All those NIKE ads were 🔥! I went to the Gotham FC game (first half) then headed to Liberty game. Saw Pinoe twice lol. Thank you ladies for continuing to raise the bar!
I must thank Stacey Abrams who totally changed my thoughts and mind about trans kids and trans athletes who are having such an awful time in finding a place where they belong. Including in sports. I am an ex LPGA player and lesbian and was struggling with how I felt. I am an even more enthusiastic Stacey fan and can’t wait to listen to her podcast. You guys are fabulous. Thank you.
These ladies are good. Really logical and experience based commentary on game 5 and not the typical “the game was rigged!” stuff. I think the big takeaway is to be extremely careful when calling a light foul (that wasn’t even a foul) at the end of a title deciding game. You can’t allow super physical play for 39 minutes and 55 seconds and then at the end you call a “foul” that wasn’t really called the rest of the game. Illegal blocking position? Come on, that’s never called even in a normal game. It’s almost as if they were looking for a reason to call a foul to potentially tie the game and send it to overtime. I’m not saying that’s what happened but it’s how it appears to the casual observer. But anyway, congrats to the Liberty. They were the better team all season and if the WNBA was played like the EPL (soccer) then they would have won the title anyway.
Folks focusing on game 5, and seem to forget game 4. Deciding foul call on a very questionable box out by Ionescu. In this case, the game was tied, so the foul call gave the Lynx a chance to win. That game, NYL fouls were double that of the Lynx, and Stewie was called for just breathing on Collier. So, if you don't have issues with game 4, you can't have issue with Game 5.
I really enjoy Natisha Hiedeman. I think her last name may have been mispronounced in this episode. No L in it. Just wanted to give her another shout out for a great season! Enjoying the podcast!
The moment 5 seconds left , missed call Stevie travel no call , smith didn’t foul , but it was called foul 2 points Lynx ahead and foul was called 😳 MVP are the referees !!
Bad calls are par for the course. Great teams don’t let it get to them and play on. The Lynx let it get to them in OT and that’s on them. Clearly Cheryl let it get to her and went scorched earth at the post game interview which is par for the course for her. However, using the word “stolen” gave off J6 vibes and crossed the line. That kind of incendiary language encourages and even validates those who promote the hate and death threats that were pervasive all season long. As someone in a leadership position like Cheryl, words matter and have consequences. The “stolen championship” narrative is still circulating on day 3 after the final game. So shame on her.
First love you both so much!!! Love the pod! About game 5...Thing is call it fair... this wasn't called fair. And to be clear neither team is my team (Storm fan period). I just could see how things were called on the Lynx and the same foul not called on NY... saw it over and over and over. Were it felt egregious.
NWSL (and WNBA!) fan in Boston here - too many balls is gone but not forgotten, and I’m still hoping they’ll change the team name. hopefully sooner rather than later. agree with Pinoe that the colors can stay. other than that, I’m down for a hard reset. fans, players, staff all deserve way better than this.
Travels don't get called in 2024. Also, McBride hit Stewie as well as the ball which led to the ball being fumbled and the travel. It doesn't matter because it's 2024. Caitlin Clark travels when the game is on the line, and nothing is called. It's just how it is these days. It's just one play. The Lynx had an entire overtime to make up for the play. At least they had a chance to recover from that. But the whining and conspiracy theories is going too far. People act like the Liberty didn't earn the ring as if they didn't play hard all season just like the Lynx. This has been the whiniest season in the history of sports as far as I can tell.
exactly this has gone far enough Half of them arent WNBA fans but they only watch it when its caitlin clark and controversies I should know I was there at the home games at barclays center and yes there were bad calls on either side but at the end of the day they gotta handle their business on the court and win what is at stake Both teams made it this far and I know they got to be tired Don't get me wrong about the Lynx they had a amazing season so far they went number 2 overall and gotta give credit to napheesa collier her flowers she is an amazing player but at the of the day the New York Liberty came back from redemption and broke the curse and won their first championship Now the question is next year can they go back to back champions like the aces did Let the Liberty enjoy there moment That's all I have to say
Liberty were the better team all season. There is no denying that. I agree players travel too much but as long as it’s consistently called or not called and they don’t abuse it too much it doesn’t really hurt anything. My only gripe is that last foul call could have easily been a no call and that wouldn’t be egregious considering how physical the entire game was, what game it was and the fact that it was almost over. But that’s how the game goes sometimes. The truth is Phee missed a layup just before that final foul was called in regulation. If she had made it, this call would not have even mattered. You have to make those bunnies in big games.
