Coming back to this to see if it's been solved. Relative to other lost songs this one should be easier to solve. "Winds Of Change" almost certainly takes its cue from the expression popularized by The Scorpions after January 1991, when the band released their hit by the same name, to commemorate the fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989. The expression became popular even among non-metal audiences and the general population. This also agrees with the timing of the "Madchester" sound which began in October 1988 with "Elephant Stone," peaked in 1989-1991 and continued until late 1994. By 1995 it had morphed into Brit Pop. You could still find "Madchester" releases in 1995 but they were in steady decline. Imo the sound combined with the reference to "Winds of Change" places the song around 1991-1992.
I definitely think the title is 'Winds of Change', due in part by the wind sound effects at the beginning as well as the imagery of 'autumn', leaves and snow and the change of the seasons. I cannot believe this one has not been solved yet. Edit: after making this comment I noticed at the beginning before the verse starts there are whispers of "listen, listen, listen, listen, listen" so that might be the title???
I have this album....this is the opening track and its Wavestation by Wavestation recorded in 90 released very limited in 91 very limited cd release....1. Wavestation 2. Let it all go 3. Edge of night 4.Fall Away 5. I Know 6. Another Fish 7. Rain 8. Waters edge cafe. There was a second album called Mona Lisa released in 94 and also an album called "Audio Virus" that remains unreleased. A few years later the Brothers Rob Drew (r.i.p.) guitars etc. and Buzz Drew vocals etc. had a 90's metal project FA-Q and released the album EACH HIT then nothing that I know of. Before Wavestation they had a metal band called Witchfawn.......they are originally from Canada and migrated to Seattle in the early to mid 90's where they recorded (Wavestation) Mona Lisa and (FA-Q) EACH HIT. There are 8 tracks on that cd and a bonus unlisted track called "Beer Patrol" by Witchfawn.
Woah! The flow of the song is almost as rigid, yet beautiful as the waves in the ocean, hehe. It’s a pretty decent song, anyways, thanks for uploading this, chap. ^w^ Let’s hope this one get identified soon, heh.
Definitely born out of the early 90s "Madchester" scene, even if not geographically from the English northwest. Instantly recognizable sound to anyone who was into the scene at the time.
So I found this band on Discogs called Wavestation. They have one album, and on it is a song also titled Wavestation. I was thinking this could possibly be our song. The band is a 90s rock band from Canada, the only problem is their only album was released in 1994. I messaged the two sellers so we will wait and see. I also had another thought that it could be Battle Bratt-Winds Of Change (1985). They released an album in 1989 which has a song on it called Winds Of Change. While it is not our song, it sounded remarkably similar. I found that they have an earlier release in 1985 which also has that song on it. It was mentioned in their bio that they changed singers in 1984, so it could be that they recorded a version with him for the 1985 release.
@@lostwavefinder587 which one? Wavestation or Winds Of Change? Winds Of Change (1989 version) is on TH-cam and I have no proof that 1985 is any different.
@@lostwavefinder587 Not to get your hopes up, but I got this message from one of the sellers: are you the bears bull cubs fan? the answer to everyones question will finally be answered. yes, this band Wavestation is the band in the youtube video that no one has been able to figure out. song on youtube is the song called wavestation. listed as 3 minutes and 53 seconds long (1 second less than the youtube video). pretty sure they are from seattle (cd was made in canada). the label the cd is on is ATP out of seattle. management in booklet says citizen dick productions (citizen dick was matt dillons band with members of pearl jam from the movie Singles). hope that helps. let the world know ;) let me know if you have any other questions. thanks.
@@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 We have looked and determined that Wavestation is probably not the band behind this song. We found other projects from the bandmembers and they sound nothing like this song stylistically, and the singer doesn't sound like this singer one bit either. Still would be nice to hear the Wavestation album as it is currently lost music as well.
posted this on reddit and someone found a really good lead, band named wavestation. they have one album titled mona lisa and on it theres a song called wavestation. im 100% sure we're gonna find it because it makes sense from the lyrics.
