I'm a reviewer on Wayfarer, you have to be careful to also take a good quality photo with no direct sunlight like in your example which washed out the photo, that would not be accepted. In your evidence photo you have to have the thing your submitting in it and everything around it showing it's accessible. I would not just take a shot of the sidewalk, you need the POI in the photo as well. So in this example you'd stand further back from the overlook trail sign and take a shot of it that shows the sign and surrounding sidewalk. Other than that the rest of this is spot on 👍
@@gurota1786 You have L17 cells (little one, they are the cells we see in the video) You also have L14 cells (bigger one, not shown in the video) An L14 cell contains 8 x 8 = 64 L17 cells. The number of existing/visible pokestops in Pokémon Go determine the number of possible gym in the L14 cell. 1 pokestop = 0 gym 2 to 5 pokestops = 1 gyms 6 to 19 pokestops = 2 gyms 20+ pokestops = 3 gyms
@@Synestro. appreciate the reply man! I kinda understood what you said, but still confused on how the stop becomes a gym. So like theres two stops near me for example, how can i help to bump the stop and make it a gym
A couple things: 1) Show the POI in the secondary photo. That helps the reviewer reconcile the location. 2) Look into IITC. That’s a resource that allows you to overlay existing Wayspots on top of an S2 cell map. That’s probably an entire video itself, but it’s an invaluable tool for the serious Wayfarer.
I apologize for the harsh words, but this video is....rough. Great video idea overall but there's a lot of misinformation. I know most of these points of been made already, but I wanted to compile everything I noticed into a list for you for some general future advice. It's clear that you're not entirely sure how S2 cells work or how to refer to them and their levels. You can only have one Pokestop per Level 17 S2 cell. Level 14 S2 cells are the ones that determine gym creation. Also, the Ingress Intel Map (IITC) is your best bet if you want a map of the S2 cells. The website you linked is not fully accurate with the cells, and it's also user-submitted, so many, many pokestops will not show on it (and if they do, they might be in the wrong location and possibly the wrong cell). IITC is much more accurate, MUCH more helpful (i.e. it can mark off occupied level 17 cells for you), and easier to use. Your supporting photo should SHOW the poi and as much of its surroundings as possible. Reviewers usually rely on the supporting photo to help confirm the location of your nomination, so if you're not showing it in your supporting photo, you risk a rejection for "Fake" or "Mismatched Location." You shouldn't be encouraging people to submit pokestops at their houses. Private Residential Property is ineligible and will be rejected, including little free libraries in front of your house. The list of categories is NOT a list of what's eligible - it's a list that Niantic uses to categorize Wayspots by type, which they could implement in future Niantic games. You should also talk more about Wayfarer. wayfarer.nianticlabs.com is the website where people can manage their nominations (edit/withdraw/view status) and also review other people's nominations. It also has criteria pages that are absolutely vital to learning how to submit good candidates: wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/new/criteria/eligibility Minor wording adjustment - "navigational signs" are not all eligible. It kinda sounds like you're encouraging people to submit road signs. You submitted a trail marker (which is awesome! Glad you got those accepted!) I'm sure you have some questions - PLEASE feel free to join the Wayfarer Discussion Discord server (discord.gg/niawayfarer). There are many, many experienced Wayfarers there that would 100% be willing to offer you advice for future videos, or just advice for anything Wayfarer related in general (nomination improvement, S2 cells, etc). Thank you for reading if you made it this far, I do apologize for all the criticism but I feel like it needed to be said. Thanks for encouraging Wayfaring.
100%. I got about 15 pokestops made within a 1km radius of my rural home just by walking around and paying attention. Some were rejected and needed to be resubmitted before they got accepted. I'm waiting on an appeal to see if one I might be able to reach from home is accepted. Using IITC-CE mobile app with the Pokemon Go scripts added helped a lot.
but the voting process is so slow my first nomination is being voted on since last August... By that speed my other 10 nominations will be done voting in a few years :C
Thanks for getting the word out for nominating POI's. I still can't stress other players enough to get on Niantic Wayfarer and rate these nominations. It really does take a community to get these POI's through.
As someone who has gotten stops created in our community, I cant stress enough how important it is to familiarize yourself with wayfarer, sign up, rate stops your self and pay attention when youre playing to what approved stops have for pics and descriptions. Mimic those conditions and you will get approved.