Game 4 was stolen, they clearly wanted a game 5, so if we talk about that last call then let’s talk about NY losing game 4 to the refs, at least this one went to OT
I do agree something like a VAR could be really useful moving forward (in every pro sports league). What’s really cool about NYC right now is that, women’s pro sports is paving the way with their championships in the past decade in comparison to the men’s championships if I’m not mistaken? Gotham last yr in the NWSL then Liberty this year, they are doin the damn thing. ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 congratulations!!!
I just watched one second of this epi but at Game 5 (and I’m just getting into the team after 20 years of WoSo NT) I said to my friend: Is Ionescu supposed to be the point guard bc I’ve never seen as ineffective a point guard. No point turns their to traffic that they’re supposed to direct and they always dribble they their legs and she does not do that. She said yes she’s the point guard and I so no not possible so I asked my friends friend and she said it was Vandersleuth but she was injured. But don’t you have a second team of all positions on the bench. IDK I haven’t watched bball in so long that I said: what why is not 1-and-1 on that foul? And was informed of the change. At Game 1, the only thing I remembered from a year of JV like 30 years ago that I was screaming in the waning moments was: get a layup! lol i know it cooler to get net but don’t you wanna win and there’s no one to dunk in place of easy 2-point shots.
Sorry the sue bird i know your bias but cheryl reeve have the right to be upset because her team play the right way they deserve better, i am not saying new your does not they are a good team. But that 5 seconds left in the regulation its the turning point of the game. Sabrina and stewie had a worst shooting night. They cant buy the basket. But kudus to sabally she step up. Saying that is sports is the only way you can covered up the ref lowkey cheated for the new york. Smith was being hooked push grabbed, hold and hacked by jj they dont call foul ,napheesa collier the FMVP take stewart to school who have 18 points in the paint recieving a lot of contact did not recieve any single free throw? I am not taking away from new york but that 5 seconds in regulation change the game if You are player in minnesota who is in the environment like that when all you had each other that called chip on the line will cost your team diflated. Just damian lillard said the refs already know their assignment in second half. Anyway i just checked already on the books this wnba finals already marks their the two liberty star are both struggle poor shooting night, it marks also their the travel of stewie ,the no called foul from smith. The stolen comment of cheryl reeve, lebron quote thats not a foul let the dam player decide the game. Thomas refs lowkey cheated for new york, i get it. And damian lillard the refs know their assignment in second half. And lastly this game 5 will be forever have stain in what could be the greatest finals in wnba.😊 Anyway napheesa collier the Mvp said that game was injust and she is 1000 correct New york cant beat her they need ref to stop a flat beast monster
I love sue bird and I support Donald Trump. I agree with her on her take on basketball but not in politics. I still love her though. I wish we could accept each other despite our political differences. We can always find common ground.
So 25 free throws to 8 in favor of the liberty & napheesa collier not get 1 free throw in the whole game is just sports?! Breanna taking 6 steps and the foul against Smith is just sports? Sue stop the damn lies everyone saw the refs favoring the liberty without question. Then brainless Cathy engelbert wearing the NY skyline dress said it all. Wish I would've seen the lynx win just to see her brain dead self hand the trophy to them with that outfit. Stop the gas lighting please we all saw who they really were told who to call fouls against and who not to put on the foul line
The league got the result they wanted. Just be happy. Didn’t you see the cute photo of the Statue of Liberty with a giant ring on it? There’s nothing to see here, it was a fair game and just a coincidence that one team just happened to get 25 free throws at a home game 5 of the final while commissioner Cathy Englebert watched in her stunning NYC Skyline dress. These things just happen sometimes.
Something tells me the refs might get caught up in the whole "make up for it" game. One coach complains heavily, and the next game they make up for it. In game 4, free throws were like 20-8 in favor of the Lynx. Game 5, it went like 25-9 in New Yorks favor. I find that just odd. Idk. It was nice seeing overlooked players step up with that energy.
