I love my Drum Dial, have had it for years. I work a lot of gigs that don't want a drummer banging away tuning the drums. I know my settings so i can sit at a table quietly and tune up. Keeps both bar managers and sound guys happy. Just this last weekend i got a nice remark from one of our regular sound guys saying how he loves how my drums are always in tune. Smarter, not harder.
Drum dial took my already awesome 6 piece natural maple drums to the Zen level. They sound great. I recommed the Drum Dial for all drummers at all levels. And their CEO, Steve graciously sent me a set of replacement tension indicators free. So, I know that Drum Dial is a great company to work with because they are interested in my success as a drummer.
If I tune my 10", 12", and 16" toms to have the same tension on both batter and resonant heads, will the size of the toms give me a natural interval in between? Also, you tuned the resonant head 3 units lower on the 13" to give the 12" and 13" an interval of a 3rd....does that only hold true if the drums are 1" apart?
Tuning the 13" to 75 for both the top and bottom head would result in a step apart from the 12". We were demonstrating a 3rd apart between the 2 drums. We are also using a thick (2 ply 14 ml) head for the batter and a thinner (single ply 10 ml) head for the bottom resonant side. If we matched the heads for both the top batter and bottom resonant, for example both heads a 2 ply 14 ml, this would be the same tone top and bottom. This set up would give the most sustain and very little dissonance.
Best setting for gretsch Catalina 7 piece Snare: 14 x 6" - Tom: 8 x 7" - Tom: 10 x 7" - Tom: 12 x 8" - Floor Tom: 14 x 14" - Floor Tom: 16 x 16" - Bass Drum: 22 x 18"
Hello! I recently got a DrumDial but it had no edge gauge and sometimes when I use it, the dial will give me a false reading saying that the head is at 60 or 70 when my tension rods are visibly loose. Is this normal? Secondly, I’m buying Evans Coated G2 Batter heads for my toms that are 10, 12, and 14 inches. The tuning chart has sections for 2 ply heads and sections for coated heads, but not for Coated 2 ply heads like the ones I’m getting. Do you have any suggestions as to what setting I should tune them to? Thirdly, will the DrumDial work on a 20 inch Aquarian Super Kick 2 since it has a thick dampening ring on the edge of it? And finally, what setting would you recommend for a 14 year inch Evans Clear 500 Snare Reso head (5 ply) since its pretty thick compared to the average snare Reso head? I know this was a lot of questions but thank you so much!
60's on the DrumDial are very low settings, so the tension rods could be loose. The tuning chart 2 ply would also work for coated 2 ply. 10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant 12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant For the 20" bass drum, tune to the inside of the foam ring. See our bass drum tuning video in the series.: th-cam.com/video/oSocW_IqlYE/w-d-xo.html 14" snare top batter 89 and tune the bottom resonant ( Evans Clear 500 Snare Reso head ) to 82. If you tune the 500 much tighter than 85, the head will stretch. See our calibration video to be sure your tuner is calibrated: th-cam.com/video/4ojCsiocq70/w-d-xo.html
Hey drum dial! Amazing video and tuner! I have a question. I have this mini Ludwig drum set system. What would you recommend for a powerful sound for punk rock? Snare: 5x14 Tom: 7x10 Floor Tom: 13x13 Bass drum: 14x16
I have a 5 piece Tama inperialstar, the measures are: Snare 14” x 5,5” Tom left 10” x 7” Tom right 12” x 8” Tom floor 16” x 15” Bass drum 22” x 16” It'd be very helpful, thanks!
@@DrumDial thank you so much! The other thing I wanted to ask is that I have all my toms with the Evans ec2s on the top batter (all of them coated) And the snare has a Evans hd dry on the top batter
Can this be used to tune a concert bass drum? If so, are there specific ranges to look out for? This would be VERY helpful when tuning at local high schools.
I have a DW Performance kit. 12, 14, 16 toms. I use Coated Evans G2s on the batter and clear G1s on the reso. What would you reccomend for a mid and low tuning? Thanks!
Hey, what are your toughts on using batter heads on the resonant side? I am thinking of using Evans g2 on the resonant side and Remo pinstripe on the batter side, im looking for a deep and dark sound for my toms. the sizes are 8" 10" 12" 14" and 16". what would be the best tension to achieve this? Thanks, cheers from Norway!
Excellent question! This technique will lower the pitch and darken the tone. The settings would still be similar to our standard tunings: 8" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant 10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant 12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Hi! I have a Yamaha stage custom studio kit, how would you tune to get a low sounding floor tom and snappy snare? Thanks! 10" tom 12" tom 14" floor tom 14"x5,5" snare 20" bass drum
Can you explain why, on the 13" tom, if you tuned top and bottom to 75 would give a result that was a tone apart? Why wouldn't it be the same tone? Wouldn't having the same tone top and bottom be more desirable, less dissonant?
hey drumdial I have a Ludwig 3-Piece Vistalite Tequila Sunrise Shell Pack kit how should I tune my drums? Bass Drum(s): 22 x 14 in. Tom(s): 13 x 9 in. Floor Tom(s): 16 x 16
Hi! I have a Tama midnight Blue imperial star drumset and I'm trying to tune my 8x10 racktom and it snot even at 70 yet and it's already really tight and high pitched, why is this?
+ard3443 Make sure that your tuner is calibrated while sitting on a hard flat surface, glass etc. Do not overtighten your drum. 70 is a fairly loose setting for most drums and your tuner may not be calibrated properly, giving you a low reading.
Recommendations fort setting for playing a two-tom kit in a Modern Worship Setting? Like Elevation Worship or Hillsong? Instead of using the high and low tom, I use the med tom with the low since "the sound" for this genre is a fatter sound. So what would be a good difference in pitch and tightenings for that?
+Spencer Perilloux Tune all of the marching tenors to the same tension. Start at 90. The maximum tension is 96. A setting of 94 gives excellent stick response with a nice even tuning across the range of the drums. The two 6's can be tuned the same or tune one slightly higher.
My 16 inch tama imperialstar floor tom is only drum struggling. You guys recommend 74 batter and 74 reso like I've seen for other companies? Also do you recommend moon gel or anything else?
74 / 74 is a good mid range to lower tuning. Gels will help with ringing. Another good setting for that floor tom is 74 top batter 76 bottom resonant. Slightly higher in pitch with less sustain. Lowering the bottom head will have the opposite effect.
Really enjoying these videos but I've been wondering if you have any recommendations for my kit? I've had a Mapex voyager kit for years now and finally want to tune it to perfection: 12x9 tom tom 13x10 2nd tom 16x16 floor tom 22x16 bass drum And also a 14x6 Mapex Black Panther Wraith snare drum. Thanks so much guys.
Hello I have been using drum dial for my snares for years..now I finally able to afford my own drum set..it is a gretch catalina with 10' 12' 14' toms and 20 x 16 Kick drum..I am using Remo Pinstripe Ebony for all toms and Pinstripe Clear for kick drum..can you recommend the tuning for these? Thank you so much
Hey Drum Dial! Just ordered one from you guys and was curious if you could help me with settings for my Mapex Armory Fast Tom set? I will be using Remo Emperor Clears on the batters and Remo Ambassadors on the resonants. Thank you! Can't wait to try it out. Toms: 10x7 12x8 14x12 16x14 Snare: 14x5.5 Kick: 22x18
Hopefully I can follow your tunings in 3rds, but in inverted 3rds (reso lower than batter). Playing prog rock & metal, I tend to like my toms short & punchy.
The knob at 1 O'clock is the bezel lock. It keeps the numbered dial face locked in place for consistent calibration. See the video here on how to use it at the 1:30 mark th-cam.com/video/4ojCsiocq70/w-d-xo.html
Hi Steve! I have a set of Peavey with a 12x9, 14x14, 16x16 toms and a 22x18 kick and a 14x5 1/2 snare. All toms and kick have the Evans Oil Hydraulic batter heads on them and Evans Resonant heads. I'm looking for that deep thump out of the kick and nice but not real ringy sound out of the toms. What would be a good setting for these?
