Agreed 100%. As one who has made adapters for the 7x10 to fit in the bags it was a chore. Thank goodness that GroundZero offered the 6x9" Comp Series. Excited to get these in. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@NVSAUDIO WOW!!! Double the RMS, so I can bridge these at 4 ohms: 500 watts x 2 channel (2)gzcf6.5 and (2)gzcf69 with the same slope of 12 at 80 hertz? They can handle that much power no issues for the 6.5 or 6x9?
Which one would be best Hertz 6x9 neo or the yellow basket 6x9's...?? I have a 2015 Victory Magnum with 6x9 lids I was gonna go with the Hertz, but if these give a lil more bass I could settle for the yellow basket.
Different price points The hertz is still Me favorite The mid bass is the same on both but the hertz is a 3 way so the highs are better plus the hertz is a neo magnet so it’s lighter ( less weight on the lid ) and stronger . The hertz are $600 a set These are $350 A set . Both great speakers but both are at different budgets
I have a pair of the 6.5 yellow baskets and plan on adding these 6x9s yellows to my lids. Will a 800.4 amp work to power all 4 of them or what do you recommend. Thank you!!😢
The diamond audio neo 6x9 is awesome But they are $730 a pair If you can afford them and have enough power to run them ( 250 - 500 watts each ) Then they are the hands down speaker to go with . If you have less than $500 to spend Then these are the 6x9s for you .
Thanks for this information- what do you think about this speaker for the bags Velocity-Razor 6x9" Component Speaker Kit, I have already updated my 2019 CVO SG with a RF system, I was thinking about replacing the RF saddle bag 5x7 speakers to the Velocity-Razor 6x9" Component Speaker Kit from American hard bag?-- your thoughts?--thanks again.
Have you seen the new soundstream 14 and up head unit? Really curious to what you think about it because I trust your judgment. Thanks for the awesome info and videos
How do you feel about using the 6.5's in the fairing and the tourpak pods and the 6x9's in the lids on my 17 CVO Limited using the diamond audio lid kits?
Thanks for this information--question, what do you think about this speaker for the bags Velocity-Razor 6x9" Component Speaker Kit, I have already updated my 2019 CVO SG with a RF system, I was thinking about replacing the RF saddle bag 5x7 speakers to the Velocity-Razor 6x9" Component Speaker Kit from American hard bag?--- your thoughts?--thanks again.
350$ Dammmm. That’s entry level? Edit My man is mad scientist and knows his Shitt I’m so glad I watched this video I thought 7x10 was the end all to be all. Thanks playa
Would the yellow baskets produce more midbass than the MSPro 65 from diamond I'm just trying to get a better opinion from someone who knows and installs these I'm wanting to build my bike but I don't have 5k to spend building it to be something that produces great sound
Different price points The hertz is still Me favorite The mid bass is the same on both but the hertz is a 3 way so the highs are better plus the hertz is a neo magnet so it’s lighter ( less weight on the lid ) and stronger . The hertz are $600 a set These are $350 A set . Both great speakers but both are at different budgets
@@NVSAUDIO Hey Carlos! Do you build custom files for the DSR1 that you can email? Trying to get better mid bass out of my SX690 neo. In the video you mentioned using the gasket with the spacer. Do you apply the gasket to the spacer or the other edge of the speaker?
Hey Carlos love your videos just curious I have a 2015 street glide special with a stock radio that is failing do you have any used radios for that bike I know the sony 7000 is a nice replacement but I like the stock radio Thanks for all your great videos
@@NVSAUDIO thanks again found a used radio I have a stock 2015 street glide special with 4 speakers made by hogtunes will need the radio flashed since the bike it is coming from only has two speakers not really looking to add an amp do you need a dsp to help with sound or only if you use an amp and is flashing the radio something you could do for me. Thanks Chris
They advertise that the frequency response is down to 50hz. You said they only play to 80hz. I also noticed the hertz sx690 neo says it plays down to 65hz. Is it normal to not play them as low as they advertise and if so, why is that?
