Why are Earthworks Cheaper for Water Storage?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- This Q&A is pulled from a collection of questions posed to me by students of my Online Permaculture Design course (PDC). Learn about permaculture with my free four-part Masterclass series, here:
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Question: With all the expenses of earth moving, compacting, digging, and machinery how does it work out to be cheaper to install earthwork water storage?
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Not to mention they're bushfire resistant. Above ground water storage, via tanks, isn't the same. Cement tanks come close, but even they can crack with enough heat.
Not just bushfires. Where I live, in California, fires take thousands of acres - miles of burn scars. I'm expanding my pond this year to double the size. I have four cement cisterns (they were here when I got the place), but they aren't accessible to wildlife and the pond is.
Geoff, my man, always an inspiration.
Priceless to the birds and animals who use this water resources
You deserve a nobel prize sir
Wonderful information. Thanks. We all need ponds, swales and overflow ponds. We get almost 57 inches of rain a year. Shame we can't send some water
to you. We need to protect ourselves from flooding and nutrient loss.
Good for a bit of swimming too.
And fishing
Or compare/contrast to the expense of how many 5,000 gallon plastic or metal water storage tanks and their lifespans, maintenance, space requirements, ugliness, and environmental impact.
No contest.
Ugliness trumps everything else, even functionality, if you ask me.
Plus you can make money off the fish
Indeed!
Beautiful answer and view.
Beautiful dam to have around your house - although the helicopter parent in me would be constantly in a state of panic about kids drowning.
Hi Geoff
We are very happy to listen to you. You are doing such a good job for the sake of humanity. There are so many language options to listen to you in your channel. But why not Turkish. We Turkish have problems to understand you well.
Fascinating, thanks
Very interesting!
Awesome. This is how investments should be done, on a 500+ year scale. But, sadly, todays financial world often doesn't make investments even on a 500 day scale. And that short-sightedness is what seems to destroy the world in the long run. Imagine, instead, that every investment was done with many generations in mind. The world would be awesome! 😃
Your words, but God in your ears! Jeff is still that dude! So it is necessary to put monuments!
time value of money - discounts generations of profit - if I feed my family and friends forever - what's that worth?
I was at a 10 year old store and the parking lot was breaking up. I thought, how much more could you justify spending for a parking lot that would last indefinitely? Average business returns 5% on invested capital general contractors average 10% because of the risk. If I remember my math, a forever parking lot at 10% was brake even if you spent 15% more in it's construction, that's it.
The questioner wouldn't have made an obviously good investment in earthworks because she didn't know the payoff, just the initial expense. You would have us ignore the mathematics of finance for extreme payback periods.(and blaming people in finance for social ills has an evil history) Geoff, being balanced, will be able to get more done than either you or Cindy unless you learn.
tell that to your American friends.....just an idea....
Well explained
Wow, I was going to insert a comment about my ability to get you your own Web Development team to help you design and market your own business and permaculture journey, but the beauty and logic behind what you just said about thermal mass took my breath away....
Amazing.
What about water storage in arid land with little or no rain for farming?
How many inches of rain a year do you need to fill a pound that big and maintain it's fill level?
One inch of rain falling on one acre provides around 27,000 Gallons
What's the best way to keep your dams clean @Geoff Lawton from duckweed and smelling like a manky compost bin. Looking to help sister in law , clean up her dam which is a similar size to 'paradise pond' and potentially stock with fish ( In Gippsland , OZ ), cheers Paul
You can install a silt trap where the water comes from.
Hi what do you do with so much soil dug up from the pond construction? Thank you
Shape it into a dam?
If it's on a slope there's not alot of material left, but on flat land there is. You can build earth mounds and lots of earth structures with the dirt.
unfortunately it wont cost 8000$ today
Prices are much the same really, I got a similar size dam dug just 3 years ago for about 5000 AUD
Geoff once pointed out to me that the bigger the machine the more cost-effective it is. A big machine gets the job done quickly.
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Bassically demonstrating what we lost in the UK when we killed all our beavers. Nice job!
Now that is a pity. I'd love to see beavers imported into Australia and then protected as a species. No doubt the nativists would oppose it.