Thanks Mark, excellent question. The 16" floor tom with that head combination had the best feel, stick response and midrange sound tuned to 74 top and bottom. This gave us the D#2. Keeping the same feel, the 13" gave us the G2. The depth of the 12" tom we built was a little shallow. To keep the same feel the 3rd was augmented to a B. On a standard 12x9 tom we would have gotten the A#. Ideally, we could have used 12", 14", 16" toms, but the 13" is so common on many sets that we wanted to include it as well.
Hi DrumDial - I have toms 12x9 and 16x16. According to your recommendations I should tune them like: 12" - 75 top 75 reso 16 - 74 both top/reso But I like to tune reso higher than top, something about major 3rd. Should I add +1 to DrumDial reading for reso (change 74 to 75 for reso in case of 16"). Is my understanding correct ?
+Bartosz Dolewski Excellent question! If you have a thinner resonant head than your batter head, tuning to the same tension will give you about a 3rd apart. You are correct to add +1 to the resonant for a major 3rd and also have less sustain.
Hi Steve. Thanks for the videos. I always tune by ear, but will be very happy to purchase your product. I have a 1976 Ludwig Butcher Block. Beautiful kit. Sizes are 13, 14, 16, 18 and 24 x 14 kick. I go for the open Roger Taylor( Queen ) sound. Low tunings. I also like tuning in 3rds. Could you please tell me what you think the best settings would be? Also, when I buy the DrumDial, is there any information included as to what settings to use for tuning to a particular note? For example, I like the Bonham snare tone, so I tune my batter to G sharp and the reso slightly higher. Is this possible with DrumDial? I will be very grateful to you. Many thanks. Jem )
+Goesjem 13 76 top batter 74 bottom resonant 14 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 18 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 24 72 kick batter 70 front resonant 14 snare 88 top batter 82 bottom resonant There is a tuning chart included for recommended settings. It is also on our website. Any chromatic tuner will work but you will need to dampen the overtones. Place a gel at the 3 and 6 O'clock positions opposite to where you are playing and the fundamental will show. The edge frequency is different from the center fundamental.
Hi Steve. Your product is so great. I just got a 15" rack tom to match my kit. Do you think tuning batter to 75 and reso to 75 will be cool? I notice on most middle toms, you suggest a slightly higher tuning on reso. Is that to balance the 3rds? Many thanks to you Steve!
By adding the 15" you would need to slightly change some of the upper toms to get an even downward sound progression of about a 3rd. 13 77 top batter 75 bottom resonant 14 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant 15 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant 16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 18 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Make the interval between the toms an additional lower step (4th) by reducing by 1 tic mark on your DrumDial. You may need to increase your upper tom settings if the 16" and 18" toms sound very thin or toneless by increasing these settings by 2 or 3 tic marks for all of the toms. 13 77 top batter 75 bottom resonant 14 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 15 73 top batter 71 bottom resonant 16 72 top batter 72 bottom resonant 18 71 top batter 71 bottom resonant
Hi. I have a Pearl Export series 8x10 9x12 and 14x16 with Remo Coated Ambassador heads with factory bottom heads. What are the tuning recommendations? Please and Thank you.
hey Steve, what would be the recommend tuning can't figure it out -Pearl Vision SST Birch Ply Shell Set -10.5", 12.5", 14.5" Tom-Toms -22.5" Bass Drum -Aftermarket Pearl Sensitone Steel 14.5" Snare Drum
So you want to have both batter and resonant heads tuned at the exact same tension? I have my batter heads at 75 and my resonant heads at 74 for all toms, 85 and 84 for snare (not 100% sure, been a few days since I played on my set), and 75-70 for the bass drum. Do they have to be tuned in the same tension, or is it more of a preference in sound?
ARegularPanda Excellent question. A step apart (75-74 etc.) is OK also. This will give slightly more sustain. The top and bottom heads do not have to be tuned to the same tension. We recommend the same tensions for a thicker batter head and a thinner resonant head combination as a very good starting point (midrange of the drum).
10" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant 12" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant , 14" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant , 22" 74 kick batter 74 front resonant 14" snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
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I love my DrumDial! It did wonder to my old kit. But with my new drum set, what settings do you recommend for a PDP Concept Maple? • Snare 5.5x14" • Tom 8x10" • Tom 9x12" • Floor Tom 14x16" • Bass Drum 18x22" Thanks in advance!
I'm using a PDP concept maple. 10x8, 12x9, 14x12 all with Remo controlled black dot batter heads and PDP stock resonant. 22x18 bass drum with an Evans EMAD2 batter and Evans black resonant with a port hole. How should I have my settings?
An excellent starting point is: 10” 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant 12” 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 14” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 22” bass 73 kick batter 72 front resonant
DrumDial Thank You! part of the same kit I also have an 8x8 and a 16x14. So all of these drums sound good in a descending order how should I have the 8 and 16?
hey Steve, I have a Ludwig Accent CS Combo set with Evans G2 Coated on 12', 13', and 14' toms and an Evans Emad 2 on my 22' bass. What do you suggest for tensions?
Me next please! Sonor Bop kit 12x8 small tom, 14x14 floor tom, 18x16 bass drum using Remo fiberskyn ambassadors for batters and fiberskyn diplomat for reasonant heads snare is a 14x5 and a half pearl Mcx masters maple with remo amassador batter and remo renaissance ambassador snare side and using Grover sx wire/cable snare wire trying too play 50 and 60s jazz (Art Blakey Elvin Jones Max Roach) Oh! the drum dial is awsome (and why do not these other non drum dial videos they say tune by ear, which is fine why can they not at least give a number to tune by?(guess they do not want to mention you guys. Thanks again and your videos are helpful and fun to watch and learn Well Done!
Thank you Michael! These settings will work very well for you. 8 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant 14 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 16 75 kick batter 74 front resonant snare 89 top batter 82 bottom resonant
I only have two toms: 13x8 and 16x16. Would it make sence to just tune them to the same frequency on the drumdial? For example 74? Sonor teardrop beech shells.
Just got a Drum Dial, and have a question. I actually enjoyed the sound of my toms prior to picking up the Drum Dial. But apparently I have historically kept them a lot lower than you recommend. Putting the drum Dial on them at my old settings showed around 70 batter and 68 resonant. When I tried tuning my 16" floor Tom to 75/70 (the lowest you recommend), I hated how it sounded. So high pitched...sounded like a bongo or something. So am I doing something severely wrong here? Like...am I using this thing wrong or something and just getting inaccurate numbers (I did calibrate it on glass)? Or do I just like my drums tuned way lower, and that's ok?
Low settings can work well also. It is Ok to tune to the lower settings. Be sure to match your gauge readings for the clearest tone and keep the low settings that sound good for your drums.
Hey! What tensions would you recommend for Pearl Vision VBX (birch): 22 x 18" bass 10 x 8” Tom 12 x 9” Tom 14 x 14" Floor Tom 16 x 16” Floor Tom 14 x 5.5" SensiTone snare On toms I have Remo Emperor on top and ambassador as reso. Snare is Ambassador + Ambassador Hazy
Ive got a quick question. I notice with most tuners like tune bot or Itune for example it gives you two readings(HZ).One in the middle of the head, and then it gives a different reading when you measure at each lug! So for example, on the tune bot, Say you hit the middle of the drum, and get a reading of 75HZ, when you actually measure each lug individually it actually gives you a much higher reading at like 140HZ. 140HZ may not be the exact number when it's at 75HZ in the middle, but just for example sake. It is something like that though. So what Im confused about with drum dial is, if each lug reads 75HZ (vs the middle reading 75HZ with Tune Bot, but each lug reading 140HZ) is 75HZ on each lug with Drum Dial the equivalent of each lug on Tune Bot reading 140HZ? Know what I mean? Because if each lug is reading 140HZ on Tune Bot, but the middle(overall is reading 75HZ), then is that the same as Drum Dial reading 75Hz, but at all the lugs, and its just giving you the overall tympanic pressure but at the lugs instead of the Center of the drum like on Tune Bot?
James, DrumDial reads Timpanic pressure (a force / distance measurement). It does not read Hertz or frequency measurements. Those are two completely different measurements. Like temperature and time.
I have a early 90s set of Tama Rockstars. 12, 13 and 16 inch Toms. Remo Pinstripes for batters and Ambassadors for resonant heads. Can you give me a recommendation for a punchy kind of sound?
