow your gut, or try to get to know them first has hindered our natural human instinct , we shouldn't feel guilty for knowing better and following our God instinct Hahaha to all the people who don't get it
Guns are prohibited in some countries on water due to their individual maritime laws so some people don't carry them on boats bc it's a major hassle if you get caught with one
Geography’s not your strong point eh? The pirate issues are frequently occurring halfway around the world from the Carib. This type of issue is pretty rare here.
For those who are complaining about the attorneys "polite" language as a lawyer he has been trained, and is basically required by his profession, to be impartially objective in his demeanor so to be most effective in his analysis and presentation.
The crimnals got out of jail at the South Grenada Police Station because the lock on the cell door was broken and no one fixed it. All they had to do then was to walk across a small road to the beach and make their getaway and kill the yacht owners. They have admitted to this but excess force might have been used. Yachties here sleep with their boats open for the breeze which is beyond foolish but it does happen all the time
These 3 took control of the yacht in a marina at the docks. Few yachts carry weapons. Few countries allow them to be brought into their waters. The ones who do require rediculous things like they have to be locked up and inaccessible. Marinas are generally safer than being anchored alone. Have been many reports of thefts at anchor recently. They have been extradited back to Grenada. They left marina in early morning. This guy is not an expert by any means. Old story from a few weeks ago.
Tom and Jackie Hawkes story 2.0. One of first Dateline stories i think ive ever scene was their story and murder and to this day it has to be one of nost diabolical and deceiving,coniving stories ive ever heard in true crime. Just horrible way to go. If your interested look it up im sure its still on TH-cam but you have been warned. Extremely sad story.
US Flagged vessel? 🇺🇸 Then bring the pirates to a southern state or Gitmo. I bet this story is a million times worse than what's been reported, if you think about it.
My heart goes out to these folks and their family. This guy referring to the suspects as ‘gentleman’ threw me for a loop! The boat was anchored, not in a marina. His comment about the Bahamas being dangerous was BS unless in Nassau. There are over 1200 islands in the Bahamas most of which are very safe. I have been sailing there for over 40 years without incident but I am very careful if I have to go to Nassau for any reason. Grenada is a very popular spot for cruising sailboats and generally pretty safe. So unbelievably sad that this happened 💙
“These three gentlemen”??? PLEASE stop referring to criminals as gentlemen. They’re NOT.
omg thank you! I hear this all the time with re to criminals and it drives me batty. Like wtf is wrong with people who just speak on automatic? Words matter and it doesn't take but a moment to realize that when you're speaking about a criminal, never mind a murderer, the word gentleman does not apply. Jeezus!
I see 3 doctors, 3 lawyers, 3 scholars.
100%. It absolutely does my head in when the most evil people are referred to as gentlemen or ladies
@@mariarohmer2374 that, and everyone is a “suspect.” I get the whole, innocent until proven guilty BS but we’ve got video of EVERYTHING now and when some gunman is shooting at people and then SHOT DEAD on video, it’s not a suspect. It’s a f’king dead gunman. You have a suspect when you catch someone. That’s another one that drives me insane.
@@msannthrope1863Yes, exactly! It's such a mind F, isn't it? Especially for victims and their families who have to endure all the offense and insults (so many). The laws are unfair and even cruel towards victims. Btw a couple of years ago I said pretty much the same thing you did here after seeing a video where the detective or officer called the perp "gentleman." I was so offended and wrote that. There were a number of people defending him I could not believe it. They're like oh that's just how people talk, he's a professional or just being polite and I was like wtf?? Are you kidding? Words matter! Let's be clear on who or what a real gentleman is. Okay, world?
This is absolutely inconceivable. My heart goes out for the couple's family. I hope they receive Justice.
It's not though.
So, so cruel and callous.
especially when you consider their chances of getting away was zero, and they were very naive to think there wouldn't be people almost immediately alarmed and looking for their boat. Senseless loss of lives of a completely innocent couple trying to enjoy semi-retirement.
That guy just called these lowlifes gentlemen. He's high.
High on money
Where is the evidence ???
mother father gentleman
Mere convention, calm yourself.
@@hd-xc2lz 🙄🙄
I lost respect for the attorney Michael Winkleman when he states "when the captured these three gentelmen"., no it's three evil scumbags. Who does this crap? That's the problem in this world, people accept this and move on, like it's just another crime.
Unfortunately before they are tried, they are presumed innocent so they will also use allegedly which bothers me when all evidence points to their guilt.
@@Goldiegirl2009 Escaped convicts cannot in any sense be considered gentlemen.
