The Ghost Train that Saved Lives - NMBS type 12 "De Spooktrein"

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  • In today's video, we take a look at a ghost train, the war and one of the most annoying days a German soldier has ever had.
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ความคิดเห็น • 138

  • @TrainFactGuy
    @TrainFactGuy  วันที่ผ่านมา +271

    Delaying trains to save lives is all well and good, but could someone tell Northern Rail that the war is over and that they don't need to delay *every* service?

    • @khuhruzhsvethmeorv8318
      @khuhruzhsvethmeorv8318 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      REAL

    • @terrier_productions
      @terrier_productions วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I would but EMR is my local operator!

    • @ChimpManZ1264
      @ChimpManZ1264 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Shots fired! 😂

    • @jacobcave1587
      @jacobcave1587 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Bloody hell 😂

    • @erikziak1249
      @erikziak1249 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      All jokes aside, there were many atrocities the railway was used for. This story is funny, because it has a happy ending. But most stories do not share this.

  • @khuhruzhsvethmeorv8318
    @khuhruzhsvethmeorv8318 วันที่ผ่านมา +238

    This needs a film making about it, it's comedy gold. What legends

    • @ConstantlyDamaged
      @ConstantlyDamaged วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      The issue is the only actor/director who could possibly do this justice, Buster Keaton, is no longer with us.

    • @gfdx3214
      @gfdx3214 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      I havent seen it in a long while, but there’s a movie called “The train” with a similar premise, though with a train full of stolen french art

    • @robertwilloughby8050
      @robertwilloughby8050 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@ConstantlyDamagedEither of the Andersons' perhaps? It seems that this would be up their street.

    • @ConstantlyDamaged
      @ConstantlyDamaged วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robertwilloughby8050 I was referencing probably the greatest stuntman and actor willing to work with trains that ever existed. For an example of his stuff, look up "Buster Keaton The General" and prepare to be stunned.

    • @ShukakuTheCrazy1
      @ShukakuTheCrazy1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Id like to see a thomas parody of this, honestly

  • @Racist_Railfan_Productions
    @Racist_Railfan_Productions วันที่ผ่านมา +120

    As gruesome and bloody as WWII was, you gotta admit these stories of railway sabotage are a lot of fun.

    • @cudwieser3952
      @cudwieser3952 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Got to love the arrogantly Ignorant being played for the patsies they were.

    • @Railhog2102
      @Railhog2102 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same especially when these stories were depicted in movies and especially games like Medal Of Honor and the early Call Of Duty series

  • @tjmfarming9584
    @tjmfarming9584 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    This story sounds like it'd make a brilliant comedy film!
    I bet if trains with smiley faces were a real thing, no doubt the engines themselves involved would have joined in the confusion and delay.

    • @drampadude9216
      @drampadude9216 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Oh I can only imagine the confusion and delay a simple face with a personality could cause ;)

    • @aaronhill8315
      @aaronhill8315 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      *pops fingers* and now a selection from the Rev. W. Awdry *starts playing the first season opening of Thomas and Friends*

    • @brandongaines1731
      @brandongaines1731 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      God bless the Good Reverend for giving us Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends ❤

  • @DragonStar524
    @DragonStar524 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    Talk about massive "confusion and delay"
    This is comedy gold!

  • @Parakeet-pk6dl
    @Parakeet-pk6dl วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    I’m myself working for NMBS for quite some years now, and I can honestly say that sabotage is still a part of our daily operations. The only difference is that this time, the sabotage is coming from management levels instead of operational levels and due to ignorance instead of skill.

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not only the NMBS, Managment is just a neat name for FUBAR for everybody who does the actual work !

  • @StationFilms12345
    @StationFilms12345 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    This story should be a movie of how comically stupid it is 😂

    • @VT29steamtrain
      @VT29steamtrain วันที่ผ่านมา

      Would be a great movie

  • @gamerfan8445
    @gamerfan8445 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    This needs a 3/4 episodes on it.

  • @nielsleenknegt5839
    @nielsleenknegt5839 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I'm from Belgium, and if one thing I did think we were good at before, I now know for certain. We are the world champions at coordinating plots to create confusion and delays.

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The creativeness of the railways men to frustrate the movement of the train to the east is epic, they did so by risking their lives.
    Their own security would have been the knowledge by the guards that they wouldn't have a replacement crew soon if they executed the present crew.

