With the public transit push, why not get it operating and get access to the rail lines too? It's already there, just get it goin. You already have carpool/bus lots in operation on the outskirts, it only makes sense to use the other end of it.
I got walk through the entire tunnel during the grand opening in the 90s. Thought it was cool at the time when I was just a kid. Still remember it every time I drive through there 😁
Why not use it to house homeless people? It would get them out of the hot sun and I’m sure it’s a lot cooler down there. Let’s put all that empty space to use.
How interesting. I'm a Phoenix native but moved in 1990 as construction of the tunnels had just barely started and thus I never heard of this other one They would have needed a lot of ventilation to avoid people being overcome by diesel exhaust fumes from multiple buses under there.
You probably have fonder memories of the Phoenix Valley back then than what you'd see or have in the Phoenix area now. How long did you live in Arizona before you left?
PHX is an evil based city, not the residents but the ones in charge.psy attention to all the symbol( freeway walls, PHX rising snakes, purple lights, etc). Corporations run this place, Scottsdale, Tempe 2
It would be nice to actually use this thing. I’m mad how they abandoned it! We could have had a cool bus station under there or even better run light rail in this.
Honestly they need to run an Elevated track right down I-17's center concerte wall branching off and down to different streets like exits do at the overpasses.
@@TransitAndTeslas Oh interesting I must have missed that. I know they wanted to run it into Glendale (where I live), but the city had some issue with it IIRC going down Glendale Ave. Do you have any links by any chance I can read abou the I-17 plan?
This was a part of the original light rail system that was voted out. The light rail system we have today has been redesigned and did not include this. They originally had a sign posted on the chain lake fence entrance saying future light rail.
I've always known about that tunnel, I've always wondered why they never opened it. But, i did research it years ago and i wished they would have made it a bus depot like they planned years ago, that would have been very cool!
It's a shame they didn't follow through with the bus stop but then again I can only imagine what an extra bottle neck that might cause at an already bad traffic area if busses were trying to merge back onto the freeway from the fast lane.
Native to AZ and I can remember when they built park tunnel and connected I -10 to Phoenix. Before tunnel you had to take Van Buren or Buckeye Rd west about 10 miles to connect with I -10 to get to California. When I was a kid I -17 was the only freeway in Phoenix. It was two lanes north and south bound with orange tree in middle of freeway as a protective barrier, now they use concrete walls, lol.
I-10 was built to 27th avenue or thereabouts and opened early in 1984. The 'Stack' interchange and the section between there and east Phoenix (at the I-17 'split') was the only part of I-10 nationwide that had not been completed - that stretch of I-10 including the Deck Park Tunnel was opened to traffic on August 10, 1990, completing the nationwide interstate.
The residents of Phoenix need to be refunded the money wasted on that part of the tunnel or, Put it to use and I don't mean turn it into a jail either.
For a bus terminal it has to have bathrooms, waiting ares, etc. (In better places even rest-areas, bedrooms for overnight at cut rates - Like it was standard in the USSR)
Yes I definitely know about this lol. I remember asking my parents when we would drive through the tunnel. I would ask them what this was and if we could go inside.
Probably cause of the gate, I assume it's closed and locked usually, I think the place where people are working it mentioned is also probably pretty close.
Since they took out the Central Station City Bus terminal in downtown Phoenix, ADOT can put this into it's attended use as the new Central Bus Station terminal.
It could be a good idea but there'd still need to be a lot of work done to have it ready and safe, plus a way to get them and workers down there safely. I doubt it'll ever happen.
Nope. It is part of the federal highway system and funded largely by the federal government. Plus, it is not a waste because the space could not have been used for extra lanes are there are bridge columns before and after it to support the 3rd Ave and 3rd St HOV exits. Further, infrastructure inside was not built, therefor, not wasting money.
They should have a drive thur Starbucks there. Alot of people dont have time for Starbucks in the morning cause all the traffic, now imagine getting it while on the freeway. And a passthur if the line is too long and you dont wanna wait
Hopefully they locked out the fan before going in front of it!! The fans are likely activated if level of CO in tunnel gets too high, also (in addition to other reasons given).