This is absolutely tragic. My heart goes out to the family. 💔💔❤️.
..3 escaped from prison!!??..that alone should be accountable
I agree with you here my friend
Probably 3 of the 4000 escaped Haitian prisoners headed our way. The waters aren’t safe.
This guy says America's court system is the best in the world. If that's true that's fkn scary.
No courts needed for these types of "gentlemen." Woodchipper
They're NOT gentlemen !!!
It makes my blood boil & they do it all the f-ing time! @3:21 😠
Clown world
They are sorry POS
WelfareMen
Anyone who sails, know Pirates are real . Protect yourself ANYWHERE/EVERYWHERE you go.
Pirates are very real. They seek boats for drug trafficking.
These 3 weren't pirates. They took control of the yacht in a marina at a dock.
Piracy is very rare in most areas of the world.
Crime is everywhere. And, as these poor people learned, hoping it doesn't happen to you, isn't much of a plan.
The restriction on travelers to carry a firearm on their yacht is crazy
Gladly only in the US people are gun crazy... thankfully in most of the rest of the world carrying a gun is a crime.
Very unfortunate and to be thrown overboard is frightful and as said bodies most likely won't be recovered how horrific for the family!!! Where did they escape from ???
They escaped from a prison in Grenada.
@@melistasy ty for the info appreciate ya❤️ The reason I had asked was a few days back 4000 prisoners escaped from Haiti prison😳Imagine that mess😳😲
@mariaslavinski1588 Oh yes, I've heard about the haitian prisoners. That country can't get a break 🤦🏾♀️.
Grenada is a beautiful place, though. It's unfortunate that a few wayward people ruin it for others.
They escaped from a local jail. (which tales you what it means in this nation.....!)
@@isabelle_Unity no, it doesn't. tell us what it means in this nation??
This is so extremely sad.😢😢😢my gosh she does not look 71
I'm so sorry 😢🤦🏾♀️
Money will do that.
My Condolences to the Family and Friends, May they Rest Peacefully 🙏🏼 🙏🏼✝️
@@DaisyDay.-gm5ibSo many people go on a trip or vacation and meet the worst fate. Every human being has to be on alert and I guess expect the worst everywhere we go. It's the truth.
She DID NOT look 71. Past tense
Senseless murders. This world is crazy.
My thoughts & Prayers to their family, this is such a shame.
Not realy nothing new
Never let your guard down around them.
Them?
@@scubabro9471 Them who would harm you.
@@scubabro9471Yes, them, it's obvious if you have a brain.
@@scubabro9471crazy to know you would let your guard down around “escaped prisoners/evil and dangerous criminals”.
What a world we live in, but we kind of already knew that.
To each their own.
Around ANYONE!
This reminds me of the cruelty of the Tom and Jackie Hawks case. So sad.
Yes, my exact thoughts! So Eerily similar & so so sad! 💔
This is horrible , I can’t imagine what this couple went through…it’s heartbreaking ! This is what happened to another couple who were thrown overboard alive ,same scenario Skylar & Jennifer Deleon set up Thomas & Jackie Hawks for their yacht .
Is it the one where they were tied to the anchor?
😢I was thinking of them too. ❤
Thats exactly what I said! First thing that hit my mind!
This truly heartbreaking for their family!! 💔😢 Very traumatic too!!
You work your entire life to have some animal ….
Animals aren't capable of this kind of evil. Only humans are.
Please don't insult animals.
@@tshaffer9681 how do animals eat !? You haven’t seen a lion stalk her prey !
@@cattinkerbell4946 we are animals…what separates us ! Two things … lol !
@@tshaffer9681 Animals don’t have our thinking brain and YOU think I’m insulting them! Lmfao !!
Did he just say that America has the best judicial system in the world?! 😂😂😂😂😂
@Farmgoth He didn't say it was perfect. Ask Amanda Knox or anyone from the states who has been accused of a crime in a foreign country.
@@lisas8244 Ask Julian Assange or OJ Simpson. The thing's a joke.
Don't forget tot mom Casey Anthony 😡🤬😤🙁
@@aprilmcgrawAlso don't forget, America has BY FAR the highest incarceration rate on the planet. That's not a good thing.
@@Farmgoth flukes
It will be like a five star hotel for them being in an American prison! Leave them where they sre!
They’d be lucky if the family does not exercise ‘ prairie justice’ on them. I’d have a hard time holding myself back
What’s the evidence they have on the 3 dudes ???
Demons on the earth.