DrumDial works very well on mesh heads / Roland V-drums , Remo Silent Stroke batter heads any ply thickness. Very good starting points are: snare set to 75-80, toms set to 65-70, and Bass set to 70. The diameter does not matter. We shoot for consistent rebound for the tom heads.
Hi.. can you give me some advice? 12,13,16 i'm planning to use aquarian performance 2 clear. it's said in their site that it's for lower tuning. What setting should i go with
Thank you Jonathan! The Hydraulic heads are tuned just like standard drum heads and to similar tensions. Hydraulics naturally have a deeper tone with less sustain. Good starting tensions for toms are 76 top and bottom for 8-10 inch diameter drums, 75 top and bottom for 12-14 inch diameter drums and 74 top and bottom for 16-18 inch diameter drums.
What do you recommend for Remo Coated Ambassadors (batters) and Yamaha clear (resos) for a Yamaha Stage Custom Advantage kit? 9x10 and 10x12 toms and a 16x16 floor tom
I have a drum kit (gretsch catalina maple old) with 7×8, 8×10 and 9×12 rack toms and 14×14 and 16×16 rack toms. 18×22 bass drum and 6×14 snare. How should I tune them?
Hey Steve.. Just bought a digital dd today.. I own Tama hyperdrives.. What would you think would be great number settings for the 10-12 and 16 inch toms? remember these are the shallow shells that produce a more punchy, attack based sound... thanks!
for some reason tonight the floor tom, one of the lugs was reading like 74-75 but was nearly finger loose at the same time. All the other lugs were 71-ish but this one lug was a few points higher but loose.. doesnt make sense?! they are 4 months old drums too. Can you think of any idea why that one wants to be a bugger? thanks!
A loose tension rod as you described is usually corrected by tuning in a circular pattern after seating the drum head. After seating the drum head in the normal criss cross pattern, tune in small increments in a circular pattern one lug after the next up to your desired tension. A bad bearing edge, hoop or bad drum head can also cause this. See our troubleshooting video here for complete details: th-cam.com/video/_7jFne2gJBM/w-d-xo.html
Hi there I've got this stagg kit but I don't know the sizes of the drums I don't if you can help me out so I'm just using your videos has a guide with my drum dial it's a great tool for tuning drums by the way my floor Tom looks wider than the one your tuning in your video so I'm not sure what size it is maybe you can help ? And maybe with the other sizes..and what to tune them 2 there great videos by the way
Stagg drums usually come in a standard 5 piece set-up. These settings will put you in the midrange, with a nice downward sound progression and good stick response. 12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 13 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant 16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 22 bass 74 kick batter 74 front resonant 14 snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
I'm using a Sonor SMF 11 studio set 10x8, 12x9, 14x14 all with Evans Hydraulic Studio Set clear batter heads and Sonor SMF stock resonant. 20x18 bass drum with an Remo Bass Powersonic Clear batter head and stock resonant. Tama SLP bubinga birch oak 14x7 snare drum with Evans G1 Batter Head and Evans Resonant Head. How should I have my settings? Best regards!
Just got a drum dial and used it on my snare and now it sounds great!! I love it. What tensions could you recommend for the rest of my kit please? SJC custom kit, mahogany shells. Remo coated emperor tom batters, clear ambassador tom resonant. Remo powerstroke 3 kick batter, fiberskyn resonant kick 24x15 rack tom 13x9 floor tom 16x16 floor tom 18x16
Hi I just got a Yamaha stage custom birch drums with 10x7,12x8,16x15,14x5-1/2,and 22x17 bass drum with Evans UV2 coated heads and Emad2 for bass drum.what would you recommend.please reply thanks.
Please help me out with my drumdial configs. I have tama imperialstar in these sizes: 13" snare with remo coated controlled sound on batter and ambassador head on resonant 10, 12 and 14" toms with evans G2 level 360 on batter and G1 level 360 on reso 18" bass drum with ambassador coated
it would help me to understand what the dial numbers represent... and if i want to pitch up the resonant heads, how do i determine the 'number'. thanks! Jon
+Jonathan Reddish The resonant head is usually thinner than the top batter head. A thin head tuned to the same tension as the batter will naturally have a higher pitch. If you want a shorter decay and an even higher resonant pitch, tune the head one tic mark higher for each step you would like above your desired pitch.
+Jonathan Reddish The DrumDial numbers read in Timpanic Pressure, this is similar to foot pounds or Newton Centimeters as related to a force measurement. DrumDial measures the actual drum head tension, not tension rod torque.
Recommended starting points for a tama silverstar birch kit? I play a lot of reggae so I like my snare on the tighter side and my toms not too low. Snare 14 x 5 Toms 10 x 8, 12 x 9, 16 x 14 Kick 22 x 18
+Ethan Carlson Yes, works great on coated heads also. The toms are not muffled (wide open, no moon gels) and the microphone is built into the video camera without any effects processing. Videotaped in our workshop, not in a studio, without special recording or sound equipment.
Yes, DrumDial will work on tunable type Tubanos. Standard settings of 85 work well for each drum in the set. The depth and diameter will naturally determine the pitch automatically.
If I understand correctly, then when tuning toms that are 2 inches apart, like 10 and 12 inch toms, simply set the batter and Reso to same settings and let the toms do there natural notes. Is this a whole step or a 3rd?? But when there is only one inch difference, on the larger Tom you should tune the Reso -3 of the batter setting and create tuning at 1/3rd. Yes??? No??? What do you do when you have 12" and 13" high toms and a 14" floor tom with a 16" and a 18"????
Danny, you are correct 2" diameter apart is a 3rd when tuned to the same settings. It's only a step between a 12" and 13" (to create the third, drop the resonant head by 3. To continue 3rds for the larger toms from the 13" (14", 16" and 18") tune the top batters to 74 and the bottom resonants to 71. We usually only see a kit with either a 13" or a 14", but not usually both. It is OK to tune all of the heads the same, but the 13" tom will only be a step apart from the 12" and the 14" for a more chromatic downward sound progression similar to concert tom settings. We usually suggest tuning without a 13" this way: 12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 18" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant When using concert toms 10, 11,12, 13, 14,15,16 we tune all to 76 and have a single step between each drum.
18x24 72 kick batter 70 front resonant. We suggest tuning to the bass drum's lowest setting without wrinkles in the heads or hardware rattle. This setting is always a very good starting point to work up or down from.
Without the 13, tuning "normal," tune the 18x24 to 72-72? Thank you for breaking this down to the nuts and bolts. I fully understand the drum dial tuning. I bet this thread helped some others, too!
Yes, 18x24 tune to 72-72 to continue with the same progression. Also, OK to tune to the lowest setting without wrinkling or hardware rattles. A good number for most bass drums is 72 kick batter and 70 front resonant.
just got a mapex Saturn v studioease and would love to make it sing, I've been playing with tuning not sure on it. my style is all over the place so a sound that's compatible with multiple genres is important any help would be greatly appreciated
Pleas help I have an SJC kit 8x12 maple Tom - Evans USA G2 Coated Tom Batter, General Resonant Head 16x16 maple Tom - Evans USA G2 Coated Tom Batter, Genera Resonant Head 18x22 maple Bass - Evans USA E-MAD2 Bass Batter, EQ4 Calftone Bass Resonant Head 6x14 maple snare - Evans G2 coated batter/ Evans USA Clear 300 Snare Side Head 5.5x14 acrylic snare - Evans G2 coated batter/ Evans USA Clear 300 Snare Side Head
Hi guys, hoping you could help me - I have an old Yamaha YD kit, standard sizes. single ply top and bottom. I don't want any note bend but I want less sustain and more attack. thanks in advance
For good attack and less sustain, increase the bottom head tension like these suggested tunings: 10" 76 top batter 78 bottom resonant 12" 75 top batter 77 bottom resonant 16" 74 top batter 76 bottom resonant 22" 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
Hello, I use Evans Hydraulic Black heads and Evans 24" EMAD2 Clear Bass Drum. You can help me for my settings ? 10"x8" 12"x9" 16"x16" 18"x16" 14"x5,5" 24"x18"
hello!just got it and it rocks!!i have only one question ,i use muffle rings,should i take my mesurment with the muffle rings on or without the?thanks!
wolverinesbad, stay to the inside of the muffle ring on the bass drum. No need to remove muffle rings for toms. Your readings will be accurate either way.
thank you for answering!just bought a gretsh catallina maple and i cant get the exact sound that i want for my toms (10'12'14'16) im still working it.. they use evans g1 single ply coated and i have used remo double ply clear heads for over 20 years now.. any suggestion? thank you for your time!
wolverinesbad The following settings will get you very close using the Remo double ply clear top batters over the G-1's as bottom resonants: 10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant 12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant 14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant 16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
When using muffle rings, no need to remove them. Remember to always tune to the inside of the ring when tuning, this will give you a more accurate tuning and make getting the drums in tune with themselves much quicker.
