Spencer Danielson confirmed this recently at a BSU press conference. Said Madsen is running the blue team (1st team) and Nelson is running the orange team (2nd team).
@@BroncoBleymaier I've always loved watching Madsen, and I definitely think he has a good shot at being QB1, it'll be interesting to see what happens as the summer progresses :)
I can see how he beat out Malachi now, holy cow this kid has a good iq and is really accurate into tight windows. Im so excited to see what he looks like under Danielson and Koetter
@RIPJimmyA7X have you been able to watch him this year at all or are you basing off last season? I'm excited to see how he's progressed since last year.
I like the quick release. Great footwork. Good wheels to move the chains. The balls to charge for the line to gain. He aint scared. Knows the playbook and how to spread the ball around. This seems like a tight knit team thats rallied around the QB. I'm a old timer down in Tennessee and I need yall to whoop Georgia Southern by two touchdown preshate it. 🙏
Maddux has great vision, anticipation, and a quick release. Malachi will have to earn it to take the starting job (just like he was told when he agreed to come here).
@@MikeHawkBurns208 Madsen was a 3 star, and also star rating out of high school means nothing. Clemson was starting a walk on WR over 5 stars and he ended up in the league
Boise State obviously needs to start the best Quarterback and never touch a 2 QB system. But I really hope it’s Nelson that wins. I can’t imagine the outrage from casual fans and I don’t think it will be good for fan support. But obviously if we win games the fans will come and support. (Or even if we lose games considering we broke the attendance record in one of our worse seasons)
I do believe that ultimately Nelson will win out but it will be very, very close. An absolute dead heat till the last couple weeks or Fall Ball and it could go either way. Would be excited to see either QB out there but agree it should only be 1.
I'm no expert at all. However, it does seem Maddux throws into heavy/ risky coverage while having an open man up the middle or check down. I understand they have reads, etc, but he appears to be high risk, high reward. Meaning, he'll likely have more INT than what we're used to seeing from our QB, but he'll also make some highlight reel throws. It all depends on whether the coaches want a game manager or a gunslinger. I'm excited either way for the season. I'm grateful for all their hard work in preparing while attending school simultaneously.
A. He was a freshman so he still occasionally made some freshman mistakes with his reads. He’s now a sophomore with experience and will be better B. The circumstances he was in (late in the game down 2 scores, or third and long and in obvious passing situations) necessitated throwing into coverage that he may not otherwise have wanted to. Also doing that consistently would build habit patterns that would need to be unlearned and luckily he’s had a whole fall camp to do so. However, as you can see by watching the highlights he often took the check down (especially in the Memphis game) or the open read short across the middle and the amount of times he actually threw into coverage gets blown out of proportion.
@BroncoBleymaier That is a fair point and would account. Don't get me wrong, he's an amazing athlete. With another year under his belt and developing his skill set, he's probably much improved in seeing the field and decision making.
@@BroncoBleymaieranyone mad Nelson didn’t win the job doesn’t get that Malachi had every opportunity to win it and must have been awful because maddux isn’t bad but Malachi talent should have won him the job playing average
Would you make a video about the G5 playoff proposal that seems to get more and more likely by the day. I HATE IT. But also if it is what happens we (and all other g5 fans) need to embrace it.
I made a video talking about this when it first came up several months ago which you can watch here: m.th-cam.com/video/TuFIegNG5-M/w-d-xo.html I have wanted to make another video reacting to the recent news of the G5 Top 25 coaches poll and the increased interest in a G5 playoff but unfortunately just haven’t had the time with my schedule. I still want to but I will have to see it I can sit down and do it or not
@@BroncoBleymaier My stance on a G5 playoff: I will admit that after watching some P4 propaganda (lol) I wouldn’t be as pissed off as I would 3 weeks ago. 1. Ideally there is no split. 2. If we’re going to split we need to reevaluate which teams are P4 and split based simply on how good the teams are at football. (No media market or historical teams like Vandy). 3. A compromise I would be willing to make is to have the 2 highest ranked G5 champions play a game for the CFP spot. (You can move the G5 conf champs 1 week up). A Liberty vs SMU game for a playoff spot this year would have been fun to watch. (Boise State plays that game 3 times in the CFP era 2014 vs Marshall, 2017 vs UCF, and 2019 vs Memphis). 3. If the playoff gets passed in whatever form and includes Boise State we as fans (of BSU and the other G5’s) must embrace it as the new reality and support it passionately.