We found a few songs with the same vocalist and the singer sounds nothing like this singer. That album is also from 1994 and this was recorded in 1991-92
Well it would appear that this was the answer! This version is a demo and the album version is different. And the singer probably sounds different because of the degraded quality of the tape
@@lostwavefinder587LOL you guys can never hear the similarities between singers EVER! You always say that people sound nothing like the singer yet this time it WAS the real singer. Next time, any even remote similarity makes a possibility.
I absolutely hate how this and that guglielm "thought so at the time" song are still unsolved. both are clearly from vinyl and have rather good production (and both are almost full) but it's been over 10 years for both and just *nothing* . It's actually downright insane.
@@snop7476Just a thought, from what I've been reading the band (Conspiracy) that we're talking about is a different band. Here's the channel that has at least one of their known songs on it... youtube.com/@LowlyArtist?si=yVXRK1E_8iRtiqJE It's the second video when you use the newest first option.
As a Metal head myself I love to listen to underground bands and this one sounds like it was around the 87-90’s. The reason why I think this is because of the wind sound effect in the beginning “the wind” this was common for underground and mainstream songs to do since it set up an ambience. One band that nobody knows about is Battle Brat they did this. Check this out: th-cam.com/video/ecgc6SCJz1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=M8u_yqqvbNiEw7p8 also th-cam.com/video/uxK60EnSrQA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QgKiNxEYBSOi1ukV
A band local to where this was recorded. I think Evan found them but we have no contact with any of the members and no audio is available anywhere. I strongly believe this is the key to this mystery.
@@lostwavefinder587 I found the MySpace page of the band conspiracy, but it doesnt have this song. I don't think this is by conspiracy tbh. That band is listed as a "progressive metal band", and this song doesn't fall into that category. And why would a Canadian radio station play a song from a band in New mexico?
I've just looked, and you are right. I was told for some reason they were a Canadian band so you may be right that this isn't the solution 😒😒😒😒😒😒 I would still like audio of the album to confirm
I am beginning to think Conspiracy is not the band, as they are labeled 'progressive metal band' on Discogs and this is absolutely not metal of any sort. This was also recorded in Canada and Conspiracy is from New Mexico, US
@@lostwavefinder587 My thoughts on the genre not fitting are mixed, since bands like Filter, The Doors, The Who and numerous others have made non-genre fitting songs. (Pinball Wizard, The Soft Parade, Take a Picture all are well recognizably the same band, but not the genre). According to progarchives, (which used the original website for Conspiracy, now defunct, for their description), Conspiracy was a Crossover Prog band from the UK. Did I mention that it was founded by Chris Squire, the bassist for influential prog rock band Yes, as well as Billy Sherwood, who was also a prog artist? As well as this, on the discography for self-titled "Conspiracy' (which although was released in 2000, still relavant) by Squire was recorded/ mixed in a place titled "The Office / The Bunker / The Living Room, which upon a google search, shows a few candidates for where it might've been recorded. It could've also been Squire's personal studio, quote Discogs "Studio that was located in Virginia Water, Surrey, UK. Also called New Pipers Studio” Another studio Squire knew of was under Genesis' Steve Hackett's place - "Steve also has a studio in Twickenham, so we recorded my bass parts there” quote Squire himself. Squire and Hackett formed a duo called Squackett at one point, which could further stipulate this. It was likely mastered at Oceanview Digital Mastering in LA, as with many other Yes albums, by Joe Gastwist, who worked there at the time and is credited on the Conspiracy credits.
So, I sent Gastwist an email through his old mastering page, but no luck. "Hi [Name], Sorry but it’s not ringing a bell. I Worked on Conspiracy a long time ago and my memory is not that great. Good luck & best regards, Joe" Cheers to him. Sadly, doesn't lead us any closer. Just waiting for a response, then.