  • @TankEngineMedia
    @TankEngineMedia วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Never did except a ghost train to save lives, the more you know. Maybe not a literal ghost train but still

  • @flippydafox3313
    @flippydafox3313 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This needs to be a movie

  • @MatthewsBranchLine
    @MatthewsBranchLine วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Such a simple plan working so well is very satisfying. It’s like Murphy’s Law concentrated on this one train.
    Jokes aside, those men really are heroes and nice to hear that so many people joined in on the chaos.

  • @Spitfiresammons
    @Spitfiresammons วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    SS German Officers: I f**king hate ghost trains!.
    Allied prisoners: Hooray!!.

  • @seppehens8459
    @seppehens8459 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    honestly nice to see this gorgeous belgian locomotive in a vid, its very underrated and honesly huge

  • @drampadude9216
    @drampadude9216 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Im so glad i get to see the positives of all the possible delays a beautiful steamer can cause

  • @OfficialTrainzGod
    @OfficialTrainzGod วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    This is what I call “Confusion and Delay!”

  • @nathanhunsecker7235
    @nathanhunsecker7235 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This HAS to be just a Tuesday on every Class 1 😂

  • @ShadowDragon8685
    @ShadowDragon8685 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I would certainly enjoy more videos about railway shenanigans during The Sequel to The War to End All Wars.

  • @McAttack21574
    @McAttack21574 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I remember watching a documentary about this, so apparently the airmen managed to open the door and slipped in groups of 2 or 3 believing they were still surrounded by german soldiers. It’s somewhere on youtube

  • @tencents6
    @tencents6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Somewhere, The Fat Controller isn't sure whether he should be proud or triggered.

  • @TARDIS9
    @TARDIS9 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Now this is a story that I think even the Reverend Awdry would enjoy! It’s not often you hear about people being Really Useful by causing Confusion and Delay!
    Also, funnily enough, I recall seeing an engine like 12002 at the railway museum in Brussels. It was 12004, a survivor and the focus locomotive of a graphic novel (‘The Beauty’, which I have read and loved!). I take it they were classmates?

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of course they were. Clearly the same exact engine.

  • @dvdvnr
    @dvdvnr วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Brilliant video! I'd never heard of this, so many thanks for a good 10-minutes-plus of well-documented ghostly story!

  • @TheKaidynB
    @TheKaidynB วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    A day of necessary confusion and delay

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Something tells me Sir Robert Charles Norramby’s fellow soldiers in the Sodor Regiment were involved in this.

  • @Bompa1938
    @Bompa1938 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Us Belgians never make it easy on others 😂❤🇧🇪
    I love to hear story's from our railway in belgium

    • @CowMaster9001
      @CowMaster9001 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is that why the EU has their headquarters in Brussels? To spread misery to all of Europe?

  • @trevorkarran732
    @trevorkarran732 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally a video on this train. I don’t know why I like this trains I guess it’s like a sports car on rails

  • @YukariAkiyamaTanks
    @YukariAkiyamaTanks วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There is one story I remember from my childhood. Now I forgot the location of this so any input would be grand but this "ghost train" was also a prisoner train bound for Germany. It left the terminal in city only to get stopped at signal and the german soldiers on the footplate with the locomotive crew were ambushed. The train returned to the station but used the underground platforms. Like I said its been many years since I heard it so any information would be great.

  • @QuintonMurdock
    @QuintonMurdock วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Shout out to fellow good hearted railroad workers ❤

  • @EagleCondor3456
    @EagleCondor3456 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    God bless them! This was wonderful.

  • @brenlc1412
    @brenlc1412 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I want a comedy movie about this, this sounds absolutely hilarious. 😂

  • @AppalachianRailfan99
    @AppalachianRailfan99 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It also goes to show that confusion and delay can also be a good thing when needed

  • @tropicalties3806
    @tropicalties3806 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Those guards knew it was all BS. They stalked themselves on execution.

  • @dfishpool7052
    @dfishpool7052 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for this fascinating presentation - very interesting indeed.

  • @BillDunlop-b1u
    @BillDunlop-b1u 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This reminds me of a documentary I saw years ago about "soft sabotage". Many railwaymen were recruited by the resistance; this was highly effective because the German war effort on the western front ran on the railway. For example: a goodsman just had to swap waybills on wagons (before marshalling) and submarine batteries ended up in South Italy while water canteens ended up in St. Nazaire.

