I wish RE would allow Classic and Bullet owners to be able to bypass the limiter in the ECU if they wish. Afterall, it's the owners bike once he/she has purchased it. We don't all live in India, where speeds of 70mph/120kph is plenty. In Australia, to get to many of the back roads where these awesome little bikes thrive, you must use the motorway to get to them, and I feel a few extra kph would make all the difference to people like myself.
Even in india these are considered as slow machines 😂 but most long stroke motors make that much power only, harley davidson 440x is the only bike with same type of engine that goes to about 135 easily, other than that all those sports bikes of 160 to 400cc short strock engines goes easily above 120 , these days 400cc bikes are so fast in india that 120 is like nothing for them. We have relatively new companies so we were bound to make makes with less investment so we have developed the best single cylinder motors except for royal enfield where they had developed a new parallel twin. A speculation is that they are working on a 750cc parallel twin as well. Because of there image, the old school torque machines , RE can't make bikes with race sport engines, so all those classic names of royal enfield stable will always have a long stroke torque engine, Himalayan 450 and guirilla are whole new bikes so they got that new sherpa , I hope now you understand and correct your facts
@@telecasterluva666 in india if you are cought going above 130 there is no fine. You have to surrender your vehicle and license at the police station under whose jurisdiction the camera lies. Then you can appear in court and do as you are told. There simply is no lawful need to go beyond those speeds. If enfield has to go faster they will have to provide better brakes. And they make all the torque at low rpm. It is for going relatively slow, watch the scenery, sing a song and forget about time and troubles, at least that is what I do.
The new Meteor 350 Aurora comes without the restrictor from the factory. Mine has shown 83mph on the speedo and the restrictor still hadn't kicked in. I know of another Aurora owner whose bike is the same.
@@exeterrider Yep, it's fine. I know when the engine was put into production with the restrictor fitted the engine was only reaching around 80% of its maximum safe power. The Royal Enfield promotional material described it as a cruising motorcycle with a 4 speed gearbox plus an overdrive (5th gear to you and I). They said the way to get the best out of the bike was to take it to 70mph in 4th gear and then put it into overdrive and cruise all day at that speed. You don't put that stuff into sales blurb if its likely to go bang on you. I understand through the Grapevine although unofficial that all new Meteors since the release of the Aurora have now had the restrictor removed. There are also the same whispers about other models in the J Series range that have had the engine restrictor removed.🤔👍
Never mind all that throttle body stuff, where did you get that rear rack? Ps. Mines a 22 an done DNA filter, open pipe, stage two cam, 16 tooth front, shed a shit load a weight does 60 mph in 3rd. a still won’t get her arse past 74 😢 still love it. I call her the Bar Fly 💪😎
Now he misses the point all of his upgrades have little to no effect on increasing and maintaining a higher top speed without the throttle body/ ECU upgrade !
My 2022 411 Himalayan will do 80mph stock. I don't see the need for all the performance modifications. I change the oil every 3000 miles, and other than Viterra, all weather front bags, this Enfield runs like a champion. Today's ride, the odometer, will turn to 10,000 miles. The bike is too light to be traveling faster than 80 mph. I ride Red Rock in Vegas, and I am fortunate. No problems whatsoever with the Enfield.
@@macumuzahn check the throttle body part number. There’s 2 different ones that I can see have been on the hunter, although you are the first person I have heard that has said this.
New ones are, you've to get the base variant hunter ecu for it to be going past 120kmph. It stutters and I have to leave the throttle and then wrap it again right after 120.The bike doesn't like it much though...
My hunter is restricted to 120ish... I have a year old Hunter dapper grey ( that's pretty much the oldest and most base model out there outside India, where you can get some even lower specd ones) That being said I live in a fairly hilly area of central Europe and I'm lucky to keep steady 95 KPH on many inclines... so even if I could unrestrict it, I'm not sure it's worth the effort... certainly not the money.
Let’s be clear here, it’s not the change in the throttle body per se but that the throttle body also includes the ECU. What else does changing the ECU mean? Playing in the dark.
