My mom used to make these for my brother. We called them Cavalry shirts, and my brother even wore it like John Wayne, 1 or even 2 buttons undone. Mind you, this was in the last 70's... Not 1870's but 1970's. OH, and she even piped them in yellow
That rocks! My wife and I made pro wrestling gear for many years (tights, trunks, masks, etc). Hardly anyone makes anything anymore. When I was a kid half the women in town (and ALL the teachers in my school) wore clothes they had made themselves out of doubleknit polyester. There was a fabric store called Mr. Yard in our tiny town that was just busy as hell all the time in those days. They even sold novelties and comic books as well as fabric, patterns and scissors.
Maybe another advantage. If you are a sloppy eater, you take off the bib while eating, and then hide the mess you made under the bib when done. And viola!, clean shirt! 😂
Maybe it is the other way around. This way they still had a shirt while their bib was washed. Easier to nwash your bib in the town water trough and not offend the ladies.
The fouled anchor is the emblem Navy CPO. After 20 years in the Navy, I still have no idea of the significance. I seem to remember them telling us in boot camp, but that was nearly 50 years ago. I’m old, I forget stuff, LOL!
Santee, you always add to my knowledge of the old west. As a weapons guy, I have always sort of overlooked the more mundane aspects of the period, such as clothing. Thanks.
Krieghoff Luger Pistols had Anchor with dagger superimposed as their logo. Krieg means War, Hoff = Hope. in Germany. dagger represents war, anchor represents hope. also, letter H and K on either side, for Heinrich Krieghoff, NOT Heckler & Koch.
I had one made from heavy cotton flannel and it was my favorite shirt. The bib gave an extra layer of cloth that definitely protected against the wind and the cold.
I saw a catalog cerca 1890s in a museum opened to the bib shirt. It advertised being able to buy one shirt and change bibs for different styles. I had plain color bibs and fancy embroidered bibs.
I'd noticed these shirts and wondered about them, thanks! Yes, the unbuttoned button is rakish, but you really need the kerchief like the Duke was wearing to really complete the ensemble,
Thanks again Santee & Co. You're looking stylish in that shirt . I didn't know about the anchor on some of those shirts , but as a US Navy veteran I like it.
Now, if I show this to my wife she will MAKE me wear them everyday. It seems I am always slopping something on my chest and have ruined several shirts from the accumulated stains. You could probably even turn the bib part inside out for eating and re-button the clean side out after meals! Ingenious!
I wore a few 50+ yrs ago as a kid in Kansas. Bib shirt we called them, Snap button western shirts, boots, and Levi jeans. Moved to NY the jeans stayed.
I never even noticed them, as being separate from the shirts underneath!🙃 How you get all of those audio-visual clips, and pics to correlate with the topics, is a feat in itself, Santee... Since Duke Wayne wore 'em, they must've been pretty, dang popular. 🤠👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Another finest kind tutorial. I Always admired those shirts on movie actors but had no idea what they were. Mucho gracias! Yours is the only western themed channel I Patreonize. Your fancy dancy edits and camera framing really spice up a potentially dull topic. That and your visial style adds to the charm. The norm for channels seem to be voice overs or talking heads. You take your channel to an EI level (Entertaining and Informative). A lot of extra work. I would hope more viewers appreciate the difference and Patreonize. Move 'em out!
Thanks for this information! I have a black Longview bib shirt from Frontier Classics. Feels slightly heavy and well made. It was the first old west style shirt I bought. I have seen reproduction red bib shirts that were labelled as fireman's shirt but I wasn't able to find out why they were called fireman's shirts, but I did assume they were worn by firemen back in the day. I never knew about the anchor and the other designs on the bib. Practical and stylish.
Santee in is bib shirt ! Always Iconic for sure ! Thanks for bringing this up ! Keep up amigo and have a great weekend and keep does buttons tide on your bib!
South Union mills makes a replica of a bib shirt found on the steamship Arabia and they are gorgeous and well worth looking at. Most of the clothes that I don’t make myself come from south Union mills. They make the most accurate reproductions I’ve found of period clothing unlike from frontier classics, scully, wah maker etc that get the material and patterns all wrong. I highly suggest checking them out they go above and beyond and they truly sell nothing whatsoever that is inaccurate! Hope you are well- your holster and clothes making friend from Maryland !
I've always wanted one in blue. As for valiant and wayward Billy's anchor, along with the top hat, I suspect he liked to dude up as much as a cowhand and small time rustler's wages would allow.