If they are demons Caucasian people are worse than demons
God created Satan from Lucifer, who rebelled against Him…. Who is the father of the ‘father of lies’? God created demons too… He knit babies in their mother’s wombs…. All this evil is just a contest between God and Satan….people are just caught up in the middle. Sinner need to repent…but it’s to be saved from the wrath of God~~ the ultimate
1:54 lol “the ocean is a pretty big place.” It’s quite literally THE biggest place.
Arrested before on a violent robbery case but bailed out for peanuts to kill and rob again ? The judges that keep bailing these monsters need to explain themselves
they was not on bailed they escape from prison. and did that ,it is very sad, that happened, we as Grenadines are very sorry, but we are not bad people, it's just a few.
@@annalexander1462 But, it's the same everywhere, a very particular lot... a few out of every hundred around the world is still many millions.
Were is the evidence that they did the murder
@@MKYW_Tvshut up
Even worse that you cannot bring guns with you into other countries' waters cause they all have crap gun laws. Criminals will start targeting yachts now. They know they are defenseless.
@@DaisyDay.-gm5ib I guess
When he said "most boaters are armed at sea" ..I knew right then that he was BSing about how much he actually knows about yachts and yachting.
This is so sad and heartbreaking. Those Murderers are Beyond Evil! May this Couple rest in peace and Deep Condolences to their family and loved ones. 😢💔🕊️🙏🕊️💔💐
For the record, they were not docked in a marina. They were anchored off a beach. Also, hard to see why they would be extradited to the US for a crime committed by Grenadians in Grenada. No precedent there as far as I know.
Thanks for that response, as a sailor I have been trying to figure this one out but have not found this information. Was this published somewhere. I think if they were secure in the cabin this would not have happened, I know that if my sailboat companion way is locked then there is not way to access the boat unless you want to cut through 2 inches of fiber glass.
Depends if it was in international waters... and where the boat was registered. Maritime law is complex.
@@ejdd3442 From AIS data for the yacht, it appears that Simplicity was anchored off Grand Anse beach in Grenadian waters from 11th Feb to 18th Feb. It then moved north to St Vincent, arriving St Vincent on the 19th Feb.
@@yuditilany It was boarded and stolen in Grenadian waters (when anchored off Grand Anse beach), and then taken north to St Vincent. Unlikely that it spent any time in international waters.
Just horrible.
How sad for them and their families 😢 what monsters
Suspects. What a surprise. Not.
Same problem everywhere.
This maritime attorney states the American court system is the best in the world....lol.....Please....lol. What arrogance.
This mouthpiece is a wack job
Wow. Nice prior charges. Smfh
Same thing happened to a couple from Columbus, Ohio several years ago. They had owned Engine House # 12 restaurant in German Village.
What was there names? I’m in Ohio. Like to check it out
Crazy story very sad
im so so sorry for the family
I agree with you here my friend
Omg this is so f*king sad... what a horrific end... 😢💔🙏
This is so very sad, worked all their life enjoying their life & this happens my thoughts are with their family 🥲
I cannot believe this man just said with his chest “the American court systems are the best in the world” LIKE WHAT 🤣🤣
Prayers for the family. 🌸🙏🏻
If you are carrying firearm(s) on your boat and you enter a foreign country, isnt it true you have to declare your firearms and surrender them to the proper authority?
“American court system is the best in the world”😂😂😂
Gosh, I'm just so sorry for them and their family. God bless you. Devastating
Pretty typical behavior from them. Why is anyone surprised
Gentlemen!!!!!!! PLEASE that's stretching it to call these three gentlemen, individuals, criminals would be more apt but they have yet to be tried
The usual suspects
Usual suspects
Yep
They’re the worst
No words 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Terrible tragedy! 💯😪
It’s sad that people are gonna literally have to get hurt before everyone starts to realize we’re not all the same. There are groups of people who are almost 100 times more likely to hurt you or SA you. The last 50 years has been about conditioning people to believe their natural survival instincts are wrong and we’re terrible people if we follow them.
It's true. They teach women to be kind and gentle and now feminizing men
Exactly 💯 trying to teach us not to judge a book by its cover, or don't follow your gut, or try to get to know them first has hindered our natural human instinct , we shouldn't feel guilty for knowing better and following our God instinct
Hahaha to all the people who don't get it
@@Plutogalaxyok mickey mouse
Why wouldn’t this couple have some protection!!!
Dont they watch news reports about sea pirates its always all over the news reports…?
Guns are prohibited in some countries on water due to their individual maritime laws so some people don't carry them on boats bc it's a major hassle if you get caught with one
Geography’s not your strong point eh? The pirate issues are frequently occurring halfway around the world from the Carib. This type of issue is pretty rare here.