@@jimporter Yeah it’s the ecu in the throttle body that governs the speed limiter. The throttle body mechanics are the same in all the 350s. Some say mapping is different, I don’t see it but it is also adaptive from the sensors. Bike rides the same and diagnostic read outs unaffected
In order to increase the speed of the motorcycle , in Russia they simply change the leading or driven star . I have ,,a Yamaha Serow XT250,, . The standard drive sprocket has 15 teeth. I put an asterisk on 16 teeth and the speed of my motorcycle increased by 8 km/h. It 's probably easier , cheaper and good for the engine ... 😁
Hello again! I am a normal person and a professional driver with 39 years of experience and I know how to correct my mistakes. In the previous comment I wrote something stupid. Since the motorcycle has ABS, it transmits a signal to the ECU and clamps the motor from the read signal. And therefore, replacing the sprockets will not help increase the speed. Once again, I apologize to the author of the video for the mistake made. ☹
Hi, thanks for the informative video, can you please tell me if the rev limiter is also deleted from the RLT00187 throttle body? I have a Hunter 350 with the earlier throttle body ECU it hits a wall around 6250 rpm when going through the gears ,i understand this is not normal riding , but since i fitted the DNA filter kit, decat and fuel x pro plus it revs much more freely, the next obvious progression is to fit the stage 2 cam however with the rev limiter it wouldn't really be able to capitalise as the revs are capped so low, and yes i know its a long stroke motor , many thanks.
🎉Hi, great video can you please tell me if RLT00187 throttle body/ ECU also has the rev limiter deleted or does it hit a wall @ 6250 rpm? many thanks 👍
I have a Supernova Meteor and the fact it does 72mph flat out doesnt bother me as im quite happy to be farting around about 50.... Fart fart fart.... I am also reading that the original Hunter is restricted to 72mph and if you want to de-restricted the Meteor not only do you need an up to date Hunter throttle body but you need the Hunter ECU!!
Quick question: the Hunter TB part number you have is different to the one shown on the Hitchcock's website (which I was considering ordering). They have RLT00164. I was wondering where you got your part numnber from ?
@@martindiggins833 RLT00164 has now been superseded by RLT00187 so I would imagine the 164 is just older stock, I also believe 164 is used on the new Bullet i’m not sure if it has a speed limiter, a quick search on the forums shows at least one person achieving 80 on their hunter gps checked.
@@daveparry6990 no it doesn’t. Will cause the eml light to come on and other issues as it’s looking for a different speedometer setup which the hunter and meteor share/ but the classic does not (gear indicator etc)
@@kfkwAL7 alright man. I will get this done this week. Even top speed in each gear is different on hunter than on meteor.. i want to see that improve! What other mods would you recommend?
I have also confirmed the 83 mph top speed on the Hunter 350. Both via the gauge, and via GPS. I reckon that wind resistance stops the Hunter/Meteor from going any faster, but does anyone know what the theoretical top speed is based on the gearing? If the Hunter throttle body truly has no speed limiter, then in theory you should be able to reach the top speed of the gearing by adding more power. And with the 16T front sprocket, that top speed should be even higher...well into the 90 mph range. Could make the bike very viable for highway/motorway cruising.
@@kfkwAL7 the speed limiter uses the speed of the front wheel to apply the limit so because the hunter has a smaller front wheel its speed limiter allows the wheel to spin faster than the 19" wheel on the meteor or classic.
@@LabradoodleCockapoo I’m not sure about that. I know it’s to do with the abs rings. The hunter does not have a governed speed limit which the meteor does. The speedometer hasn’t changed on readout. The meteor 350 available in Brazil has no speed limiter and believe throttle body is different due to mapping and the possibility of poor fuel higher in Brazil.
@@LabradoodleCockapoo But it knows the speed of that wheel so that doesn't work. The Part Number for the restricted Meteors is different from the one used on the Hunter.
Is it really worth all the hassle and money just to get 7mph more, I'm happy with the bike as it is. If you want more speed you should have bought a different bike.
@@bvgb921 the fact you watched the video means you were thinking about it too! Honestly though was it worth it, yes I can now commute on motorways without constantly banging off the limiter which did my head in. I have other much faster bikes too, but like the easy going nature of the meteor which is now repeated at top speed which now settles at just over 80.
