As someone who lives in WA, it was fantastic to hear some of Ray's insights and also gives me hope that we may not be the 'Wait Awhile' state for much longer... we might actually be on the right track! Thanks for a great interview from such an animated and interesting individual.
Yeah totally. While watching this i was keen to see more of him, checked the description in the off chance he had his own TH-cam channel or something (aww no such luck). wait... i just checked, he does indeed have a TH-cam channel with interviews etc it's *@ProfRayWills* . There's not many vids, but i notice he's keeping a playlist updated with interviews hosted on other channels (this interview is already on it haha).
What a brilliant interview. Thank you both for the top quality information and insights. Presently upgrading our 5kW of PV to 8.5kW here in NZ and discovering I'm ahead of the tech in terms of aiming for V2G for storage potential. Ray's comments in that regard are definitely food for thought.
What a fascinating chap. Well, two of 'em. Great conversation, gents. Intelligent optimistic and your enthusiasms shines through. Keep up the top work.
That was absolutely fascinating. Can't believe I missed it until now. I think I started listening when it firat came out but got totally distracted. Anyway, so glad to finish viewing. It was like an Australian distillation of the practical of today and visionary future of Tony Seba. Brilliant. More please. EDIT: Oh yes, and there was that moment where Prof Ray was struggling with the term "Precision Fermentation", and Robert came up with it because he'd recently interviewed Tony Seba who named the term himself. That ticked another box. 👍
Robert you are a coordinated Billy Connelly, on energy. Never stop talking, many topics and interesting people. Most importantly lively and entertaining. Thanks to you(and your team) I have relevant uncorrupted information. P.s. please interview so one from the RMI Institute on efficiency.
Great discussion… and so many valid points discussed. We have a fabulous 3.5 year old Model 3, about 8kW of solar on the roof, and about 27kWh of battery storage, in hot and Sunny Queensland, and yes - efficient air conditioning and a fairly well insulated (old) house with a cool, white colorbond roof, which replaced a hot, totally uninsulated tile roof. With all that, we still export lots of energy, and could very easily disconnect from the grid. (I’d rather export excess energy rather than waste it.) I’d actually like to install more solar and will likely do so soon. (You can’t have too much solar or battery.)
Looking at upping ours close to 10kW, adding a battery around 10kWh (enough for our evening/night usage plus a bit of buffer). I wish we had an option to replace our Everest with electric, but it'll come. Also did a nice Surfmist colourbond roof when we renovated, haven't fully insulated the old part of the house but it's not too bad.
Ray I would like your opinion about the economics of roof top solar used to replace gasoline. For example a 6.5/5 kw system will generate 180,000 kilowatts over 20 years. That's enough to power 2 EVS for 20 years or about 1.3 million klms in total. I worked it out to be 4 times better economically to replace gasoline than to substitute grid electricity for the home. Based on a Tesla 3 vs a Subaru Forester or Camry.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Of course but my point here is this. An investment in roof top solar is only ever looked at as a replacement for grid electricity. In this case using it to replace gasoline instead of grid electricity would mean it is possible to pay the array off in 1 year instead of 4. In the case of a Subaru Forester vs a Tesla Model Y the 10 year saving in gasoline is $33,000 ( $35,000 cost for gas at $1.80 per litre vs $1750 for roof top solar at 5 cents per kw). If all of that energy replaced peak grid at 28 cents, here is Sydney, then that is only a potential saving of $9000. Everyone should know this.
The Waymo brings home the fact that it's unmanned (no driver) which is the ultimate goal, albeit in a ring fenced environment. Tesla works in real situational driving environments with all its variations to some degree, Waymo passed the destination and did a u turn (bad and good). Waymo looks like a moon probe with it's sensors all over the car, while Tesla's tech is discreetly distributed within the vehicles form. They are both getting better but I feel the random events we all encounter during our journeys day to day are the real test, construction work, emergency vehicles, pot holes, other drivers breaking the rules casually, (rolling through stop signs) all need to be solved before autonomous vehicles can be released.