Rotate the Roto Toms to their lowest setting and set each tuning point to 74. The goal is to get the drum in tune with itself and then rotate to your required pitches.
+Nathaniel Clause Tune to the same or similar tension at the midrange for the best stick response and sound. For example 76 (top and bottom) for the high tom, 75 for the second, 75 for the third and 74 for the lowest tom.
Okay, so…. I am not sure if this question even has anything to do with tuning but I really want an answer. How does one go about tuning toms and/or floor Tom to basically sound like a THUMP rather than having an actual pitch, or tone. Please use this clip as an example. th-cam.com/users/shortstCESCpAWdiI?si=GI67bjnijY0ftaFL
+DrumDial I agree with those settings. its a good standard to follow. However as a metal drummer, I prefer a punchier tone with faster decay. This I tune my resonent head slightly tighter. for example on a 12' tom I'll go 75 for the batter and 76-77 for the reso. On my kick 72 for the batter and 75 for the reso. You get a punchy tone, less overtones and a faster decay. All things considered these measurements may not work for everyone depending on their drums and setup. Just my two cents.
+DrumDial Your Welcome. And thankyou for producing an honest product with honest settings in the paperwork that come with it. They are pretty spot on and a good guide to work from to customize your own settings. And you hit the nail on the head. I do mostly studio Metal work. My aforementioned technique is very effective in the studio. All of my reso heads are tuned slightly tighter. But my Batter heads are almost identical to your recommended settings.
Hi! Tuning for a Pearl Session Studio All Birch (Top heads...Evans EC2) 8x7 10x8 12x9 13x10 14x14 16x16 22x18 Snare 14x5.5 Sensitone (remo ambassador) Thanks!
Uso una mapex mars series De casualidad a alguien mas le parese que en esta medida de toms tan cortos es mejor usar una tension mas baja? O solo es mi oido? Yo me encontre comodo con el bater 70 a 73 De 8" a 16" y el resonant todos en 68"
I love my Drum Dial, have had it for years. I work a lot of gigs that don't want a drummer banging away tuning the drums. I know my settings so i can sit at a table quietly and tune up. Keeps both bar managers and sound guys happy. Just this last weekend i got a nice remark from one of our regular sound guys saying how he loves how my drums are always in tune. Smarter, not harder.
Drum dial took my already awesome 6 piece natural maple drums to the Zen level. They sound great. I recommed the Drum Dial for all drummers at all levels. And their CEO, Steve graciously sent me a set of replacement tension indicators free. So, I know that Drum Dial is a great company to work with because they are interested in my success as a drummer.
Thanks for sharing!
before i got my drumdial i tune snare for a hours and now i can tune it in 5 min with the perfect sound thnks :)
Good Days SAME!!! It took me OURS!!!!! To get my jazz tuned drum
If I tune my 10", 12", and 16" toms to have the same tension on both batter and resonant heads, will the size of the toms give me a natural interval in between?
Also, you tuned the resonant head 3 units lower on the 13" to give the 12" and 13" an interval of a 3rd....does that only hold true if the drums are 1" apart?
Tuning the 13" to 75 for both the top and bottom head would result in a step apart from the 12". We were demonstrating a 3rd apart between the 2 drums. We are also using a thick (2 ply 14 ml) head for the batter and a thinner (single ply 10 ml) head for the bottom resonant side. If we matched the heads for both the top batter and bottom resonant, for example both heads a 2 ply 14 ml, this would be the same tone top and bottom. This set up would give the most sustain and very little dissonance.
The software is our own. You can get a similar program called "Audacity" . We use a spectrum analyzer and spectrum analysis to build the filters.
Best setting for gretsch Catalina 7 piece
Snare: 14 x 6"
- Tom: 8 x 7"
- Tom: 10 x 7"
- Tom: 12 x 8"
- Floor Tom: 14 x 14"
- Floor Tom: 16 x 16"
- Bass Drum: 22 x 18"
14" snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
8" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant ,
10" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant
12" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant ,
14" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant ,
22" 73 kick batter 73 front resonant
@@DrumDial thanks guys
Hello! I recently got a DrumDial but it had no edge gauge and sometimes when I use it, the dial will give me a false reading saying that the head is at 60 or 70 when my tension rods are visibly loose. Is this normal?
Secondly, I’m buying Evans Coated G2 Batter heads for my toms that are 10, 12, and 14 inches. The tuning chart has sections for 2 ply heads and sections for coated heads, but not for Coated 2 ply heads like the ones I’m getting. Do you have any suggestions as to what setting I should tune them to?
Thirdly, will the DrumDial work on a 20 inch Aquarian Super Kick 2 since it has a thick dampening ring on the edge of it?
And finally, what setting would you recommend for a 14 year inch Evans Clear 500 Snare Reso head (5 ply) since its pretty thick compared to the average snare Reso head?
I know this was a lot of questions but thank you so much!
60's on the DrumDial are very low settings, so the tension rods could be loose.
The tuning chart 2 ply would also work for coated 2 ply.
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
For the 20" bass drum, tune to the inside of the foam ring. See our bass drum tuning video in the series.:
th-cam.com/video/oSocW_IqlYE/w-d-xo.html
14" snare top batter 89 and tune the bottom resonant ( Evans Clear 500 Snare Reso head ) to 82. If you tune the 500 much tighter than 85, the head will stretch.
See our calibration video to be sure your tuner is calibrated:
th-cam.com/video/4ojCsiocq70/w-d-xo.html
Perfect I appreciate it!
Hey drum dial! Amazing video and tuner! I have a question. I have this mini Ludwig drum set system. What would you recommend for a powerful sound for punk rock?
Snare: 5x14
Tom: 7x10
Floor Tom: 13x13
Bass drum: 14x16
14" snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant,
10" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
13" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
16" bass 74 kick batter 74 front resonant
I have a 5 piece Tama inperialstar, the measures are:
Snare 14” x 5,5”
Tom left 10” x 7”
Tom right 12” x 8”
Tom floor 16” x 15”
Bass drum 22” x 16”
It'd be very helpful, thanks!
14" Snare 89 top batter 83 bottom resonant
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16" bass 75 kick batter 74 front resonant
22" bass drum 74 kick batter 74 front resonant
@@DrumDial thank you so much! The other thing I wanted to ask is that I have all my toms with the Evans ec2s on the top batter (all of them coated)
And the snare has a Evans hd dry on the top batter
The settings would be the same.
Thank you so much for the feedback 🙏🙏🙏
Drum dial I have a Ludwig NeuSonic 3-piece Shell Pack - 22" Kick - Aspen White
high tom- 8x12
floor tom- 16x16
bass drum- 16x22
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22 74 kick batter 73 front resonant
Can this be used to tune a concert bass drum? If so, are there specific ranges to look out for? This would be VERY helpful when tuning at local high schools.
Yes, 84-86 at the edge for all concert bass drums.
I love my drum dial! Big time saver.
I have a DW Performance kit. 12, 14, 16 toms. I use Coated Evans G2s on the batter and clear G1s on the reso. What would you reccomend for a mid and low tuning? Thanks!
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Hey, what are your toughts on using batter heads on the resonant side? I am thinking of using Evans g2 on the resonant side and Remo pinstripe on the batter side, im looking for a deep and dark sound for my toms. the sizes are 8" 10" 12" 14" and 16". what would be the best tension to achieve this? Thanks, cheers from Norway!
Excellent question! This technique will lower the pitch and darken the tone. The settings would still be similar to our standard tunings:
8" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Hi! I have a Yamaha stage custom studio kit, how would you tune to get a low sounding floor tom and snappy snare? Thanks!