If they are used, it would not help because they would just re-emerge again. There is no space for them to be used as continuous traffic lanes. Before and after the tunnel are bridges that connect the HOV lanes to 3rd Ave and 3rd St.
You are forgetting about needing to add things like: HVAC , Water , Sewage , actual rooms and all of the other stuff that makes it a habitable space. Are you also taking into account the noise factor?
With the rising heat they could say art making and under ground living and shopping areas parks restaurants living down Winn here working down the e while phoenix gets hotte band hotte we are going to have to do somethings ng in the future or abandoned j the city to one or the other it will come 👎 wn to it maybe in 40 to 50 years phoenix will be too hot to live above ground and und the city might be a totall under ground city. As each year it's hotter and hotter that or move away as thebsurfwce is too unbearable to be but there till night fall if even then just saying esvabstarterboroject roght there to behin with to pearn frok just thinking aheadvand to give u food for thought
That was a very interesting news clip maybe someday redo the whole thing and maybe start from scraps and maybe have a new floor plan in the future just a thought
With the public transit push, why not get it operating and get access to the rail lines too? It's already there, just get it goin. You already have carpool/bus lots in operation on the outskirts, it only makes sense to use the other end of it.
No!
That would be great. It would lessen the traffic burden on the 10
too many car cucks
I got walk through the entire tunnel during the grand opening in the 90s. Thought it was cool at the time when I was just a kid. Still remember it every time I drive through there 😁
Me too!! lol
August 10, 1990.
Me too. Now I feel super old.
My Dad took me for the day it opened and it was all opened to the public before any cars were driven on the freeway
@@TheRealTPain Yeah it was an opening party for people to go down into, traffic started the next day.
I use to always wonder what that was
I thought it was just an area where construction workers have their stuff.
@@Rzo139 same like a giant closet
The amount of tunnel systems across America are amazing.
We have a same thing in Paris under "l'esplanade de la defence" and now they use it as freeway for bicycle it's very convenient during rush hour
That's wild I never noticed it. I will now.
And now we wait for the proof👍🏽
New, "Tunnel Condos" with direct access to the Freeway
Why not use it to house homeless people? It would get them out of the hot sun and I’m sure it’s a lot cooler down there. Let’s put all that empty space to use.
How interesting. I'm a Phoenix native but moved in 1990 as construction of the tunnels had just barely started and thus I never heard of this other one They would have needed a lot of ventilation to avoid people being overcome by diesel exhaust fumes from multiple buses under there.
Do you know how many transit are under ground. Did you miss the part showing all the exhaust fans the remove bad air.
Our buses use CNG not diesel.
You probably have fonder memories of the Phoenix Valley back then than what you'd see or have in the Phoenix area now. How long did you live in Arizona before you left?
@@karilakeforarizonagovernor7908 33+ years
@@naggersdie The exhaust from those busses are still not breathable.
I love Arizona's history and little tidbits of information like this.
PHX is an evil based city, not the residents but the ones in charge.psy attention to all the symbol( freeway walls, PHX rising snakes, purple lights, etc). Corporations run this place, Scottsdale, Tempe 2
It would be nice to actually use this thing. I’m mad how they abandoned it! We could have had a cool bus station under there or even better run light rail in this.
Don`t worry - No one proposed the ridiculous idea of using it as homeless shelter...
@@xres1329 I wouldn’t be surprised at all, after all it is Arizona.
Honestly they need to run an Elevated track right down I-17's center concerte wall branching off and down to different streets like exits do at the overpasses.
@@azmrblack I believe I-17 is the plan if and when we ever get the PV extension.
@@TransitAndTeslas Oh interesting I must have missed that. I know they wanted to run it into Glendale (where I live), but the city had some issue with it IIRC going down Glendale Ave. Do you have any links by any chance I can read abou the I-17 plan?
This was a part of the original light rail system that was voted out. The light rail system we have today has been redesigned and did not include this. They originally had a sign posted on the chain lake fence entrance saying future light rail.
This is false. This was designed way before the light rail and was intended as a bus terminal. It has nothing to do with the rail system above.