  • @eliotreader8220
    @eliotreader8220 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    thank goodness the Germans didn't know that much about steam engines

  • @hornetscales8274
    @hornetscales8274 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Confusion and delay".

  • @garryferrington811
    @garryferrington811 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Marvelous. I really enjoyed this.

  • @mayohoskotwrandttte
    @mayohoskotwrandttte วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Those resistors are smarter than the executives at British railway companies right now

    • @Soundbrigade
      @Soundbrigade 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What da f***?! Are you actually meaning BR is worse than Swedish Rail??!! 🤬

  • @EmbalmerEmi
    @EmbalmerEmi 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It's odd but I feel so much pride for these people,so smart and determined. ❤

  • @pietersnackaert
    @pietersnackaert วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    FINALLY someone who says NMBS (dutch) and not SNCB (french), we apreciate you!!!

    • @T3ki1a_
      @T3ki1a_ วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Both are correct...

    • @pietersnackaert
      @pietersnackaert วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@T3ki1a_ i know, but if you buy a model train from marklin, roco or fleischmann for example its always SNCB, never NMBS

    • @T3ki1a_
      @T3ki1a_ วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pietersnackaert weird they don't just put both....

  • @Noodlewerfer
    @Noodlewerfer วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This story is the definition of "We do a little trolling"

  • @LBSC70
    @LBSC70 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Confusion And Delay at it's finest

  • @kadenrobinson7067
    @kadenrobinson7067 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Remind me of the movie The train 1964

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads1982 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    In the end, this is a story of how people were fighting against Evil.
    People knew what would happen when those people crammed into those Cattle Cars were brought to the camps.

  • @jacksnorth4074
    @jacksnorth4074 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Ghost trains that saved lives?? Yes please 😍

  • @sirmatsdubois2509
    @sirmatsdubois2509 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    It's a bit ironic and a big coincidence because I saw this video while I'm in the museum train world with the last surviving NMBS type 12. In fact I'm looking at it now. It's unfortunately not 12.002 the legendary ghost train but at least it's the exact same locomotive so we can relive a little bit of that history.

  • @CycolacFan
    @CycolacFan วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wonderful story. Network Rail apparently based their entire business plan on it…

  • @brandonl7502
    @brandonl7502 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Guy Ritchie’s next movie.

  • @francisyan542
    @francisyan542 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder……..
    *1944, Germany*
    (Thomas the Tank Engine Universe)
    1202: What do you mean I’m hauling a prisoner train!?
    Driver: Exactly what it means old boy.
    SS: Get a move on you piece of scrap, we haven’t all day.
    1202: Alright alright.
    As 1202 puffs off he immediately begins causing trouble by purposefully holding back and opening various valves to let water out of his system

  • @BotherRed
    @BotherRed วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is the stories I live for

  • @rubentreingames6466
    @rubentreingames6466 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Quite neat since im going to train world at 30 october where a belgian Type 12 is located as well. Sadly 12.002 is scrapped : ( only 12.004 is preserved in train world-

  • @cudwieser3952
    @cudwieser3952 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really should do a short movie of the events. Rare you get a good benny hill, Bust Keaton-esque caper in times of war and still be historically accurate :)

  • @justandy333
    @justandy333 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sounds like the benny hill theme would be rather appropriate in a cinematic retelling of this story!

  • @TorridPrime217
    @TorridPrime217 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So... like 'The Great Escape', but with Belgian steam engines

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A fascinating story.

  • @asteroidrules
    @asteroidrules วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sounds like the plot to an episode of Hogan's Heroes, just generally making a nuisance in such a way that grinds the German war effort to a halt.

  • @harrisonallen651
    @harrisonallen651 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Belgium, you have caused confusion and delay!

  • @vsvnrg3263
    @vsvnrg3263 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    that's a real good story. how come its never been made into a movie?

  • @ЛЬВИНИ
    @ЛЬВИНИ 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very nice video, likes from me!!!

  • @firstnamlastnam2141
    @firstnamlastnam2141 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yakety sax goes well with this

  • @sam-ej7sq
    @sam-ej7sq วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Belgium mentioned, woooooo

  • @844SteamFan
    @844SteamFan วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1:17 I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that one, if it’s the one in Dayton, OH.