I had my first shield-front shirts custom made for me in 1975, so I was an early adopter. More recently, I was fortunate to purchase some very nice ones from River Junction when they were selling out old stock on eBay. I got them for half price in 3XL which I need. Sorry you missed out. Real shield shape burgundy with blue piping, and forest green with yellow piping which I over-dyed green. Paul said they were not able to restock because the ladies who made the shirts were just not ablate make them anymore. Arthritis I guess. It looks like some people are still making them, but the ones with piping are rare. My favorites are these, but with smile pockets under the shield. Not Old West, but hey.
I made one out of red plaid wool (customer wanted that fabric). The store bought pattern was not made to be a pull over shirt, but had a button up front. Then it was found that he was allergic to wool, so the solution was a navy blue cotton lining. The bib hid the button up shirt front and came out looking very good. I have to say I was sick and tired of making button holes by the time the project finished. It did look good with the bib partly unbuttoned. Should I ever make another one I will go for the pull over pattern !
As both an "old westian" who sews, and a volunteer firefighter, I really need to get around to making a red wool bib front shirt. It's criminal that I haven't done so already. Fun fact, the reason firefighters wore them was because the bib prevented sparks and embers from getting inside the shirt.
Excellent episode Santee! It is a very cool shirt. With all the information you just showed, I just may need to make one. I have made many shirts over the years, but never a bib front. Y'all have a great weekend Pard! Cheers!
Always did wonder what the name of that shirt was 👍 maybe one day I’ll get me one. Awesome video as always keep up the awesome work and can’t wait to see the next one.
Very awsomely interestingly informative video, I really liked and enjoyed it, great job and well done, keep up the great work. I learned alot about frontier bib front shirts from the old west and got a lot of inspiration for my Retro, videogames, computer and old west frontier inspired myths-archive franchise project Mysteriarch Mythos: Pixel Pioneers and the polygon realms. I already finished the first draft of story #1 of my Mythos project and are now working on writing story #2 and I wrote a couple games for my stories too,that are called Mharzoh VideoLand Ventures 7400 and TetraForce-XelQuest Ventures 7400, that were developed by the company Katori VideoDistributions games Inc back in the year 1993 and released in 1996. I'm definitely going to add bib front shirts to my stories and world, alongside other clothing from tge old west and clothing from the 70s to the 2000s. There's a old west frontier island in my storys world called Tabbantha Isle.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thanks. Today I'm working on writing story #1 of my mythos project and trying to think of a title for story #1 that is already finished. I'm getting further inspiration from the Japanese mythology, spiritualism and folklore within the legend of zelda series as well as inspiration from the mario franchise especially super mario 64. I'm planning on adding a scifi fantasy version of samsara and the uroboros symbol to my stories and world, which is a sureal,nonsensical and weird type world with dream logic,video game logic and cartoon logic as tge worlds physics.
Santee another historical video. I always thought in Hollywood movies especially John Wayne wearing them. I never looked that close to Billy the Kid shirt to see bib & anchor. Makes sense history on bib shirt. -Kid Yuma
The bib front is still a great design, and even incorporated into modern comic book superhero costumes like Captain Marvel (the SHAZAM version) and the Ghost Rider (both the cowboy and flaming skull versions).
The Monkees used a versiion of the western bib shirt for their stage costume on their TV Show. It seemed that Mike Nesmith was a big fan of that style, being from Texas and the costume designer Vincent Dee ran them up in red and blue along with black velvet.
Y'all makin' me feel old. Use to watch the stunt gunfights in Gilbert in the '70's - kinda wondering what ever happened to 'Apache Land Movie Ranch' out toward AJ...
Apacheland burnt down about 2004. They were able to save the Rifleman's barn and the Elvis chapel which are now at the Superstition Mountains museum near Goldfield.
@@ArizonaGhostriders are you willing to share what days you are usually there? We should be coming through the area April 21st or somewhere in that ballpark. If not, I understand!
The bib shirt was standard wear among cavalrymen. George Custe4 was most likely wearing one the day he died along the bluffs overlooking the Little Bighorn. It was much to hot to be wearing a buckskin jacket though h3 was most definitely wearing buckskin pants.
