Getting more and more used to parks cheaping out when it comes to the stations, but man, this is a whole other level. Even the shade tarps are limited. Forget how bad that is for the guests, the poor employees who have to work on it, in the direct sunlight, all day. It's just really sad.
California moment. Luckily the park is right on the water and San Diego doesn't really get super hot to begin with. But yeah, it should have a real station. I think this was a victim of pandemic cost-cutting. Let's just be glad it got built at all!
I agree on all counts. They just need theming now. I wish they had worked in a splash, to more closely fit their penguin theme, but that would have sacrificed an inversion.
When I saw the first renders of the layout I thought that this was a design to be cloned on parks around the world. A great compact full-package layout for a dive coaster. And hearing from you that this is a better version of the european layouts, wich I also found very complete (specially Oblivion Black Hole and Valkirya) makes me think that the Dive Coaster may come back again to the markets, this time for small to medium parks.
Magic Mountain needs a dive coaster. But it will have four drops. The first drop at 90°, will go straight out of the station. The second drop at 96°, will be followed by a Immelmann and a Zero-G roll. The third drop at 85°, will be followed by a 360° Loop and a Dive Loop. And the final drop at 75°, will be followed by a Flat Spin, a Norwegian Loop or Vice Versa, a Splash Down and an Inline Twist.
I would tend to agree. Haven't been overseas, but been on all North American dives and this was my favorite. Your comment about MCBR is spot on. It's kind of like how Goliath feels so much quicker than some of the other hypers without the MCBR.
It's funny how Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia is well-known for its great pacing and the lack of a mid-course break run, but Goliath at Magic Mountain is notorious for its mid-course break run which almost brings the ride to a complete stop every time.
What you said about this ride, that's almost exactly how I felt about Dr Diabolical's when I first rode it. Idk if you already rode it or not but it's an awesome ride and my favorite dive coaster!
I went on emperor in the summer, the ride was amazing, i literally remember nothing but i know i didnt black out. I remember trying to calm myself down at the hold brake and the drop was amazing
Sea World is so much fun, they get a lot of hate which they don't deserve. Sea World San Diego is always a good time. Literally my favorite theme park in Cali even tho I go to Knotts wayyy more and used to go to Disney once a week when their prices and crowds were worth going.
Im a huge fan of this ride. its the only b&m dive I have ridden so i'm kinda worried I will be disappointed when I eventually ride the others, but emperor is a blast! I still think I prefer Hangtime but its not by much. I think it just comes down to the fact that Hangtime has better and more airtime. But I love Emperor definitely an awesome coaster!!1
@@JBMetalProductions yup I have ridden silver bullet. That’s an invert though so still have only ridden one BnM dive, and yeh IK hangtime is a Gurslaure dive, I was just comparing the two dives in California even if one is BnM and one is Gurslaure :-)
I think Yukon Striker has a similar pacing - the midcourse happens after all the inversions and only exists to increase capacity (and theres only one element afterwards with the helix)
@@VECTOR_Coasters Yukon up until the brake run is basically the same distance as the entirety of Emperor. Yukon has the way bigger drop , tunnnel, greater speed, and 4 inversions with fast pacing back to back that take up 80% of the ride. The brake run and what's after it is only there so the ride can have a third train and increased capacity. Yukon is better then Emperor hands down.
@@VECTOR_Coasters It seems strange to me to see a ride as better by removing elements that aren't uncomfortable or painful. You could just pretend that nothing happened after the 5/6-course brake run on Yukon Striker. I like the airtime on the small drop and the hill that follows, and the helix has decent visuals. Those 3 elements may not do much, but it adds a little to the ride for me.
@@OklahomaCoasterFan its like if you have the option of ending the ride when its still going strong vs ending it after doing nothing for 20 seconds i personally would prefer the ending it when its going strong
Not sure if it's just a tall person thing, but the B&M over shoulder restraints always staple me to the seat and actually hurt pretty bad before the ride even starts. During the ride it's usually all I can focus on. With the new vest restraints, I'm able to actually enjoy and focus on the ride experience. I wasn't getting airtime anyway.
I rode this for the first time around a month ago and was super impressed! Not my favorite Dive coaster (that still goes to SheiKra) but I really enjoyed the pacing, and the restraints didn't bother me as much as they did on Valravn. It felt very different from other Dive coasters, almost like a next-gen Floorless coaster. Cool that it's at my new home park!