10" tom
12" tom
14" floor tom
14"x5,5" snare
20" bass drum
10” 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12” 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
14” snare 89 top batter 80 bottom resonant
20” bass 74 kick batter 73 front resonant
Can you explain why, on the 13" tom, if you tuned top and bottom to 75 would give a result that was a tone apart? Why wouldn't it be the same tone? Wouldn't having the same tone top and bottom be more desirable, less dissonant?
hey drumdial I have a Ludwig 3-Piece Vistalite Tequila Sunrise Shell Pack
kit how should I tune my drums?
Bass Drum(s): 22 x 14 in.
Tom(s): 13 x 9 in.
Floor Tom(s): 16 x 16
22” bass 73 kick batter 72 front resonant
13” 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Hi, what are you recommended settings on 10x7 12x8 14x13 with 2 ply batter heads and single ply resonant heads
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant,
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
14" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant,
Hi! I have a Tama midnight Blue imperial star drumset and I'm trying to tune my 8x10 racktom and it snot even at 70 yet and it's already really tight and high pitched, why is this?
+ard3443 Make sure that your tuner is calibrated while sitting on a hard flat surface, glass etc. Do not overtighten your drum. 70 is a fairly loose setting for most drums and your tuner may not be calibrated properly, giving you a low reading.
Recommended tuning for:?
Tama Club Jam Vintage Kit
* 18" x 12" Bass drum
* 10" x 07" Tom
* 14" x 07" Floor tom
* 13" x 05" Snare
18" bass 75 kick batter 74 front resonant
14" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
13" Snare 89 top batter 83 bottom resonant
Recommendations fort setting for playing a two-tom kit in a Modern Worship Setting? Like Elevation Worship or Hillsong? Instead of using the high and low tom, I use the med tom with the low since "the sound" for this genre is a fatter sound. So what would be a good difference in pitch and tightenings for that?
75 top batter 75 bottom resonant for the smaller tom and 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant for the larger tom.
@@DrumDial Thank you for the insight!
Hey steve I have a set of marching tenors with sizes 13,12,10,8,6,6. What is your recommended numbers for tuning?
+Spencer Perilloux Tune all of the marching tenors to the same tension. Start at 90. The maximum tension is 96. A setting of 94 gives excellent stick response with a nice even tuning across the range of the drums. The two 6's can be tuned the same or tune one slightly higher.
My 16 inch tama imperialstar floor tom is only drum struggling. You guys recommend 74 batter and 74 reso like I've seen for other companies? Also do you recommend moon gel or anything else?
74 / 74 is a good mid range to lower tuning. Gels will help with ringing. Another good setting for that floor tom is 74 top batter 76 bottom resonant. Slightly higher in pitch with less sustain. Lowering the bottom head will have the opposite effect.
@@DrumDial batter 76, reso 74? Ty!
Batter 74, Resonant 76. The opposite is OK for more stick response.
Really enjoying these videos but I've been wondering if you have any recommendations for my kit? I've had a Mapex voyager kit for years now and finally want to tune it to perfection:
12x9 tom tom
13x10 2nd tom
16x16 floor tom
22x16 bass drum
And also a 14x6 Mapex Black Panther Wraith snare drum.
Thanks so much guys.
+fabrizio marra
12x9 tom tom 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
13x10 2nd tom 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant
16x16 floor tom 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22x16 bass drum 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
14x6 snare 87 top batter 78 bottom resonant
Hello I have been using drum dial for my snares for years..now I finally able to afford my own drum set..it is a gretch catalina with 10' 12' 14' toms and 20 x 16 Kick drum..I am using Remo Pinstripe Ebony for all toms and Pinstripe Clear for kick drum..can you recommend the tuning for these? Thank you so much
10" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant,
12" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant ,
14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant,
20" 74 kick batter 73 front resonant
@@DrumDial thank you so much
Hey Drum Dial! Just ordered one from you guys and was curious if you could help me with settings for my Mapex Armory Fast Tom set? I will be using Remo Emperor Clears on the batters and Remo Ambassadors on the resonants. Thank you! Can't wait to try it out.
Toms:
10x7
12x8
14x12
16x14
Snare:
14x5.5
Kick:
22x18
10" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant,
12" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant ,
14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant,
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant,
14" snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant,
22" 73 kick batter 73 front resonant.
@@DrumDial Wow thank you so much for the quick reply! Really appreciate it!
Hello! What settings would be recommended for marching tenors?
88-90 for all tenors. The diameter automatically determines the pitch with even stick response across the drums.
Hopefully I can follow your tunings in 3rds, but in inverted 3rds (reso lower than batter).
Playing prog rock & metal, I tend to like my toms short & punchy.
What does the 2nd knob at 1 O’clock do?
The knob at 1 O'clock is the bezel lock. It keeps the numbered dial face locked in place for consistent calibration. See the video here on how to use it at the 1:30 mark
th-cam.com/video/4ojCsiocq70/w-d-xo.html
A great tool for tuning drums
Hi Steve! I have a set of Peavey with a 12x9, 14x14, 16x16 toms and a 22x18 kick and a 14x5 1/2 snare. All toms and kick have the Evans Oil Hydraulic batter heads on them and Evans Resonant heads. I'm looking for that deep thump out of the kick and nice but not real ringy sound out of the toms. What would be a good setting for these?
+Shawn Keister
12x9 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14x14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16x16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22x18 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
14x5 1/2 86 top batter 80 bottom resonant
Tuning for a Tama Imperialstar 16x16 floor tom?
74 top batter 74 bottom resonant.
B - G - D# That's augmented. Were you going for those pitches specifically?
Thanks Mark, excellent question. The 16" floor tom with that head combination had the best feel, stick response and midrange sound tuned to 74 top and bottom. This gave us the D#2. Keeping the same feel, the 13" gave us the G2. The depth of the 12" tom we built was a little shallow. To keep the same feel the 3rd was augmented to a B. On a standard 12x9 tom we would have gotten the A#. Ideally, we could have used 12", 14", 16" toms, but the 13" is so common on many sets that we wanted to include it as well.
Hi DrumDial - I have toms 12x9 and 16x16. According to your recommendations I should tune them like:
12" - 75 top 75 reso
16 - 74 both top/reso
But I like to tune reso higher than top, something about major 3rd. Should I add +1 to DrumDial reading for reso (change 74 to 75 for reso in case of 16"). Is my understanding correct ?
+Bartosz Dolewski Excellent question! If you have a thinner resonant head than your batter head, tuning to the same tension will give you about a 3rd apart. You are correct to add +1 to the resonant for a major 3rd and also have less sustain.
Hi Steve. Thanks for the videos. I always tune by ear, but will be very happy to purchase your product. I have a 1976 Ludwig Butcher Block. Beautiful kit. Sizes are 13, 14, 16, 18 and 24 x 14 kick. I go for the open Roger Taylor( Queen ) sound. Low tunings. I also like tuning in 3rds. Could you please tell me what you think the best settings would be? Also, when I buy the DrumDial, is there any information included as to what settings to use for tuning to a particular note? For example, I like the Bonham snare tone, so I tune my batter to G sharp and the reso slightly higher. Is this possible with DrumDial? I will be very grateful to you. Many thanks. Jem )
+Goesjem
13 76 top batter 74 bottom resonant
14 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
18 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
24 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
14 snare 88 top batter 82 bottom resonant
There is a tuning chart included for recommended settings. It is also on our website. Any chromatic tuner will work but you will need to dampen the overtones. Place a gel at the 3 and 6 O'clock positions opposite to where you are playing and the fundamental will show. The edge frequency is different from the center fundamental.
Hi Steve. Your product is so great. I just got a 15" rack tom to match my kit. Do you think tuning batter to 75 and reso to 75 will be cool? I notice on most middle toms, you suggest a slightly higher tuning on reso. Is that to balance the 3rds? Many thanks to you Steve!
And can I ask what tensions are best for tuning in 4th? Thanks...
By adding the 15" you would need to slightly change some of the upper toms to get an even downward sound progression of about a 3rd.
13 77 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
15 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
18 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Make the interval between the toms an additional lower step (4th) by reducing by 1 tic mark on your DrumDial. You may need to increase your upper tom settings if the 16" and 18" toms sound very thin or toneless by increasing these settings by 2 or 3 tic marks for all of the toms.