This is one of the reasons I do videos The numbers on the box aren’t always accurate When I tested the hertz Mille Pro 6x9 verses the hertz neo 6x9 the milled pro was supposed to Play lower . It did not the neo out performed it in every category ( check out my video of the 2 head to head ) th-cam.com/video/9F9ROAIFHqw/w-d-xo.html The hertz plays well below 50 Hertz but at 130 watts ( listed rms power ) Same with the ground zero 50 Hertz at 100 watts We tested these speakers at 300-400 watts So at higher power you need to raise the crossover point to Keep from destroying the speakers. You will Not create really good mid bass at 100 watts It takes 200 watts or more to really get the cone moving ( more x max = more spl ) So I’ll take 300 watts at 80 Hertz over 100 watts at 45 hertz .
@@NVSAUDIO I played around with my DSR1 yesterday trying to get better mid bass out of my lid speakers. I tried basic tune first then the advanced tune. The mid bass started to sound really good. I can honestly say I don't know what I'm doing. I stopped so I don't damage anything. I'm somewhat catching on though. I have a pre tuned no flash GTS file installed in my DSR1 right now. It sounds OK but I know my system can sound better with the proper tune. I purchased the Techno Research scan tool and used the soundz 8 speakers 2 amps flash that you recommend. I have db drive euphoria EX6NCD bridged to my sound digital Evox 1200.4-2ohm in my fairing then hertz sx690 neo in my rockford fosgate lid kit wired normal on channels 3 and 4.
Dsp Sound digital evox 400.4 the tweeters 800.4 on the 8s Or a 1200.2 To Run everything with our special crossovers to protect the tweeters ( $80 A pair )
Ha Ha 100% Friendly Competition is a Great to have in business, We are sure you do realize that a Ground Zero or any speaker made by any manufacture that uses the standard tweeter design will in no way even slightly compete at any level with a Diamond Audio MO75T Shallow Horn Custom mounted in a grill that I fabricate personally ?? meaning a Diamond Audio Shallow Horn or any name brand horn's Technology even a Hertz is far superior in it's performance than any standard titanium or soft dome tweeter on Planet Earth, but we have a open mind and are always interested in being shown differently, for me myself? Show me a 2014 & up Harley with one pair of yellow basket 6.5's & one pair of yellow basket 6x9's that will produce more DB's than our DB Meter in our Video's / Again this is all on friendly terms, Carlos does great video's and we can all learn from one another, that is the ultimate goal in this never ending quest creating Great Sounding Harley Audio !! "Happy New Year"
@@702motoringlasvegas4 Can we get another video of the Soundstream HDHU14? How is it compared to the GTS? Can you see it on a roadglide in direct sunlight?
@@702motoringlasvegas4 that wouldn’t even be a fair challenge The diamonds are way more expensive and I would never put a horn speaker up agains a regular coax . Ground zeros are entry level weather proof speakers with excellent mid bass The diamond audio are mid level powerful and extremely loud with less mid bass . I more fair comparison would be The diamond audio vs the cicada vs the Beyma Same Price point Very similar design
I have the RF stage 3 that I bought from my local RF dealer and installed it myself. My HD dealer flashed my eq flat. RF dealer was out of tms400 and sold me the m5 800.4. Does that mean that I should consider the Hertz neo or GZ?
i swear this is the hardware you need.. what? how about T/s parameters..... i swear they are the best. how about using DATS to get t/s parameters, and let us look at the specs, that , i swear got to go. proof
Carlos once again you have put out a video that is both educational and cost effective for the consumer...can't wait to get my bike done
We want to see the red basket coax you teased us with. Lol
I wish these were out a year ago. Before I bought the 7x10s
Thank you for volume that I can hear!
Agreed 100%. As one who has made adapters for the 7x10 to fit in the bags it was a chore. Thank goodness that GroundZero offered the 6x9" Comp Series. Excited to get these in. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I just screwed mine in. no adapter
Carlos great info once again. I would like to install a pair of the GZ6x9 & a pair of GZ6.5 Would you recommend a SD800.4 or a SD1200.4 to push them.
What setup did you decide to go witj?
I used the 702 motoring kit with Diamond 6x9 MP694 it worked great
Glad to hear, Happy New Year !!
Seems like a good option for a boat too? Trying to find some replacements that can handle 100-150w rms each
I would definitely not use these on a boat get something with a plastic cone or carbon fiber
GREAT Video Carlos !! >> Happy New Year
Love your videos Carlos. You’re the Best!