SW San Diego is a great Home park! Has been mine for 10 years, it doesn’t have the most thrilling rides but hey, Knotts and magic mountain make up for it and they’re not that far 😉
@@gloe9362 I don’t think Belmont Park even has the space to add anything 😅 it’s hardly even a park as it is, just a slab of concrete with a coaster and some carnival games LMAO
Emperor looks to be the best paced by far, I agree! Also, the length looks to be incorrectly listed as 735 feet but at first I just thought "yeah, that's right because it's a short ride" then thought, wait a second.... haha just letting you know :)
One thing I love about swsd is that it’s always dead even though I’ve only visited twice quick queue was an afterthought I believe I got 10-15 rides on emperor in a day
yea the most i’ve ever waited was an hour but that was for arctic rescue on 1 train a few months after it opened. i’ve gone like 20+ times in the past year and usual wait times are like 5-10 mins which is so great
My only Dive Coaster is the Prototype (Oblivion) and even thought that is the drop and an (over?)bank and that's it 😅 What Oblivion does, it does it very well.
Very unique how the drop isn't the best part, the other elements actually feel like a memorable part if the ride, I wonder if thus style of dives are the new generation of dive coasters by B&M.
Emperor is like a mini Yukon Striker. Yukon striker all the way up until the brake run is bigger faster and has element after element just like emperor. Haven't ridden emperor, and my only dive coasters are Yukon and Valravn. I can tell that Emperor is better then Valravn by the pov and pacing, but I'd still say Yukon is a good sized step above Emperor. Can't wait to ride Shiekra at BGT this January. As well as compare Steel Vengeance to Iron Gwazi.
I'm surprised you said it's the most thrilling attraction there. I haven't rode it but I've rode electric eal and that ride is insane! Also I've ridden shiekra immeditely followed by Tigris (electric eal clone) and Tigris is way more intense. Maybe Emperor is more intense than shiekra though. EDIT: Yeah I guess i spoke too soon you just said its way better than shiekra lmao Ill have to use my sea world platinum pass and check this ride out. From the POV of Emporor though it looks slower than Electric Eal
Here’s what I don’t understand right coaster enthusiasts complain about mid-courses but then also complain about operations and short rides just because of operations mid-courses are my favorite elements because they don’t get enough appreciation
I always get good airtime with vest restraints too. It's actually not hard. If coaster youtubers would stop stapling themselves with the vests, they'd get the airtime. It would seem that a vast majority of people prefer vest restraints. Most people who watch coaster youtubers will prefer the headbanging restraints, but that's because the more experienced coaster riders will know how to manage those restraints (and they also think they way they're told to think). The general public, who truly bring in the money for the parks, don't ride coasters enough to know how to avoid headbanging, so they love the vests.
What really intrigues me is it’s not “graceful” but has force and hits the elements at speed. It took 20+ years but they finally learned how to make a good dive lol
I'm so tired of the "drop, brake, drop, brake" model on drop coasters. If I'm dropping over 200 feet, the ride should have a decent length. They just need to forgo the middle brake run and do more ride as opposed to another, shorter drop
I’m going to have to disagree sea world was one of my local parks till the past year I moved i haven’t been on any other dives but I had high hopes because this looks fun I went on it about 5 times both days I went to ride it. I was kinda disappointed I was at the point where I didn’t even want to wait 5 min for it because I felt like I could better spend my time riding other rides at that park.
I have ridden the 5 in the US and I think Dr Diabolical is even better than Emperor. Better theming, pre shows, and you want to sit in the back row right side. Good air-time. Still prefer Griffon and Sheikra over DD and Emperor, but the 2 new ones are easily better than Valravn.
I always thought this looked like the best, or at least near the best, dive. Totally agreed these dives just kill all their speed by running right into the MCBR and it’s all kinda wasted. That 2nd dive is never that special, I’m glad they dropped it and made a full experience.
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Getting more and more used to parks cheaping out when it comes to the stations, but man, this is a whole other level. Even the shade tarps are limited. Forget how bad that is for the guests, the poor employees who have to work on it, in the direct sunlight, all day. It's just really sad.