13 77 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
15 73 top batter 71 bottom resonant
16 72 top batter 72 bottom resonant
18 71 top batter 71 bottom resonant
Hi. I have a Pearl Export series 8x10 9x12 and 14x16 with Remo Coated Ambassador heads with factory bottom heads. What are the tuning recommendations? Please and Thank you.
8x10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
9x12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14x16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
hey Steve, what would be the recommend tuning can't figure it out -Pearl Vision SST Birch Ply Shell Set
-10.5", 12.5", 14.5" Tom-Toms
-22.5" Bass Drum
-Aftermarket Pearl Sensitone Steel 14.5" Snare Drum
+Matthew Contreras
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22" 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
14" snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
So you want to have both batter and resonant heads tuned at the exact same tension? I have my batter heads at 75 and my resonant heads at 74 for all toms, 85 and 84 for snare (not 100% sure, been a few days since I played on my set), and 75-70 for the bass drum. Do they have to be tuned in the same tension, or is it more of a preference in sound?
ARegularPanda Excellent question. A step apart (75-74 etc.) is OK also. This will give slightly more sustain. The top and bottom heads do not have to be tuned to the same tension. We recommend the same tensions for a thicker batter head and a thinner resonant head combination as a very good starting point (midrange of the drum).
Hi!
Tuning (low tune) for a Pear Masters Premium maple?
Drum heads Remo Abmasador clear top and bottom.
10x8
12x9
14x11
22x18
Snare: Pearl free floating brass 14x5
10" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant
12" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant ,
14" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
22" 74 kick batter 74 front resonant
14" snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
I love my DrumDial! It did wonder to my old kit. But with my new drum set, what settings do you recommend for a PDP Concept Maple?
• Snare 5.5x14"
• Tom 8x10"
• Tom 9x12"
• Floor Tom 14x16"
• Bass Drum 18x22"
Thanks in advance!
14" snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
10" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant
12" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant ,
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22" 73 kick batter 73 front resonant
I'm using a PDP concept maple. 10x8, 12x9, 14x12 all with Remo controlled black dot batter heads and PDP stock resonant.
22x18 bass drum with an Evans EMAD2 batter and Evans black resonant with a port hole.
How should I have my settings?
An excellent starting point is:
10” 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12” 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22” bass 73 kick batter 72 front resonant
DrumDial Thank You! part of the same kit I also have an 8x8 and a 16x14. So all of these drums sound good in a descending order how should I have the 8 and 16?
8” 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
16” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
DrumDial what about a 16x18 floor tom (concept maple as well)
74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
hey Steve, I have a Ludwig Accent CS Combo set with Evans G2 Coated on 12', 13', and 14' toms and an Evans Emad 2 on my 22' bass. What do you suggest for tensions?
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
13 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant
14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
Me next please! Sonor Bop kit 12x8 small tom, 14x14 floor tom, 18x16 bass drum using Remo fiberskyn ambassadors for batters and fiberskyn diplomat for reasonant heads snare is a 14x5 and a half pearl Mcx masters maple with remo amassador batter and remo renaissance ambassador snare side and using Grover sx wire/cable snare wire trying too play 50 and 60s jazz (Art Blakey Elvin Jones Max Roach) Oh! the drum dial is awsome (and why do not these other non drum dial videos they say tune by ear, which is fine why can they not at least give a number to tune by?(guess they do not want to mention you guys. Thanks again and your videos are helpful and fun to watch and learn Well Done!
Thank you Michael! These settings will work very well for you.
8 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
14 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16 75 kick batter 74 front resonant
snare 89 top batter 82 bottom resonant
I only have two toms: 13x8 and 16x16.
Would it make sence to just tune them to the same frequency on the drumdial? For example 74?
Sonor teardrop beech shells.
74 is good top and bottom for both drums, but for more pitch difference tune 75 for the 13" and 74 for the 16" .
Just got a Drum Dial, and have a question. I actually enjoyed the sound of my toms prior to picking up the Drum Dial. But apparently I have historically kept them a lot lower than you recommend. Putting the drum Dial on them at my old settings showed around 70 batter and 68 resonant. When I tried tuning my 16" floor Tom to 75/70 (the lowest you recommend), I hated how it sounded. So high pitched...sounded like a bongo or something.
So am I doing something severely wrong here? Like...am I using this thing wrong or something and just getting inaccurate numbers (I did calibrate it on glass)? Or do I just like my drums tuned way lower, and that's ok?
Low settings can work well also. It is Ok to tune to the lower settings. Be sure to match your gauge readings for the clearest tone and keep the low settings that sound good for your drums.
Thanks so much for the reply! And can I say, it's really refreshing to see such reliable customer service on this channel. :)
Hey! What tensions would you recommend for Pearl Vision VBX (birch):
22 x 18" bass
10 x 8” Tom
12 x 9” Tom
14 x 14" Floor Tom
16 x 16” Floor Tom
14 x 5.5" SensiTone snare
On toms I have Remo Emperor on top and ambassador as reso.
Snare is Ambassador + Ambassador Hazy
10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22 73 kick batter 72 front resonant
snare 90 top batter 82 bottom resonant
Can i use drumsdial on timbales to tuner
And whats number can i use
Please Help, l have alredy buy a drum dial and i want toknow how to tune a yamaha stage custom birch sizes toms 8, 10, 12, 16 and bassdrum 22x17 tnks!
8" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant ,
10" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant
12" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant ,
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22" 73 kick batter 73 front resonant
If interested, a good starting point:
snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
@@DrumDial thanks so much! For your time! I appreciate
What should I do my kit to?
10" × 7" Rack Tom
12" × 8" Rack Tom
16" × 16" Floor Tom
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
@@DrumDial thanks boss, I have clear 2 ply batter heads guessing it doesn’t matter lol
The same settings would apply. The 2 ply head will naturally have a lower pitch.
Ive got a quick question. I notice with most tuners like tune bot or Itune for example it gives you two readings(HZ).One in the middle of the head, and then it gives a different reading when you measure at each lug!
So for example, on the tune bot, Say you hit the middle of the drum, and get a reading of 75HZ, when you actually measure each lug individually it actually gives you a much higher reading at like 140HZ. 140HZ may not be the exact number when it's at 75HZ in the middle, but just for example sake. It is something like that though.
So what Im confused about with drum dial is, if each lug reads 75HZ (vs the middle reading 75HZ with Tune Bot, but each lug reading 140HZ) is 75HZ on each lug with Drum Dial the equivalent of each lug on Tune Bot reading 140HZ?
Know what I mean? Because if each lug is reading 140HZ on Tune Bot, but the middle(overall is reading 75HZ), then is that the same as Drum Dial reading 75Hz, but at all the lugs, and its just giving you the overall tympanic pressure but at the lugs instead of the Center of the drum like on Tune Bot?
James, DrumDial reads Timpanic pressure (a force / distance measurement). It does not read Hertz or frequency measurements. Those are two completely different measurements. Like temperature and time.
I have a early 90s set of Tama Rockstars. 12, 13 and 16 inch Toms. Remo Pinstripes for batters and Ambassadors for resonant heads. Can you give me a recommendation for a punchy kind of sound?
+Darrell Hart
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
13 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Does it work with mesh heads.
DrumDial works very well on mesh heads / Roland V-drums , Remo Silent Stroke batter heads any ply thickness. Very good starting points are:
snare set to 75-80, toms set to 65-70, and Bass set to 70. The diameter does not matter. We shoot for consistent rebound for the tom heads.
I'm using the Evans Black Onyx on 10,12,14,16.... What would you recommend?
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
hi, whats the name of that computer frequency meter?
Hi.. can you give me some advice?
12,13,16 i'm planning to use aquarian performance 2 clear. it's said in their site that it's for lower tuning. What setting should i go with
12x9 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
13x10 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant
16x16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
thanks man.. worked great :)
i like the evans hydrolic heads, and they are different all together... what tensions would you recommend? thanks.
Thank you Jonathan! The Hydraulic heads are tuned just like standard drum heads and to similar tensions. Hydraulics naturally have a deeper tone with less sustain. Good starting tensions for toms are 76 top and bottom for 8-10 inch diameter drums, 75 top and bottom for 12-14 inch diameter drums and 74 top and bottom for 16-18 inch diameter drums.
