3:23 the frame 6:01 start 7:17 follow pressure by coming up 13:52 turtle from mount 16:01 sitting up 21:49 sit up or escape away 23:23 elbow escape stiff arm far hip 28:35 sit up vs always pulling guard 30:00 side control sit up escapes 32:44 defending bow and arrow from top
I've been trying this with some success based on the other mount video. I survived the chokes people put on me but it was pretty miserable so I'm hoping I can improve on that. That said, being under mount is a miserable place and I did at least survive. Priit's shrimp is similar to John Danaher's "rising shrimp". Danaher also teaches the frame across the hips, although he doesn't emphasize grabbing the hip (or even turning to your side). Danaher is great, but I actually think Priit's system is far more sophisticated and brilliant. It's intuitive in that you use similar mechanics throughout and your movements tie into each other and counter-intuitive in that some things you wouldn't expect to work, do work. The thing that I love about all this is that Priit uses a BOTTOM UP approach (conceptually, not just literally) and explains things with logic. That way, things make sense. Most Jiu-jitsu is taught TOP DOWN - in this situation, do "technique X" and don't worry about why. The techniques are isolated. The problem with the TOP DOWN approach is that there are too many situations! (On a side note, some people are no doubt going to accuse Priit of talking too much. These people are idiots.) The cool thing about jiu-jitsu is that rolling tends to iron out bad habits and, even with ineffective teaching, we can simply look at the best players in competition to try and figure out what truly works. I know Priit has taken inspiration from great players like Telles. Anyway, very cool stuff as usual. This channel as a whole is absolutely amazing.
I think it is because it is simple and have answers to several different things. I like these things that are optimal. With one action you answer several different questions.
With all your systems, that have greatly improved my game btw, this video has really "clicked" with me the most and truly put the systems you teach into focus for me. My regret is not getting the opportunity to watch this one sooner, though I have been using the arm from another video I saw you show the arm from bottom mount. Thank you for all your generous content. It's a real game changer. I hope I get to attend a seminar with you one day.
There is always a counter to whatever is shown,question is,does it work better than the traditional way we are taught to escape the position? Can you combine it with other escapes you already know? I think that the answer is definitely yes (from testing it out in rolls) You definitely have to come up when they posture up or you are in trouble but if you maintain awareness and keep the frame attached to the hip it's a pretty solid defense. His point about knowing when to reset is key as well
Hello I wanted to say that From your videos that I have seen ,they have help me very much to be better in BJJ, I am better in every thing that have with BJJ.my dream is to train with you one day . Wish you all the best from Sweden 🙏🇸🇪🙃
Where should you aim the elbow of your framing arm? It looks like Priit keeps it between the top player's legs. I have very long arms so I expect it to look different for me. Anybody familiar with this style of defense who can help?
It seems to me so much of this discussion really depends on whether or not you want to be defensively sound vs strikes as well. Panda and turtle and “they can’t do anything in mount” seems to be much less defensively sound vs an opponent who can strike. A lot of gyms that focus on Bjj still do train positions and techniques with a nod to the possibility of strikes and that is VERY IMPORTANT to some of us. This is not to say I don’t think any of his points are valid, but of the 5 hours or so of his that I’ve watched/listened to, it just seems he doesn’t pay any mind to this whatsoever.
You know one of the things about me too is I’m all about escaping but I’m all about countering there’s almost everything that I do the counters. And then it turns into movements today we were talking at class it’s not about positions it’s about the movement that you get into the creates that position. I think it’s interesting because I was at a seminar and it was world champions teaching a jujitsu one of the guys was teaching a bit well I went over worked out for a minute and then I went back over to my professor which is Professor Pedro Sauer and I asked him what happens if they push the leg like this? He turned to me and says let’s work on the move and not worry about that stuff but when I worried about that stuff that move did not work. And the thing is it’s like I totally agree if you want to learn how to defend yourself versus Jujitsu you need to learn Jujitsu everything about Jujitsu. If you want to learn more about beating other things then you need to have more information that’s why I have a black belt in judo that’s why I do stand up fighting that’s why I do jujitsu that’s why I do a few different kinds of jujitsu and I totally agree with this guy I appreciate that way of thinking and I’ve always done it
There is no need to go double under like he does at 13:37. I go top arm under leg, bridge off top toe and get back to a neutral position or better at least 80% of time. No way I am satisfied with stopping at side control. Rather stay in mount.
th-cam.com/video/jQtShdHJhFQ/w-d-xo.html One year later, Pedro Sauer shows a baby-bridge mount escape like the one you have been showing for some time. Sauer still cares about the neck too much, though. Your "click in the hip" works way better in my experience.
Yup...his arrogant, “give me a Brown Belt” blew up in his face. He was even beginning to breath heavy and he was in a body triangle, which is WAY worse than being mounted. 😂👍☝️🙏👊😂
If anyone reading the original comment hasn't seen Priits back escape videos, I suggest you do. It'll shed light on the back-taken position he ends up in. Showing how it can be made safe. Even though IBJJF points-wise it's a downgrade, in that position you're much closer to standing up than in bottom mount.
3:23 the frame
6:01 start
7:17 follow pressure by coming up
13:52 turtle from mount
16:01 sitting up
21:49 sit up or escape away
23:23 elbow escape stiff arm far hip
28:35 sit up vs always pulling guard
30:00 side control sit up escapes
32:44 defending bow and arrow from top
Have tried it and it works!! This guy is defying all we thought we knew. Break the rules and step outside what you were taught!
:)
I've been trying this with some success based on the other mount video. I survived the chokes people put on me but it was pretty miserable so I'm hoping I can improve on that. That said, being under mount is a miserable place and I did at least survive.