I’m definitely a Sue with flour tortillas. Actually I love whole wheat tortillas. They are a healthier option for flour tortillas because they are made from whole grains and have more fiber. Breakfast tacos are the best .. 🌮👎
It was like 25 vs 8 free throws nobody can tell me the refs where fair and didnt want the liberty to win. Phee got fault more than once and got 0 free throws
She gets death threats every day for supporting black people in her own country during her professional career, maybe she’s sacrificed enough for marginalized people imo. The honor of her nobility won’t be respected in her lifetime unfortunately. She’s taken plenty of bulletd for progressive causes.
You talk about all the fouls in the game and how rough it was, but you threw the poodle in the ocean. The refugees call foul in the last five seconds of the game, that changes the outcome by the referees. Poodle in the ocean…..
NO POINT Gods for sure. Sabs may have been ragging and William's quest for the Birkin bag of tricks fell to level of a poly Target bag the last game. Sabrina got her ring but Courtney outplayed her for the series IMO. Feel sorry for both of them cause they treated us to 4 very good games. CC of course is the newly crowned Point God. What's the scoop Sue, is she gonna do anything with the Rival League this year?
Delusional Sue Bird if you think that the Stewie travel/foul/ & free throw disparity did not cost Lynx game really. I agree biggest takeaway is fix officiating in WNBA to be professional.
there shouldn’t have even been a game 5. idk why all y’all screaming bout the lynx winning choose to ignore game 4. and the game started at 0-0 in overtime. they still could’ve won. y’all mad annoying bruh
If you want men to play in womens sports, then you can just cancel all women leagues and let everybody on earth compete in the same leagues. If that rules would have been there 20 years ago nobody would know who you both are as women athletes who are among the best women off all time because men would take all the top spots.
Do you guys think that a 7 game finals series might be too much basketball for the women. They looked so exhausted and the game was really sloppy. I saw Courtney Williams give an exit interview and the reporter asked her if she’d be happy about it being 7 games? She’d could barely answer the question without complaining about how tired she was.
They should get more rest and recovery days in between during the season and during playoffs. It’s cruel already with the 40 game schedule and play off series where teams have to play every other day or have back to backs in season. Travel days should not count as rest or recovery. Athletes are going to get career ending injuries or have to retire early at this rate.
Do you guys think that a 7 game finals series might be too much basketball for the women. They looked so exhausted and the game was really sloppy. I saw Courtney Williams give an exit interview and the reporter asked her if she’d be happy about it being 7 games? She’d could barely answer the question without complaining about how tired she was.
Yes, add the VAR. However, the reffing was inconsistent in all the games and Lynx benefited as often as not, so Cheryl shouldn’t be complaining.
Bad calls happen in every game. This was in the last 5 seconds of game five and they REVIEWED it.
@@brandonsleep9156 Are you talking about Game 4? When Ionescu "fouled" Carlton, on a tied game? I didn't think that one was reviewed.
All those NIKE ads were 🔥!
I went to the Gotham FC game (first half) then headed to Liberty game. Saw Pinoe twice lol. Thank you ladies for continuing to raise the bar!
Stacey Abrams, wow!!! Thanks girls!
I must thank Stacey Abrams who totally changed my thoughts and mind about trans kids and trans athletes who are having such an awful time in finding a place where they belong. Including in sports. I am an ex LPGA player and lesbian and was struggling with how I felt. I am an even more enthusiastic Stacey fan and can’t wait to listen to her podcast. You guys are fabulous. Thank you.
I said the same thing Sue said about both teams. They needed point guards.
These ladies are good. Really logical and experience based commentary on game 5 and not the typical “the game was rigged!” stuff. I think the big takeaway is to be extremely careful when calling a light foul (that wasn’t even a foul) at the end of a title deciding game.
You can’t allow super physical play for 39 minutes and 55 seconds and then at the end you call a “foul” that wasn’t really called the rest of the game. Illegal blocking position? Come on, that’s never called even in a normal game. It’s almost as if they were looking for a reason to call a foul to potentially tie the game and send it to overtime. I’m not saying that’s what happened but it’s how it appears to the casual observer.
But anyway, congrats to the Liberty. They were the better team all season and if the WNBA was played like the EPL (soccer) then they would have won the title anyway.
Wow, I could not love Stacey Abrams more. Thanks for having her.
Wonderful show ladies. I love Abrams. She's always so educational. And thank you for the Kelsey Mitchell shout-out. I agree 👍🏼💯
Had to go rewatch the 2001 Big East championship after this episode. What a classic! Clutch for days… “stick it when ya need it.”
