Great video, as usual. As a person who is thinking that the Neel 51 is the best compromise on the market, I am curious to know if you were to change boat, would you go for the same? Also, would it be possible to have an in-mast main sail? Thoughts on solid life lines (as in AMELs)? Cheers and keep the video coming.
Yes to all of your points but in mast furling you loose performance, in boom would be good. But remember that is another thing to potentially fail. I would double the height of the stanchions and use an ethical brand.
I love the way you think. While I have experience on smaller boats, I am really impressed with your expertise and will take your recommendations fully into account. I really like the fact that you are not a salesman for the boat you are presenting. "This could have been done better." "This is wasted space." Took me all of five minutes to become a subscriber.
On my Corsair f31 ultimate trimaran I was taught to run one of the snubbers to one of the ama's this greatly reduced the dancing effect in the wind and current. Cheers from Northern California!!
Sailing seems like a lot of work. I think I’d rather win the lottery and have a crew to take care of everything so I can sit back and relax. Wish me luck.
Thanks James for posting the video. I’ve been enjoying the technical and sailing tips and advice. I really enjoy your style of video. There’s more then enough touristy sailing videos. I really like the Neel 51, beautiful boat in every way. I was wondering if you need to be strategic as to where and who can haul out the boat? I know this isn’t something you need to do maybe once every few years but you never know, like Sans loosing a piece of their propeller. Cheers 🍻
George, a very kind comment from you, thanks. We aspire to make a difference, not just profit. Planning and strategy are some of the pleasures in sailing, but I have not really had too much of an issue finding somewhere to haul out, what I would say is more difficult, finding adequately skilled labour to help. The same mantra strikes again, better to know and do it yourself, better on many levels. Remember, anywhere there are ships, you will find a large crane. Some emergency scenario shouldn't be a problem. The real issue is do you want to live in a dry dock in THAT shipyard while doing the work......They are never a nice place to be.
Another great helpful one James! Very good tips and advice from a battle tested ship! Very impressed with the bow protection!!! On another subject, one of my big concern on single rudder boat is ;" Do you have a strategy in case you lose the rudder?" Chhers. THank you James and Eva.
You should be able to balance it ok with the sails, it will be slower of course. Depends on how bad the damage is, but as you can see we have a good workshop, lots of underwater resin like splashzone that can fix below the waterline. The keel also protects the rudder. If you were going crazy with money, perhaps also buy a windvane. The emergency tiller works fine if its the rudder links but we could easily rig something up quickly to fix that. I am not massively concerned TBH. Don't forget monohulls have been doing just fine for centuries.
@@carryonsailing thanks for the answer James. Actually lots of monohulls have been abandoned at sea just because of rudder failures, which is such a huge waste. Would a windvane really work on such a big boat with a cockpit shielding the wind? Is there a Neel 51 with one around? There are alternatives like drogues and such, jerry rigging a rudder that works is no small feat, that's why I was wondering if you had some thing planned out. All the best.
I have a jordan series drogue and yes you could use the windvane to steer with less sail up and no rudder. I would make a new rudder out of the old one and spare parts I carry with resin. Basic new rudder would take about an hour to make I would have thought. It wont win any races, but she'll get you home
Loving these detailed technical videos. Even when you spend just a short time on simple things like the preventer, I learn a lot. My wife likes hearing about your dog. You mentioned that every country has different rules. Have you gotten into a situation where the dog hasn't been able to go ashore? Has the dog ever been a problem when customs comes on board to search your boat or when you had advisor / line handlers on board for the Panama canal?
Dog never been a problem for me in any way, she has been a problem for scumbags though.....delighted you are getting some value from the content. Mission accomplished.
All done already where necessary for the heads if that is what you refer to. If it is INOX on the other bows you mean, then I would probably only use 2-3mm steel to save weight. Thanks for comment. I think it is fine as it is right now personally.