!! The list of categories is not a list of eligible candidates!! There are things like elementary schools listed there. The list is to categorize your nomination, so that the category tags can be used in new Niantic games do differentiate objects
@@whiterabbit6341 Officially Niantic has 3 general categories that a nomination should fit. They are exploration, exercise, and social. In the past year Niantic has moved away from saying this or that is categorically eligible.
Great video for beginners about the S2 cells. As someone else said, the supporting photo needs to have what you are submitting in it, so that reviewers can make sure it is really where you pinned it. Also, those categories are NOT what is eligible. "Elementary school" for example is a category and is specifically not allowed. And if you are going to encourage people to submit, please encourage people to review. The backlog in Cary NC is two years and four months to get a decision. I really love how you encouraged people to look in open S2 cells and not submit garbage nominations, but anything placed on the property of a single family residence is ineligible.
That may be the "rule", but it's a stupid one and is obviously not enforced. Some people have yard art at their single family dwelling and it IS a pokestop. As it should be. An example of this was a very large giraffe statue someone had created and anchored on their lawn. It was interesting to see as you went by.
@@whiterabbit6341 the “rule” is in place for real, legal reasons. All these people with yard art and little free libraries or whatnot- they are NOT signing up for all the attention it would bring as a Pokestop. Or worse, a gym. Do you know how creepy it would be to have the same car stopping every day in front of your house to spin a stupid Pokestop? Can you even imagine the mess it would make if it was a gym and people sat in front of their house for minutes at a time battling a gym or doing a raid? Do you know how many cops would be called? Do you know what would happen to Niantic if angry homeowners sued for trespassing? Guess what bud, lawsuits have happened before and they could happen again.
😂 This is the reason why fewer and fewer players submit Pokestop nominations because some Niantic wannabes wanna ruin the fun out of it. As if Niantic is paying them 😂😅
Great info for beginners looking to submit Pokestops. Another huge Pro Tip that might actually have the biggest collective impact is to get more people involved with reviewing submissions on Wayfarer so there doesn’t continue to be such a huge backlog/bottleneck of submissions! If you could do a video instructing people how to get set up there and encourage more to do review others' submissions, I think it would make an even bigger overall impact on the number of Pokestops we start seeing around!
Sir we need more videos on this. Like do videos on places u try that didnt vs that did become pois because im judt starting out n it would be very benficial
I've been doing this since 2019 when it became available in PoGo.. I have to disagree with some of Billy's suggestions. 1- use IITC mobile.. with the grid overlay. you don't have to mark off any existing stops. because IITC pulls in all of Niantic Wayfarer POIs in Ingress and PoGo... I use IITC all the time. 2- the list of what the POI you submit is NOT what is accepted. it is just a list of what POIs could be.. doesn't mean it is accepgtable.. I've created over 500 stops and no idea how many gyms I've triggered.
Great timing for this video cuz someone on my street knows the deal lol. I walked outside yesterday and we had 2 more poke stops added and one former one turned into a gym. It was great lol
Big piece of advice - anything that is on a residential property (such as in front of a house) will automatically be rejected. Also - do NOT try to create pokestops at places that may interfere with emergency services such as hospitals! EDIT: Another piece of advice - don't mention anything about the games in your submissions. Wayfarer is about creating an accurate database, "The more pokestops the better" isn't a good reason for a PoI to be added.
Hey in the video you said you'd add the link to the S2 Cells map in the video description. But I can't find any link to that there. Did you forget to add it?
As soon as you said the street Del Prado, my ears perked up as I used to own the Dry Cleaners right there behind Shwack! So awesome! Great video as always.
I’ve literally just been going through the process of submitting my first wayspots ever this past week I’ve had 3 accepted and 4 rejected People marked all of the rejected ones as mismatched locations even though they were all spot on submissions It’s quite frustrating but I think I can get the one I appealed to go fully through
@@TheTrainerClub yea stay consistent i did my first in November took did so many took me 4-5 days to get my first upgrade. created my first pokestop used my upgrade was accepted in like 2 days. i havent dont any nominations in like a month but ive done like 400 nom reviews have another upgrade i can use like 25% from another and in great standings with warfarer
Don’t bother waiting on appeals, when you submit do it 10x, will speed up the process drastically. As long as 1/10 is accepted you can then just delete the other ones
@@Fo9xIdle that doesn't speed up anything. Because of proximity rules, only one of them will go into Voting at a time. So that's a waste of submissions and time. Also, if you are spamming ineligible candidates, you can receive warnings for that which could lead to bans. If you’re confident that what you’re submitting is eligible, instead of spamming, just look for ways to improve and resubmit with the improvements after a rejection.