Priit's shrimp is similar to John Danaher's "rising shrimp". Danaher also teaches the frame across the hips, although he doesn't emphasize grabbing the hip (or even turning to your side). Danaher is great, but I actually think Priit's system is far more sophisticated and brilliant. It's intuitive in that you use similar mechanics throughout and your movements tie into each other and counter-intuitive in that some things you wouldn't expect to work, do work.
The thing that I love about all this is that Priit uses a BOTTOM UP approach (conceptually, not just literally) and explains things with logic. That way, things make sense. Most Jiu-jitsu is taught TOP DOWN - in this situation, do "technique X" and don't worry about why. The techniques are isolated. The problem with the TOP DOWN approach is that there are too many situations! (On a side note, some people are no doubt going to accuse Priit of talking too much. These people are idiots.)
The cool thing about jiu-jitsu is that rolling tends to iron out bad habits and, even with ineffective teaching, we can simply look at the best players in competition to try and figure out what truly works. I know Priit has taken inspiration from great players like Telles.
Anyway, very cool stuff as usual. This channel as a whole is absolutely amazing.
Thank you :)
I think it is because it is simple and have answers to several different things. I like these things that are optimal. With one action you answer several different questions.
With all your systems, that have greatly improved my game btw, this video has really "clicked" with me the most and truly put the systems you teach into focus for me. My regret is not getting the opportunity to watch this one sooner, though I have been using the arm from another video I saw you show the arm from bottom mount. Thank you for all your generous content. It's a real game changer. I hope I get to attend a seminar with you one day.
Thank you!
This stuff is gold thanks priit
You are welcome!
I am completely intrigued with this statements. I am taking notes...
There is always a counter to whatever is shown,question is,does it work better than the traditional way we are taught to escape the position? Can you combine it with other escapes you already know? I think that the answer is definitely yes (from testing it out in rolls) You definitely have to come up when they posture up or you are in trouble but if you maintain awareness and keep the frame attached to the hip it's a pretty solid defense. His point about knowing when to reset is key as well
:)
Priit is amazing! Can listen to this guy philosophize on Jiu Jitsu all day. I attempt to implement all of his escapes; and they work (for me).
Incredible...as usual.
:)
This is Gold! Im definitely going to use this!! Oss
Hello
I wanted to say that From your videos that I have seen ,they have help me very much to be better in BJJ, I am better in every thing that have with BJJ.my dream is to train with you one day .
Wish you all the best from Sweden 🙏🇸🇪🙃
Thank you very much! :) ...I am happy that I am able to help
@priit mihkelson you mentioned that ryron gracie does a thai clinch in mount to do the bridge roll escape? 27:00
This is good. I can buy IOD from here. Thank you
Thanks!
Brilliant
Where should you aim the elbow of your framing arm? It looks like Priit keeps it between the top player's legs. I have very long arms so I expect it to look different for me. Anybody familiar with this style of defense who can help?
It seems to me so much of this discussion really depends on whether or not you want to be defensively sound vs strikes as well. Panda and turtle and “they can’t do anything in mount” seems to be much less defensively sound vs an opponent who can strike. A lot of gyms that focus on Bjj still do train positions and techniques with a nod to the possibility of strikes and that is VERY IMPORTANT to some of us. This is not to say I don’t think any of his points are valid, but of the 5 hours or so of his that I’ve watched/listened to, it just seems he doesn’t pay any mind to this whatsoever.
turtle doesnt work with strikes? be more active like you would mounted with strikes. watch colby lawler. mma stand ups happen from turtle alot
Fucking gold mine.
Is there MMA version of that position?
You know one of the things about me too is I’m all about escaping but I’m all about countering there’s almost everything that I do the counters. And then it turns into movements today we were talking at class it’s not about positions it’s about the movement that you get into the creates that position. I think it’s interesting because I was at a seminar and it was world champions teaching a jujitsu one of the guys was teaching a bit well I went over worked out for a minute and then I went back over to my professor which is Professor Pedro Sauer and I asked him what happens if they push the leg like this? He turned to me and says let’s work on the move and not worry about that stuff but when I worried about that stuff that move did not work.
And the thing is it’s like I totally agree if you want to learn how to defend yourself versus Jujitsu you need to learn Jujitsu everything about Jujitsu. If you want to learn more about beating other things then you need to have more information that’s why I have a black belt in judo that’s why I do stand up fighting that’s why I do jujitsu that’s why I do a few different kinds of jujitsu and I totally agree with this guy I appreciate that way of thinking and I’ve always done it
does he call it hawking cause he looks like steven hawking
Bro I’ve been wondering this 😂
There is no need to go double under like he does at 13:37. I go top arm under leg, bridge off top toe and get back to a neutral position or better at least 80% of time. No way I am satisfied with stopping at side control. Rather stay in mount.
I want to see if he can defend top level black belt's attacks
This guy changed my entire game smh
th-cam.com/video/jQtShdHJhFQ/w-d-xo.html
One year later, Pedro Sauer shows a baby-bridge mount escape like the one you have been showing for some time.
Sauer still cares about the neck too much, though. Your "click in the hip" works way better in my experience.
It didn't work in this match th-cam.com/video/pBNUZdoE8cY/w-d-xo.html
i don't think he would have tapped if the wall wasn't there
exchange bottom mount for my back being taken? No thanks.
Rynman Manno turtle defense.
Yup...his arrogant, “give me a Brown Belt” blew up in his face. He was even beginning to breath heavy and he was in a body triangle, which is WAY worse than being mounted. 😂👍☝️🙏👊😂
If anyone reading the original comment hasn't seen Priits back escape videos, I suggest you do. It'll shed light on the back-taken position he ends up in. Showing how it can be made safe. Even though IBJJF points-wise it's a downgrade, in that position you're much closer to standing up than in bottom mount.