So heartbreaking 💔
My deepest condolences to the families and friends.🙏🙏
How many times does "wiggleman" need to remind us he's a lawyer? I still remember bro from when you said it 5 seconds ago🤣🤣🤣
This makes me sick, those 3 men will answer to God Himself soon. May God give the family of the two who were murdered, peace and comfort.
Too much suspicious crime happens at sea all the time. May they rest in peace. Super scary.
The crime was not committed in the United States, so how could they be charged in the states.
For those who are complaining about the attorneys "polite" language as a lawyer he has been trained, and is basically required by his profession, to be impartially objective in his demeanor so to be most effective in his analysis and presentation.
What’s wrong with just referring to them as ‘men’ not gentlemen which is a sick parody?!
Sounds alot like the case of Tom and Jackie Hawks! Demons everywhere!
Seek help. You're hallucinating.
This made me think of that. The hawk story hurt my soul. So sad
@@terpynews5458 Indeed!
@@wolfe6220 🤡
Pattern recognition
So sorry for this family.
So sad. 😢
So sick
Upstanding young men- they look like nice, intelligent gentlemen...... 🙄 *SMH*
Horrific ending 😢 so sad. Glad they were caught
This is so sad and reminds me of the Tom and Jackie hawk story
Guess you have to take Scott Adam's advice to heart at sea.
"..as soon as I read it I was heartbroken, being a native Miamian and familiar with the yachting industry.."😂😂
✅ Qualifed empathy
Usual suspects.
The crimnals got out of jail at the South Grenada Police Station because the lock on the cell door was broken and no one fixed it. All they had to do then was to walk across a small road to the beach and make their getaway and kill the yacht owners. They have admitted to this but excess force might have been used. Yachties here sleep with their boats open for the breeze which is beyond foolish but it does happen all the time
4:14 😂😂 The American Court System Is A Joke
Where was his gun ?
Or asleep?
No.... with a gun they risk of losing their 400K sailboat and going to Jail. In these countries guns are prohibitive.
@@ejdd3442….they lost their lives by not being armed!
If the roles were reversed, this would be news 24/7 on CNN
It’s always them.
Who's them
These 3 took control of the yacht in a marina at the docks. Few yachts carry weapons. Few countries allow them to be brought into their waters. The ones who do require rediculous things like they have to be locked up and inaccessible. Marinas are generally safer than being anchored alone. Have been many reports of thefts at anchor recently. They have been extradited back to Grenada. They left marina in early morning. This guy is not an expert by any means. Old story from a few weeks ago.
Nah… leave them in Granada. U.S. will just release them a few years after conviction.
"The oceans a pretty big place".... yeah, nearly 75% of the planets surface...
What are the new details ?
What do you mean, escaped from prison? From where? This is unacceptable.
So sad for the family.
Try them in Florida...they have the DP
Tom and Jackie Hawkes story 2.0. One of first Dateline stories i think ive ever scene was their story and murder and to this day it has to be one of nost diabolical and deceiving,coniving stories ive ever heard in true crime. Just horrible way to go. If your interested look it up im sure its still on TH-cam but you have been warned. Extremely sad story.
I would take security with me like they know all this happening
That's why people cross streets... and CC.
Gentleman? What is this guy thinking?
Why would they be extradited to the US when the crime didn’t occur on US soil?!?
This is horrific ! I can’t even hear the details - rips my heart out! So sad!! 😭
Oh it is those people again
they have footage of them on the boat???
dangerous place that garnada
Just terrible ❤
Law&Crime will air live the trial?
Oh my god, that water is filled with….
Sharks…..
I started to watch then I remembered the lying title on one of your other videos and realized that I don’t trust what you say is true.
Exactly , new details , assumptions by them ..
I hate everything about this awful event. But thank god the monsters are caught. I mean it.
US Flagged vessel? 🇺🇸 Then bring the pirates to a southern state or Gitmo. I bet this story is a million times worse than what's been reported, if you think about it.
So sad 😭 RIP please let there be justice!
Most boaters sailing the in the Carib are actually not "armed at sea" like this guy suggests.
what is a maritime attorney?
Future engineers, lawyers, doctors and scientists.
My heart goes out to these folks and their family. This guy referring to the suspects as ‘gentleman’ threw me for a loop!
The boat was anchored, not in a marina. His comment about the Bahamas being dangerous was BS unless in Nassau. There are over 1200 islands in the Bahamas most of which are very safe. I have been sailing there for over 40 years without incident but I am very careful if I have to go to Nassau for any reason.
Grenada is a very popular spot for cruising sailboats and generally pretty safe.
So unbelievably sad that this happened 💙