Thanks for making the video. The Pogo community needs to know what they can do to improve the game. However, there were a lot of things that were missing. - S2 cells. Without going into detail you should mention the different sizes and what they mean. (Also, I must have missed it but I didn't see the link for S2 cells in the description). - Approval process. This is just as, if not more, important than the submission process. If people really want to add more POIs they also need to get set up on wayfarer and review/approve them. It's peer approved and, as a long time submitter, the more submissions just back log the system. Another huge thing, the review community can be extremely petty at times. You'll either have people arbitrarily rejecting POIs because they are quickly going through the reviewing process to get the wayfarer agreement badge. Or you'll get Karens who reject POIs because of the tiniest of details. The more reviewers who want to contribute to the community are needed.
i just made a pokestop like cpl days ago & today it appeared on the map & since there was another pokestop nearby it turned that into a gym so now i got a new gym & new pokestop as wel
thanks this was my 2nd time turning a pokestop into a gym, i have made alot of pokestops here where i live at cause of me comm days be great & am still making more pokestops
This is a great video! Would you also make a video about reviewing nominations? If more people are reviewing, nominations will be decided on much faster. It can take more than a year for nominations in some areas because of the lack of people reviewing.
Yes,Yes plese do. I have nominated some real artifacts to be viewed, and people say "Fake" or "other reason" research your facts. you can't call my culture fake.
@@xemsisx as the submitter, you have to be the one to do the research and convince submitters that your nomination is eligible. Rarely will reviewers take the time to research a nomination while reviewing, especially if it's apparent that the submitter didn't put in much effort. Also, Fake Nomination as a rejection reason might just be reviewers unsure if your nomination actually exists at the submitted location. To help prevent confusion, make sure you're taking great supporting photos that show both the object and as much of its surroundings as possible.
@@cadevoller extremely valid point and I appreciate your response. Totally get the idea about a submitter doing their research. I know from my geocaching days about this kind of process. A submitter should do their work, that doesn't release the reviewer from any responsibility to do a conscientious, educated review. In my example of a rejection of an baseball diamondbin a public park, public parks some of them are in fact often lined with residential properties. But if I'm giving a description, photos, and mapping that indicates where that object is in the public park and the nearest residential property is 500 feet from that's a lot different than nomination of an object that's immediately adjacent to somebody's front yard. I've reviewed nominations myself and I know when you review the map there is a feature called "suggest new location." I have used that feature when I've had a concern. It's not that hard, is it?
Thanks for the informative video, it's important for players to try and get new pokestops around their area! Since moving into my new apartment in a downtown area I've added almost 30 new pokestops in the last 2 years. If you live in a rural area, get a free little library outside your house, its a easy pokestop submission!
thank you Billy I have been able to review and nominate stops for about 6 months now but didn't know what I should be doing so this is a really big help to me. I did nominate one stop but I was already a stop 😂 ...so much for newbies
You’re going to want to correct the categories comments because there are several things in categories that are not valid. Why that is I don’t know. What you said would make sense as a change Niantic should make.
in my town, there are lots of mosaik tiles made to make pokestops. just take a pavement tile, make a mosaik on it and place it back, make a pic and send it in :)
There’s a building near my house Tahts painted in every side and I nominated every wall as a seperate mural, now there’s 4 pokestops so close that you can’t click the one you want to half the time
Like others said - no link to the cell map. I'm glad some posted about IITC. Don't know what it is, but going to find out. Biggest probelm is nominations are reviewed by random people. I know they must pass some training, but some will be supper critical while others just rubber stamp spots. Pokestop acceptance is largely dependent on who's doing the review.
ngl, i did create tons of stops and gyms. definitely worth the work. local playground is amazing now. but pls keep your fingers off if you don't follow all instructions
FYI, Not every nomination accepted will become PokeStops. Some of them will become "Stops" or "Point of Interest" in other Niantic Games (Jurassic Park Alive)
Indeed. I submitted a few through the PoGo app, but even though they've been accepted, they have not appeared - I can see them in Ingress, though. IIRC, Pokemon Go has a cycle of accepting new submissions into the app - reported invalid stops are removed, oldest stop in the cell becomes a gym, new submissions are added as stops, etc.