That was very interesting about the bib shirts. Hey Santee, as you know, mining was a huge part of the old west, what were the miners wearing in the late 1800’S? THANKS FOR TJIS GREAT EPISODE
I love bib shirts, have a few of them and it isn't something you see much out here in Saskatchewan (rarely see western stores selling them). Like banded collar shirts, they are different and more interesting than the current basic shirt style we have today. I always wonder if shirts like this went out of fashion or if manufacturers didn't want to make all these multiple styles and people slowly stopped making their own clothes so the current basic style of button shirt just became the standard.
When I lived in Cheyenne between 1976 and 1979. My mothers friend was a Taylor in town that did custom shirts. Her name was Lona and her shirts were known as Lona's Originals. During Cheyenne frontier days she set up her booth and sold custom shirts. She would take orders and fill them throughout the year. Her booth normally had hundreds of custom shirts. At the time, her shirts ran 60 to 75 dollars for an off the rack one. And the most expensive I saw was 300.00 for a hand embroidered eagle on the back purchased by Charlie Daniels.
Having seen many westerns growing up I noticed that it was often worn by the US Cavalry so I thought it was copied from them and was copied as a fashion item as often happens. So thanks for giving me a better idea of its origins.
I wonder if you could make them with false ties and bring them back for button-ups, like a cross between a dickie and a clip-on tie, but up front, literally. Maybe even a regular tie. Or maybe underneath a regular tie. You've already got the buttondowns for the collar, and you could use the top button and maybe one above the belt, so we would only need to make double-breasted buttons unaccountably fashionable on shirts, first, so that there could be some standardization of dimensions. I think this is doable.
I went through a WahMaker phase when I was in my 20s. Had a bunch of period shirts, but sadly missed out on the bib shirt. Was pretty easy to pull off a banded collar in polite company, but the idea of a Bib shirt made me very self conscious.
I had the idea of making one of these shirts, so...I cut it out, my sister finally sewed it together and then embroidered snakes and cactus on the cuffs and collar. She won a blue ribbon it in in her fair in OK.
TH-cam will die the day people stop making mundane documentaries about things we did not need to know but are glad someone took the time to do anyway
🤠
My mom used to make these for my brother. We called them Cavalry shirts, and my brother even wore it like John Wayne, 1 or even 2 buttons undone. Mind you, this was in the last 70's... Not 1870's but 1970's. OH, and she even piped them in yellow
Cool!
Great
We had those too Woolworth uses to have them 60s...Tucson
That rocks! My wife and I made pro wrestling gear for many years (tights, trunks, masks, etc). Hardly anyone makes anything anymore. When I was a kid half the women in town (and ALL the teachers in my school) wore clothes they had made themselves out of doubleknit polyester. There was a fabric store called Mr. Yard in our tiny town that was just busy as hell all the time in those days. They even sold novelties and comic books as well as fabric, patterns and scissors.
@@BrutishYetDelightful Wow!
Maybe another advantage. If you are a sloppy eater, you take off the bib while eating, and then hide the mess you made under the bib when done. And viola!, clean shirt! 😂
Right!!!
Maybe it is the other way around. This way they still had a shirt while their bib was washed. Easier to nwash your bib in the town water trough and not offend the ladies.
Never knew it would be so much fun learning about shirts.
Thank You!
@ArizonaGhostriders No,noThank 😊 😅
Lobster bibs had the ⚓ 😂
yep
It’s Santeeday once again, and the word of the week is “Rakish.” 👍🖖
A new favorite!
That was great! I have one like what Duke wore in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.
Yeah!
The fouled anchor is the emblem Navy CPO. After 20 years in the Navy, I still have no idea of the significance. I seem to remember them telling us in boot camp, but that was nearly 50 years ago. I’m old, I forget stuff, LOL!
Thanks! That still doesn't explain the civilian connection..so it's a mystery
Last time at bat, I hit a fouled ball. What's the opposite of foul? Fair. What's the opposite of fouled? Faired?
@@ArizonaGhostridersMaybe it's like Sam Colt having the 1851 navy engraved as a way of saying thanks? Or chinos?
@@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 That's an idea!
Funny that a fouled anchor, an unseaman thing to let happen would be the symbol of a chief
The music, Leaning on the everlasting arms. It took me back to a different time and place. I had almost forgotten how much I miss it.
Awesome!
Santee, you always add to my knowledge of the old west. As a weapons guy, I have always sort of overlooked the more mundane aspects of the period, such as clothing. Thanks.
You're welcome.
Anchor: medival symbol of hope.
An idea!
Krieghoff Luger Pistols had Anchor with dagger superimposed as their logo.