WOW - Love these podcasts. but this one blew me away... It had not crossed my mind to put batteries & motors onto trailers & caravans!!! I mean, that in itself is totally mindblowing. Most large cravans already have large leisure batteries AND 2 motors driving the wheels (for manhandling at the park!). so, not really a lot to change there. - Imagine a Car/Caravan combo, that could potentiall drive over 1000 miles, WITHOUT charging on-route or requiring any electrical hookup on-site!! - I see this as a complete Game Changer As an Electrician, I've been looking into the future problems for places like caravan parks? But in one short comment - that problem has gone away ;-) Just think, an EV towing a battery - You just don't need the powerfull hookup I have been looking at. In fact, with regen braking on 2,4,6, 8 wheels, you may never need to charge again?? I think I'll be looking into this a bit more seriously now... #Blue_Wizzard
Thanks, that was a great interview. I went vegan 2 years ago because of health reasons. Since that time I have learnt of the energy conversion ratios of meat production. On average 20 calories of plants converts to 1 calorie of beef. Chicken is a bit better at 10:1. Lab grown meat has the potential to be much better at 2:1. Yay, apart from feeling healthier my diet is a 1:1 conversion ratio. 60% of all cropping lands is to feed food animals. If people just reduced their animal protein intake by half the freed up cropping land could be used for biofuels for aircraft or rewilded as wildlife refuges. Please eat less meat for the planet!!
LFP batteries have a usable life of 5,000 to 12,000 full charge/discharge cycles. In a 250 mile range EV at only 5,000 cycles that's 1.25 million miles. Removed from a worn out EV body the batteries can be used for grid storage and their life will likely be extended past 5k cycles as they will no longer be in a moving/bouncing vehicle. And at least 95% of the materials can be recovered and reused (Redwood Materials).
However, it's quite possible that at "end of vehicle battery life" it's better to simply recycle the material into a *more efficient* "new tech" battery cell at ±16% the cost of newly mined material? . That material may then surpass it's original "100%, old tech" rating in the new cell?
@@rogerstarkey5390 IIRC Sandy Munro stated that LFP battery packs should settle in at about $50/kWh. $30 for materials, $10 for manufacturing cells. and $10 for putting cells into pack. That $20 for manufacturing and packaging could be spread over far more cycles if the batteries are given a second use life. It would bring down the overall cost of owning an EV if the value of the battery pack was higher than simply the recovered material value.
@@bobwallace9753 But of that $80 total, the reduction to 16% material cost ($5) would make the new cell 30% cheaper $80-$25 and the new cell would regain the 20% efficiency lost, plus any gain from the new technology. Even if that's only 10%, the new cell would have a total efficient gain of +30%. Compounding those gains per kWh would yield ($80x 70%) x 70%. An effective cost of $45/kWh
@@rogerstarkey5390 It's a total of $50. $30 for materials, $20 for manufacturing. Think about overall cost this way. If you buy a new shirt and wear it until it's reached the end of its useful life that shirt will have saved you money. You've spread the manufacturing cost part of the purchase price over more years/hours worn.
"think of it this way".... If the cell cost is $50 and the material cost $30 that makes the case for recycling even more compelling. Taking that $30 down to 16% still leaves it at ±$5, then adding the "manufacturing" of $20, leaves us at $25, 50% reduction!! Then, as I said, there's the "new cell/ tech efficiency" to add back requiring fewer cells per pack, etc. . Thanks for pointing that out!! 😉
At about 13 minutes in, "Western Australia is big". I had to look it up. Did the math. WA is 12 times the size of Great Britain. GB has about 21 times the people!
@@rogerstarkey5390 I know, I am hoping that "name drop bingo" becomes a regular feature, first person to spot one in the comments is the winner, spot two doubly so!
The surface area of the roof on an enclosed articulated trailer is enough to provide significant solar PV, i.e. boosting the truck's range on the road and charging a battery while sat stationary loading/unloading at a depot.....
10m x 2m trailer? That's about 10 "standard-ish" panels? 450W per panel (max) But they're horizontal, not angled, so maybe 400W? Take another 50W for "road dirt/ dust". You might get that for 4 hours per day? The other 8 hours of a 12 hour average "sun up" period may be 50% of that? (350x 10x 4) +(175x10x 8) ±28kWh BEST case. Tesla Semi (the best so far) Best case, 1.7kWhper mile. 16 miles per day benefit. If there's no cloud, rain, snow, heavy dust, etc. . Put the panels on a roof, with a solar tracker, keep them fairly clean. Charge when the truck arrives, you'll get more benefit. Plus K.I.S.S.
COnsidering you have all the teslas and EVs the battery capacity needed might be already there - if the cars battery could be used to feed into the grid , that at home or to feed and stabilize the grid already.