Wow! That door onto the freeway...😳
I know right! I always see it and want to jump out real quick and try to see if its open
It would be cool if they could some how make a stop for the light rail there
yeah, i was thinkin that it could be like a potential subway stop if they ever make a subway in phoenix
"REPORTER": it was never used - for a "bunch of reasons."
That shoulve been the focus of the story….what a giant waste!
Visiting this place has been a dream of mine since it was first planned back in the 1980s.
I've always known about that tunnel, I've always wondered why they never opened it. But, i did research it years ago and i wished they would have made it a bus depot like they planned years ago, that would have been very cool!
Or they could just open it for cars. Or parties. Skatepark
It’s shameful that it’s never been finished or incorporated into new transit plans with the light rail
It's a shame they didn't follow through with the bus stop but then again I can only imagine what an extra bottle neck that might cause at an already bad traffic area if busses were trying to merge back onto the freeway from the fast lane.
Native to AZ and I can remember when they built park tunnel and connected I -10 to Phoenix. Before tunnel you had to take Van Buren or Buckeye Rd west about 10 miles to connect with I -10 to get to California.
When I was a kid I -17 was the only freeway in Phoenix. It was two lanes north and south bound with orange tree in middle of freeway as a protective barrier, now they use concrete walls, lol.
I-10 was built to 27th avenue or thereabouts and opened early in 1984. The 'Stack' interchange and the section between there and east Phoenix (at the I-17 'split') was the only part of I-10 nationwide that had not been completed - that stretch of I-10 including the Deck Park Tunnel was opened to traffic on August 10, 1990, completing the nationwide interstate.
The residents of Phoenix need to be refunded the money wasted on that part of the tunnel or, Put it to use and I don't mean turn it into a jail either.
You're right, it would make a good jail
I thought it was gonna be a homeless camp.
Homeless with cars, thats a perfect sleeping stop.
Not a Starbucks 😂😂😂
For a bus terminal it has to have bathrooms, waiting ares, etc. (In better places even rest-areas, bedrooms for overnight at cut rates - Like it was standard in the USSR)
Hence the need for escalators.
um yea?
It's a waste of space. Why wasn't it used?
Did you watch the video?
@@rahundsigma it’s a woman what do you expect..
@@DirkadewWhat does being a woman have to do with it??
My first thought was “my motorcycle will fit though those cones 😂
Yes I definitely know about this lol. I remember asking my parents when we would drive through the tunnel. I would ask them what this was and if we could go inside.
I’ve been waiting to catch a train there since I was a teenager. I’m in my 50s now.
This is how you waste my tax.....
I am surprised that homeless people don't live in there.
Probably cause of the gate, I assume it's closed and locked usually, I think the place where people are working it mentioned is also probably pretty close.
Okay but that Starbucks idea is so good 💀😂😂
Every1 missed the hidden tunnel cuz they always looking at the phone going over 90mph..az is paradise
They could open it up as an extra lane through the tunnel in case of accident or blockage of the main travel lanes.
Since they took out the Central Station City Bus terminal in downtown Phoenix, ADOT can put this into it's attended use as the new Central Bus Station terminal.
Positive news. :) Liked that one.
How is a giant waste of tax payer dollars positive? Uhm…. Wake up!
Waste of money.
I suppose the light rail makes that bus station moot. Seems cool though.
Light tail useless
I watched this tunnel being built and attended the grand opening ceremony. I knew about the tunnel and what it was going to be.
How bout put the homeless ppl in there 🤔
It could be a good idea but there'd still need to be a lot of work done to have it ready and safe, plus a way to get them and workers down there safely. I doubt it'll ever happen.
I’m driving there as I’m typing this finna take some cool pictures or get arrested 📸
Cap
They might as well turn it into the bus depot it was supposed to be.
No way! I used to work by Margaret T Hance Park. I always wondered where all the vents in the park led to.
Is it possible to break through the tunnel walls and add another lane or two? The tunnel itself is so outdated and undersized now
So what are we gone do with the tunnel????? Use or what...
Driving by there thousands of times. Was curious what it was for.
Was interview by him in 09 when he came to my ship USS Abraham Lincoln for a memorial day wish i had the interview
In other words, The city wasted millions of taxpayer money for nothing!