Madsen is an amazing competitor and a leader. No one can take that away from him. I am a Maddux Madsen fan. He's just not the guy. If he starts then it means that Nelson was either not ready or not talented enough to beat him out which is a huge let down. Maddux's ceiling is an average starter for an average MWC program or a premium backup for a G5 team vying for the playoff. He has a weaker arm, but can get by against some MWC defenses, especially with our offensive line and RB's. He is accurate when he has a clean pocket and relies on touch. However better competition, which we will face this season, will make those passes look like ducks. Against UO, WSU, OSU, and perhaps an improved SDSU & UNLV those near misses turn to picks. Pressure has forced Madsen to make his best runs and worst throws. That point is not exclusive to Maddux. However the amount of near misses he had last season was far to much for comfort. Decision making was questionable at times to say the least. My question to anyone watching is: were there any throws in this highlight video that were anything above the level of expectations for a starting quarterback at Boise State? I can rewatch, I'd be happy to...but most of those were throws you are expected to make at that level. If you go watch a Vanderbilt or Boston College game you'll see their QB make similar throws. To put it in baseball terms, he's a replacement level player. He has guts. Which converted a few 4th downs. They also caused a torn ligament. He has experience sure and I believe that if he had of played against UCLA we would have won that game. Because all we needed was a QB who meet expectations for simple throws. Love Tiller, but he wasn't able to play at that level yet. If Madsen is the starter then our ceiling is 8 wins.
He was a Freshman with no playing experience and being continually undercut by the system and he made the throws in the video. Those throws and the consistency are not what you expect from a Freshman QB. He has a solid arm and high accuracy and his decision making under pressure is elite. That is why he is currently leading the QB competition. Does Nelson have a higher ceiling? Absolutely. Is he going to develop to the point to truly untap that potential by the start of the season? Maybe, but it shouldn’t be expected. Nelson’s obvious athletic potential makes him a strong contender for the starting job but Madsen’s demonstrated consistent play and high decision making combined with his valuable experience makes him also a very strong contender. It will come down to the wire but Nelson not winning the job doesn’t demonstrate a failure on his part, it shows the strength and caliber of Madsen. Nelson came here to be developed, he will start when he is ready.
He had a few plays that could have been picks, like every QB. That’s part of playing the position, TG also had a lot of near picks and so will Nelson if he starts. What matters is what actually happened. Nobody counts “almost picks.”
@@BroncoBleymaier look at his play as a player not as a fan. I played db in college and would have feasted on him. He's a back up qb. It's cool to like players but if you want to be able to compete and pull top recruits you gotta play them.
None of the tape backs up your statements. Even in his worst game vs Fresno he had no more than 3 balls that could have been picked and only 2 of them were obvious and that was not representative of his play throughout the season. Also to note there were 4 100% dropped balls by WRs including 1 which could have been a TD. It’s great that you played DB in college, that’s a fantastic accomplishment, however it doesn’t have anything to do with our discussion at hand which is about the facts and the evidence of the film. I just sat down and watched every single throw from Madsen this past season and nothing you are saying is accurate.