I would love to see an open discussion between Prof. Wills and Mark Mills (and/or other leading lights) on the energy transition, it could be an epiphany for the viewer
It's funny how Robert's experience finding that his desire for meat had apparently evaporated to a large extent is so similar to that of my flatmate. They used to be a dyed-in-the-wool carnivorous monster. But after years of exposure to my cooking, they will now more often than not, beg me to make vegetarian this, vegetarian that. By and large, they have switched their food preferences to a mostly vegetarian diet by osmosis. I don't have any objections to eating meat, it just doesn't agree with me all that much and the taste has never been one of my favourites, even in childhood, according to my dad. He once said to me as a 23yr old, that even as a kid on the farm, I'd tend to go for second helpings of veges rather than meat. To my great surprise, I realised he was right; I'd just never thought about it.
For a change the latest interviewee didn’t let Robert take over the conversation. He hardly got a word in edgeways. Not a criticism of Robert as he talks sense but this guy’s broad knowledge and enthusiasm for the transition to sustainable energy will undoubtedly mean that Australia will be a world leader in wind, solar and all the industries that will benefit from almost limitless virtually free energy in the future. Hope it happens quickly.
An Octopus customer shared a screenshot this week of their new Go tariff pricing with the standing charge rising to 60p per day. Mine currently is 40p. Are we still subsidising the failed energy companies? Or might the standing charge price rises be to supplement the potential loss of income due to the potential falling unit rates and/or increase in house hold micro generation and battery storage?
One thing I’ve not read so far is the need to conserve finite fossil fuel for those rare processes for which there is no alternative. This realization could well bring that lobby on side looking to the future.
Rather than adding batteries to houses, trailers, everywhere... we should be focussing surely on connectivity everywhere, and minimal possible battery size, say ~30kwh for ~200 or so km range - and needs to be rechargeable in 5 minutes or less.. Rather than saying "oh the sun is shining but I'm at work", the vehicle could be plugged in while at work and contributing to grid balancing. The number of vehicles which could do very well with this model is likely 90%.. sure larger batteries will be needed in places and specific applications, but the average commuter could be enticed to park and plug in near a decent train infrastructure. Planes, need to be replaced with high speed rail, granted Australia has some very serious distance issues to deal with quite unuique to the country. hoiking 1tonne of battery in every trailer does not seem like a great solution.
Classsic case of what Prof Wills said, landlords don't get any benefit from solar generation, it is only helping the tenants. I had a great north facing industrial roof,42M long x18M wide x 6M high, perfectly angled, ideal for solar panels, but no benefit to me, only to my tenants possibly, so I never added them !
20million vehicles in Australia. 1million new vehicles annually in Australia. 20years to replace all vehicles with EV in Australia. Manufacturing is only set up for this small amount of annual replacement. Too much EV manufacture capacity is uneconomic.
@@stephenbrickwood1602 The point is that it will all be driven by overseas interests/decisions. We, our little market, will have no influence on the carmakers' decisions.
@@linmal2242 yes you are right. Let me say that we can import as many vehicles from overseas as we need, overseas supply is unaffected by our small market and its demand. For the Australian market any demand could be met. I suggest that V2G be a priority as it puts the maximum amount of batteries into the grid and every building is a connection to the grid. Not rapid charging connections but daily steady top up or grid feed in. Rapid charging will be at the corner shops as a side business and on the main roads. Basically every EV is fully charged or ready with its next day's power needs. The old days of going to fill up with 100kg of inflammable petroleum when the tank is empty will be seen as like we look at the horse and cart days. The big business will be with the grid owners and the auto manufacturers. Every building will feed in to the grid and the 20million Australian EV batteries will absorb the excess and stabilise the grid 20million buildings = 660gWh daily 20million EV 100kwh batteries = 2,000 gWh dispatchable storage. Fossil fueled generation is 400gWh avg Peaking at 600gWh if you are lucky. Grid capacity expansion is the killer cost for central generation Renewables or nuclear. And nuclear will tell you that is the killer cost of new Snowy 2 and Renewables. But 5fold increase in electricity generation and the transmission is the killer of centralised any generation.
I'm in Victoria and would love to put a Tesla power wall battery on my tiny 6kw system but the scamming installers here just keep raising the price. One quote I got was $17000 just to add a powerwall 2. Ridiculous. I would love to add more solar panels to actually get a reasonable yeild from the limited 5kw inverter maximum limit on my single phase feed. No, in Victoria at least for some dumb reason, we a not allowed to install more than 1.4 times the inverter value. Ie, 6.6kw of solar. Absolutely insane! That policy needs to change.