Great mods. Videos I'd like to see. Comparisons of the various fast cruising boats. Your Neel is a fast cruiser. How does it compare with an Outremer 55, the Gunboats, the Seawind 1600, the Rapido 60, others (I know you probably haven't sailed these boats, but your experience applied to an overview). If money weren't an issue? How different in practical sailing terms is say your Neel 51 and the 47, and the Outremer 45 and 55? Especially for long passages. (I see the ARC (Atlantic Rally for Cruisers) which isn't supposed to be a race.... The boats that come in first are some super fast designs, but there have also been some Lagoons. (That's a bit like a Winnebago winning the Indy 500). What other boats did you or might you have considered? (Can you tell that I'm shopping? ) Great tip making the sail bag a bit bigger. When I'm done with a charter and I'm putting the unfamiliar main sail away invariably I end up doing everything twice so I can zip the sail bag closed. These things should work for us not the other way round. I don't know about that small cleat at the fore of the ama. I epoxied a raised rest for my rudder on one of my wooden kayaks. One day I needed some help and they just grabbed it snapped it right off leaving a big hole. It looked like a handle. The guy apologized. I was a bit in shock, but not from the damage. No, thank you. You probably just saved my life. Unless I'm wrong, someone's going to try to tie you off to a dock from that point. Maybe a flush pop-up cleat would be better, something that doesn't shout, 'you'll get the best leverage right here.' But maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. And cleats are easier to adjust a line on. Goiot has a huge recall on their escape hatches. Fontaine Pagot, Lagoon, Catana-Bali, and Nautitech. The hatch 'glass' if the sealant gets weak can just pop right out. Underway that ama would likely flood. It seems pretty obvious to me that the 'glass should be mechanically held in place (frames on both sides, bolts...) th-cam.com/video/jkQoxEV77Sg/w-d-xo.html Some companies seem to make stuff that only 'looks like' the part. The plug. Great tip. That is a critical connection. One morning I walked out my back door to go to my job. Light drizzle. The 240VAC plug to my table-saw - no load on it, was smoking, making a sizzling sound, and had just started a fire in the saw dust. A few minutes either way or if it had been out of my sight it would've been a disaster. I'd used that cord and plug for at least 15 years at that point never an issue (and they never moved around so no wear and tear.) Corrosion builds up on connectors (You may only notice the plug, or connection is a bit warmer, it doesn't show up on a multi-meter, it's never a problem - but maybe a drizzle, some sawdust, pollen....) I wonder how many boat fires have started at connections like that. Another great video. Thanks.
Will, thanks for taking the time to write that. Funny, I was going to do the latest boats review next episode so I'll dedicate that one to you. The hatch should be OK but I really hate that company. The dog could run a company better...
Great video. Thank you for the tips. Ava is great with the camera. For the shoreline plug, you mentioned that you switched out the locking plug for a clip. Would you mind sharing the brand that you chose?
I was thinking with the size of the Neel 51, a prospective owner could configure the main living space by clearing some room for an exercise machine or some weights, possibly remove the bed in the bow of the central hull and use that as an exercise room. Wouldn't be a bad idea for a fitness-minded couple. It's crazy how one's mind wanders in ways to customize a yacht with the potential of the Neel 51..
Great content. Perhaps one day we could go to a trackday together :-). Can you advise if it is possible to lift and store a bigger tender? What is the limiting factor? Also generally weight. I hear that boats should be kept light for speed, this is obvious but is it only performance? Is there a total limit? When does it compromise safety?
@@carryonsailing does it look safe enough? I'm just worried about this upwards pull, whether the cleat is made for it as opposed to its primary function - sideways resistance
Another great video. The Tip about Filtering Water is Really Smart, Ive seen that done for Motorhomes but NOT Boats. Are you aware of the "Carry on" movies from the 1950s and 1960s? I am sure its just a coincidence. German Shepherds have a Double Coat, How does your Dog manage with the Heat?