I wish RE would allow Classic and Bullet owners to be able to bypass the limiter in the ECU if they wish. Afterall, it's the owners bike once he/she has purchased it. We don't all live in India, where speeds of 70mph/120kph is plenty. In Australia, to get to many of the back roads where these awesome little bikes thrive, you must use the motorway to get to them, and I feel a few extra kph would make all the difference to people like myself.
Top speed is what leaves these re 350s down
In our state of commieland kerala top speed for motorcycles is 60 kmph. Apart from lottery and tax on liquor fines are the only revenue.
I don't think it would make much difference as I don't think mine can even reach the limited speed any!
Even in india these are considered as slow machines 😂 but most long stroke motors make that much power only, harley davidson 440x is the only bike with same type of engine that goes to about 135 easily, other than that all those sports bikes of 160 to 400cc short strock engines goes easily above 120 , these days 400cc bikes are so fast in india that 120 is like nothing for them. We have relatively new companies so we were bound to make makes with less investment so we have developed the best single cylinder motors except for royal enfield where they had developed a new parallel twin. A speculation is that they are working on a 750cc parallel twin as well. Because of there image, the old school torque machines , RE can't make bikes with race sport engines, so all those classic names of royal enfield stable will always have a long stroke torque engine, Himalayan 450 and guirilla are whole new bikes so they got that new sherpa , I hope now you understand and correct your facts
@@telecasterluva666 in india if you are cought going above 130 there is no fine. You have to surrender your vehicle and license at the police station under whose jurisdiction the camera lies. Then you can appear in court and do as you are told. There simply is no lawful need to go beyond those speeds. If enfield has to go faster they will have to provide better brakes. And they make all the torque at low rpm. It is for going relatively slow, watch the scenery, sing a song and forget about time and troubles, at least that is what I do.
Sad I got shot of the Meteor for this very reason! Thank goodness someone has gotten round it!
@@RobLittleuk it does make a difference on motorways definitely
@kfkwAL7 Must admit to feeling vulnerable on the motorway
The new Meteor 350 Aurora comes without the restrictor from the factory. Mine has shown 83mph on the speedo and the restrictor still hadn't kicked in. I know of another Aurora owner whose bike is the same.
@@jonathandeeley6276 great- can you see the part number of the throttle body, it should be easy to see.
Would like to know as well@@kfkwAL7
@jonathandeeley6276 please do let us know the part number, cheers.
Nice one john...at 70 it still seems the engine is relaxed although revving higher...is it still ok past 70?
@@exeterrider Yep, it's fine. I know when the engine was put into production with the restrictor fitted the engine was only reaching around 80% of its maximum safe power. The Royal Enfield promotional material described it as a cruising motorcycle with a 4 speed gearbox plus an overdrive (5th gear to you and I). They said the way to get the best out of the bike was to take it to 70mph in 4th gear and then put it into overdrive and cruise all day at that speed. You don't put that stuff into sales blurb if its likely to go bang on you.
I understand through the Grapevine although unofficial that all new Meteors since the release of the Aurora have now had the restrictor removed. There are also the same whispers about other models in the J Series range that have had the engine restrictor removed.🤔👍
Never mind all that throttle body stuff, where did you get that rear rack? Ps. Mines a 22 an done DNA filter, open pipe, stage two cam, 16 tooth front, shed a shit load a weight does 60 mph in 3rd. a still won’t get her arse past 74 😢 still love it. I call her the Bar Fly 💪😎
@@rockintigger good, here’s some of my mods in another video th-cam.com/video/4d0aZ8KObXc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bSv8lodGi_VRUsLX
Now he misses the point all of his upgrades have little to no effect on increasing and maintaining a higher top speed without the throttle body/ ECU upgrade !
My 2022 411 Himalayan will do 80mph stock. I don't see the need for all the performance modifications.
I change the oil every 3000 miles, and other than Viterra, all weather front bags, this Enfield runs like a champion. Today's ride, the odometer, will turn to 10,000 miles.