And another quote "We've got to do this again". Abso-bloody-lutely! I completely agree with Bob about billionaire's - it is immoral, wrong, bad for society that they exist
Batteries are almost 90% Cheaper Today Versus 2008 and it is suggested the global price for lithium-ion batteries could drop to $101/kWh in 2023, and to around $58/kWh by 2030. It has become a no brainier that batteries will become used to stabilizer the grid.
V2G.... all the pieces are there, just put it in the hands of customers & and let's see what happens. Humanity often uses the stuff that no one assumed to great effect.
On the subject of billionaires and such: They're not all the same, not by a long shot. And they usually don't have their money in a Scrooge McDuck type vault, anyway. Specifically, I'm very comfortable about Elon Musk being a billionaire; because of the way he repeatedly has gone all-in, and continually creates value for pretty much the whole (human) world, working hard as hell. But even he doesn't have a billion in cash to throw around; It's mostly just on paper, you know (or rather numbers in computers), as it's tied up in stock and bonds, the value of which fluctuates all over the map.
I'm a great advocate for EV's, renewable energy and a more sustained life style, but with every climate experts failed deadline of disaster I become more disillusioned with the climate crisis experts claims, 2016 was supposed to be the end of the world but here we still are. I do fervently believe in cleaning up the air we breath and the joy that is driving EV's but the "end of the world" not so much
If Elon is listening to any of this he should definitely build a gigafactory in Oz to take advantage of this pivot to renewables. Think if the market for Tesla’s electric vehicles that is in its infancy in Australia.
Renewable energy by solar,wind and bateries is an unsustsinable fantasy. Where are all these huge amounts of minerals and rare earths to cone from takes 25 years to open anew coppermine.
Insanity.! But the earth goddess 'Gaia' will sort it; just more hurricanes, droughts, floods, famines and wars ! Will get rid of a lot of these pesky 'monkees' stuffing up the natural order !
'...governments....wise decisions....' Definitely not my observations. Vietnam, destruction of manufacturing, sitting on the global warming problem for nearly 100 years, massive loss of biosphere, utter car dependence, etc, etc, etc.
As someone who lives in WA, it was fantastic to hear some of Ray's insights and also gives me hope that we may not be the 'Wait Awhile' state for much longer... we might actually be on the right track! Thanks for a great interview from such an animated and interesting individual.
Great presentation. Prof Wills needs wider exposure. He is really on top where we are, where we are going, and where we need to end up.
Yeah totally. While watching this i was keen to see more of him, checked the description in the off chance he had his own TH-cam channel or something (aww no such luck).
wait... i just checked, he does indeed have a TH-cam channel with interviews etc it's *@ProfRayWills* . There's not many vids, but i notice he's keeping a playlist updated with interviews hosted on other channels (this interview is already on it haha).
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What a brilliant interview. Thank you both for the top quality information and insights. Presently upgrading our 5kW of PV to 8.5kW here in NZ and discovering I'm ahead of the tech in terms of aiming for V2G for storage potential. Ray's comments in that regard are definitely food for thought.
What a fascinating chap. Well, two of 'em. Great conversation, gents. Intelligent optimistic and your enthusiasms shines through. Keep up the top work.
Fascinating conversation, it always surprises me how interesting these chats are.
Thought provoking
That was absolutely fascinating. Can't believe I missed it until now. I think I started listening when it firat came out but got totally distracted. Anyway, so glad to finish viewing. It was like an Australian distillation of the practical of today and visionary future of Tony Seba. Brilliant. More please.
EDIT: Oh yes, and there was that moment where Prof Ray was struggling with the term "Precision Fermentation", and Robert came up with it because he'd recently interviewed Tony Seba who named the term himself. That ticked another box. 👍
Precision fermentation; I used to do a bit of that !!! Cheap and delicious !
Loved listening to this, fantastic discussions, and so many potential rabbit holes to go down!
Robert you are a coordinated Billy Connelly, on energy. Never stop talking, many topics and interesting people. Most importantly lively and entertaining.
Thanks to you(and your team) I have relevant uncorrupted information.
P.s. please interview so one from the RMI Institute on efficiency.
Nice chat amongst friends. What a great double act!!
I’ve got my doubts about generation Z…🤔🤔
Lovely episode, more of Ray please
That was one of the best and most informative one's so far. Abosolute best
That was very instructive. Many thanks Robert and Prof Ray.
What a chat!! Thank you guys!
Thank you both.
What an interesting informative chat.
Energy from Bees to Civilisations !
Ironically replacing tech which may have killed the bees?