1. TGs highlights are better 2. the whole fanbase will be disappointed if Malachi isnt the starter, they dont give top 15 rankings in recuiting classes to just anyone. MM wont give us what MN can 3. MM isnt the guy that can take us through the grueling schedule of 2024 or make a playoff run. All you did with this video is show us that. You inluded a 7 yard dump off over the middle that wasnt even a 1st down. You know nothing 4. why would Malachi come here to sit out a year or two to get developed, he could have done that at USC that has more to offer 5. youre admiration for MM is weird, i get liking a player but youre a straight up cheerleader
1. TG’s overall performance last year was in fact not better which is why he was constantly replaced by MM 2. What does the fan base’s preference have to do with who’s the best QB for the job? 3. The short pass across the middle was to demonstrate the range of his throwing ability and the fact that the lineman height doesn’t impact his ability to names all the passes. However your overall point here on this one makes 0 sense😂😂 It was a successful play, and the right play that showed him going through his reads, that set Boise up for an easy conversion, how does that prove he can’t take BSU through a grueling schedule? It doesn’t matter who starts at QB between Maddux and Nelson because the success of the offense will rely on Jeanty, BSU just needs stability and ball security from the QB position to find success. 4. Malachi came here because of Boise’s culture and to be developed into an NFL caliber QB. He wasn’t getting that at USC, he wasn’t a priority. He is at BSU and he will get the development he needs to be an eventual starter whenever that is. Blue Collar means you earn your place, nothing is given and that’s what Nelson wants. 5. I’m a cheerleader of facts, Maddux has earned my admiration as he should have the entire fanbase’s with his performance last season. I will do what I can to ensure he gets the credit he deserves as I will any player who’s performance deserves to be highlighted
I'm part of the fan base and I'll be happy if Maddog wins it, so you're wrong there. Also, I believe he can win us a Natty. Either way, I trust Spencer and Dirk. The best man will get the job and I'm ok with that 👌.
@BroncoBleymaier I swear you're the worst thing to happen to the fanbase since Andy😂😂😂 you literally put every positive yard play from last year into this "highlight" reel. If Malachi who hasnt played a lick is competing with the qb you so adore what does that say about MM? I have zero confidence in winning anymore than 9-10 games with mm
@BroncoBleymaier MM has two-ish years of college playing under his belt. Malachi has zero. If it's neck and neck what does that say about MM? You can ignore it if you want, the question is still there, you're the one being biased. MN potential is exponential. In no world does a 3 star triumph and 5 star sorry. We saw malachi sling the ball. He has size, well be okay. I'll be thinking of you when they announce the starter for week one.
Lmfao dude isnt even tall enough to ride the rides at the fair but hey lets start him over a 6 foot 3 five star QB. And people wonder why the team has fallen off
Current reporting has Maddux Madsen ahead in the QB battle at Boise State. Do you think he will win it?
Wait no way! Maddux ahead of Malachi? Honestly love to see it out of the dawggg
Spencer Danielson confirmed this recently at a BSU press conference. Said Madsen is running the blue team (1st team) and Nelson is running the orange team (2nd team).
@@BroncoBleymaier I've always loved watching Madsen, and I definitely think he has a good shot at being QB1, it'll be interesting to see what happens as the summer progresses :)
@hunterwalp3944 💯
I do. From what Bolt was saying, it sounds like Madsen knows the playback inside and out.
I can see how he beat out Malachi now, holy cow this kid has a good iq and is really accurate into tight windows. Im so excited to see what he looks like under Danielson and Koetter
Definitely a competitor that spends a lot of time studying the game. Reminds me of Kellen Moore in that sense. Excited for his future
@@BroncoBleymaier that's exactly what Chris Petersen has said too, alot of his throws and anticipation are Kellen esque
@RIPJimmyA7X have you been able to watch him this year at all or are you basing off last season? I'm excited to see how he's progressed since last year.
I like the quick release. Great footwork. Good wheels to move the chains. The balls to charge for the line to gain. He aint scared. Knows the playbook and how to spread the ball around. This seems like a tight knit team thats rallied around the QB. I'm a old timer down in Tennessee and I need yall to whoop Georgia Southern by two touchdown preshate it. 🙏
We’ll see what we can do 😉
Maddux has great vision, anticipation, and a quick release. Malachi will have to earn it to take the starting job (just like he was told when he agreed to come here).