@@clint5740 if he doesn't recognize it then it's most likely not from Conspiracy. The circumstances also make it pretty unlikely given this song was recorded on Canadian radio and the band was from USA and there have been very few cases of *obscure* foreign songs being played on different countries radio stations before like the 2000's
@@lostwavefinder587Personally, I wouldn't rule out Conspiracy (Belen, New Mexico. Drummer: Tommy Sanchez. Just so I know we're on the same track here) just yet. Unless we can have access to audible proof of any song on Under Siege (the cassette) or Cannot Be Tamed (the CD), it would be a good idea to keep them on the table.
Solved! Wavestation-Wavestation (1994). Just uploaded the audio!
Oh my god, it was actually this one? wow, thank you so much!
@@lostwavefinder587 Well. It could be that the lostwave version is a demo.
that's pretty much what we're thinking. Now I guess we need to find out if the band still has the demo version
The album version is good but personally I prefer this demo.
Coming back to this to see if it's been solved. Relative to other lost songs this one should be easier to solve. "Winds Of Change" almost certainly takes its cue from the expression popularized by The Scorpions after January 1991, when the band released their hit by the same name, to commemorate the fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989. The expression became popular even among non-metal audiences and the general population. This also agrees with the timing of the "Madchester" sound which began in October 1988 with "Elephant Stone," peaked in 1989-1991 and continued until late 1994. By 1995 it had morphed into Brit Pop. You could still find "Madchester" releases in 1995 but they were in steady decline. Imo the sound combined with the reference to "Winds of Change" places the song around 1991-1992.
I definitely think the title is 'Winds of Change', due in part by the wind sound effects at the beginning as well as the imagery of 'autumn', leaves and snow and the change of the seasons. I cannot believe this one has not been solved yet.
Edit: after making this comment I noticed at the beginning before the verse starts there are whispers of "listen, listen, listen, listen, listen" so that might be the title???
I have this album....this is the opening track and its Wavestation by Wavestation recorded in 90 released very limited in 91 very limited cd release....1. Wavestation 2. Let it all go 3. Edge of night 4.Fall Away 5. I Know 6. Another Fish 7. Rain 8. Waters edge cafe. There was a second album called Mona Lisa released in 94 and also an album called "Audio Virus" that remains unreleased. A few years later the Brothers Rob Drew (r.i.p.) guitars etc. and Buzz Drew vocals etc. had a 90's metal project FA-Q and released the album EACH HIT then nothing that I know of. Before Wavestation they had a metal band called Witchfawn.......they are originally from Canada and migrated to Seattle in the early to mid 90's where they recorded (Wavestation) Mona Lisa and (FA-Q) EACH HIT. There are 8 tracks on that cd and a bonus unlisted track called "Beer Patrol" by Witchfawn.
Would you be willing to rip the album and share the songs in high quality?
Woah! The flow of the song is almost as rigid, yet beautiful as the waves in the ocean, hehe. It’s a pretty decent song, anyways, thanks for uploading this, chap. ^w^ Let’s hope this one get identified soon, heh.
solved now =D
Definitely born out of the early 90s "Madchester" scene, even if not geographically from the English northwest. Instantly recognizable sound to anyone who was into the scene at the time.
So I found this band on Discogs called Wavestation. They have one album, and on it is a song also titled Wavestation. I was thinking this could possibly be our song. The band is a 90s rock band from Canada, the only problem is their only album was released in 1994. I messaged the two sellers so we will wait and see.
I also had another thought that it could be Battle Bratt-Winds Of Change (1985). They released an album in 1989 which has a song on it called Winds Of Change. While it is not our song, it sounded remarkably similar. I found that they have an earlier release in 1985 which also has that song on it. It was mentioned in their bio that they changed singers in 1984, so it could be that they recorded a version with him for the 1985 release.