Great Topic Ray and Robert #ElectrifyEverything
Thank you Gentlemen that was a great interview. 😊
Ray is a top bloke ! Great interview
Great interview with load of interesting information. Thanks
Great show, Thanks Robert!
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
Funny and interesting........be more like Ray peeps. 😃💪
Great interview, lots of inspiration, occasionally floated into the clouds...
Great and very interesting interview
Ray what a champ great, thought we were going the wrong way but we are on track 😅
Wow, thanks for the valuable information...what a privilege.
Great discussion… and so many valid points discussed.
We have a fabulous 3.5 year old Model 3, about 8kW of solar on the roof, and about 27kWh of battery storage, in hot and Sunny Queensland, and yes - efficient air conditioning and a fairly well insulated (old) house with a cool, white colorbond roof, which replaced a hot, totally uninsulated tile roof.
With all that, we still export lots of energy, and could very easily disconnect from the grid.
(I’d rather export excess energy rather than waste it.)
I’d actually like to install more solar and will likely do so soon. (You can’t have too much solar or battery.)
Looking at upping ours close to 10kW, adding a battery around 10kWh (enough for our evening/night usage plus a bit of buffer).
I wish we had an option to replace our Everest with electric, but it'll come.
Also did a nice Surfmist colourbond roof when we renovated, haven't fully insulated the old part of the house but it's not too bad.
Very nice conversation to listen to, thanks.
fun fact - Western Australia is about 10 times the size of the UK.
Not if your lost 😅
And sunnier
And the population of the UK is 24 times that of Western Australia….. it’s a very different place.
My penis is about 10 times the size of the UK. It ain't a big place.
Yea someone has finaly spoken it! I only started talking this for rail cars in the mid 1980's!
Cost v benefit. Gasoline has to double? triple? + in price for it to be viable to freight operators. Then there is reliability !!!
Wonderful conversation!
@42:10 Why not have charging at work during the day to soak up more solar.
Brilliant thanks
2:38. Robert "yeah, no". Almost a proper Aussie!
what a goofy guy, we need more like him, and more of him ...
Ray I would like your opinion about the economics of roof top solar used to replace gasoline. For example a 6.5/5 kw system will generate 180,000 kilowatts over 20 years. That's enough to power 2 EVS for 20 years or about 1.3 million klms in total. I worked it out to be 4 times better economically to replace gasoline than to substitute grid electricity for the home. Based on a Tesla 3 vs a Subaru Forester or Camry.
Surely "both" would be the ideal situation?
@@rogerstarkey5390 Of course but my point here is this. An investment in roof top solar is only ever looked at as a replacement for grid electricity. In this case using it to replace gasoline instead of grid electricity would mean it is possible to pay the array off in 1 year instead of 4. In the case of a Subaru Forester vs a Tesla Model Y the 10 year saving in gasoline is $33,000 ( $35,000 cost for gas at $1.80 per litre vs $1750 for roof top solar at 5 cents per kw). If all of that energy replaced peak grid at 28 cents, here is Sydney, then that is only a potential saving of $9000. Everyone should know this.
The Waymo brings home the fact that it's unmanned (no driver) which is the ultimate goal, albeit in a ring fenced environment. Tesla works in real situational driving environments with all its variations to some degree, Waymo passed the destination and did a u turn (bad and good). Waymo looks like a moon probe with it's sensors all over the car, while Tesla's tech is discreetly distributed within the vehicles form. They are both getting better but I feel the random events we all encounter during our journeys day to day are the real test, construction work, emergency vehicles, pot holes, other drivers breaking the rules casually, (rolling through stop signs) all need to be solved before autonomous vehicles can be released.
"Last Century"- like that, going to use it
What I was doing "last century" was counting pills in a pharmacy.
I like using "turn of the century" now!
You would connect the WA grid to export solar to the East
WOW - Love these podcasts. but this one blew me away...
It had not crossed my mind to put batteries & motors onto trailers & caravans!!!
I mean, that in itself is totally mindblowing.
Most large cravans already have large leisure batteries AND 2 motors driving the wheels (for manhandling at the park!). so, not really a lot to change there.
- Imagine a Car/Caravan combo, that could potentiall drive over 1000 miles, WITHOUT charging on-route or requiring any electrical hookup on-site!!
- I see this as a complete Game Changer
As an Electrician, I've been looking into the future problems for places like caravan parks? But in one short comment - that problem has gone away ;-)
Just think, an EV towing a battery - You just don't need the powerfull hookup I have been looking at. In fact, with regen braking on 2,4,6, 8 wheels, you may never need to charge again??