DEI interconnectness💥Thank you Stacey Abrams
GA proud listening to Stacy Abrams.
Ok, Megan's glasses are everything, What brand???
Folks focusing on game 5, and seem to forget game 4. Deciding foul call on a very questionable box out by Ionescu. In this case, the game was tied, so the foul call gave the Lynx a chance to win. That game, NYL fouls were double that of the Lynx, and Stewie was called for just breathing on Collier. So, if you don't have issues with game 4, you can't have issue with Game 5.
stacey abrams is amazing!!
I really enjoy Natisha Hiedeman. I think her last name may have been mispronounced in this episode. No L in it. Just wanted to give her another shout out for a great season! Enjoying the podcast!
The moment 5 seconds left , missed call Stevie travel no call , smith didn’t foul , but it was called foul 2 points Lynx ahead and foul was called 😳 MVP are the referees !!
Lady Sports, Lady Stacey ~ double luv!
Thanks for the balancing, insightful, enriching minutes 👐💛🙌🏆💞🗽💙🗳️ 💚 🗳️ 💫
Bad calls are par for the course. Great teams don’t let it get to them and play on. The Lynx let it get to them in OT and that’s on them. Clearly Cheryl let it get to her and went scorched earth at the post game interview which is par for the course for her. However, using the word “stolen” gave off J6 vibes and crossed the line. That kind of incendiary language encourages and even validates those who promote the hate and death threats that were pervasive all season long. As someone in a leadership position like Cheryl, words matter and have consequences. The “stolen championship” narrative is still circulating on day 3 after the final game. So shame on her.
First love you both so much!!! Love the pod! About game 5...Thing is call it fair... this wasn't called fair. And to be clear neither team is my team (Storm fan period). I just could see how things were called on the Lynx and the same foul not called on NY... saw it over and over and over. Were it felt egregious.
Please discuss why it’s okay to have games every other day! Shouldn’t we really have game, day of day off, game, day off, travel, game, etc.?
So call game 4 fair, right?!
NWSL (and WNBA!) fan in Boston here - too many balls is gone but not forgotten, and I’m still hoping they’ll change the team name. hopefully sooner rather than later. agree with Pinoe that the colors can stay. other than that, I’m down for a hard reset. fans, players, staff all deserve way better than this.
BOS Nation can stay as long as the Chicago RED Stars cancel their rebrand plans.
Love Stacey Abrams!
Travels don't get called in 2024. Also, McBride hit Stewie as well as the ball which led to the ball being fumbled and the travel. It doesn't matter because it's 2024. Caitlin Clark travels when the game is on the line, and nothing is called. It's just how it is these days.
It's just one play. The Lynx had an entire overtime to make up for the play. At least they had a chance to recover from that.
But the whining and conspiracy theories is going too far. People act like the Liberty didn't earn the ring as if they didn't play hard all season just like the Lynx. This has been the whiniest season in the history of sports as far as I can tell.
exactly this has gone far enough
Half of them arent WNBA fans but they only watch it when its caitlin clark and controversies
I should know I was there at the home games at barclays center and yes there were bad calls on either side but at the end of the day they gotta handle their business on the court and win what is at stake
Both teams made it this far and I know they got to be tired
Don't get me wrong about the Lynx they had a amazing season so far they went number 2 overall and gotta give credit to napheesa collier her flowers she is an amazing player but at the of the day the New York Liberty came back from redemption and broke the curse and won their first championship
Now the question is next year can they go back to back champions like the aces did
Let the Liberty enjoy there moment
That's all I have to say
If the Lynx wanted to win, they should've maintained their 12 point lead for the rest of the game.
Liberty were the better team all season. There is no denying that. I agree players travel too much but as long as it’s consistently called or not called and they don’t abuse it too much it doesn’t really hurt anything.
My only gripe is that last foul call could have easily been a no call and that wouldn’t be egregious considering how physical the entire game was, what game it was and the fact that it was almost over. But that’s how the game goes sometimes.
The truth is Phee missed a layup just before that final foul was called in regulation. If she had made it, this call would not have even mattered. You have to make those bunnies in big games.
Agreed. Travels happened all over. Additionally, too many folks saying something about Game 5 were quiet after Game 4.