Krieg means War, Hoff = Hope. in Germany.
dagger represents war, anchor represents hope.
also, letter H and K on either side, for Heinrich Krieghoff, NOT Heckler & Koch.
@@davidjacobs8558Interesting. I thought Krieghoff was referring to “war-court” like an armory or warehouse that was solely meant for making arms.
Hebrews 6:19
Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
Symbol of hope? Fat lot of good that did Billy the Kid. 😮 Wonder if he still had that shirt when Garrett shot him?
Well, you sure solved a mystery for me. Nice to see they're still making them. As a schooner driver, I may have to get one with the anchor-bib.
You may have to get it custom made.
These have very quickly become my favorite series of videos
Thank You!
I had one made from heavy cotton flannel and it was my favorite shirt. The bib gave an extra layer of cloth that definitely protected against the wind and the cold.
Awesome!
I saw a catalog cerca 1890s in a museum opened to the bib shirt. It advertised being able to buy one shirt and change bibs for different styles. I had plain color bibs and fancy embroidered bibs.
There ya go! Good find.
Here we are learning about tthings we didn't know we need to knw. Always enjoyable with my Saturday morning coffee.
Glad you enjoyed it
The Billy the Kid kid looks great. Very authentic. I knew immediately who he was supposed to be portraying.
Awesome! Renee did a great job matching it all up
I'd noticed these shirts and wondered about them, thanks! Yes, the unbuttoned button is rakish, but you really need the kerchief like the Duke was wearing to really complete the ensemble,
Could be!
Interesting to know this about a simple shirt design. That part with Billy was fun, stealing the shirt off a dead body, that's our Billy. :3
Great!
I have a few of those! A little tough to get on and off, but I like them! Very cool video Santee!
Yeah, kinda not fun to take off.
Love it. Best Old West content. You and Mrs. Pew Pew have a beautiful and blessed weekend.
Thanks so much! Have a great one.
Thanks again Santee & Co. You're looking stylish in that shirt . I didn't know about the anchor on some of those shirts , but as a US Navy veteran I like it.
Thank You! Appreciate your service, sir.
Now, if I show this to my wife she will MAKE me wear them everyday. It seems I am always slopping something on my chest and have ruined several shirts from the accumulated stains. You could probably even turn the bib part inside out for eating and re-button the clean side out after meals! Ingenious!
It is a great design!
I've always liked those types of shirts on the gentleman of the west. I never knew what they were called .
Another great episode thank you so much. 🤠
You're welcome.
Hi there! I met you today at old town Tucson! We had a huge talk about red dead redemption and guns!
Yes we did! A pleasure to meet you. Subbing to your channel now.
I wore a few 50+ yrs ago as a kid in Kansas. Bib shirt we called them, Snap button western shirts, boots, and Levi jeans. Moved to NY the jeans stayed.
There ya go!
I never even noticed them, as being separate from the shirts underneath!🙃 How you get all of those audio-visual clips, and pics to correlate with the topics, is a feat in itself, Santee... Since Duke Wayne wore 'em, they must've been pretty, dang popular.
🤠👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you, Rhonda. Much appreciated!
Another finest kind tutorial. I
Always admired those shirts on movie actors but had no idea what they were. Mucho gracias! Yours is the only western themed channel I Patreonize. Your fancy dancy edits and camera framing really spice up a potentially dull topic. That and your visial style adds to the charm. The norm for channels seem to be voice overs or talking heads. You take your channel to an EI level (Entertaining and Informative). A lot of extra work. I would hope more viewers appreciate the difference and Patreonize. Move 'em out!
Thank you for the encouraging words!
Thanks for this information! I have a black Longview bib shirt from Frontier Classics. Feels slightly heavy and well made. It was the first old west style shirt I bought. I have seen reproduction red bib shirts that were labelled as fireman's shirt but I wasn't able to find out why they were called fireman's shirts, but I did assume they were worn by firemen back in the day. I never knew about the anchor and the other designs on the bib. Practical and stylish.
Yes, they are stylish.
Santee in is bib shirt ! Always Iconic for sure ! Thanks for bringing this up ! Keep up amigo and have a great weekend and keep does buttons tide on your bib!
Thanks!
Hey Marco!!! How's life brother?
@AdaMtheNinja76 Hi AdaM 👋 I'm doing great, I hope good with yours has well amigo, thanks for haskin amigo 😀
Another great one! I love the look of those shirts, hopefully they make a comeback!