I think I'll be looking into this a bit more seriously now...
#Blue_Wizzard
This bloke is a genius
Thanks, that was a great interview. I went vegan 2 years ago because of health reasons. Since that time I have learnt of the energy conversion ratios of meat production. On average 20 calories of plants converts to 1 calorie of beef. Chicken is a bit better at 10:1. Lab grown meat has the potential to be much better at 2:1.
Yay, apart from feeling healthier my diet is a 1:1 conversion ratio. 60% of all cropping lands is to feed food animals. If people just reduced their animal protein intake by half the freed up cropping land could be used for biofuels for aircraft or rewilded as wildlife refuges. Please eat less meat for the planet!!
LFP batteries have a usable life of 5,000 to 12,000 full charge/discharge cycles. In a 250 mile range EV at only 5,000 cycles that's 1.25 million miles. Removed from a worn out EV body the batteries can be used for grid storage and their life will likely be extended past 5k cycles as they will no longer be in a moving/bouncing vehicle.
And at least 95% of the materials can be recovered and reused (Redwood Materials).
However, it's quite possible that at "end of vehicle battery life" it's better to simply recycle the material into a *more efficient* "new tech" battery cell at ±16% the cost of newly mined material?
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That material may then surpass it's original "100%, old tech" rating in the new cell?
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IIRC Sandy Munro stated that LFP battery packs should settle in at about $50/kWh. $30 for materials, $10 for manufacturing cells. and $10 for putting cells into pack. That $20 for manufacturing and packaging could be spread over far more cycles if the batteries are given a second use life. It would bring down the overall cost of owning an EV if the value of the battery pack was higher than simply the recovered material value.
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But of that $80 total, the reduction to 16% material cost ($5) would make the new cell 30% cheaper $80-$25 and the new cell would regain the 20% efficiency lost, plus any gain from the new technology. Even if that's only 10%, the new cell would have a total efficient gain of +30%.
Compounding those gains per kWh would yield ($80x 70%) x 70%.
An effective cost of $45/kWh
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It's a total of $50. $30 for materials, $20 for manufacturing.
Think about overall cost this way. If you buy a new shirt and wear it until it's reached the end of its useful life that shirt will have saved you money. You've spread the manufacturing cost part of the purchase price over more years/hours worn.
"think of it this way"....
If the cell cost is $50 and the material cost $30 that makes the case for recycling even more compelling.
Taking that $30 down to 16% still leaves it at ±$5, then adding the "manufacturing" of $20, leaves us at $25, 50% reduction!!
Then, as I said, there's the "new cell/ tech efficiency" to add back requiring fewer cells per pack, etc.
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Thanks for pointing that out!!
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Can you both do this every morning
amazing!!!!!!!
I have 3.2kw of solar and 7.2kwh lifepo storage and my bills have dropped by 80% , the other 20% is mostly daily standing charge . Southwest 🇬🇧.
At about 13 minutes in, "Western Australia is big". I had to look it up. Did the math. WA is 12 times the size of Great Britain. GB has about 21 times the people!
Great distances ~ Few people = all the more reason to electrify EVERYTHING.
Robin Williams!!! 💪👀👀
Douglas Adams
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Actually, both were mentioned.
@@rogerstarkey5390 I know, I am hoping that "name drop bingo" becomes a regular feature, first person to spot one in the comments is the winner, spot two doubly so!
Brilliant episode. Good job Professor Ray Wills!
The surface area of the roof on an enclosed articulated trailer is enough to provide significant solar PV, i.e. boosting the truck's range on the road and charging a battery while sat stationary loading/unloading at a depot.....
10m x 2m trailer?
That's about 10 "standard-ish" panels?
450W per panel (max)
But they're horizontal, not angled, so maybe 400W?
Take another 50W for "road dirt/ dust".
You might get that for 4 hours per day?
The other 8 hours of a 12 hour average "sun up" period may be 50% of that?
(350x 10x 4) +(175x10x 8)
±28kWh BEST case.
Tesla Semi (the best so far)
Best case, 1.7kWhper mile.
16 miles per day benefit.
If there's no cloud, rain, snow, heavy dust, etc.
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Put the panels on a roof, with a solar tracker, keep them fairly clean.
Charge when the truck arrives, you'll get more benefit.
Plus
K.I.S.S.
1:04:12 "If your economy is not value-based, what is the point of your economy?"