Game 4 was stolen, they clearly wanted a game 5, so if we talk about that last call then let’s talk about NY losing game 4 to the refs, at least this one went to OT
Haha, Megan SHARE!!!
I do agree something like a VAR could be really useful moving forward (in every pro sports league). What’s really cool about NYC right now is that, women’s pro sports is paving the way with their championships in the past decade in comparison to the men’s championships if I’m not mistaken? Gotham last yr in the NWSL then Liberty this year, they are doin the damn thing. ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 congratulations!!!
I just watched one second of this epi but at Game 5 (and I’m just getting into the team after 20 years of WoSo NT) I said to my friend: Is Ionescu supposed to be the point guard bc I’ve never seen as ineffective a point guard. No point turns their to traffic that they’re supposed to direct and they always dribble they their legs and she does not do that. She said yes she’s the point guard and I so no not possible so I asked my friends friend and she said it was Vandersleuth but she was injured. But don’t you have a second team of all positions on the bench. IDK I haven’t watched bball in so long that I said: what why is not 1-and-1 on that foul? And was informed of the change.
At Game 1, the only thing I remembered from a year of JV like 30 years ago that I was screaming in the waning moments was: get a layup! lol i know it cooler to get net but don’t you wanna win and there’s no one to dunk in place of easy 2-point shots.
Sabrina just had a bad game. It happens to the best players. It was just terrible timing for her. She’s a lot better than she showed in game 5.
@@ericMTsabrina isn’t a PG tho even if she wants to… she is better at shooting guard
MR has spunk. She's knows how to troll a bit...tehe. Love it.
Sorry the sue bird i know your bias but cheryl reeve have the right to be upset because her team play the right way they deserve better, i am not saying new your does not they are a good team. But that 5 seconds left in the regulation its the turning point of the game. Sabrina and stewie had a worst shooting night. They cant buy the basket. But kudus to sabally she step up. Saying that is sports is the only way you can covered up the ref lowkey cheated for the new york. Smith was being hooked push grabbed, hold and hacked by jj they dont call foul ,napheesa collier the FMVP take stewart to school who have 18 points in the paint recieving a lot of contact did not recieve any single free throw? I am not taking away from new york but that 5 seconds in regulation change the game if You are player in minnesota who is in the environment like that when all you had each other that called chip on the line will cost your team diflated. Just damian lillard said the refs already know their assignment in second half. Anyway i just checked already on the books this wnba finals already marks their the two liberty star are both struggle poor shooting night, it marks also their the travel of stewie ,the no called foul from smith. The stolen comment of cheryl reeve, lebron quote thats not a foul let the dam player decide the game. Thomas refs lowkey cheated for new york, i get it. And damian lillard the refs know their assignment in second half. And lastly this game 5 will be forever have stain in what could be the greatest finals in wnba.😊 Anyway napheesa collier the Mvp said that game was injust and she is 1000 correct New york cant beat her they need ref to stop a flat beast monster
I was really to get a better take than "oh well, that's sports and my team won, lul". Then to call anyone disagreeing a troll was a choice.
Liberty won in 4 of this is the clownery the losers wanna pull
Jerky is always good, but I prefer trail mix on planes. 😁
I love sue bird and I support Donald Trump.
I agree with her on her take on basketball but not in politics. I still love her though.
I wish we could accept each other despite our political differences.
We can always find common ground.
So 25 free throws to 8 in favor of the liberty & napheesa collier not get 1 free throw in the whole game is just sports?! Breanna taking 6 steps and the foul against Smith is just sports? Sue stop the damn lies everyone saw the refs favoring the liberty without question. Then brainless Cathy engelbert wearing the NY skyline dress said it all. Wish I would've seen the lynx win just to see her brain dead self hand the trophy to them with that outfit. Stop the gas lighting please we all saw who they really were told who to call fouls against and who not to put on the foul line
The league got the result they wanted. Just be happy. Didn’t you see the cute photo of the Statue of Liberty with a giant ring on it? There’s nothing to see here, it was a fair game and just a coincidence that one team just happened to get 25 free throws at a home game 5 of the final while commissioner Cathy Englebert watched in her stunning NYC Skyline dress. These things just happen sometimes.
SIX STEPS ?