The bike is too light to be traveling faster than 80 mph.
I ride Red Rock in Vegas, and I am fortunate. No problems whatsoever with the Enfield.
The HNTR 350 is also speed restricted, my wife has one.
@@macumuzahn check the throttle body part number. There’s 2 different ones that I can see have been on the hunter, although you are the first person I have heard that has said this.
New ones are, you've to get the base variant hunter ecu for it to be going past 120kmph. It stutters and I have to leave the throttle and then wrap it again right after 120.The bike doesn't like it much though...
My hunter is restricted to 120ish...
I have a year old Hunter dapper grey ( that's pretty much the oldest and most base model out there outside India, where you can get some even lower specd ones)
That being said I live in a fairly hilly area of central Europe and I'm lucky to keep steady 95 KPH on many inclines... so even if I could unrestrict it, I'm not sure it's worth the effort... certainly not the money.
@@Staromil dapper grey is not the base variant
83 not bad , i mean I had a Himalayan and that was enough , great fun .
Finally someone found a solution
how times change my 50cc fizzy would do 110mph , totally stock
Would be good to know what internal differences there are. Maybe able to modify the STD unit.
@@adriantyler6859 it’s just the mapping.
Lucky you have a private road.
Nice info, thanks! 👍🏼 What year is your Meteor?
@@indrishmo hi it’s a 2021
Let’s be clear here, it’s not the change in the throttle body per se but that the throttle body also includes the ECU. What else does changing the ECU mean? Playing in the dark.
@@jimporter Yeah it’s the ecu in the throttle body that governs the speed limiter. The throttle body mechanics are the same in all the 350s. Some say mapping is different, I don’t see it but it is also adaptive from the sensors. Bike rides the same and diagnostic read outs unaffected
In order to increase the speed of the motorcycle , in Russia they simply change the leading or driven star . I have ,,a Yamaha Serow XT250,, . The standard drive sprocket has 15 teeth. I put an asterisk on 16 teeth and the speed of my motorcycle increased by 8 km/h. It 's probably easier , cheaper and good for the engine ... 😁
Hello again! I am a normal person and a professional driver with 39 years of experience and I know how to correct my mistakes. In the previous comment I wrote something stupid. Since the motorcycle has ABS, it transmits a signal to the ECU and clamps the motor from the read signal. And therefore, replacing the sprockets will not help increase the speed. Once again, I apologize to the author of the video for the mistake made. ☹
Hi, thanks for the informative video, can you please tell me if the rev limiter is also deleted from the RLT00187 throttle body? I have a Hunter 350 with the earlier throttle body ECU it hits a wall around 6250 rpm when going through the gears ,i understand this is not normal riding , but since i fitted the DNA filter kit, decat and fuel x pro plus it revs much more freely, the next obvious progression is to fit the stage 2 cam however with the rev limiter it wouldn't really be able to capitalise as the revs are capped so low, and yes i know its a long stroke motor , many thanks.
@@steveoswin6084 hi the rev limiter is still there but not sure what the limit is, I can check in about a weeks time when I’m back home?
Thanks 👍
🎉Hi, great video can you please tell me if RLT00187 throttle body/ ECU also has the rev limiter deleted or does it hit a wall @ 6250 rpm? many thanks 👍
@@steveoswin6084 I will check
79 mph is already slow enough, why even limiting in the first place?!
@@the.communist I think something to do with Indian law…
WHY is a speed limiter needed on such a small cc bike?
@@MikeMcRoberts I think something to do with Indian license laws if I’m wrong please someone let me know too!
Nope. Nothing like that. It's just plain stupid that they put it there . @@kfkwAL7
I wonder if it is to do with the different wheelsize ? New ecu thinks it is spinning 17 inch wheels?
@@tombobb no it’s just there is not speed limit on the hunter at all
Fantastic news. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
I have a Supernova Meteor and the fact it does 72mph flat out doesnt bother me as im quite happy to be farting around about 50.... Fart fart fart....
I am also reading that the original Hunter is restricted to 72mph and if you want to de-restricted the Meteor not only do you need an up to date Hunter throttle body but you need the Hunter ECU!!