I gave up trying because there are many legible stops were rejected for silly reasons. I suspect my neighbouring country who are in the "same area" in niantic's world keeps bad reviewing proposed pokestops. I had a beach with frequent goers in weekdays rejected because it was "Temporary or seasonal Display". Is the beach going off to somewhere? LOL
Yes, this is a big problem. Recently, I've had everything rejected with "Third Party Photo" as the reason. It's completely ridiculous. Once a month you can appeal a nomination. This allows submissions that "the community" rejected to be reviewed by Niantic staff. All of my appeals have been approved so far. I don't know why the voters are so toxic.
I've seen existing stop's artwork change. Proposed change. Change rejected. Or a mall that has been demolished and nothing but a pile of rubble for years where people have submitted removal reports only to have those rejected
I recommend submitting your Not Accepted nominations to discussion forums like subreddits NianticWayfarer and get comments on how you could improve them.
@@seedspittinspacecowboy The forum can be helpful if the nomination is poorly done, but it's not helpful when the rejections are clearly bogus. Also, users gaslight people there all the time. The same users that give advice on how to "improve" nominations also brag about rejecting over half of the submissions they vote on.
This is terrible advice. This list was not created by Niantic. People heavily involved in Wayfarer have been asking them to change the list forever BECAUSE it lists locations that are 100% ineligible.
I have been trying to add new pokestop in rural areas where there is no pokestop or gym. I would like to suggest if the location of the new pokestop is also considered as to how far the nearest existing one is. That way we would get new one in very remote places and can get even new players to join.
I've been wanting a pokestop or gym at a golf course I play at often, and it's across the river froma city where there are many stops. I'll have to check out the cells and see if there's any chance at all!
I'm expanding the # of pokestops in Davy Crockett Birthplace State Park. I had 40 nominations to use up and I've done 18nso far. They're still creating new things to turn into pokestops so as each project gets competed, I'll add it as a stop. Lol
A few thoughts I had while watching this. Main photo: While the existing photos for the accepted POIs are great, the quick-and-dirty photo you take of the trail sign here is pretty bad, with heavy sun glare. Those photos tend to get otherwise great POIs rejected. Take the time to take a good photo! Supporting photo: Do not just turn around 180 degrees and take a photo. The supporting photo should be used as additional verification that the POI exists and helps reviewers cross-reference its location. It's great for new POIs that may not appear on satellite or streetview yet. Keep the POI in the supporting photo and show the wider area. I've had to reject things while reviewing because of this; the main photo might be amazing, but the supporting photo doesn't show it and I can't discern the location otherwise, so then I have to give the location a low rating or reject it outright. Categorizing the location: This is not a hard-and-fast list of "things that will get accepted." As an example, "Vehicle Traffic Sign" is one of the categories, but you should never accept something like a generic stop sign or yield sign, unless there was something *very* unique about it (example off the top of my head: the Mile 0 marker for US 1 in Key West). That being said, it could give you a general idea of things to look out for when looking for submissions.
One of the Rejection criteria is if it's on Private Residential Property. Encouraging people to submit something at their home is not a good idea. Don't make people frustrated when it gets denied. Or even if it's accepted and shows up, it will get removed if reported to Niantic.
Definitely do a bit of reviewing to see what other people are submitting and how to make a better submission. For rural the biggest problem is nothing is allowed on or even on the fence of single family private property. Look for public areas where there might be trail signs, historic buildings that are not houses, and depending on the country look for USGS survey markers (the Australian version is generally too common and generic).
It depends on what kind of rural area you're in, but things like nature reserves and hiking trail markers are great. Also: Churches and temples, historical signs, permanent memorials (like war memorials), community centres, social clubs like Moose Lodges, Lions Clubs or cultural clubs, tourist attractions, and taverns/pubs. Some rural general stores and cafes have random curiosities like wood carvings and murals which are awesome potential wayspots.