California moment. Luckily the park is right on the water and San Diego doesn't really get super hot to begin with. But yeah, it should have a real station. I think this was a victim of pandemic cost-cutting. Let's just be glad it got built at all!
bro my tan from working on it is so bad 😭😭
@@blank3078 Yeah but how often does England get sunny 💀
I agree on all counts. They just need theming now. I wish they had worked in a splash, to more closely fit their penguin theme, but that would have sacrificed an inversion.
The view....especially during a night ride, is wonderful. This has the best view of any new Seaworld ride.
The pacing on this looks wonderful
When I saw the first renders of the layout I thought that this was a design to be cloned on parks around the world. A great compact full-package layout for a dive coaster. And hearing from you that this is a better version of the european layouts, wich I also found very complete (specially Oblivion Black Hole and Valkirya) makes me think that the Dive Coaster may come back again to the markets, this time for small to medium parks.
Despite being smaller, the pace and forces on this ride are better than the big dive coasters. What a great ride.
I really enjoyed how whippy this coaster is. A smooth version of their older, intense models
Hopefully we get more of these B&M Dive Coasters in America
Magic Mountain needs a dive coaster. But it will have four drops.
The first drop at 90°, will go straight out of the station.
The second drop at 96°, will be followed by a Immelmann and a Zero-G roll.
The third drop at 85°, will be followed by a 360° Loop and a Dive Loop.
And the final drop at 75°, will be followed by a Flat Spin, a Norwegian Loop or Vice Versa, a Splash Down and an Inline Twist.
@@DavidVitrano that is honestly the worst idea i have ever heard
@@DavidVitrano That is waaayyy out of six flags’s budget
@@Meatloaf8 Not for long.
@@Meatloaf8 not really. Great adventure was planned to get a giga in 2024.
Great video as always!
I would tend to agree. Haven't been overseas, but been on all North American dives and this was my favorite. Your comment about MCBR is spot on. It's kind of like how Goliath feels so much quicker than some of the other hypers without the MCBR.
It's funny how Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia is well-known for its great pacing and the lack of a mid-course break run, but Goliath at Magic Mountain is notorious for its mid-course break run which almost brings the ride to a complete stop every time.
What you said about this ride, that's almost exactly how I felt about Dr Diabolical's when I first rode it. Idk if you already rode it or not but it's an awesome ride and my favorite dive coaster!
Same. But Dr Diabolical has more of a floaty feeling
DIVE COASTER? These are so cool :D
Not just a much needed fit for the park, but for San Diego as a region.
I went on emperor in the summer, the ride was amazing, i literally remember nothing but i know i didnt black out. I remember trying to calm myself down at the hold brake and the drop was amazing
Sea World is so much fun, they get a lot of hate which they don't deserve. Sea World San Diego is always a good time. Literally my favorite theme park in Cali even tho I go to Knotts wayyy more and used to go to Disney once a week when their prices and crowds were worth going.
They never used to get hate until BlackFish and the 2010's came around.
Im a huge fan of this ride. its the only b&m dive I have ridden so i'm kinda worried I will be disappointed when I eventually ride the others, but emperor is a blast! I still think I prefer Hangtime but its not by much. I think it just comes down to the fact that Hangtime has better and more airtime. But I love Emperor definitely an awesome coaster!!1
Silver Bullet at Knotts is a B&M if you've ridden on that one. Hang Time is not a B&M, its made by Gerslauer.
@@JBMetalProductions yup I have ridden silver bullet. That’s an invert though so still have only ridden one BnM dive, and yeh IK hangtime is a Gurslaure dive, I was just comparing the two dives in California even if one is BnM and one is Gurslaure :-)
I think Yukon Striker has a similar pacing - the midcourse happens after all the inversions and only exists to increase capacity (and theres only one element afterwards with the helix)
I agree , emperor is like a mini yukon
if yukon didnt have the mid course and just went to the final brake run i think it would be better
@@VECTOR_Coasters Yukon up until the brake run is basically the same distance as the entirety of Emperor. Yukon has the way bigger drop , tunnnel, greater speed, and 4 inversions with fast pacing back to back that take up 80% of the ride. The brake run and what's after it is only there so the ride can have a third train and increased capacity. Yukon is better then Emperor hands down.
@@VECTOR_Coasters It seems strange to me to see a ride as better by removing elements that aren't uncomfortable or painful. You could just pretend that nothing happened after the 5/6-course brake run on Yukon Striker. I like the airtime on the small drop and the hill that follows, and the helix has decent visuals. Those 3 elements may not do much, but it adds a little to the ride for me.
