Hey Michael, is it possible to use this technique on a cylinder, like this faucet: mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/f48e9f29882175.56091c13ef17a.jpg
I've been breaking my head adding cicle planes and fusión them to the object...i will try this tomorrow is like a dream come true 🤣. Thanks for the tutorial.
@@Colorcubic worked like a charm, i dont have problem now to make circules but im struggling using bevel for intersections and places where i dont have space to bevel because i have drawed lines in the direction where the bevel needs to go, resulting on mesh break. Dont worry im looking how to fix this.
This is a nice technique, for creating very simple shapes, but only on surfaces with nice even topology. AFAIK when You'll try creating this kind of circle in a place where you haven't got perfect quads, then it will come out skewed. Still pretty useful cause Cinema 4D still do not have any other kind of tool for creating such shapes quickly and when modeling it's essential.
Yeah, it's not the perfect solution, but it works better than anything else that currently exists within Cinema 4D. I hope, soon, that they address that in a more feasible way. Still pretty useful though.
It should be noted that this method is not recommended with Subdivision surfaces as it creates N-Gons. If you keep your extrusion division lower where it creates a Quad then you’re fine 👌🏼 Also don’t forget to Optimize and delete your extra points.
Eric, This method is recommended to anyone who's not going to be exchanging models between different 3D programs. N-Gons are only an issue if that's the end-user's intent. Otherwise, concern for N-Gons is a moot point. If you have a better solution, I'd love to see it, and learn from your knowledge. Cheers!
I'm a fullmetal beginner. I can model things, but to do that nice and clean, is not so easy. Ur vids are really welcomed! Very good! Useful! Keep goin'!
Thank you. I wanted to add some recessed lights in my indoor pool scene ,and asked google "c4d extrude circle from plane" and voila! it brings me to your site. You've earned a like and subscribe good sir!
Hi @malejude4752 I never thought to do this. I’ll definitely look up what an African tray of eggs looks like, and determine what the deconstruction process looks like, to model it.
very cool. hey, do you know of a modifier to make an inset based on an edge loop? i know i can use the bevel tool, but i prefer to have it editable. thanks!
Yes, the hellatious Ngons this creates around each circle due to the number of points created around the circle's circumference would need a heck of a lot of work to convert the mode back to quads, properly.
It would be a good way to go if it wasn't for all the horrible ngons ;) It actually takes more time than just inner extruding and selectively scaling a polyset to get an all-quads subdividable perfect circle ! But it's still a good technique to know, and and one of the lesser-known functions of the bevel tool...
Thanks for this awesome tut man, but I got two questions. 1. What about those ngons we get all around the circle? 2. Wouldn't be more convenient just using the script "points2circle"? Is there any advantage of doing this technique instead? Thanks, love your channel!!
Hi Ignacio, excellent questions. 1). I get a lot of questions about ngons. Here’s the thing about ngons; unless you’re working on a big production workflow with a team, and you’re unpacking textures for big VFX / CG productions / or video games, it doesn’t matter. And even then, ngons can be utilized, as long as the topology is clean. Ngons are only an issue if it affects the topology. As a practice, I turn off the ngons guides in Cinema 4D, because it interferes with a clear view of the topology. If the topology is clean, then it works. So my recommendation is, don’t worry too much about ngons, unless it’s visibly affecting the topology of your model / scene. With that said, there is an alternative method that I’m working on, that doesn’t result in ngons. I’m going to try to post it before this month is over. Be sure to subscribe to catch when that drops. 2). In regards to scripts, I tend to stay away from scripts in my tutorials, because the intent of my tutorials is to (mainly) show process and to utilize what cinema 4d has to offer without 3rd party scripts. With that said, points2circle is a great script, and you can utilize that as well. The results will essentially be the same. Thanks for the kind words! Looking forward to posting more content.
@@Colorcubic Outstanding explanation. I usually struggle with hardsurface modelling just trying to avoid ngons. But as I'm just a freelance, and I'm not in a team production, I'll try to keep that in mind, thanks!!