Don’t forget you can appeal rejections. I’ve done more than 2000 reviews on Wayfinder and I am painstaking in my efforts to confirm location, validity, and more, so it bothers me to no end when a submission of mine gets rejected because the reviewer as either lazy (“location does not exist”… except it’s a park that appears in the photo, street view, AND satellite photos) or they just reject everything. I’ve appealed five rejections and all were later approved. The problem I have with the system is the S cells. There is one MASSIVE s-cell that my apartment and 8 other large apartment complexes fall into, as well as three small parks, a temple, and other objects of interest (not to mention a million signboards, which are all the rage now). We get one stop. That’s it. Down the road the s-cells form a grid pattern one-tenth the size of the one I’m in, for no discernible reason - maybe a couple of houses per cell, whereas more than 3000 people live in our single cell. I’ve had six stops approved in my area and only one has appeared in the next cell. Quite frustrating when some people have numerous stops and gyms within each of home (and even call the gyms they “home gyms”) when you have to don your jacket and brave the elements just to spin one or join a raid directly.
The wayfarer reviewers are all over the place. Sometimes they are SOOOO PICKY and sometimes it looks like they didn’t even review the submission… no middle ground lol
Is there a limit of requests you can place? Cause why bother checking S2 cells if you can just apply and then wait if it gets approved or not. Why the extra work?
ok, there is a rule of 1 PoI in each Level 17 s2 square. But, is there also a minimum distance between stops in neigboring S2 squares? I beleive this used to be 20meters but has this changed at all?
I remember i got to lvl 38 and tried to create a pokestop in reach from my house and after like an hour of doing what they wanted I finished and after a month i got an email and logged in to pokemon and i got a pokestop in reach from my house, and the rest is history
Billy, I shared this with friends in my global raid group and they said there is no link for the S2 Grid Map in the description; could you please add in the comments, thanks!!!
Please, please don't share this, there's a lot of misinformation in the video and you're only going to spread lies; there are much better videos out there.
I'm a reviewer on Wayfarer, you have to be careful to also take a good quality photo with no direct sunlight like in your example which washed out the photo, that would not be accepted. In your evidence photo you have to have the thing your submitting in it and everything around it showing it's accessible. I would not just take a shot of the sidewalk, you need the POI in the photo as well. So in this example you'd stand further back from the overlook trail sign and take a shot of it that shows the sign and surrounding sidewalk. Other than that the rest of this is spot on 👍
Yeah, I did everything right and got "fake nomination". Bunch of clowns many Wayfarer reviewers.
How to make a stop to a gym?
Me too, i was about to say that! Keep fences out of your pictures since it needs to be an opened Area
@@gurota1786
You have L17 cells (little one, they are the cells we see in the video)
You also have L14 cells (bigger one, not shown in the video)
An L14 cell contains 8 x 8 = 64 L17 cells. The number of existing/visible pokestops in Pokémon Go
determine the number of possible gym in the L14 cell.
1 pokestop = 0 gym
2 to 5 pokestops = 1 gyms
6 to 19 pokestops = 2 gyms
20+ pokestops = 3 gyms
@@Synestro. appreciate the reply man! I kinda understood what you said, but still confused on how the stop becomes a gym. So like theres two stops near me for example, how can i help to bump the stop and make it a gym
A couple things:
1) Show the POI in the secondary photo. That helps the reviewer reconcile the location.
2) Look into IITC. That’s a resource that allows you to overlay existing Wayspots on top of an S2 cell map. That’s probably an entire video itself, but it’s an invaluable tool for the serious Wayfarer.
IITC Is a must allmost. Even shows accepted nominations that are not pokestops. I moved some around so the jumped in another cell so they became stops
Overlay how? 👀👀👀
@@ron5788 how can you move wayspots which aren't in Pokemon Go into other S2 cells
@@LennoxHalloy with wayfarrer and then go to the HELP section.
@@ron5788 Was genau muss man dann dort sagen?
I apologize for the harsh words, but this video is....rough. Great video idea overall but there's a lot of misinformation. I know most of these points of been made already, but I wanted to compile everything I noticed into a list for you for some general future advice.
It's clear that you're not entirely sure how S2 cells work or how to refer to them and their levels. You can only have one Pokestop per Level 17 S2 cell. Level 14 S2 cells are the ones that determine gym creation. Also, the Ingress Intel Map (IITC) is your best bet if you want a map of the S2 cells. The website you linked is not fully accurate with the cells, and it's also user-submitted, so many, many pokestops will not show on it (and if they do, they might be in the wrong location and possibly the wrong cell). IITC is much more accurate, MUCH more helpful (i.e. it can mark off occupied level 17 cells for you), and easier to use.