How many watts did you apply to the speaker on the bench test. Due to your brilliance, I just ordered a set and want to tune them to your suggestion.
Just over 300 watts each with a dsp
And a 12
Db slope
At 80
Hertz
@@NVSAUDIO WOW!!! Double the RMS, so I can bridge these at 4 ohms: 500 watts x 2 channel (2)gzcf6.5 and (2)gzcf69 with the same slope of 12 at 80 hertz? They can handle that much power no issues for the 6.5 or 6x9?
Stupid question but someone is trying to argue me down..but these aren't louder than a cicada horn correct?
@@newmoney8128 correct
These have more mid bass
The cicada is way way louder
@@NVSAUDIO okay thanks
loving your videos...thinking of getting my '22 Indian Chief Super Limited some audio
Great review! Grtz from Europe
Nice Merry Christmas to me,,,
Which one would be best Hertz 6x9 neo or the yellow basket 6x9's...?? I have a 2015 Victory Magnum with 6x9 lids I was gonna go with the Hertz, but if these give a lil more bass I could settle for the yellow basket.
Which did you end up going with?
@@nen9 I ma do the Hertz 6x9 neo and the WDX DB DRIVE Moto in the fairing
How does it compare to the Hertz SX 690 neo?
Different price points
The hertz is still
Me favorite
The mid bass is the same on both but the hertz is a 3 way so the highs are better plus the hertz is a neo magnet so it’s lighter ( less weight on the lid ) and stronger .
The hertz are $600 a set
These are $350
A set . Both great speakers but both are at different budgets
I have a pair of the 6.5 yellow baskets and plan on adding these 6x9s yellows to my lids. Will a 800.4 amp work to power all 4 of them or what do you recommend. Thank you!!😢
What is the spacers part number? Please
Thanks a lot Carlos. Now I need to replace my 7x10's. JK Great video.
Where did you get the custom emblem for the grill?
@@DBMC6 I make them in house on my laser
Your a "stand up guy"--thanks for the info
What's the best & loud 4-6X9 for your bags
@nvsaudio Hey Carlos I have 2021 road glide and want to install the ground zero yellow basket 6.5’s and these 6x9’s. When will you have these 6x9’s?
Carlos what do u think about the diamond Audio ms69neo ? Or the new ground zero
The diamond audio neo 6x9 is awesome
But they are $730 a pair
If you can afford them and have enough power to run them ( 250 - 500 watts each )
Then they are the hands down speaker to go with .
If you have less than $500 to spend
Then these are the 6x9s for you .
Thanks for this information- what do you think about this speaker for the bags Velocity-Razor 6x9" Component Speaker Kit, I have already updated my 2019 CVO SG with a RF system, I was thinking about replacing the RF saddle bag 5x7 speakers to the Velocity-Razor 6x9" Component Speaker Kit from American hard bag?-- your thoughts?--thanks again.
GZ 6x9 vs Diamond 6x9 with cone
, can you compare those 2
Have you seen the new soundstream 14 and up head unit? Really curious to what you think about it because I trust your judgment. Thanks for the awesome info and videos
How do you feel about using the 6.5's in the fairing and the tourpak pods and the 6x9's in the lids on my 17 CVO Limited using the diamond audio lid kits?
Perfect
Except the tour pack pods would need a huge spacer
Run the hertz sx165 in the tour pack pods
Ground zero in the fairing and lids
Thanks for this information--question, what do you think about this speaker for the bags Velocity-Razor 6x9" Component Speaker Kit, I have already updated my 2019 CVO SG with a RF system, I was thinking about replacing the RF saddle bag 5x7 speakers to the Velocity-Razor 6x9" Component Speaker Kit from American hard bag?--- your thoughts?--thanks again.
I'm thinking of maybe finding a pair of the 7x10 and removing the tweeter and mids. Put it in the bag.
350$
Dammmm. That’s entry level?
Edit
My man is mad scientist and knows his Shitt
I’m so glad I watched this video I thought 7x10 was the end all to be all. Thanks playa
Which spacers can we use with them? I can’t find any that works with the boss kit
Please help us out
We use the spacers from American Hard Bags
Would the yellow baskets produce more midbass than the MSPro 65 from diamond I'm just trying to get a better opinion from someone who knows and installs these I'm wanting to build my bike but I don't have 5k to spend building it to be something that produces great sound
Hertz or Yellow basket neo?