@@Colorcubic Oh btw, it's very hard to find good tuts about hard surface processes between c4d+zbrush+substance workflow... would be awesome to see something like that someday :)
I’m not as versed in zbrush as I would like to be. I’ve modeled in it before, quite a few times, but I generally refer most zbrush character modeling to our Colorcubic art director. Substance designer, on the other hand is something I’m fairly familiar with, and may start incorporating more of a workflow between C4D & Substance. For me, it’s all about minimizing the level of 3rd party apps, and utilizing what’s already built into Cinema 4D. It’s such a powerful app, and most people barely scratch the surface. Most of the things one can do in a lot of 3rd party 3D apps can be achieved directly within Cinema 4D.
Excellent question, and funny you should ask, I have 2 new extended videos that will reveal how to knock out an array of holes, without n-gone, on both a flat surface, and a curved surface.
I’m aware, and have a few solutions that’ll work as an alternative. There’s quite a few of the older tutorials that will need to be revisited to work on Cinema 4D R25 - S26
Great question. There is, but it’s a different approach. I’ll be following up with a few alternatives to creating holes with a subdivision surface hypernurb applied.
hi man, thanks for the tutorial by the way, i have question i was tried your trick to cut a circle cut on a rounded surface, but it make triangle quads, how could i fix that?
Hey, sorry for the late response to this. I actually have a different tutorial for what you're describing. It's a different process, but pretty effective.
this is really quick and easy but looks like it produces a ton of ngons. why not just use a boole or a nitro4d plugin if you're wanting to speed model?
This method is about utilizing the resources that you have available to you. No 3rd party plug-ins required. I try to retain that technique in my videos. As far as the Ngons go, I wouldn't worry too much about the ngons. You can always resolve that manually, by either melting the polys where needed, or using the knife tool if you really want to get specific by creating quadrangles. In regards to the boole tool, I would highly advise against using the boole. The reason why is that the boole tool is only native to C4D. Now if you're okay with that, that's fine, but if you ever decide to work in any other 3D program (Unity, Blender, Maya, 3ds Max, etc...), all the work you did with the boole won't be recognized. So, essentially, the boole is a serious time-waster in the long-run. This method retains everything you did, and is recognizable in all major 3D programs, without messing up the phong angles.
Unfortunately this strategy doesn't work in Cinema 4D r14, and earlier. It only works in r15, and later. I'm working on a solution that will accommodate earlier builds of C4D, to help people come to the same outcome.
I'm working on an update to this tutorial, for curved, or circular edges. Took a while to solve that issue, but it works pretty decently. Gonna try to upload the continuation of that in the next week or two.
Hey man, thanks for the awesome tip. I've got a question though . I've selected multiple points and then applied the radieal bevel and it gives me that circular edge just fine. Now , i want to be able to select polygon within this edge and then apply the melt command , but i cant figure out a way to select all those poly's inside it. I dont wanna have to go select all the poly's inside each loop and then apply melt and extrude , as ive got too many points. Can you think of a better way ? Thanks.
Hi Souvick, Yeah, actually Keitto in the comments section suggested a better method, rather than melting the polygons. His suggestion was the following: "activate Corner N-Gons under Topology, it is not necessary to melt the subdivisions." That should fix your problem. I've since started utilizing that tip, and it definitely saves a ton of time. Hope you found that helpful. Let me know how that works out for you. Cheers! - Michael | Colorcubic™
If you're not exchanging 3D models between other programs, worrying about n-gons is kind of a moot issue. This is a terrific, hard-surface modeling solution. If you're concerned about n-gons, perhaps this solutions isn't for you. Cheers! - Michael | Colorcubic®
Awesome, i didn't know that technique!! Thanks a lot!! cheers!!
We need more of theses!!
Thank you, Cheers!
Hey Michael, is it possible to use this technique on a cylinder, like this faucet:
mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/f48e9f29882175.56091c13ef17a.jpg
It is, indeed. It definitely involves a little more attention to detail, so you'll need to get in there and push some polygons around.