@@OklahomaCoasterFan its like if you have the option of ending the ride when its still going strong vs ending it after doing nothing for 20 seconds i personally would prefer the ending it when its going strong
Not sure if it's just a tall person thing, but the B&M over shoulder restraints always staple me to the seat and actually hurt pretty bad before the ride even starts. During the ride it's usually all I can focus on. With the new vest restraints, I'm able to actually enjoy and focus on the ride experience. I wasn't getting airtime anyway.
This layout reminds me of a Eurofighter or even Cannibal at Lagoon.
I personally love dive coasters. I've only done oblivion and shieKra but I appreciate them alot
I rode this for the first time around a month ago and was super impressed! Not my favorite Dive coaster (that still goes to SheiKra) but I really enjoyed the pacing, and the restraints didn't bother me as much as they did on Valravn. It felt very different from other Dive coasters, almost like a next-gen Floorless coaster. Cool that it's at my new home park!
SW San Diego is a great Home park! Has been mine for 10 years, it doesn’t have the most thrilling rides but hey, Knotts and magic mountain make up for it and they’re not that far 😉
I loved this coaster, super smooth. Hopefully SW adds more, maybe even take over Belmont park and redo it with coasters.
@@gloe9362 I don’t think Belmont Park even has the space to add anything 😅 it’s hardly even a park as it is, just a slab of concrete with a coaster and some carnival games LMAO
Belmont Park is basically a miniature historic Boardwalk, not the full experience like Santa Cruz.@@triple7marc
Emperor looks to be the best paced by far, I agree! Also, the length looks to be incorrectly listed as 735 feet but at first I just thought "yeah, that's right because it's a short ride" then thought, wait a second.... haha just letting you know :)
Sorry, that’s supposed to say meters, not feet!
RCDB lists 2,411.0 feet which is 735 meters. The 1,450 meters shown in this video also seems to be a typo.
One thing I love about swsd is that it’s always dead even though I’ve only visited twice quick queue was an afterthought I believe I got 10-15 rides on emperor in a day
yea the most i’ve ever waited was an hour but that was for arctic rescue on 1 train a few months after it opened. i’ve gone like 20+ times in the past year and usual wait times are like 5-10 mins which is so great
Emporor is basically just an American version of Valkyria
First time viewer here. Loved this video. Subscribed.
My only Dive Coaster is the Prototype (Oblivion) and even thought that is the drop and an (over?)bank and that's it 😅
What Oblivion does, it does it very well.
you should ride valkyria in liseberg
You know, I think this is one of the best examples of how pacing can change the quality of a ride
When are you getting out to ride dr Diabolical’s cliffhanger??
So it's a bit like a American Valkyria at Liseberg?
That one also has really good pacing
Very unique how the drop isn't the best part, the other elements actually feel like a memorable part if the ride, I wonder if thus style of dives are the new generation of dive coasters by B&M.
I wouldn't exactly say it's a new generation, more of just an evolution. Compare virtually every recent Dive coaster to the OGs (Oblivion, G5, etc).
I actually prefer the vest restraints cause the B&M trains with the old style OTSRs have straight up no shoulder room
@studio732jrl2 Said an adult man with slightly wider than average shoulder width
Are you going to talk about kings island's new expansion?
I think the reason it's only 6 sears across is so it can navigate tighter turns/elements.
probably
It is very weird to not have a station! How do they protect the cars from the elements?
Emperor is like a mini Yukon Striker. Yukon striker all the way up until the brake run is bigger faster and has element after element just like emperor. Haven't ridden emperor, and my only dive coasters are Yukon and Valravn. I can tell that Emperor is better then Valravn by the pov and pacing, but I'd still say Yukon is a good sized step above Emperor. Can't wait to ride Shiekra at BGT this January. As well as compare Steel Vengeance to Iron Gwazi.
I'm surprised you said it's the most thrilling attraction there. I haven't rode it but I've rode electric eal and that ride is insane! Also I've ridden shiekra immeditely followed by Tigris (electric eal clone) and Tigris is way more intense. Maybe Emperor is more intense than shiekra though.