💯 Just ridiculous how many fans don’t get that
@@BroncoBleymaierAgreed! Blows my mind some of the comments!!! From what I’ve seen Maddux can spin it!
@@BroncoBleymaierno what is ridiculous is starting a 5 foot 6 one star QB over a 6 foot 3 five star QB 😂😂😂
@@MikeHawkBurns208 Madsen was a 3 star, and also star rating out of high school means nothing. Clemson was starting a walk on WR over 5 stars and he ended up in the league
OH my goodness I can't wait
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Boise State obviously needs to start the best Quarterback and never touch a 2 QB system.
But I really hope it’s Nelson that wins. I can’t imagine the outrage from casual fans and I don’t think it will be good for fan support. But obviously if we win games the fans will come and support. (Or even if we lose games considering we broke the attendance record in one of our worse seasons)
I also think the loser of the QB battle transfers out next season which wouldn’t be a problem if we have our guy
If Nelson loses this year I don’t think he transfers. He came here to be developed and he will start when he is ready.
I do believe that ultimately Nelson will win out but it will be very, very close. An absolute dead heat till the last couple weeks or Fall Ball and it could go either way. Would be excited to see either QB out there but agree it should only be 1.
I was just analyzing his run at 7:30... he totally used that ref as a blocker 😅
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I'm no expert at all. However, it does seem Maddux throws into heavy/ risky coverage while having an open man up the middle or check down. I understand they have reads, etc, but he appears to be high risk, high reward. Meaning, he'll likely have more INT than what we're used to seeing from our QB, but he'll also make some highlight reel throws. It all depends on whether the coaches want a game manager or a gunslinger. I'm excited either way for the season. I'm grateful for all their hard work in preparing while attending school simultaneously.
A. He was a freshman so he still occasionally made some freshman mistakes with his reads. He’s now a sophomore with experience and will be better
B. The circumstances he was in (late in the game down 2 scores, or third and long and in obvious passing situations) necessitated throwing into coverage that he may not otherwise have wanted to. Also doing that consistently would build habit patterns that would need to be unlearned and luckily he’s had a whole fall camp to do so. However, as you can see by watching the highlights he often took the check down (especially in the Memphis game) or the open read short across the middle and the amount of times he actually threw into coverage gets blown out of proportion.
@BroncoBleymaier That is a fair point and would account. Don't get me wrong, he's an amazing athlete. With another year under his belt and developing his skill set, he's probably much improved in seeing the field and decision making.
Love Madsen!! He’s a baller!!
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He really is. Sane people will not argue that.
@@wapiti128I'm sane and will argue it. Madsen sucks 😂😂😂
@@MikeHawkBurns208 Look at his stats from last year before you open your mouth. What was his qb rating? 155? You think that sucks? Drugs are bad!
Longer throws he makes are almost never over the middle
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Maddog is an absolute gamer and a competitor. He lays it all out there every single play
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Preach! Lets hope he stays healthy!
He has to literally give it his all to deliver that ball at his size. We're so done and the season isnt even here yet
If he makes the throws why does it matter how he throws it 😂
FACTS. But hey let's just support this decision cause that what the so called fans say we should do 😂😂😂
True, can't throw deep. All the defense has to do is press the receivers. And we are toast.
@skylarstephens3545 you just not watch the New Mexico game…?
@@BroncoBleymaieranyone mad Nelson didn’t win the job doesn’t get that Malachi had every opportunity to win it and must have been awful because maddux isn’t bad but Malachi talent should have won him the job playing average
I actually met him in real life
Yeah he’s awesome! Great kid, great attitude, and great competitive spirit!
@@BroncoBleymaier yeah, I met him at a football camp
Would you make a video about the G5 playoff proposal that seems to get more and more likely by the day. I HATE IT. But also if it is what happens we (and all other g5 fans) need to embrace it.