This is a good lead, song length matches up with the sample we have. I am trying to find more info now
@@lostwavefinder587 which one? Wavestation or Winds Of Change? Winds Of Change (1989 version) is on TH-cam and I have no proof that 1985 is any different.
@@lostwavefinder587 Not to get your hopes up, but I got this message from one of the sellers: are you the bears bull cubs fan? the answer to everyones question will finally be answered. yes, this band Wavestation is the band in the youtube video that no one has been able to figure out. song on youtube is the song called wavestation. listed as 3 minutes and 53 seconds long (1 second less than the youtube video). pretty sure they are from seattle (cd was made in canada). the label the cd is on is ATP out of seattle. management in booklet says citizen dick productions (citizen dick was matt dillons band with members of pearl jam from the movie Singles). hope that helps. let the world know ;) let me know if you have any other questions. thanks.
@@lostwavefinder587 I am going to purchase the CD, but I also asked for audio today. We will see what happens.
@@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 We have looked and determined that Wavestation is probably not the band behind this song. We found other projects from the bandmembers and they sound nothing like this song stylistically, and the singer doesn't sound like this singer one bit either. Still would be nice to hear the Wavestation album as it is currently lost music as well.
it's crazy how the original post was made before i was born and the song still hasnt been found
and now it haaaaaaaaaas =D
@@-throat- YEA I POSTED IT ON REDDIT AND SOME GUY FOUND IT IM SO HAPPY
posted this on reddit and someone found a really good lead, band named wavestation. they have one album titled mona lisa and on it theres a song called wavestation. im 100% sure we're gonna find it because it makes sense from the lyrics.
We found a few songs with the same vocalist and the singer sounds nothing like this singer. That album is also from 1994 and this was recorded in 1991-92
Well it would appear that this was the answer! This version is a demo and the album version is different. And the singer probably sounds different because of the degraded quality of the tape
@@lostwavefinder587 LOL I KNEW IT
@@lostwavefinder587LOL you guys can never hear the similarities between singers EVER! You always say that people sound nothing like the singer yet this time it WAS the real singer. Next time, any even remote similarity makes a possibility.
Playstation calls out to all who will listen the truth that we cannot deny
This is what I hear in the 2nd line lol
LOL
X2
Same!
ok this one needs to be identified lol it's so catchy
The fact that this was found gives me hope for the other CFNY song (CIA)
I absolutely hate how this and that guglielm "thought so at the time" song are still unsolved. both are clearly from vinyl and have rather good production (and both are almost full) but it's been over 10 years for both and just *nothing* . It's actually downright insane.
same for Poor-Christmas, we literally have what the artist and title probably are but it's most likely just not anywhere on the internet :/
lmfao this ended up not being from vinyl
@@lostwavefinder587 damn ig its over for TSATT 😭😭😭
@@lostwavefinder587oh yeah btw are you going to post TSAAT
@@mistaegg2639 Possibly since i have posted 2 other Guglielm songs
As I have said in Jay Kay’s comment section, I think the real name of this song is Winds of Change
or something about autumn
@@lostwavefinder587 or leaves perhaps?
@@lostwavefinder587 What genre would this be? I figure some type of rock, but unsure beyond that.
check discogs maybe?
@@blackhawksnbullsncubsnbear4615 i have no clue? either some sort of rock or experimental or even alt
Second part sounds like Pink Floyd
the band that is thought to have written this song (conspiracy) actually did a cover of the wall which explains a lot
@@snop7476Just a thought, from what I've been reading the band (Conspiracy) that we're talking about is a different band.
Here's the channel that has at least one of their known songs on it...
youtube.com/@LowlyArtist?si=yVXRK1E_8iRtiqJE
It's the second video when you use the newest first option.