I have a Ludwig Pinnacle set.
10x8 tom
12x9 tom
16x14 floor tom.
What do you recommend? Thanks.
10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Love the drum dial, makes tuning quick and easy, I have a Mapex Saturn 10" 12" 14" 16", what do you recommend?
10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
What do you recommend for Remo Coated Ambassadors (batters) and Yamaha clear (resos) for a Yamaha Stage Custom Advantage kit?
9x10 and 10x12 toms and a 16x16 floor tom
+Lauren Grancagnolo
9x10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
10x12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16x16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
+Lauren Grancagnolo I have that same kit! The sound is great, cant wait to tune mine perfectly. How do you like your kit?
I have a drum kit (gretsch catalina maple old) with 7×8, 8×10 and 9×12 rack toms and 14×14 and 16×16 rack toms. 18×22 bass drum and 6×14 snare. How should I tune them?
+Lemon
7×8 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
8×10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
9×12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14×14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16×16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
18×22 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
6×14 88 top batter 78-80 bottom resonant
Hey Steve.. Just bought a digital dd today.. I own Tama hyperdrives.. What would you think would be great number settings for the 10-12 and 16 inch toms? remember these are the shallow shells that produce a more punchy, attack based sound... thanks!
10 73 top batter 73 bottom resonant
12 73 top batter 71 bottom resonant
16 71 top batter 71 bottom resonant
for some reason tonight the floor tom, one of the lugs was reading like 74-75 but was nearly finger loose at the same time. All the other lugs were 71-ish but this one lug was a few points higher but loose.. doesnt make sense?! they are 4 months old drums too. Can you think of any idea why that one wants to be a bugger? thanks!
A loose tension rod as you described is usually corrected by tuning in a circular pattern after seating the drum head. After seating the drum head in the normal criss cross pattern, tune in small increments in a circular pattern one lug after the next up to your desired tension. A bad bearing edge, hoop or bad drum head can also cause this. See our troubleshooting video here for complete details:
th-cam.com/video/_7jFne2gJBM/w-d-xo.html
Hi there I've got this stagg kit but I don't know the sizes of the drums I don't if you can help me out so I'm just using your videos has a guide with my drum dial it's a great tool for tuning drums by the way my floor Tom looks wider than the one your tuning in your video so I'm not sure what size it is maybe you can help ? And maybe with the other sizes..and what to tune them 2 there great videos by the way
Stagg drums usually come in a standard 5 piece set-up. These settings will put you in the midrange, with a nice downward sound progression and good stick response.
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
13 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22 bass 74 kick batter 74 front resonant
14 snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
Hey, I’m using a Ludwig club date,
13”
16”
22”
What would you recommend for settings
13" 76 top batter 75 bottom resonant,
16" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant,
22" 74 kick batter 74 front resonant
I'm using a Sonor SMF 11 studio set 10x8, 12x9, 14x14 all with Evans Hydraulic Studio Set clear batter heads and Sonor SMF stock resonant. 20x18 bass drum with an Remo Bass Powersonic Clear batter head and stock resonant. Tama SLP bubinga birch oak 14x7 snare drum with Evans G1 Batter Head and Evans Resonant Head. How should I have my settings? Best regards!
10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
20 73 kick batter 72 front resonant
snare 89 top batter 80 bottom resonant
What tone is 12,13,14,16,18,22"? Thank you very much!
D# B G D# B D#
recommended starting point for a Ludwig Breakbeats kit? 14x5 snare, 10x7 tom, 13x13 floor tom, 16x14 kick
10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
13 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16 74 kick batter 74 front resonant
snare 88 top batter 82 bottom resonant
Just got a drum dial and used it on my snare and now it sounds great!! I love it. What tensions could you recommend for the rest of my kit please?
SJC custom kit, mahogany shells.
Remo coated emperor tom batters, clear ambassador tom resonant.
Remo powerstroke 3 kick batter, fiberskyn resonant
kick 24x15
rack tom 13x9
floor tom 16x16
floor tom 18x16
24" 74 kick batter 73 front resonant
13" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
16" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
18" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
DrumDial thanks, I’ll give those a go!
Hi I just got a Yamaha stage custom birch drums with 10x7,12x8,16x15,14x5-1/2,and 22x17 bass drum with Evans UV2 coated heads and Emad2 for bass drum.what would you recommend.please reply thanks.
10x7 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12x8 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16x15 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
14x5 1/2 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
22x17 73 kick batter 74 front resonant
DrumDial thank you so much for reply.i wasn’t expecting it.thanks again
Im actually getting my first drumdial now, how should i tune my drums?
12x8" tom 16x14" floor 22x18 kick.
+VoteEvil Drums
12x 8 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16x14 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
22x18 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
Please help me out with my drumdial configs. I have tama imperialstar in these sizes:
13" snare with remo coated controlled sound on batter and ambassador head on resonant
10, 12 and 14" toms with evans G2 level 360 on batter and G1 level 360 on reso
18" bass drum with ambassador coated
10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Bass 74 kick batter 73 front resonant
snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
it would help me to understand what the dial numbers represent... and if i want to pitch up the resonant heads, how do i determine the 'number'.
thanks! Jon
+Jonathan Reddish
The resonant head is usually thinner than the top batter head. A thin head tuned to the same tension as the batter will naturally have a higher pitch. If you want a shorter decay and an even higher resonant pitch, tune the head one tic mark higher for each step you would like above your desired pitch.
+DrumDial thanks steve. i was curious on what 75 is? 75 ohms? 75%? why not 85.. etc.. again thanks, i ordered a drum dial after watching this video..
+Jonathan Reddish
The DrumDial numbers read in Timpanic Pressure, this is similar to foot pounds or Newton Centimeters as related to a force measurement. DrumDial measures the actual drum head tension, not tension rod torque.
It's the same procedure if I use Drumdial con timbales? I'm talking about latin timbales, not timpani.
Sebastian Salas Salas Yes, same procedure, but tune to 85 on the large drum and 88 on the small drum for timbales.
Hi!
Tuning for a Tama Rockstar (Top heads...Remo Ambasador Coated)
13x10
16x16
22x16
Snare: 14x6,5 Pearl Session Elite Steel (Evans Power Center)
13” 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22” bass 73 kick batter 72 front resonant
14” snare 89 top batter 80 bottom resonant
Recommended starting points for a tama silverstar birch kit? I play a lot of reggae so I like my snare on the tighter side and my toms not too low.
Snare 14 x 5
Toms 10 x 8, 12 x 9, 16 x 14
Kick 22 x 18
10 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant
12 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
16 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
22 77 kick batter 74 front resonant
snare 89 top batter 82 bottom resonant
What tensions would I put if I wanted to tune a 12 inch and 16 inch Tom with coated heads?
They are both g2 coated on top and g1 clear on the bottom
+Ethan Carlson
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Does it work well for coated heads too? also why did all of the toms have that weird ring to them in the video?
+Ethan Carlson Yes, works great on coated heads also. The toms are not muffled (wide open, no moon gels) and the microphone is built into the video camera without any effects processing. Videotaped in our workshop, not in a studio, without special recording or sound equipment.
+DrumDial oh that makes more sense lol. thank you so much! :D
I have a set of Tubanos and was wondering if drumdial would work?
Yes, DrumDial will work on tunable type Tubanos. Standard settings of 85 work well for each drum in the set. The depth and diameter will naturally determine the pitch automatically.
Need help tuning my drums please. What numbers should I tune to for:
Share 13"
Tom 10"
Tom 12"
Floor Tom 14"
Bass Drum 18"
Snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant,
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant,
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant,
18" 74 kick batter 73 front resonant
@@DrumDial thank you very much
If I understand correctly, then when tuning toms that are 2 inches apart, like 10 and 12 inch toms, simply set the batter and Reso to same settings and let the toms do there natural notes. Is this a whole step or a 3rd?? But when there is only one inch difference, on the larger Tom you should tune the Reso -3 of the batter setting and create tuning at 1/3rd. Yes??? No??? What do you do when you have 12" and 13" high toms and a 14" floor tom with a 16" and a 18"????
Danny, you are correct 2" diameter apart is a 3rd when tuned to the same settings. It's only a step between a 12" and 13" (to create the third, drop the resonant head by 3.