  • @alicehodges9964
    @alicehodges9964 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ghost Train Stories I Like It So A Tram Station? Awesome

  • @altermike3197
    @altermike3197 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is awesome

  • @formulahbupz9211
    @formulahbupz9211 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great story but can we talk about the strange designs of some of the engines featured in the video like at 3:08 and 3:14

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How about an interesting story about a time traveling train!

  • @westinbridges7321
    @westinbridges7321 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    These cheeky twits.

  • @Trainmanproductions
    @Trainmanproductions วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this was just a normal day on the penn central lol

  • @Double_D__
    @Double_D__ วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The thing I learn from these videos is that railway workers more often than not, as spiteful mfs that love to fuck eith authority figures, and I'm all about it.

  • @ComengProductions
    @ComengProductions วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What a story

  • @Jayhsia1215
    @Jayhsia1215 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Axel you have caused confusion and delay (how did axel during here)

  • @thequesomanishere
    @thequesomanishere วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you like this story, you need to watch the movie The Train with Burt Lancaster.

  • @robertbalazslorincz8218
    @robertbalazslorincz8218 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    No darn way none of the German soldiers knew how a locomotive worked! Epic story.

  • @HanhiEmo
    @HanhiEmo วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And modern times you dont even need sabotage. Snow, -10c and pendolino do the same trick. You aint going nowhere.

  • @myra0224
    @myra0224 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Oh, I clicked so quick seeing it's about Belgium!
    I absolutely love the type 12 train though so curious what this us going to be about
    Edit: While NMBS/SNCB sadly did tons of things for Germany during that time, we cannot forget the names of these extremely brave workers who risked their lives for the "prisoners"

  • @irvgiles1482
    @irvgiles1482 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wonderful story

  • @PTB_BE
    @PTB_BE วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We do like to Joke about our railroads, but goddamn are they patriots and hero’s

  • @MsMariGaming
    @MsMariGaming วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Biggest game of charades ever

  • @spyfan62591
    @spyfan62591 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    2:07 ]:) he said the thing

  • @MorristheMinor
    @MorristheMinor 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Vive L' Belgique!!

  • @clockworkgiant9070
    @clockworkgiant9070 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It must have been very strange for the railroad workers, who had spent their careers trying to keep the railway working safely and efficient, spending the years of nazi occupation trying to make every mistake they could think of.

    • @msttt3723
      @msttt3723 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Guess they were intelligent to make smalĺ problems that couĺd be fixed later. In Bretagne for example they spared the engines but put sand on the axieles of the carriages. A Lokomotive alone cannot Transport an Thing.

  • @smyset1112
    @smyset1112 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    hyce citation needed ass story

  • @ChristopherDennie-tc5jt
    @ChristopherDennie-tc5jt วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it just me or does the type 12 look an awful lot like Axel from TTTE (happy 40th tv anniversary blue boy)

  • @s-altenburg
    @s-altenburg วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    kind of funny☺

  • @Kepler42BMP
    @Kepler42BMP วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Where the spooky intro??!?!

  • @jordandorsett3106
    @jordandorsett3106 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So Axel is a Ghost Train?!

  • @1020dane
    @1020dane วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Axel

  • @hadeishadeis7462
    @hadeishadeis7462 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This video is non sense. This is just normal railway operation, there is always something broken or wrong or not working or some driver missing. This has nothing to do with war time resistance. If it does... Someone should tell them the war ended long ago and they can stop sabotaging public transport.

  • @SONICX1027
    @SONICX1027 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They need to make this in Trainz with the Thomas Faces on the Engines that participated and make it real, because this is too good

  • @bingbongwong4567
    @bingbongwong4567 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    can you talk about NSWGR in the next video pleas and thank you

    • @Train_Tok_Man
      @Train_Tok_Man วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sign up for his patreon.

    • @bingbongwong4567
      @bingbongwong4567 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Train_Tok_Man ok thanks

  • @sebastianthomsen2225
    @sebastianthomsen2225 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    👻🚂🚃🚃🚃🤪👍

  • @zamazenta2023
    @zamazenta2023 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It is takel a GTOT video

  • @wondermenel2811
    @wondermenel2811 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the french love to mess around with trains

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's Belgium this video is about.

    • @wondermenel2811
      @wondermenel2811 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@florjanbrudar692 shut

  • @brandongaines1731
    @brandongaines1731 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The closing note really got me: "Not all ghost trains are malicious or filled with spooks - some of them actually save lives" 🥲

  • @AnonOmis1000
    @AnonOmis1000 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This needs to be a movie