Me too!
South Union mills makes a replica of a bib shirt found on the steamship Arabia and they are gorgeous and well worth looking at. Most of the clothes that I don’t make myself come from south Union mills. They make the most accurate reproductions I’ve found of period clothing unlike from frontier classics, scully, wah maker etc that get the material and patterns all wrong. I highly suggest checking them out they go above and beyond and they truly sell nothing whatsoever that is inaccurate! Hope you are well- your holster and clothes making friend from Maryland !
There are some folks online who make the "Electric Shirt" as well. I would love a repro of them, but can't justify the cost.
Yup, I have two, A red one and a blue shield front with yellow trim. Like Custer had. I do need a few more though.
Cool!
I've always wanted one in blue. As for valiant and wayward Billy's anchor, along with the top hat, I suspect he liked to dude up as much as a cowhand and small time rustler's wages would allow.
Good bet, Greg.
You rock Santee! Great video brother 😊 and chicks dig it 😂
Thank You! Hope all is well!
Interesting history on those shirts. You did a super job creating the video and I love the Billy the Kid in the flesh. He was funny.
He's talented.
Another video buttoned up and I thought you covered the subject well Santee. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Those shirts always make me think of John Wayne and Robert MItchum in El Dorado. And the Curley Bill.. well bye is always fun. Thanks Santee
Classic
Good job Santee...I did not know this about the bib shirt .
Great!
I bought two of the shield shirts in the 80’s and wore then. I wore mine like the Duke with right top unbuttoned. They were great shirts.
Very cool!
I had my first shield-front shirts custom made for me in 1975, so I was an early adopter. More recently, I was fortunate to purchase some very nice ones from River Junction when they were selling out old stock on eBay. I got them for half price in 3XL which I need. Sorry you missed out. Real shield shape burgundy with blue piping, and forest green with yellow piping which I over-dyed green. Paul said they were not able to restock because the ladies who made the shirts were just not ablate make them anymore. Arthritis I guess. It looks like some people are still making them, but the ones with piping are rare. My favorites are these, but with smile pockets under the shield. Not Old West, but hey.
I think I remember them! They do sound good. Glad you got one.
You really anchored that one.
HA!
I used to have 2 of these. I loved them, but I outgrew them. Need a couple more of them now.
Cool!
Thanks Santee. These shirts are really cool and quite practical. Have you done a video yet about the ubiquitous dollar watch?
Thank You! Not that watch, but I did mention that a large variety of companies made watches for every economic class.
I made one out of red plaid wool (customer wanted that fabric). The store bought pattern
was not made to be a pull over shirt, but had a button up front. Then it was found that he was allergic to wool, so the solution was a navy blue cotton lining. The bib hid the button up shirt front and came out looking very good. I have to say I was sick and tired of making button holes by the time the project finished. It did look good with the bib partly unbuttoned. Should I ever make another one I will go for the pull over pattern !
So neat!
As both an "old westian" who sews, and a volunteer firefighter, I really need to get around to making a red wool bib front shirt. It's criminal that I haven't done so already. Fun fact, the reason firefighters wore them was because the bib prevented sparks and embers from getting inside the shirt.
Yep! Protection all the way, Devin. Now....make that shirt! LOL!
One of the longes vids you have produced ! LOVE IT
Glad you enjoy it!
I plan on getting one. My current outfit is a bit fancier with a pasley red and black vest but I want something that is more blue collar as it were.
Very cool. Enjoy getting and wearing your wardrobe
My favorite one is in black. But I have Bib shirts in red, white and also blue denim.👍
Nice!
Excellent episode Santee! It is a very cool shirt. With all the information you just showed, I just may need to make one. I have made many shirts over the years, but never a bib front. Y'all have a great weekend Pard! Cheers!
Cool!
Yes Sir Santee the Duke did wear it well.🤠🇺🇲
Yep!
Great video Santee, and they learned a new thing on some shirts. That I didn't know we're so popular then.
Right?!
I own two bib shirts and enjoy wearing them. Great info, thanks.
Glad you like them!
Cool idea especially in a time before washing machines. Anchors away my friend. I mean cheers!
HA! Thank You!
I have two bib shirts. I just called them my John Wayne shirts. Now I know some of their history. Thanks.
You're welcome.
Rene' was stunned by your rakish appearance!
I have that affect on wardrobe supervisors.