Thank you so much for your videos they are much appreciated! Do you have any comments about the overall build quality observations of Neel 51? I found a website of a disgruntled Neel 51 owner that claims he did more time repairing than sailing. I'm building a Neel 47 as I have the December build slot. The Neel 47 I sailed with sales staff (ARC Winner 2019) in France appeared to be just as good or better than major production builders. I was also interested in the Entegral system but I determined lithium battery prices were astronomically expensive to run the 43K BTU A/C plus the system requires 48V batteries to fast charge in 30 min. I believe the Onan 11KW generator is a cheaper alternative to run the A/C and water maker. I did opt for the Webasto V50 chiller with a variable speed compressor so it may be more efficient. As the batteries become less expensive I think the need for generators will disappear, however, it seems the technology isn't quite ready yet.
Jon I agree with all of your findings and also not everyone is prepared for the sailing lifestyle. It's not all cocktails in the sun. Have a look at my two live streams. The quality is fine if not better than most. You are making the right choices. If it were totally stripped out racer then you might want to go for the integrel.
I bet Neel also appreciates this video. They need real life data to be able to improve. You should email them and offer to tell them everything they need to improve on...and charge for it. Lol!
Hope this is not a stupid question, but with all the venomous creatures in the oceans - do you carry any sort of medication to mitigate the sting or bite? I know there is no all-in-one antidote, but is there anything that may help?
Good question bob. I am a medical doctor and generally have researched this as best I can. Snakes, generally it's curtains and lights out (death). But with the rest, warm water as warm as you can suffer. Peroxide. Generally you are trying to denature the poison. For everything else, drinking large quantities of beer (joke).
Si Claro! Especialmente con la inflación, tiene sentido comprar un barco de segunda mano como el mío ahora, e incluso alquilarlo hasta que alguien esté listo para vivir a bordo.
Hey James, great informative video again! As you recommended previously, I just tried the Neel 45 and also made a video about it: th-cam.com/video/UXlohMPIKSE/w-d-xo.html The marina manager though said, that the Neel 51 is twice as expensive as the Neel 45, but three times as good! Still the Neel 51 is my most favorite boat for a world circumnavigation. Cheers, mate!
Great video, as usual. As a person who is thinking that the Neel 51 is the best compromise on the market, I am curious to know if you were to change boat, would you go for the same? Also, would it be possible to have an in-mast main sail? Thoughts on solid life lines (as in AMELs)? Cheers and keep the video coming.
Yes to all of your points but in mast furling you loose performance, in boom would be good. But remember that is another thing to potentially fail. I would double the height of the stanchions and use an ethical brand.
I love the way you think. While I have experience on smaller boats, I am really impressed with your expertise and will take your recommendations fully into account. I really like the fact that you are not a salesman for the boat you are presenting. "This could have been done better." "This is wasted space." Took me all of five minutes to become a subscriber.
Thanks G. Happy sailing
Another awesome, honest review. It’s comforting from someone that’s not selling to the audience. Thanks again, you have a beautiful yacht.
Hi Steve thanks for your kind words. Drop me a mail on Sailingcarryon@gmail.com we can have a bit more of a private chat.
On my Corsair f31 ultimate trimaran I was taught to run one of the snubbers to one of the ama's this greatly reduced the dancing effect in the wind and current. Cheers from Northern California!!
Not really necessary on this vessel. Thanks though
Thank you for sharing your experience(s). Much appreciated.
You're welcome, hope you catch that pesky road runner
GOLD!!!! so much value. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Sailing seems like a lot of work. I think I’d rather win the lottery and have a crew to take care of everything so I can sit back and relax. Wish me luck.
It certainly is Barry. Not all cocktails in the sun.
Having to put a shied to protect your holding tank showed me just how much work in moding your own sailboat!
You're right Lawrence, not easy but worth the effort if you do the miles.
Great video!
That part where you said "The dog likes the wind through the hair like your self" was funny. (11:05)
Once every millennium when the stars are aligned someone out there finds my jokes funny.... Thank you
That thin anchor line info - thanks!! ❤️
Pleasure
Really nice!! I´m planning to build my trimaran, nice to hear what´s working for you!