I made a video talking about this when it first came up several months ago which you can watch here: m.th-cam.com/video/TuFIegNG5-M/w-d-xo.html
I have wanted to make another video reacting to the recent news of the G5 Top 25 coaches poll and the increased interest in a G5 playoff but unfortunately just haven’t had the time with my schedule. I still want to but I will have to see it I can sit down and do it or not
@@BroncoBleymaier My stance on a G5 playoff: I will admit that after watching some P4 propaganda (lol) I wouldn’t be as pissed off as I would 3 weeks ago.
1. Ideally there is no split.
2. If we’re going to split we need to reevaluate which teams are P4 and split based simply on how good the teams are at football. (No media market or historical teams like Vandy).
3. A compromise I would be willing to make is to have the 2 highest ranked G5 champions play a game for the CFP spot. (You can move the G5 conf champs 1 week up). A Liberty vs SMU game for a playoff spot this year would have been fun to watch. (Boise State plays that game 3 times in the CFP era 2014 vs Marshall, 2017 vs UCF, and 2019 vs Memphis).
3. If the playoff gets passed in whatever form and includes Boise State we as fans (of BSU and the other G5’s) must embrace it as the new reality and support it passionately.
@scottyclayton2501 a separate G5 playoff spells the end of the G5
Madsen is an amazing competitor and a leader. No one can take that away from him. I am a Maddux Madsen fan. He's just not the guy.
If he starts then it means that Nelson was either not ready or not talented enough to beat him out which is a huge let down. Maddux's ceiling is an average starter for an average MWC program or a premium backup for a G5 team vying for the playoff. He has a weaker arm, but can get by against some MWC defenses, especially with our offensive line and RB's. He is accurate when he has a clean pocket and relies on touch. However better competition, which we will face this season, will make those passes look like ducks. Against UO, WSU, OSU, and perhaps an improved SDSU & UNLV those near misses turn to picks.
Pressure has forced Madsen to make his best runs and worst throws. That point is not exclusive to Maddux. However the amount of near misses he had last season was far to much for comfort. Decision making was questionable at times to say the least. My question to anyone watching is: were there any throws in this highlight video that were anything above the level of expectations for a starting quarterback at Boise State? I can rewatch, I'd be happy to...but most of those were throws you are expected to make at that level. If you go watch a Vanderbilt or Boston College game you'll see their QB make similar throws. To put it in baseball terms, he's a replacement level player.
He has guts. Which converted a few 4th downs. They also caused a torn ligament. He has experience sure and I believe that if he had of played against UCLA we would have won that game. Because all we needed was a QB who meet expectations for simple throws. Love Tiller, but he wasn't able to play at that level yet. If Madsen is the starter then our ceiling is 8 wins.
He was a Freshman with no playing experience and being continually undercut by the system and he made the throws in the video. Those throws and the consistency are not what you expect from a Freshman QB. He has a solid arm and high accuracy and his decision making under pressure is elite. That is why he is currently leading the QB competition. Does Nelson have a higher ceiling? Absolutely. Is he going to develop to the point to truly untap that potential by the start of the season? Maybe, but it shouldn’t be expected. Nelson’s obvious athletic potential makes him a strong contender for the starting job but Madsen’s demonstrated consistent play and high decision making combined with his valuable experience makes him also a very strong contender. It will come down to the wire but Nelson not winning the job doesn’t demonstrate a failure on his part, it shows the strength and caliber of Madsen. Nelson came here to be developed, he will start when he is ready.
Wow we did not have a great year last year even with this guy huh?
The one reason last year and the 2 years prior wasn’t great is no longer with the team. Excited for 2024!! 🔥🔥🦾
Qb1
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Not talent wise 😂😂😂😂
That was hard to watch.
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Dbs bailed him out of throwing a ton a picks. I think he's way over rated. It shouldn't even be a competition between him and Nelson
He had a few plays that could have been picks, like every QB. That’s part of playing the position, TG also had a lot of near picks and so will Nelson if he starts. What matters is what actually happened. Nobody counts “almost picks.”