In Navy lore an anchor represents stability. I don't know if that interpretation would fit the wild west mythology, so I'll go with it looks cool.
I'm with you. I think it might have been a nod to something naval...but that just doesn't fit his character (especially since he wasn't in the Navy).
i love these episodes about clothes! it really helps with picking a good outfit :)
Cool!
Another great episode Santee. Keep em coming.
JT
Thanks, will do!
Well now I want one. Thanks for the great video!
Our pleasure!
Very cool, thanks Santee.
You bet
Always did wonder what the name of that shirt was 👍 maybe one day I’ll get me one. Awesome video as always keep up the awesome work and can’t wait to see the next one.
Thank You!
Never fails I always learn me something new when I watch your videos santee
Glad to help
I love the bib shirts, I have one right now, but need a couple more. I really enjoyed this video,
Appreciated.
I have one in red and one in blue. They are my favorite.
Great!
Very awsomely interestingly informative video, I really liked and enjoyed it, great job and well done, keep up the great work.
I learned alot about frontier bib front shirts from the old west and got a lot of inspiration for my Retro, videogames, computer and old west frontier inspired myths-archive franchise project Mysteriarch Mythos: Pixel Pioneers and the polygon realms.
I already finished the first draft of story #1 of my Mythos project and are now working on writing story #2 and I wrote a couple games for my stories too,that are called Mharzoh VideoLand Ventures 7400 and TetraForce-XelQuest Ventures 7400, that were developed by the company Katori VideoDistributions games Inc back in the year 1993 and released in 1996.
I'm definitely going to add bib front shirts to my stories and world, alongside other clothing from tge old west and clothing from the 70s to the 2000s.
There's a old west frontier island in my storys world called Tabbantha Isle.
Tabbantha Isle? Hmmm....I like that!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thanks.
Today I'm working on writing story #1 of my mythos project and trying to think of a title for story #1 that is already finished.
I'm getting further inspiration from the Japanese mythology, spiritualism and folklore within the legend of zelda series as well as inspiration from the mario franchise especially super mario 64.
I'm planning on adding a scifi fantasy version of samsara and the uroboros symbol to my stories and world, which is a sureal,nonsensical and weird type world with dream logic,video game logic and cartoon logic as tge worlds physics.
Santee another historical video. I always thought in Hollywood movies especially John Wayne wearing them. I never looked that close to Billy the Kid shirt to see bib & anchor. Makes sense history on bib shirt. -Kid Yuma
Cool right?
@@ArizonaGhostriders yes it is, again old west amazing history as for shirts.
Thanks Santee 👍
No problem 👍
Wife got me one last Christmas. Love it.
Good!
... Rakish ! Will be using that one a lot in the next while methinks 🙂
Good!
I think 'rakeish' is definitely a word that should be bought back into common use again. Thaks Santee 😅👍
No doubt!
The bib front is still a great design, and even incorporated into modern comic book superhero costumes like Captain Marvel (the SHAZAM version) and the Ghost Rider (both the cowboy and flaming skull versions).
Oh yeah, that's right!! Just realized this.
@@ArizonaGhostriders that's okay. Thanks to this video, I know what to call them after, oh, 54 years. Thank YOU.
always thought these were pretty cool looking
Yes!
especially because you don't have to waste precious time washing the whole shirt, you can just wash the bib@@ArizonaGhostriders
Right@@rexjolles
Always wondered what they call those. Thanks
Glad to help
The Monkees used a versiion of the western bib shirt for their stage costume on their TV Show. It seemed that Mike Nesmith was a big fan of that style, being from Texas and the costume designer Vincent Dee ran them up in red and blue along with black velvet.
Cool!
You rakish rapscallion did another great episode yet again! Love the bib shirts myself. Nice outfit. 😂
Yay, thank you!
Y'all makin' me feel old. Use to watch the stunt gunfights in Gilbert in the '70's - kinda wondering what ever happened to 'Apache Land Movie Ranch' out toward AJ...
Apacheland burnt down about 2004. They were able to save the Rifleman's barn and the Elvis chapel which are now at the Superstition Mountains museum near Goldfield.
I like wearing mine in the winter
Yeah, that's the time for them (at least in the Southwest).
Excellent job Santee! Will be through old Tucson soon.
Say hi! We gotta get a photo.
@@ArizonaGhostriders are you willing to share what days you are usually there? We should be coming through the area April 21st or somewhere in that ballpark. If not, I understand!