Thanks James for posting the video. I’ve been enjoying the technical and sailing tips and advice. I really enjoy your style of video. There’s more then enough touristy sailing videos. I really like the Neel 51, beautiful boat in every way. I was wondering if you need to be strategic as to where and who can haul out the boat? I know this isn’t something you need to do maybe once every few years but you never know, like Sans loosing a piece of their propeller. Cheers 🍻
George, a very kind comment from you, thanks. We aspire to make a difference, not just profit. Planning and strategy are some of the pleasures in sailing, but I have not really had too much of an issue finding somewhere to haul out, what I would say is more difficult, finding adequately skilled labour to help. The same mantra strikes again, better to know and do it yourself, better on many levels. Remember, anywhere there are ships, you will find a large crane. Some emergency scenario shouldn't be a problem. The real issue is do you want to live in a dry dock in THAT shipyard while doing the work......They are never a nice place to be.
Another great helpful one James! Very good tips and advice from a battle tested ship! Very impressed with the bow protection!!! On another subject, one of my big concern on single rudder boat is ;" Do you have a strategy in case you lose the rudder?" Chhers. THank you James and Eva.
You should be able to balance it ok with the sails, it will be slower of course. Depends on how bad the damage is, but as you can see we have a good workshop, lots of underwater resin like splashzone that can fix below the waterline. The keel also protects the rudder. If you were going crazy with money, perhaps also buy a windvane. The emergency tiller works fine if its the rudder links but we could easily rig something up quickly to fix that. I am not massively concerned TBH. Don't forget monohulls have been doing just fine for centuries.
@@carryonsailing thanks for the answer James. Actually lots of monohulls have been abandoned at sea just because of rudder failures, which is such a huge waste. Would a windvane really work on such a big boat with a cockpit shielding the wind? Is there a Neel 51 with one around? There are alternatives like drogues and such, jerry rigging a rudder that works is no small feat, that's why I was wondering if you had some thing planned out. All the best.
I have a jordan series drogue and yes you could use the windvane to steer with less sail up and no rudder. I would make a new rudder out of the old one and spare parts I carry with resin. Basic new rudder would take about an hour to make I would have thought. It wont win any races, but she'll get you home
@@carryonsailing that's all that matters and the confidence that you can do so.
Loving these detailed technical videos. Even when you spend just a short time on simple things like the preventer, I learn a lot.
My wife likes hearing about your dog. You mentioned that every country has different rules. Have you gotten into a situation where the dog hasn't been able to go ashore? Has the dog ever been a problem when customs comes on board to search your boat or when you had advisor / line handlers on board for the Panama canal?
Dog never been a problem for me in any way, she has been a problem for scumbags though.....delighted you are getting some value from the content. Mission accomplished.
I want to see where we beach the boat and change the sail drive seal and clean the prop.. that would be a cool one! Please ❤️ 🙏
It's not a great idea to beach this vessel but this video should help th-cam.com/video/FGHL_qoBQ1A/w-d-xo.html
Good video! Lots of good tips! Thanks for sharing! Are you going to be adding the caps to the ama's later on?
All done already where necessary for the heads if that is what you refer to. If it is INOX on the other bows you mean, then I would probably only use 2-3mm steel to save weight. Thanks for comment. I think it is fine as it is right now personally.
Hi james thanx for the fab tips have you any thoughts on onboard wind power.. .. gracias 🙏🏽 chaz
Not worth the money or annoying sound. Go with solar and big alternators
Great mods.
Videos I'd like to see. Comparisons of the various fast cruising boats. Your Neel is a fast cruiser. How does it compare with an Outremer 55, the Gunboats, the Seawind 1600, the Rapido 60, others (I know you probably haven't sailed these boats, but your experience applied to an overview). If money weren't an issue? How different in practical sailing terms is say your Neel 51 and the 47, and the Outremer 45 and 55? Especially for long passages. (I see the ARC (Atlantic Rally for Cruisers) which isn't supposed to be a race.... The boats that come in first are some super fast designs, but there have also been some Lagoons. (That's a bit like a Winnebago winning the Indy 500). What other boats did you or might you have considered? (Can you tell that I'm shopping? )
Great tip making the sail bag a bit bigger. When I'm done with a charter and I'm putting the unfamiliar main sail away invariably I end up doing everything twice so I can zip the sail bag closed. These things should work for us not the other way round.