To continue 3rds for the larger toms from the 13" (14", 16" and 18") tune the top batters to 74 and the bottom resonants to 71. We usually only see a kit with either a 13" or a 14", but not usually both. It is OK to tune all of the heads the same, but the 13" tom will only be a step apart from the 12" and the 14" for a more chromatic downward sound progression similar to concert tom settings.
We usually suggest tuning without a 13" this way:
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
18" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
When using concert toms 10, 11,12, 13, 14,15,16 we tune all to 76 and have a single step between each drum.
With this tuning, what would you suggest for an 18x24 kick?
18x24 72 kick batter 70 front resonant. We suggest tuning to the bass drum's lowest setting without wrinkles in the heads or hardware rattle. This setting is always a very good starting point to work up or down from.
Without the 13, tuning "normal," tune the 18x24 to 72-72?
Thank you for breaking this down to the nuts and bolts. I fully understand the drum dial tuning. I bet this thread helped some others, too!
Yes, 18x24 tune to 72-72 to continue with the same progression. Also, OK to tune to the lowest setting without wrinkling or hardware rattles. A good number for most bass drums is 72 kick batter and 70 front resonant.
just got a mapex Saturn v studioease and would love to make it sing, I've been playing with tuning not sure on it. my style is all over the place so a sound that's compatible with multiple genres is important any help would be greatly appreciated
10” 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12” 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22” bass 73 kick batter 72 front resonant
14” snare 89 top batter 80 bottom resonant
Pleas help I have an SJC kit
8x12 maple Tom - Evans USA G2 Coated Tom Batter, General Resonant Head
16x16 maple Tom - Evans USA G2 Coated Tom Batter, Genera Resonant Head
18x22 maple Bass - Evans USA E-MAD2 Bass Batter, EQ4 Calftone Bass Resonant Head
6x14 maple snare - Evans G2 coated batter/ Evans USA Clear 300 Snare Side Head
5.5x14 acrylic snare - Evans G2 coated batter/ Evans USA Clear 300 Snare Side Head
12” 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22” bass 73 kick batter 72 front resonant
6x14” snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
5.5x14” snare 89 top batter 82 bottom resonant
What should I tune these to 10x8 12x9 14x14 16x16 and bass 22x18 and snare 14x5 1/2?
+The Koz
10x8 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12x9 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14x14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16x16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22x18 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
14x5 1/2 87 top batter 80 bottom resonant
Hi guys, hoping you could help me - I have an old Yamaha YD kit, standard sizes. single ply top and bottom. I don't want any note bend but I want less sustain and more attack. thanks in advance
For good attack and less sustain, increase the bottom head tension like these suggested tunings:
10" 76 top batter 78 bottom resonant
12" 75 top batter 77 bottom resonant
16" 74 top batter 76 bottom resonant
22" 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
how to tune the drums drum dial:remo pinstripe tom 12,13,floor 16,bass drum remo powerstroke3coated 22'' and snare drum 14''powerstroke3 coated,bottom clear heads,on snare resonant bottom heads.Thanks
+jazzdrummer000
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
13 75 top batter 73 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
14 snare 87 top batter 80 bottom resonant
I have a Mapex Storm 10x7 12x8 16x14. What would you recommend
10” 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12” 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16” 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
Hello, I use Evans Hydraulic Black heads and Evans 24" EMAD2 Clear Bass Drum. You can help me for my settings ?
10"x8"
12"x9"
16"x16"
18"x16"
14"x5,5"
24"x18"
10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
18 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
14 snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
24 74 kick batter 73 front resonant
@@DrumDial Thanks !
hello!just got it and it rocks!!i have only one question ,i use muffle rings,should i take my mesurment with the muffle rings on or without the?thanks!
wolverinesbad, stay to the inside of the muffle ring on the bass drum. No need to remove muffle rings for toms. Your readings will be accurate either way.
thank you for answering!just bought a gretsh catallina maple and i cant get the exact sound that i want for my toms (10'12'14'16) im still working it.. they use evans g1 single ply coated and i have used remo double ply clear heads for over 20 years now.. any suggestion? thank you for your time!
wolverinesbad The following settings will get you very close using the Remo double ply clear top batters over the G-1's as bottom resonants:
10 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
thank you!!
When using muffle rings, no need to remove them. Remember to always tune to the inside of the ring when tuning, this will give you a more accurate tuning and make getting the drums in tune with themselves much quicker.
What setting should Roto Toms be on a Drum dial?
Rotate the Roto Toms to their lowest setting and set each tuning point to 74. The goal is to get the drum in tune with itself and then rotate to your required pitches.
I have 4 toms. Should I tune each to the same tension?
+Nathaniel Clause
Tune to the same or similar tension at the midrange for the best stick response and sound. For example 76 (top and bottom) for the high tom, 75 for the second, 75 for the third and 74 for the lowest tom.
Okay, so….
I am not sure if this question even has anything to do with tuning but I really want an answer.
How does one go about tuning toms and/or floor Tom to basically sound like a THUMP rather than having an actual pitch, or tone.
Please use this clip as an example.
th-cam.com/users/shortstCESCpAWdiI?si=GI67bjnijY0ftaFL
Muffling the drums will give you that thump sound. Internal foam, dead ringers and or gels. Big Fat Snare drum makes some good products to help also.
that software looks cool. Where is that from ?
The software is our own. You can get a similar program called "Audacity" . We use a spectrum analyzer and spectrum analysis to build the filters.
Tuning for Gretsch Catalina Maple Rack Toms 10 inch and 12inch??
10" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
i just got a new set mounted tom 10x7 n 12x8. floor toms 14x12 n 16x14 n bass 22x18 and a snare 14x5-1/2. what should they be tuned to?
+The Koz
10x7 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12x8 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14x12 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16x14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
22x18 72 kick batter 70 front resonant
14x5-1/2 89 top batter 80 bottom resonant
+DrumDial I agree with those settings. its a good standard to follow. However as a metal drummer, I prefer a punchier tone with faster decay. This I tune my resonent head slightly tighter. for example on a 12' tom I'll go 75 for the batter and 76-77 for the reso. On my kick 72 for the batter and 75 for the reso. You get a punchy tone, less overtones and a faster decay. All things considered these measurements may not work for everyone depending on their drums and setup. Just my two cents.
+Paul Daluz Excellent comment! Higher resonant settings are also ideal for studio and close miking applications. Thank you Paul!
+DrumDial Your Welcome. And thankyou for producing an honest product with honest settings in the paperwork that come with it. They are pretty spot on and a good guide to work from to customize your own settings. And you hit the nail on the head. I do mostly studio Metal work. My aforementioned technique is very effective in the studio. All of my reso heads are tuned slightly tighter. But my Batter heads are almost identical to your recommended settings.
Hi!
Tuning for a Pearl Session Studio All Birch (Top heads...Evans EC2)
8x7
10x8
12x9
13x10
14x14
16x16
22x18
Snare 14x5.5 Sensitone (remo ambassador)
Thanks!
8" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant ,
10" 77 top batter 77 bottom resonant
12" 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant ,
13" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
14" 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant ,
16" 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant ,
22" 73 kick batter 73 front resonant
14" snare 88 top batter 80 bottom resonant
i have pearl mmx 10x8,12x10,14x12,16x14.batter emperor coated,resonant ambassador clear...help me for the tensions,thanks
10 x 8 76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
12x10 75 top batter 75 bottom resonant
14x12 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
16x14 74 top batter 74 bottom resonant
un po' bassa a 76,preferisco 81 con le pelli in D sul tom 10
grazie!
wich is the sofware? 3:29
The software is our own. You can get a similar program called "Audacity" . We use a spectrum analyzer and spectrum analysis to build the filters.
But what with 10×8? How to tune this?
76 top batter 76 bottom resonant
@@DrumDial thanks!
Anyone know settings for 8x6 rack Tom?
76 top batter 76 bottom resonant.
Uso una mapex mars series
De casualidad a alguien mas le parese que en esta medida de toms tan cortos es mejor usar una tension mas baja? O solo es mi oido? Yo me encontre comodo con el bater 70 a 73
De 8" a 16" y el resonant todos en 68"
Sí, está bien. Sus lecturas están en el extremo inferior de la gama media, pero funcionará muy bien también.