@@MrMiyagi94 Certainly. I'm there Tuesday-Saturday! Come say hi.
The bib shirt was standard wear among cavalrymen. George Custe4 was most likely wearing one the day he died along the bluffs overlooking the Little Bighorn. It was much to hot to be wearing a buckskin jacket though h3 was most definitely wearing buckskin pants.
It wasn't regulation clothing, but soldiers did wear them on the plains.
That was very interesting about the bib shirts. Hey Santee, as you know, mining was a huge part of the old west, what were the miners wearing in the late 1800’S?
THANKS FOR TJIS GREAT EPISODE
Thanks, and I have a video about what the miners and prospectors wore.
@@ArizonaGhostriders yes, thanks I found it
I love bib shirts, have a few of them and it isn't something you see much out here in Saskatchewan (rarely see western stores selling them). Like banded collar shirts, they are different and more interesting than the current basic shirt style we have today. I always wonder if shirts like this went out of fashion or if manufacturers didn't want to make all these multiple styles and people slowly stopped making their own clothes so the current basic style of button shirt just became the standard.
Not exactly sure. Styles change. The pullover went away, too.
Hey Santee, is the bib shirt have any connection to the trap door in the Union suit? Just sayin. Thanks Kindly! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
I dunno!!! Maybe.
Say there Santee, did that BTK feller (D. Gilmore) buy that shirt or did a seamstress make it? If it was a seamstress, is there a link to them?
She made it.
Renee is a full time wardrobe supervisor. If she decides to make these shirts like these outside of work, I will let everyone know.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thank you sir!
When I lived in Cheyenne between 1976 and 1979. My mothers friend was a Taylor in town that did custom shirts. Her name was Lona and her shirts were known as Lona's Originals. During Cheyenne frontier days she set up her booth and sold custom shirts. She would take orders and fill them throughout the year. Her booth normally had hundreds of custom shirts. At the time, her shirts ran 60 to 75 dollars for an off the rack one. And the most expensive I saw was 300.00 for a hand embroidered eagle on the back purchased by Charlie Daniels.
Wow!! That's is pretty neat.
The "Dodge City Cowboy Band?" Interesting!
Oh yes.
So is it just open behind the bib, to the lower part of the bib. With no buttons closing it under it?
It's like a normal pullover shirt with buttons underneath the bib
see you on down the trail pards. --LT
You too!
Having seen many westerns growing up I noticed that it was often worn by the US Cavalry so I thought it was copied from them and was copied as a fashion item as often happens. So thanks for giving me a better idea of its origins.
It was never a shirt the military used in the west, but they were allowed due to their protective abilities.
Thanks for the lesson. I never cared to wear one myself.
I didn't at first, but they really are good looking.
I have seen these stylr shirts worn by New Zealand's in thick woollen material, it gets darn cold there.
I don't doubt that!
Yeah the skeleton made it back!!! Love your mini show Santee!
He shows up from time to time. Mostly when he's not running the camera.
lol That is hilarious
Good @@patsaylor8973
I wonder if you could make them with false ties and bring them back for button-ups, like a cross between a dickie and a clip-on tie, but up front, literally. Maybe even a regular tie. Or maybe underneath a regular tie. You've already got the buttondowns for the collar, and you could use the top button and maybe one above the belt, so we would only need to make double-breasted buttons unaccountably fashionable on shirts, first, so that there could be some standardization of dimensions. I think this is doable.
Interesting idea for sure!
I went through a WahMaker phase when I was in my 20s. Had a bunch of period shirts, but sadly missed out on the bib shirt. Was pretty easy to pull off a banded collar in polite company, but the idea of a Bib shirt made me very self conscious.
Yeah, they aren't for going to the mall in, but for what we do they are perfect.
Always a great channel!
Glad you think so!
I had the idea of making one of these shirts, so...I cut it out, my sister finally sewed it together and then embroidered snakes and cactus on the cuffs and collar. She won a blue ribbon it in in her fair in OK.
Whoah that is so cool!!
I have three of these shirts and always wanted to know what the flap was for. I just bought them because they look cool!
HA! Well, glad to help.
What would you say is the best material for the heat? I'm just honestly curious
Linen or thin cotton in my opinion (and vast experience).
It be cool to have a t shirt with the Billy the Kid type anchor and bib pattern screen printed on the front… 😁
They might make those somewhere.
The guy portraying Billy the Kid is perfect. 🤠
He is!