I don't know about that small cleat at the fore of the ama. I epoxied a raised rest for my rudder on one of my wooden kayaks. One day I needed some help and they just grabbed it snapped it right off leaving a big hole. It looked like a handle. The guy apologized. I was a bit in shock, but not from the damage. No, thank you. You probably just saved my life. Unless I'm wrong, someone's going to try to tie you off to a dock from that point. Maybe a flush pop-up cleat would be better, something that doesn't shout, 'you'll get the best leverage right here.' But maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. And cleats are easier to adjust a line on.
Goiot has a huge recall on their escape hatches. Fontaine Pagot, Lagoon, Catana-Bali, and Nautitech. The hatch 'glass' if the sealant gets weak can just pop right out. Underway that ama would likely flood. It seems pretty obvious to me that the 'glass should be mechanically held in place (frames on both sides, bolts...) th-cam.com/video/jkQoxEV77Sg/w-d-xo.html Some companies seem to make stuff that only 'looks like' the part.
The plug. Great tip. That is a critical connection. One morning I walked out my back door to go to my job. Light drizzle. The 240VAC plug to my table-saw - no load on it, was smoking, making a sizzling sound, and had just started a fire in the saw dust. A few minutes either way or if it had been out of my sight it would've been a disaster. I'd used that cord and plug for at least 15 years at that point never an issue (and they never moved around so no wear and tear.) Corrosion builds up on connectors (You may only notice the plug, or connection is a bit warmer, it doesn't show up on a multi-meter, it's never a problem - but maybe a drizzle, some sawdust, pollen....) I wonder how many boat fires have started at connections like that.
Another great video. Thanks.
Will, thanks for taking the time to write that. Funny, I was going to do the latest boats review next episode so I'll dedicate that one to you. The hatch should be OK but I really hate that company. The dog could run a company better...
yo yo yo i was waiting for ya!
Great video. Thank you for the tips. Ava is great with the camera. For the shoreline plug, you mentioned that you switched out the locking plug for a clip. Would you mind sharing the brand that you chose?
Thanks for your kind comments. smartplug.com/
@@carryonsailing thank you! The best content
Great video. I noticed a small screw fell out at 12:55 on the video. It comes out of the self tacking gib traveler. I hope it wasnt important! Cheers
I saw it thanks, that was when I was repairing something else. The track catches a lot of things, including bird poop and leaves.
Next video: an interview with Eva!
Despite her incredible beauty, she is shy.
How do you stay fit, with your sailing lifestyle? Do you have dumb bells/weights on board?
That is coming up soon in a forthcoming episode! thanks also!
I was thinking with the size of the Neel 51, a prospective owner could configure the main living space by clearing some room for an exercise machine or some weights, possibly remove the bed in the bow of the central hull and use that as an exercise room. Wouldn't be a bad idea for a fitness-minded couple. It's crazy how one's mind wanders in ways to customize a yacht with the potential of the Neel 51..
In an ideal world you never needed to go to a marina hence no need for a bow thruster.
Forgot to ask, how big was your electrical system? Solar panels, inverter, and the size of the batteries. Many thanks!
Thanks for the laugh. Its a 5k inverter and about 2.2 kw of solar.
Great content. Perhaps one day we could go to a trackday together :-). Can you advise if it is possible to lift and store a bigger tender? What is the limiting factor? Also generally weight. I hear that boats should be kept light for speed, this is obvious but is it only performance? Is there a total limit? When does it compromise safety?
You want a tender you can pull up a beach....
@carryonsailing how did you rig your gybe / boom preventer? Did you use aft mooring cleats to attach preventers?