Dude! I love you! This is great. I've been looking all over the internet for this.
Really glad you found it useful.
Thanks for the kind words.
Cheers!
- Michael | Colorcubic®
Thanks a lot dude. you are awesome. Love your tutorials.
You're very welcome.
And thanks for the kind words.
Cheers!
I've been breaking my head adding cicle planes and fusión them to the object...i will try this tomorrow is like a dream come true 🤣.
Thanks for the tutorial.
You’re so welcome. Please let me know how it turns out.
@@Colorcubic worked like a charm, i dont have problem now to make circules but im struggling using bevel for intersections and places where i dont have space to bevel because i have drawed lines in the direction where the bevel needs to go, resulting on mesh break.
Dont worry im looking how to fix this.
One the most simple and useful tips that i´ve learned ;)
I’m really glad you found it useful. Cheers!
This is a nice technique, for creating very simple shapes, but only on surfaces with nice even topology. AFAIK when You'll try creating this kind of circle in a place where you haven't got perfect quads, then it will come out skewed. Still pretty useful cause Cinema 4D still do not have any other kind of tool for creating such shapes quickly and when modeling it's essential.
Yeah, it's not the perfect solution, but it works better than anything else that currently exists within Cinema 4D. I hope, soon, that they address that in a more feasible way. Still pretty useful though.
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Very easy to follow. I've worked with C4D for years and never used this technique. Thank you!
Thanks, man! It's those little things that add up to be huge time-savers that I like to share. Hope you find it useful for your workflow.
Awesome. Thank you!
You’re very welcome 🙏🏾
Thank a lot! I was looking very long time for so nice tutorial! You are great!
I'm glad you found it helpful. Cheers!
Mind blowing trick👍 awsome...
Thanks Marko
It should be noted that this method is not recommended with Subdivision surfaces as it creates N-Gons. If you keep your extrusion division lower where it creates a Quad then you’re fine 👌🏼 Also don’t forget to Optimize and delete your extra points.
Eric,
This method is recommended to anyone who's not going to be exchanging models between different 3D programs. N-Gons are only an issue if that's the end-user's intent. Otherwise, concern for N-Gons is a moot point.
If you have a better solution, I'd love to see it, and learn from your knowledge.
Cheers!
Wow! this tip is pure gold. I didn't know. Many thanks!
You’re welcome. Cheers! 🍻
Thank you very much Sir. You just don't know how much this is useful.
I’m really glad you found it useful. Be sure to share how you used it. Would love to see how you incorporate it into your workflow.
I'm a fullmetal beginner. I can model things, but to do that nice and clean, is not so easy. Ur vids are really welcomed! Very good! Useful! Keep goin'!
Thank you!
Great tip! I found out that if you activate Corner N-Gons under Topology, it is not necessary to melt the subdivisions.
Thank you. I wanted to add some recessed lights in my indoor pool scene ,and asked google "c4d extrude circle from plane" and voila! it brings me to your site. You've earned a like and subscribe good sir!
Glad you found it useful. Thank you for subscribing.
WOW! amazing explanation. Subscribed. Thank you!
You're welcome. And thanks for the subscription. :-)
Hi can u please, show how we can model African tray of eggs using this method???? Thanks for the video
Hi @malejude4752
I never thought to do this. I’ll definitely look up what an African tray of eggs looks like, and determine what the deconstruction process looks like, to model it.
Thank you so much!! straight to the point
You’re very welcome
amazing dude, nice to learn something new !
Glad you like it. Cheers!
Very cool I am happy with this information, please continued
glad you like it
Cool and simple....thumb up!
cheers
Wow! Very helpful dude thanks.
You're welcome.
PERFECT TECHNIQUE!! Thanks!
Thanks for the quick tip!!!
Thank you so much! Keep up the great work! Subbed :)
very cool. hey, do you know of a modifier to make an inset based on an edge loop? i know i can use the bevel tool, but i prefer to have it editable. thanks!