Every day that goes by y’all increase the number of steps Bri traveled 😂😂😂
NY in 4 💍
So disappointed by Sue Bird bias, she used to be my idol 😢
And that is why the Liberty should have taken Nika with the 9th pick, still missing future PG, however, can't complain too much about the end result!
I just wanna take Megan to a casino & see her gamble in a high-stakes Poker Game! ♥️♣️♦️♠️😍
Need timestamps for the different segments. While I love Bird's podcast style, I really don't care about bball.
Something tells me the refs might get caught up in the whole "make up for it" game. One coach complains heavily, and the next game they make up for it.
In game 4, free throws were like 20-8 in favor of the Lynx. Game 5, it went like 25-9 in New Yorks favor.
I find that just odd. Idk. It was nice seeing overlooked players step up with that energy.
I’m definitely a Sue with flour tortillas. Actually I love whole wheat tortillas. They are a healthier option for flour tortillas because they are made from whole grains and have more fiber. Breakfast tacos are the best .. 🌮👎
It was like 25 vs 8 free throws nobody can tell me the refs where fair and didnt want the liberty to win. Phee got fault more than once and got 0 free throws
@weinhereeeee9271 The refs didn't help the Liberty for decades. Why would they start now?
@@darrel7589bc their owners are billionaires now 🙂↕️
Refs got the assignment
Silly conspiracy theory.
Absolutely!
Raven Johnson is the last traditional PG left and gets no love
I am super disappointed that Megan hasn't spoken up for Palestine.
oh shut up. you go talk about it on your platforms.
She gets death threats every day for supporting black people in her own country during her professional career, maybe she’s sacrificed enough for marginalized people imo. The honor of her nobility won’t be respected in her lifetime unfortunately. She’s taken plenty of bulletd for progressive causes.
You talk about all the fouls in the game and how rough it was, but you threw the poodle in the ocean. The refugees call foul in the last five seconds of the game, that changes the outcome by the referees. Poodle in the ocean…..
Refs did it to NY in game 4 with 2 seconds left on the clock and a tied game.
NO POINT Gods for sure. Sabs may have been ragging and William's quest for the Birkin bag of tricks fell to level of a poly Target bag the last game. Sabrina got her ring but Courtney outplayed her for the series IMO. Feel sorry for both of them cause they treated us to 4 very good games. CC of course is the newly crowned Point God. What's the scoop Sue, is she gonna do anything with the Rival League this year?
Delusional Sue Bird if you think that the Stewie travel/foul/ & free throw disparity did not cost Lynx game really. I agree biggest takeaway is fix officiating in WNBA to be professional.
there shouldn’t have even been a game 5. idk why all y’all screaming bout the lynx winning choose to ignore game 4. and the game started at 0-0 in overtime. they still could’ve won. y’all mad annoying bruh
beef jerky is gross... #govegan
Sue we are gonna boo you in Seattle now 😭 (I’m jk but idk tho haha )
She’s still team Storm before anything else, so give her some grace lol
Never boo Sue. That’s my policy.
Also she was born in New York. She gets a pass.
Please tell the truth. It was a fix and a terrible game... REFS won this one..
Truth is: Liberty won, game 4 or 5, you pick. But the Liberty won, period.
If you want men to play in womens sports, then you can just cancel all women leagues and let everybody on earth compete in the same leagues. If that rules would have been there 20 years ago nobody would know who you both are as women athletes who are among the best women off all time because men would take all the top spots.
Ok incel 😂
Do you guys think that a 7 game finals series might be too much basketball for the women. They looked so exhausted and the game was really sloppy.
I saw Courtney Williams give an exit interview and the reporter asked her if she’d be happy about it being 7 games? She’d could barely answer the question without complaining about how tired she was.
@@jazzyjasism I think so
They should get more rest and recovery days in between during the season and during playoffs. It’s cruel already with the 40 game schedule and play off series where teams have to play every other day or have back to backs in season. Travel days should not count as rest or recovery. Athletes are going to get career ending injuries or have to retire early at this rate.
@@1in8Thrive46 games next season.
The Liberty were nervous, the Crynx looked exhausted
Do you guys think that a 7 game finals series might be too much basketball for the women. They looked so exhausted and the game was really sloppy.
I saw Courtney Williams give an exit interview and the reporter asked her if she’d be happy about it being 7 games? She’d could barely answer the question without complaining about how tired she was.