I did indeed
@@carryonsailing does it look safe enough? I'm just worried about this upwards pull, whether the cleat is made for it as opposed to its primary function - sideways resistance
It's fine, I tested it and it works. Make use of what you've got.
Another great video. The Tip about Filtering Water is Really Smart, Ive seen that done for Motorhomes but NOT Boats. Are you aware of the "Carry on" movies from the 1950s and 1960s? I am sure its just a coincidence. German Shepherds have a Double Coat, How does your Dog manage with the Heat?
I loved those series hence the name. She's OK in the heat cause we shave her!
Thank you so much for your videos they are much appreciated! Do you have any comments about the overall build quality observations of Neel 51? I found a website of a disgruntled Neel 51 owner that claims he did more time repairing than sailing. I'm building a Neel 47 as I have the December build slot. The Neel 47 I sailed with sales staff (ARC Winner 2019) in France appeared to be just as good or better than major production builders. I was also interested in the Entegral system but I determined lithium battery prices were astronomically expensive to run the 43K BTU A/C plus the system requires 48V batteries to fast charge in 30 min. I believe the Onan 11KW generator is a cheaper alternative to run the A/C and water maker. I did opt for the Webasto V50 chiller with a variable speed compressor so it may be more efficient. As the batteries become less expensive I think the need for generators will disappear, however, it seems the technology isn't quite ready yet.
Jon I agree with all of your findings and also not everyone is prepared for the sailing lifestyle. It's not all cocktails in the sun. Have a look at my two live streams. The quality is fine if not better than most. You are making the right choices. If it were totally stripped out racer then you might want to go for the integrel.
Great vid those shorts look like. Stubbies circa NZ 1979
My super modelling career is over... Told you folks you don't want to see me in a bikini
I bet Neel also appreciates this video. They need real life data to be able to improve. You should email them and offer to tell them everything they need to improve on...and charge for it. Lol!
No charge. Just like helping people
do you think the neel 47 would be better since it can fit in a travelift for haul out while the 51 cant ?
The 51 fits in a travel lift?
Hope this is not a stupid question, but with all the venomous creatures in the oceans - do you carry any sort of medication to mitigate the sting or bite? I know there is no all-in-one antidote, but is there anything that may help?
Good question bob. I am a medical doctor and generally have researched this as best I can. Snakes, generally it's curtains and lights out (death). But with the rest, warm water as warm as you can suffer. Peroxide. Generally you are trying to denature the poison. For everything else, drinking large quantities of beer (joke).
🙂👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Welcome back nobody! We missed you
@@carryonsailing Glad to be back!🙂
Sabes cuánto tiempo tarda Neel en la construcción y entrega de un neel 51?
Espero que te vaya bien la venta.
Un saludo!
Unos 3 años en lista de espera me temo. Gracias por tu comentario.
@@carryonsailing 3 años es demasiado tiempo.
Si Claro! Especialmente con la inflación, tiene sentido comprar un barco de segunda mano como el mío ahora, e incluso alquilarlo hasta que alguien esté listo para vivir a bordo.
How more more are the berthing charges for you Trimaran?
Berthing charges are normally based off length rather than sq ft or meters. Win situation usually.
Where on the boat does your dog go to the toilet?
The trampoline
Hey James, great informative video again! As you recommended previously, I just tried the Neel 45 and also made a video about it: th-cam.com/video/UXlohMPIKSE/w-d-xo.html
The marina manager though said, that the Neel 51 is twice as expensive as the Neel 45, but three times as good! Still the Neel 51 is my most favorite boat for a world circumnavigation. Cheers, mate!
Thanks Jan, I will have a watch and check it out. Well done for getting a sail in one. Smart man.
Pléiade traduction in France 😢😊
J’aimerais avoir du français p
Svp😢
You need to have Eva on camera more. She is much better looking than you. :)
Thanks Steven, I'm aware of that. Let me down easy though....
Encore l’anglais 😡
Translate button.... Again
He is handsome. 💋
And beautiful eyes.