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The world needs a heck of a lot more old white guys like these old white guys :)
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(Makes old git sound.... Me)
COnsidering you have all the teslas and EVs the battery capacity needed might be already there - if the cars battery could be used to feed into the grid , that at home or to feed and stabilize the grid already.
I would love to see an open discussion between Prof. Wills and Mark Mills (and/or other leading lights) on the energy transition, it could be an epiphany for the viewer
He'll be "the sceptic"?
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Maybe add Tony Seba?
I don't think Mr Mills would win that one.
It's funny how Robert's experience finding that his desire for meat had apparently evaporated to a large extent is so similar to that of my flatmate. They used to be a dyed-in-the-wool carnivorous monster. But after years of exposure to my cooking, they will now more often than not, beg me to make vegetarian this, vegetarian that. By and large, they have switched their food preferences to a mostly vegetarian diet by osmosis.
I don't have any objections to eating meat, it just doesn't agree with me all that much and the taste has never been one of my favourites, even in childhood, according to my dad. He once said to me as a 23yr old, that even as a kid on the farm, I'd tend to go for second helpings of veges rather than meat. To my great surprise, I realised he was right; I'd just never thought about it.
Good one, Pinky !
Robert....
There seems to be an opportunity for a combined event with Ray bringing his energy industry contacts to a "Fully Electric" exhibition?
Is there anywhere we can buy stop burning stuff car stickers?
I had no idea that this man was Kryten. Well there you go.
For a change the latest interviewee didn’t let Robert take over the conversation. He hardly got a word in edgeways. Not a criticism of Robert as he talks sense but this guy’s broad knowledge and enthusiasm for the transition to sustainable energy will undoubtedly mean that Australia will be a world leader in wind, solar and all the industries that will benefit from almost limitless virtually free energy in the future. Hope it happens quickly.
It will be a long time given our legislature and vested interests !
High energie efficiency? 35-45% “well”2wheel in optimistic scenario?
An Octopus customer shared a screenshot this week of their new Go tariff pricing with the standing charge rising to 60p per day. Mine currently is 40p. Are we still subsidising the failed energy companies? Or might the standing charge price rises be to supplement the potential loss of income due to the potential falling unit rates and/or increase in house hold micro generation and battery storage?
One thing I’ve not read so far is the need to conserve finite fossil fuel for those rare processes for which there is no alternative. This realization could well bring that lobby on side looking to the future.
western australia is 2.646ml sq km
yes, you've reminded me of my failed mnemonic - same as WA pop ...
Death, taxes and people arguing.
Lawyer's live off the rule book that nobody else can follow.
Rather than adding batteries to houses, trailers, everywhere... we should be focussing surely on connectivity everywhere, and minimal possible battery size, say ~30kwh for ~200 or so km range - and needs to be rechargeable in 5 minutes or less.. Rather than saying "oh the sun is shining but I'm at work", the vehicle could be plugged in while at work and contributing to grid balancing. The number of vehicles which could do very well with this model is likely 90%.. sure larger batteries will be needed in places and specific applications, but the average commuter could be enticed to park and plug in near a decent train infrastructure. Planes, need to be replaced with high speed rail, granted Australia has some very serious distance issues to deal with quite unuique to the country. hoiking 1tonne of battery in every trailer does not seem like a great solution.
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Western Australia is 10 x the area of Britain with only 2.7 million people.
Classsic case of what Prof Wills said, landlords don't get any benefit from solar generation, it is only helping the tenants. I had a great north facing industrial roof,42M long x18M wide x 6M high, perfectly angled, ideal for solar panels, but no benefit to me, only to my tenants possibly, so I never added them !
oh so we don't grow seed crops on massive acres of land
20million vehicles in Australia.
1million new vehicles annually in Australia.
20years to replace all vehicles with EV in Australia.
Manufacturing is only set up for this small amount of annual replacement.
Too much EV manufacture capacity is uneconomic.
Australia doesn't make cars (anymore) - almost all new cars are imported (some bespoke manufacturing
@@ProfRayWills what is your point?
We can replace 20million vehicles in less than 20years ?
@@stephenbrickwood1602 The point is that it will all be driven by overseas interests/decisions. We, our little market, will have no influence on the carmakers' decisions.
@@linmal2242 yes you are right.
Let me say that we can import as many vehicles from overseas as we need, overseas supply is unaffected by our small market and its demand.
For the Australian market any demand could be met.
I suggest that V2G be a priority as it puts the maximum amount of batteries into the grid and every building is a connection to the grid.
Not rapid charging connections but daily steady top up or grid feed in.