Which do you think has more mid bass? 8" ground zero or new 6x9 ground zero?
8s
How do these compare with the Hertz 690 neo in terms of volume and frequency response?
Different price points
The hertz is still
Me favorite
The mid bass is the same on both but the hertz is a 3 way so the highs are better plus the hertz is a neo magnet so it’s lighter ( less weight on the lid ) and stronger .
The hertz are $600 a set
These are $350
A set . Both great speakers but both are at different budgets
which speaker will give you a better mid bass the ground zero 6X9 yellow or the Hertz Neo 6X9
Same
I measured
The mid bass is the same
But the hertz has better highs
But the hertz cost $250 more
@@NVSAUDIO Hey Carlos! Do you build custom files for the DSR1 that you can email? Trying to get better mid bass out of my SX690 neo. In the video you mentioned using the gasket with the spacer. Do you apply the gasket to the spacer or the other edge of the speaker?
Could you run two of these 6x9's in the dual 6x9 lids......is there enough room
Wish they would make a neo version of this though... those bag lids be heavy lmao
How do this 6 by 9 compared to mmatts 6 by 9
Love it. What amp is best for it? Can I keep the stock H-D audio and change out the speakers?
You will
Definitely need a amp
Sound digital evox 800.4
Diamond audio micro 4
Arc moto 720
Euphoria xpert ex4
All really great amps
@@NVSAUDIO
I know nothing about audio other than I love it loud. Next year (Early summer) I call to schedule with you. Riding from WA state.
I might have to pick up a set to replace my Rockford Fosgate 6x9s that are in my 2007 Streetglide
Do you sell the weatherproof 6x9 gasket, So you don’t have to seal with silicone?
Yes
www.crutchfield.com/p_120SPHKC/Install-Bay-SPHKC-Speaker-Installation-Kit.html
What subwoofer do you recommend for a 2021 can am Spyder.
Hey Carlos love your videos just curious I have a 2015 street glide special with a stock radio that is failing do you have any used radios for that bike I know the sony 7000 is a nice replacement but I like the stock radio Thanks for all your great videos
I usually buy them used on the Harley Facebook buy / sell forums
@@NVSAUDIO Thanks for replying yes i have been looking around maybe for the new gts radio thanks again
@@NVSAUDIO thanks again found a used radio I have a stock 2015 street glide special with 4 speakers made by hogtunes will need the radio flashed since the bike it is coming from only has two speakers not really looking to add an amp do you need a dsp to help with sound or only if you use an amp and is flashing the radio something you could do for me. Thanks Chris
Sorry I don't know anything about bike audio. What's the difference between bike and car audio
They advertise that the frequency response is down to 50hz. You said they only play to 80hz. I also noticed the hertz sx690 neo says it plays down to 65hz. Is it normal to not play them as low as they advertise and if so, why is that?
This is one of the reasons I do videos
The numbers on the box aren’t always accurate
When I tested the hertz Mille
Pro 6x9 verses the hertz neo 6x9 the milled pro was supposed to
Play lower . It did not the neo out performed it in every category ( check out my video of the 2 head to head )
th-cam.com/video/9F9ROAIFHqw/w-d-xo.html
The hertz plays well below 50
Hertz but at 130 watts ( listed rms power )
Same with the ground zero 50
Hertz at 100 watts
We tested these speakers at 300-400 watts
So at higher power you need to raise the crossover point to
Keep from destroying the speakers.
You will
Not create really good mid bass at 100 watts
It takes 200 watts or more to really get the cone moving ( more x max = more spl )
So I’ll take 300 watts at 80
Hertz over 100 watts at 45 hertz .
@@NVSAUDIO I played around with my DSR1 yesterday trying to get better mid bass out of my lid speakers. I tried basic tune first then the advanced tune. The mid bass started to sound really good. I can honestly say I don't know what I'm doing. I stopped so I don't damage anything. I'm somewhat catching on though. I have a pre tuned no flash GTS file installed in my DSR1 right now. It sounds OK but I know my system can sound better with the proper tune. I purchased the Techno Research scan tool and used the soundz 8 speakers 2 amps flash that you recommend. I have db drive euphoria EX6NCD bridged to my sound digital Evox 1200.4-2ohm in my fairing then hertz sx690 neo in my rockford fosgate lid kit wired normal on channels 3 and 4.