EDIT: Yeah I guess i spoke too soon you just said its way better than shiekra lmao Ill have to use my sea world platinum pass and check this ride out. From the POV of Emporor though it looks slower than Electric Eal
Here’s what I don’t understand right coaster enthusiasts complain about mid-courses but then also complain about operations and short rides just because of operations mid-courses are my favorite elements because they don’t get enough appreciation
In Dr Diabolical’s Cliffhanger you kinda get a floaty feeling but not as much a Griffon and Sheikra
I wish some park would buy a B&M ride with this type of restraint but minus the vest, the over the shoulder lap bar only.
You mean B&M’s original shoulder restraints.
Just rode it Sunday. Found it fun, but, I would take the bigger ones over it.
based on my ride the vest restraints didn't bother me and somehow still gave me some ejector airtime off that drop but its a good ride in my opinion
I always get good airtime with vest restraints too. It's actually not hard. If coaster youtubers would stop stapling themselves with the vests, they'd get the airtime.
It would seem that a vast majority of people prefer vest restraints. Most people who watch coaster youtubers will prefer the headbanging restraints, but that's because the more experienced coaster riders will know how to manage those restraints (and they also think they way they're told to think). The general public, who truly bring in the money for the parks, don't ride coasters enough to know how to avoid headbanging, so they love the vests.
Looks better then Ice breaker
Hey guys,
Keep a watch on those stats please. The length is metres is almost double of what it actually is.
Sorry, it was a typo
Just curious, what percentage speed do you speed up your footage of coasters?
We don’t speed up our footage
lets talk about the station building. sorry forgot it does not have one
What really intrigues me is it’s not “graceful” but has force and hits the elements at speed. It took 20+ years but they finally learned how to make a good dive lol
FYI I think there's a typo on the length in your graphic.
Sorry; we wrote it out quick and missed it!
I'm old. Last time I was at SeaWorld it was all fish and zero coasters.
Same
Same
I'm so tired of the "drop, brake, drop, brake" model on drop coasters. If I'm dropping over 200 feet, the ride should have a decent length. They just need to forgo the middle brake run and do more ride as opposed to another, shorter drop
amazing vid but, the ride has a length of 2411ft of track not 735ft its actually 735 meters
Sorry, typo!
Good review but I feel like Yukon striker has a better layout
when is next episode of coastin thru europe
After we get thru the rest of our cali vlogs!
I’m going to have to disagree sea world was one of my local parks till the past year I moved i haven’t been on any other dives but I had high hopes because this looks fun I went on it about 5 times both days I went to ride it. I was kinda disappointed I was at the point where I didn’t even want to wait 5 min for it because I felt like I could better spend my time riding other rides at that park.
can we pleaaase get an X2 re-review
It’s on the to do list! :)
Let’s. Not forget it was originally gonna be named Mako
Great video, but 735ft isnt 1,450m
Is there a Skyrocket One?
Yes- it’s located at Kennywood
I have ridden the 5 in the US and I think Dr Diabolical is even better than Emperor. Better theming, pre shows, and you want to sit in the back row right side. Good air-time. Still prefer Griffon and Sheikra over DD and Emperor, but the 2 new ones are easily better than Valravn.
I always thought this looked like the best, or at least near the best, dive. Totally agreed these dives just kill all their speed by running right into the MCBR and it’s all kinda wasted. That 2nd dive is never that special, I’m glad they dropped it and made a full experience.
Why are the big dive coasters not like this?😐
Dr. D Cliffhanger is better & way more theming
Emperor or dr diabolical?
Emperor by far.
I got like 30 rides in an hour on emperor on a empty day
yeah that is a lot longer then 735 feet and also 735ft is not 1450m as far as i know
Sorry that’s supposed to say 735 meters!
But aren’t all of these dive coasters basically the same aside from the theme?
They all have the same start with a vertical drop and Immelmann, but vary in size and layouts
Do you guys prefer Baron 1898 or Emperor? Let me know.
I don’t know. I prefer more of a thrill so I’d take the extra 50 plus feet. This almost seems like a floorless coaster
I guess you can say this coaster was a sleeper hit.
It looks alot like valkyria
glad this ride is only 30 seconds that safety harness sucks
I hate dive coasters they coast to much much and they are short of a ride it's just a big drug drop a loop or two and that's it not a fun at all
Which ones have you ridden?
Not better than Dr Diabolical