In theory, you should be able to, but I’ve never actually tried it.
@@Colorcubic ok, thank you.
cool
Awesome video! I like it
thanks
This is not the right solution for subdiv modelling, but still - cool. Bevel-based modelling is a bit underappreciated.
Yes, the hellatious Ngons this creates around each circle due to the number of points created around the circle's circumference would need a heck of a lot of work to convert the mode back to quads, properly.
What do u suggest? :/
Hang tight. I’ll be uploading 2 new videos addressing this by tomorrow (Monday).
oooh if I know this before... :) thanks man!
super! thanks so much
thanks bro it helps me soo much ❤️
Glad it helped! 🤘🏽
It would be a good way to go if it wasn't for all the horrible ngons ;) It actually takes more time than just inner extruding and selectively scaling a polyset to get an all-quads subdividable perfect circle ! But it's still a good technique to know, and and one of the lesser-known functions of the bevel tool...
Cheers!
Great, thank you
Great one
Thank you!
useful technic，thx for sharing!
You're welcome.
Cheers!
Unfortunately not available as options for the bevel tool in C4D R14 or before (not sure about R15).
Thank you so Much!
You’re very welcome!
Thanks for this awesome tut man, but I got two questions.
1. What about those ngons we get all around the circle?
2. Wouldn't be more convenient just using the script "points2circle"? Is there any advantage of doing this technique instead?
Thanks, love your channel!!
Hi Ignacio, excellent questions.
1). I get a lot of questions about ngons. Here’s the thing about ngons; unless you’re working on a big production workflow with a team, and you’re unpacking textures for big VFX / CG productions / or video games, it doesn’t matter. And even then, ngons can be utilized, as long as the topology is clean. Ngons are only an issue if it affects the topology. As a practice, I turn off the ngons guides in Cinema 4D, because it interferes with a clear view of the topology. If the topology is clean, then it works. So my recommendation is, don’t worry too much about ngons, unless it’s visibly affecting the topology of your model / scene.
With that said, there is an alternative method that I’m working on, that doesn’t result in ngons. I’m going to try to post it before this month is over. Be sure to subscribe to catch when that drops.
2). In regards to scripts, I tend to stay away from scripts in my tutorials, because the intent of my tutorials is to (mainly) show process and to utilize what cinema 4d has to offer without 3rd party scripts. With that said, points2circle is a great script, and you can utilize that as well. The results will essentially be the same.
Thanks for the kind words! Looking forward to posting more content.
@@Colorcubic Outstanding explanation. I usually struggle with hardsurface modelling just trying to avoid ngons. But as I'm just a freelance, and I'm not in a team production, I'll try to keep that in mind, thanks!!
@@Colorcubic Oh btw, it's very hard to find good tuts about hard surface processes between c4d+zbrush+substance workflow... would be awesome to see something like that someday :)
I’m not as versed in zbrush as I would like to be. I’ve modeled in it before, quite a few times, but I generally refer most zbrush character modeling to our Colorcubic art director. Substance designer, on the other hand is something I’m fairly familiar with, and may start incorporating more of a workflow between C4D & Substance. For me, it’s all about minimizing the level of 3rd party apps, and utilizing what’s already built into Cinema 4D. It’s such a powerful app, and most people barely scratch the surface. Most of the things one can do in a lot of 3rd party 3D apps can be achieved directly within Cinema 4D.
great!
how to do this on a sphere or curved surface?
Excellent question, and funny you should ask, I have 2 new extended videos that will reveal how to knock out an array of holes, without n-gone, on both a flat surface, and a curved surface.
Awesome, this makes the project to surface obsolete in most cases....
hehe, yup
Awesome. Thank you. New sub.
this doesnt work on R25
I’m aware, and have a few solutions that’ll work as an alternative. There’s quite a few of the older tutorials that will need to be revisited to work on Cinema 4D R25 - S26
is there a way to cut a smooth hole into an object with subdivision surface applied to it?