Rapid charging will be at the corner shops as a side business and on the main roads.
Basically every EV is fully charged or ready with its next day's power needs.
The old days of going to fill up with 100kg of inflammable petroleum when the tank is empty will be seen as like we look at the horse and cart days.
The big business will be with the grid owners and the auto manufacturers.
Every building will feed in to the grid and the 20million Australian EV batteries will absorb the excess and stabilise the grid
20million buildings = 660gWh daily
20million EV 100kwh batteries = 2,000 gWh dispatchable storage.
Fossil fueled generation is 400gWh avg
Peaking at 600gWh if you are lucky.
Grid capacity expansion is the killer cost for central generation Renewables or nuclear.
And nuclear will tell you that is the killer cost of new Snowy 2 and Renewables.
But 5fold increase in electricity generation and the transmission is the killer of centralised any generation.
Interesting comment. Which raises the Q. "When do you anticipate retiring from the fossil fuel industry?"
I'm in Victoria and would love to put a Tesla power wall battery on my tiny 6kw system but the scamming installers here just keep raising the price. One quote I got was $17000 just to add a powerwall 2. Ridiculous. I would love to add more solar panels to actually get a reasonable yeild from the limited 5kw inverter maximum limit on my single phase feed. No, in Victoria at least for some dumb reason, we a not allowed to install more than 1.4 times the inverter value. Ie, 6.6kw of solar. Absolutely insane! That policy needs to change.
"If your economy is not value based what's the point of your economy"?
Amen
And another quote "We've got to do this again". Abso-bloody-lutely!
I completely agree with Bob about billionaire's - it is immoral, wrong, bad for society that they exist
Boogie Nights ... oh, oh, oh.
I think you just mixed Heatwave ("Boogie Nights") with Grease ("You're the one thing want")?
Batteries are almost 90% Cheaper Today Versus 2008 and it is suggested the global price for lithium-ion batteries could drop to $101/kWh in 2023, and to around $58/kWh by 2030. It has become a no brainier that batteries will become used to stabilizer the grid.
V2G.... all the pieces are there, just put it in the hands of customers & and let's see what happens. Humanity often uses the stuff that no one assumed to great effect.
ex- billianairs - where''s BEVs or 'space X without Elon Musk.
Yes, but E M is the exception. How many other mega-rich are even interested?
Keep drinking the billionaires' koolaid.😵💫
On the subject of billionaires and such: They're not all the same, not by a long shot. And they usually don't have their money in a Scrooge McDuck type vault, anyway. Specifically, I'm very comfortable about Elon Musk being a billionaire; because of the way he repeatedly has gone all-in, and continually creates value for pretty much the whole (human) world, working hard as hell. But even he doesn't have a billion in cash to throw around; It's mostly just on paper, you know (or rather numbers in computers), as it's tied up in stock and bonds, the value of which fluctuates all over the map.
I'm a great advocate for EV's, renewable energy and a more sustained life style, but with every climate experts failed deadline of disaster I become more disillusioned with the climate crisis experts claims, 2016 was supposed to be the end of the world but here we still are. I do fervently believe in cleaning up the air we breath and the joy that is driving EV's but the "end of the world" not so much
But then again, you voted for Brextwit..... 'nuff said.
If Elon is listening to any of this he should definitely build a gigafactory in Oz to take advantage of this pivot to renewables. Think if the market for Tesla’s electric vehicles that is in its infancy in Australia.
Population is too, too tiny !
wow this was awesome until.....until minute 59
So Robert the ferry that you used to get to the interview, was it a diesel powered ferry?
Even the longest journey starts with a single step.
@@rogerstarkey5390 only if you're walking or running
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metaphorically, "we" are.
But you could use veggie oil (esterified, of course) ! But the price determines everything !
Renewable energy by solar,wind and bateries is an unsustsinable fantasy. Where are all these huge amounts of minerals and rare earths to cone from takes 25 years to open anew coppermine.
oh god - the idea of burning coal to generate electricity to power air conditioners that have to be run more due to climate change 🙈😭💀
Insanity.! But the earth goddess 'Gaia' will sort it; just more hurricanes, droughts, floods, famines and wars ! Will get rid of a lot of these pesky 'monkees' stuffing up the natural order !
You were a hippie? What a shock.
Two peas in a pod
'...governments....wise decisions....' Definitely not my observations. Vietnam, destruction of manufacturing, sitting on the global warming problem for nearly 100 years, massive loss of biosphere, utter car dependence, etc, etc, etc.