As a Metal head myself I love to listen to underground bands and this one sounds like it was around the 87-90’s. The reason why I think this is because of the wind sound effect in the beginning “the wind” this was common for underground and mainstream songs to do since it set up an ambience. One band that nobody knows about is Battle Brat they did this. Check this out: th-cam.com/video/ecgc6SCJz1I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=M8u_yqqvbNiEw7p8 also
th-cam.com/video/uxK60EnSrQA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QgKiNxEYBSOi1ukV
I agree that with the wind sound trend though
I think the wind sound effects makes it pretty clear the title is 'Winds of Change'
That bass in the beginning reminds me of Rock Lobster
He sounds like the singer of Samurai Jack intro
Where did "Conspiracy - Winds Of Changes" come from?
A band local to where this was recorded. I think Evan found them but we have no contact with any of the members and no audio is available anywhere. I strongly believe this is the key to this mystery.
And also the wind noise at the beginning kind of confirms this
@@lostwavefinder587 I found the MySpace page of the band conspiracy, but it doesnt have this song. I don't think this is by conspiracy tbh. That band is listed as a "progressive metal band", and this song doesn't fall into that category. And why would a Canadian radio station play a song from a band in New mexico?
I've just looked, and you are right. I was told for some reason they were a Canadian band so you may be right that this isn't the solution 😒😒😒😒😒😒 I would still like audio of the album to confirm
I decided to pop a tweet to the keyboardist of Conspiracy to see if he knows the whereabouts. Will put in an edit as I find out, if he responds.
I am beginning to think Conspiracy is not the band, as they are labeled 'progressive metal band' on Discogs and this is absolutely not metal of any sort. This was also recorded in Canada and Conspiracy is from New Mexico, US
@@lostwavefinder587 My thoughts on the genre not fitting are mixed, since bands like Filter, The Doors, The Who and numerous others have made non-genre fitting songs. (Pinball Wizard, The Soft Parade, Take a Picture all are well recognizably the same band, but not the genre).
According to progarchives, (which used the original website for Conspiracy, now defunct, for their description), Conspiracy was a Crossover Prog band from the UK. Did I mention that it was founded by Chris Squire, the bassist for influential prog rock band Yes, as well as Billy Sherwood, who was also a prog artist?
As well as this, on the discography for self-titled "Conspiracy' (which although was released in 2000, still relavant) by Squire was recorded/ mixed in a place titled "The Office / The Bunker / The Living Room, which upon a google search, shows a few candidates for where it might've been recorded. It could've also been Squire's personal studio, quote Discogs
"Studio that was located in Virginia Water, Surrey, UK. Also called New Pipers Studio”
Another studio Squire knew of was under Genesis' Steve Hackett's place - "Steve also has a studio in Twickenham, so we recorded my bass parts there” quote Squire himself. Squire and Hackett formed a duo called Squackett at one point, which could further stipulate this.
It was likely mastered at Oceanview Digital Mastering in LA, as with many other Yes albums, by Joe Gastwist, who worked there at the time and is credited on the Conspiracy credits.
So, I sent Gastwist an email through his old mastering page, but no luck.
"Hi [Name],
Sorry but it’s not ringing a bell.
I Worked on Conspiracy a long time ago and my memory is not that great.
Good luck & best regards,
Joe"
Cheers to him. Sadly, doesn't lead us any closer. Just waiting for a response, then.
@@clint5740 if he doesn't recognize it then it's most likely not from Conspiracy. The circumstances also make it pretty unlikely given this song was recorded on Canadian radio and the band was from USA and there have been very few cases of *obscure* foreign songs being played on different countries radio stations before like the 2000's
@@lostwavefinder587Personally, I wouldn't rule out Conspiracy (Belen, New Mexico. Drummer: Tommy Sanchez. Just so I know we're on the same track here) just yet. Unless we can have access to audible proof of any song on Under Siege (the cassette) or Cannot Be Tamed (the CD), it would be a good idea to keep them on the table.
The lyrics must have taken 192 years to come up with
Reminds me of "I'm a man" with chicago somehow.
Agent orange lost demo?
No