Great question. There is, but it’s a different approach. I’ll be following up with a few alternatives to creating holes with a subdivision surface hypernurb applied.
hi man, thanks for the tutorial
by the way, i have question
i was tried your trick to cut a circle cut on a rounded surface, but it make triangle quads, how could i fix that?
Hey, sorry for the late response to this. I actually have a different tutorial for what you're describing. It's a different process, but pretty effective.
Anyone else tried this, however when you add a SDS you get distortion around the circle?
this is really quick and easy but looks like it produces a ton of ngons. why not just use a boole or a nitro4d plugin if you're wanting to speed model?
This method is about utilizing the resources that you have available to you. No 3rd party plug-ins required. I try to retain that technique in my videos. As far as the Ngons go, I wouldn't worry too much about the ngons. You can always resolve that manually, by either melting the polys where needed, or using the knife tool if you really want to get specific by creating quadrangles. In regards to the boole tool, I would highly advise against using the boole. The reason why is that the boole tool is only native to C4D. Now if you're okay with that, that's fine, but if you ever decide to work in any other 3D program (Unity, Blender, Maya, 3ds Max, etc...), all the work you did with the boole won't be recognized. So, essentially, the boole is a serious time-waster in the long-run. This method retains everything you did, and is recognizable in all major 3D programs, without messing up the phong angles.
Great
But what if it's a grid of circles, how do I melt them without having to go on each one?
that is really helpfull
thank you
You're welcome. :-)
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why the heck are there 10 thumbs down on this tip? Thanks for sharing this
Some people are cruel. ;-)
wow man niiice
realy thanks for tutorial !!!
+ 1 subs
You're welcome. Thanks for the subscription. :-)
why i have not the option depth? c4d r13
Unfortunately this strategy doesn't work in Cinema 4D r14, and earlier. It only works in r15, and later. I'm working on a solution that will accommodate earlier builds of C4D, to help people come to the same outcome.
its working just in default plane for sure.
I'm working on an update to this tutorial, for curved, or circular edges. Took a while to solve that issue, but it works pretty decently. Gonna try to upload the continuation of that in the next week or two.
wow..Thanks,
You're welcome
Hey man, thanks for the awesome tip. I've got a question though . I've selected multiple points and then applied the radieal bevel and it gives me that circular edge just fine. Now , i want to be able to select polygon within this edge and then apply the melt command , but i cant figure out a way to select all those poly's inside it.
I dont wanna have to go select all the poly's inside each loop and then apply melt and extrude , as ive got too many points. Can you think of a better way ?
Thanks.
Hi Souvick,
Yeah, actually Keitto in the comments section suggested a better method, rather than melting the polygons. His suggestion was the following:
"activate Corner N-Gons under Topology, it is not necessary to melt the subdivisions."
That should fix your problem. I've since started utilizing that tip, and it definitely saves a ton of time.
Hope you found that helpful.
Let me know how that works out for you.
Cheers!
- Michael | Colorcubic™
I love you.
@colorcubic do you know how to connect the bevel back to a plane ? i need to create something looking like a dumbbell
another question : when i tried is the size of the circle i could created was bounded by the space of the segments around
nice
impressive
thank you
unusable if you need quads very good if you box out shape without subd.
can you gyz tell me what processor and graphics card is best for c4d?
you can use it no problem from a mocbook pro
Like and sub
like sub you are awsome
thank you :-)
Doing that you will get horrible topology around your circle.
Only if there's a curve to the surface of your object (which I'm working on a new tutorial to solve that problem).
bad topology n-gons really !!
If you're not exchanging 3D models between other programs, worrying about n-gons is kind of a moot issue. This is a terrific, hard-surface modeling solution. If you're concerned about n-gons, perhaps this solutions isn't for you.
Cheers!
- Michael | Colorcubic®
Lots of N-Gons this way actually. Unfortunately C4D is not meant to be for hard surface modeling.