With big bonuses passed out to select few
Nope. It is part of the federal highway system and funded largely by the federal government. Plus, it is not a waste because the space could not have been used for extra lanes are there are bridge columns before and after it to support the 3rd Ave and 3rd St HOV exits. Further, infrastructure inside was not built, therefor, not wasting money.
Very interesting 👌. Valley of the sun 🌞
Native to Arizona the underground tunnels, caves, homes, etc., especially in Phoenix are something else.
well there no homeless people living in there like you see in Las Vegas.
Cool. This was on the news.
They should have a drive thur Starbucks there. Alot of people dont have time for Starbucks in the morning cause all the traffic, now imagine getting it while on the freeway. And a passthur if the line is too long and you dont wanna wait
Now all of the drug addicted tent dwellers will start living in there... should have kept it a secret...
I’d love to go inside and check it out…so interesting!!
Well we’re not even allowed to go in it so how would we even go in ??
Hopefully they locked out the fan before going in front of it!! The fans are likely activated if level of CO in tunnel gets too high, also (in addition to other reasons given).
But I bet they got paid for a complete job
Put homeless housing in the tunnel
Wow I’m a native and I’ve always seen this and knew there was something hiding back there.
I notice you didn't cover how much that building mistake cost taxpayers.
Unfortunately things did not turn out the way the politicians wanted it or ADOT but it cost the taxpayers it is wasted area it's really unfortunate
I remember being told about this as a kid
Didn't they used to have a sign there that said future light rail station
Yes, I remember the sign.
One thing missing, where were the escalators supposed to come out on top?
I been through the deck tunnel
So that’s where all the zombies went
I can dir in peace now
Lies that’s the road for the higher classes
and i gotta skate in the mf sun 🙃
I thought everyone had heard about this
this isnt news its olds
They should use it for a drive thru Starbucks.
If we ever get an electric vehicle with an interchangeable battery packs, could turn it into a battery swapping station
Interesting 🤔
I forgot about this.
technically the deck park tunnel isn't a tunnel. it's a bridge.
Technically it isn't a bridge, it's 17 bridges side-by-side.
Interesting.. thxs!
Having an extra four lanes just sitting there when the I-10 is back to back with traffic almost all day is wild
If they are used, it would not help because they would just re-emerge again. There is no space for them to be used as continuous traffic lanes. Before and after the tunnel are bridges that connect the HOV lanes to 3rd Ave and 3rd St.
I remember going there as a kid lol
Very cool.
Amazing, the city of phoenix could build a huge shelter and rehabilitation center there but the storage space is more important.
You are forgetting about needing to add things like: HVAC , Water , Sewage , actual rooms and all of the other stuff that makes it a habitable space. Are you also taking into account the noise factor?
its obviously used to store construction equipment.
Terminal 4 has a subway station in the basement.
There's a basement in terminal 4 with a subway station have you been in there and how do you get to it
It would be perfect as a light rail station
I know about all of the tunnels that are downtown because my dad helped build them
SECRET TUNNEL!!
It's lost video game content irl!
Always wondered what that was
We're are the subways
.
With the rising heat they could say art making and under ground living and shopping areas parks restaurants living down Winn here working down the e while phoenix gets hotte band hotte we are going to have to do somethings ng in the future or abandoned j the city to one or the other it will come 👎 wn to it maybe in 40 to 50 years phoenix will be too hot to live above ground and und the city might be a totall under ground city. As each year it's hotter and hotter that or move away as thebsurfwce is too unbearable to be but there till night fall if even then just saying esvabstarterboroject roght there to behin with to pearn frok just thinking aheadvand to give u food for thought
Lol always wondered where that went.
They should make it into an hov lane
Should shoot movie seens,seems, money on cop action shows.
I am surprised it isn't full of homeless people
Ending of this video with the newscasters was so cringey 🫠
That was a very interesting news clip maybe someday redo the whole thing and maybe start from scraps and maybe have a new floor plan in the future just a thought
Massive WASTE
Damm Doug got old.
Open it up
This video is fake , The I 10 tunnel is always a parking lot .
Homeless camps could use that space
Starbucks and bookstore