@@Team-fabulous the throttle body itself is the same on all the 350s but it’s the ecu part that of the body that has the speed limiter.
Comes as one unit.
Can you make a video about how it runs and all.
@@user-Wfmngr I could but it just runs the same as normal…
Quick question: the Hunter TB part number you have is different to the one shown on the Hitchcock's website (which I was considering ordering). They have RLT00164. I was wondering where you got your part numnber from ?
@@martindiggins833 RLT00164 has now been superseded by RLT00187 so I would imagine the 164 is just older stock, I also believe 164 is used on the new Bullet i’m not sure if it has a speed limiter, a quick search on the forums shows at least one person achieving 80 on their hunter gps checked.
Cheers :o)
Assume this would work the same on classic 350?
@@daveparry6990 no it doesn’t. Will cause the eml light to come on and other issues as it’s looking for a different speedometer setup which the hunter and meteor share/ but the classic does not (gear indicator etc)
Well done, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Hey! Looking to do this mod on my meteor 350… have you tried this yourself?
@@karanlalwani009 yes all my photos and videos show it.
@ great man. Was there a noticeable difference?
Subscribed 👍
@ should i go for this mod? It will probably cost a little less in India
@ yes it makes a difference if you ride in long motorway journeys
@@kfkwAL7 alright man. I will get this done this week. Even top speed in each gear is different on hunter than on meteor.. i want to see that improve! What other mods would you recommend?
I have also confirmed the 83 mph top speed on the Hunter 350. Both via the gauge, and via GPS.
I reckon that wind resistance stops the Hunter/Meteor from going any faster, but does anyone know what the theoretical top speed is based on the gearing?
If the Hunter throttle body truly has no speed limiter, then in theory you should be able to reach the top speed of the gearing by adding more power. And with the 16T front sprocket, that top speed should be even higher...well into the 90 mph range.
Could make the bike very viable for highway/motorway cruising.
@@davidashworth1985 I have the 16 tooth front sprocket- might try it and let you know
@@kfkwAL7 the speed limiter uses the speed of the front wheel to apply the limit so because the hunter has a smaller front wheel its speed limiter allows the wheel to spin faster than the 19" wheel on the meteor or classic.
@@LabradoodleCockapoo I’m not sure about that. I know it’s to do with the abs rings. The hunter does not have a governed speed limit which the meteor does. The speedometer hasn’t changed on readout. The meteor 350 available in Brazil has no speed limiter and believe throttle body is different due to mapping and the possibility of poor fuel higher in Brazil.
@@LabradoodleCockapoo But it knows the speed of that wheel so that doesn't work. The Part Number for the restricted Meteors is different from the one used on the Hunter.
Where can I buy it? I’ve checked eBay and nothing. Thanks
@@tiffanyl3268 look at eBay India too, Hitchcock etc
If i am to get a meteor 350 and comes restricted, what hunter throttle body part number should i be looking to get to derestict it?
Rlt00187
@@kfkwAL7 thank you buddy much appreciated 🤜🤛
And finally ! Does the Meteor ride differently with the Hunter TB fitted. Just wondering if the different mapping is noticeable. Thanks.
@@martindiggins833 no it rides the same. I’ve got several mods on mine too.
@@kfkwAL7 Thanks. Great to know.
Is it really worth all the hassle and money just to get 7mph more, I'm happy with the bike as it is. If you want more speed you should have bought a different bike.
@@bvgb921 the fact you watched the video means you were thinking about it too! Honestly though was it worth it, yes I can now commute on motorways without constantly banging off the limiter which did my head in. I have other much faster bikes too, but like the easy going nature of the meteor which is now repeated at top speed which now settles at just over 80.
Should be removed before they are imported in to uk
Buy a Guerilla !
@@Irishrover1 No thanks. If I was spending that money I’d buy a better bike like the KTM Duke 390, which I already had a few years ago.
Please make a video that proofs that
@@premminocha1665 what?
It's still a slug!
@@AndrewSinclair-bk9ho ok
Simple sell it and get a 500
Thanks for watching
Good to know