@@BroncoBleymaier a few?? He's lucky he didn't average 4 plus picks a game. We didn't bring in a 5 star transfer to sit behind a bench qb.
@user-zd9ex7xs4v you have no idea what you are talking about 🤷🏻♂️
@@BroncoBleymaier look at his play as a player not as a fan. I played db in college and would have feasted on him. He's a back up qb. It's cool to like players but if you want to be able to compete and pull top recruits you gotta play them.
None of the tape backs up your statements. Even in his worst game vs Fresno he had no more than 3 balls that could have been picked and only 2 of them were obvious and that was not representative of his play throughout the season. Also to note there were 4 100% dropped balls by WRs including 1 which could have been a TD. It’s great that you played DB in college, that’s a fantastic accomplishment, however it doesn’t have anything to do with our discussion at hand which is about the facts and the evidence of the film. I just sat down and watched every single throw from Madsen this past season and nothing you are saying is accurate.
1. TGs highlights are better
2. the whole fanbase will be disappointed if Malachi isnt the starter, they dont give top 15 rankings in recuiting classes to just anyone. MM wont give us what MN can
3. MM isnt the guy that can take us through the grueling schedule of 2024 or make a playoff run. All you did with this video is show us that. You inluded a 7 yard dump off over the middle that wasnt even a 1st down. You know nothing
4. why would Malachi come here to sit out a year or two to get developed, he could have done that at USC that has more to offer
5. youre admiration for MM is weird, i get liking a player but youre a straight up cheerleader
1. TG’s overall performance last year was in fact not better which is why he was constantly replaced by MM
2. What does the fan base’s preference have to do with who’s the best QB for the job?
3. The short pass across the middle was to demonstrate the range of his throwing ability and the fact that the lineman height doesn’t impact his ability to names all the passes. However your overall point here on this one makes 0 sense😂😂 It was a successful play, and the right play that showed him going through his reads, that set Boise up for an easy conversion, how does that prove he can’t take BSU through a grueling schedule? It doesn’t matter who starts at QB between Maddux and Nelson because the success of the offense will rely on Jeanty, BSU just needs stability and ball security from the QB position to find success.
4. Malachi came here because of Boise’s culture and to be developed into an NFL caliber QB. He wasn’t getting that at USC, he wasn’t a priority. He is at BSU and he will get the development he needs to be an eventual starter whenever that is. Blue Collar means you earn your place, nothing is given and that’s what Nelson wants.
5. I’m a cheerleader of facts, Maddux has earned my admiration as he should have the entire fanbase’s with his performance last season. I will do what I can to ensure he gets the credit he deserves as I will any player who’s performance deserves to be highlighted
I'm part of the fan base and I'll be happy if Maddog wins it, so you're wrong there. Also, I believe he can win us a Natty. Either way, I trust Spencer and Dirk. The best man will get the job and I'm ok with that 👌.
@BroncoBleymaier I swear you're the worst thing to happen to the fanbase since Andy😂😂😂 you literally put every positive yard play from last year into this "highlight" reel. If Malachi who hasnt played a lick is competing with the qb you so adore what does that say about MM? I have zero confidence in winning anymore than 9-10 games with mm
@AP-wm6en
😂😂 keep living in your false misconceptions and bias if you want to. 🤷🏻♂️
@BroncoBleymaier MM has two-ish years of college playing under his belt. Malachi has zero. If it's neck and neck what does that say about MM? You can ignore it if you want, the question is still there, you're the one being biased. MN potential is exponential. In no world does a 3 star triumph and 5 star sorry. We saw malachi sling the ball. He has size, well be okay. I'll be thinking of you when they announce the starter for week one.
Lmfao dude isnt even tall enough to ride the rides at the fair but hey lets start him over a 6 foot 3 five star QB. And people wonder why the team has fallen off