Are ground zero subwoofers better then TRF??
Okay GZ 6x9 vs. Hertz 6x9 neo?
do u have a link for the boss lid kits??
As always good info!
What's the best way to mount 6/9s in the side of the bags wall?
How are these compared to Mmats 690.4 cx?
What amp do you recommend to run just the ground zero 8s and a set of tweeters?
Dsp
Sound digital evox 400.4 the tweeters 800.4 on the 8s
Or a 1200.2
To
Run everything with our special crossovers to protect the tweeters ( $80
A pair )
Witch one is better those are the hertz
Will the 6x9 be a direct replacement for my 2015 Victory Magnum X1? Also do they offer a 2ohm option? Thanks
?
Paul lives by diamond audio. Lol
I think he's slowly becoming a sound digital fan to compliment his diamond audio equipment. Lol
Ha Ha 100% Friendly Competition is a Great to have in business, We are sure you do realize that a Ground Zero or any speaker made by any manufacture that uses the standard tweeter design will in no way even slightly compete at any level with a Diamond Audio MO75T Shallow Horn Custom mounted in a grill that I fabricate personally ?? meaning a Diamond Audio Shallow Horn or any name brand horn's Technology even a Hertz is far superior in it's performance than any standard titanium or soft dome tweeter on Planet Earth, but we have a open mind and are always interested in being shown differently, for me myself? Show me a 2014 & up Harley with one pair of yellow basket 6.5's & one pair of yellow basket 6x9's that will produce more DB's than our DB Meter in our Video's / Again this is all on friendly terms, Carlos does great video's and we can all learn from one another, that is the ultimate goal in this never ending quest creating Great Sounding Harley Audio !! "Happy New Year"
@@keithbell8690 We very much like Soundigital as we do Diamond Audio Amps... :)
@@702motoringlasvegas4 Can we get another video of the Soundstream HDHU14? How is it compared to the GTS? Can you see it on a roadglide in direct sunlight?
@@702motoringlasvegas4 that wouldn’t even be a fair challenge
The diamonds are way more expensive and I would never put a horn speaker up agains a regular coax .
Ground zeros are entry level weather proof speakers with excellent mid bass
The diamond audio are mid level powerful and extremely loud with less mid bass .
I more fair comparison would be
The diamond audio vs the cicada vs the Beyma
Same
Price point
Very similar design
Yessss...
its 300 for a pair?
Check our pops speakers from chicago. The car and bike guys here live by them.
On bikes? Lol pops has to do be dead by now or 120 years old. Lol i'd say the hertz have to be better.
I Got the Diamond cut in kit no speakers from Paul@702motoring
How or where can I get ground zero in the USA ?
With this fit in a Rockford Fosgate leg kit
Do they fit hertz lid kit?
Yes
I have the RF stage 3 that I bought from my local RF dealer and installed it myself. My HD dealer flashed my eq flat.
RF dealer was out of tms400 and sold me the m5 800.4. Does that mean that I should consider the Hertz neo or GZ?
Sweet
What mix was that Michael Jackson Phil Collins andn The Weekend?
Classic. I totally forgot about that
Sickick remix Michael Jackson &Phil Collin
@@tonycurrence6701 Thanks Bro
Sickick I can Feel It
@@NVSAUDIO 👍
Will this fit the CVO lids with no modifications
With 5x7 to 6x9 kit from American Hard Bag..
www.americanhardbag.com/pages/2014-present-5x7-to-6x9-velocity-diamond-audio-lid-adapter-kit
@@NVSAUDIO will these work ok with boom audio stage two will amps need to be upgraded as well. Im not a big audio guy thats why Im asking.
Why did I click the dam video? Now I have to have these. Can U call me tomorrow so u can install them while U have my bags with U!
Lol 😂
where can I buy those ?
We have them in stock
@@NVSAUDIO I'll call tomorrow
you need a box to get low
i swear this is the hardware you need.. what? how about T/s parameters..... i swear they are the best. how about using DATS to get t/s parameters, and let us look at the specs, that , i swear got to go. proof