Your supporting photo should SHOW the poi and as much of its surroundings as possible. Reviewers usually rely on the supporting photo to help confirm the location of your nomination, so if you're not showing it in your supporting photo, you risk a rejection for "Fake" or "Mismatched Location."
You shouldn't be encouraging people to submit pokestops at their houses. Private Residential Property is ineligible and will be rejected, including little free libraries in front of your house.
The list of categories is NOT a list of what's eligible - it's a list that Niantic uses to categorize Wayspots by type, which they could implement in future Niantic games.
You should also talk more about Wayfarer. wayfarer.nianticlabs.com is the website where people can manage their nominations (edit/withdraw/view status) and also review other people's nominations. It also has criteria pages that are absolutely vital to learning how to submit good candidates: wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/new/criteria/eligibility
Minor wording adjustment - "navigational signs" are not all eligible. It kinda sounds like you're encouraging people to submit road signs. You submitted a trail marker (which is awesome! Glad you got those accepted!)
I'm sure you have some questions - PLEASE feel free to join the Wayfarer Discussion Discord server (discord.gg/niawayfarer). There are many, many experienced Wayfarers there that would 100% be willing to offer you advice for future videos, or just advice for anything Wayfarer related in general (nomination improvement, S2 cells, etc).
Thank you for reading if you made it this far, I do apologize for all the criticism but I feel like it needed to be said. Thanks for encouraging Wayfaring.
I hope this gets more likes! This is actually some super useful information.
This is a must for rural players, managed to get one gym and one pokestop at my place!
100%. I got about 15 pokestops made within a 1km radius of my rural home just by walking around and paying attention. Some were rejected and needed to be resubmitted before they got accepted. I'm waiting on an appeal to see if one I might be able to reach from home is accepted. Using IITC-CE mobile app with the Pokemon Go scripts added helped a lot.
but the voting process is so slow my first nomination is being voted on since last August...
By that speed my other 10 nominations will be done voting in a few years :C
@@WeirdCate gotta get those upgrades
How ?
@@cristianhernandez3619 search "Niantic Wayfarer". You'll understand from there.
Thanks for getting the word out for nominating POI's. I still can't stress other players enough to get on Niantic Wayfarer and rate these nominations. It really does take a community to get these POI's through.
As someone who has gotten stops created in our community, I cant stress enough how important it is to familiarize yourself with wayfarer, sign up, rate stops your self and pay attention when youre playing to what approved stops have for pics and descriptions. Mimic those conditions and you will get approved.
Also I would suggest for the second photo to have to still show the object that is the nomination but with a wider view of what around it
Yes, 100%.
Yup. Always
!! The list of categories is not a list of eligible candidates!! There are things like elementary schools listed there. The list is to categorize your nomination, so that the category tags can be used in new Niantic games do differentiate objects
Commenting under this to hopefully help push it up to the top of the comments section. People need to see and understand this vital piece of info.
So what IS the list of eligible categories? How do we find out so we avoid places that are just never, ever going to be accepted?
@@whiterabbit6341 Officially Niantic has 3 general categories that a nomination should fit. They are exploration, exercise, and social. In the past year Niantic has moved away from saying this or that is categorically eligible.
@@whiterabbit6341 There is no list, there is just criteria
Great video for beginners about the S2 cells. As someone else said, the supporting photo needs to have what you are submitting in it, so that reviewers can make sure it is really where you pinned it. Also, those categories are NOT what is eligible. "Elementary school" for example is a category and is specifically not allowed. And if you are going to encourage people to submit, please encourage people to review. The backlog in Cary NC is two years and four months to get a decision. I really love how you encouraged people to look in open S2 cells and not submit garbage nominations, but anything placed on the property of a single family residence is ineligible.
That may be the "rule", but it's a stupid one and is obviously not enforced. Some people have yard art at their single family dwelling and it IS a pokestop. As it should be. An example of this was a very large giraffe statue someone had created and anchored on their lawn. It was interesting to see as you went by.
@@whiterabbit6341 the “rule” is in place for real, legal reasons. All these people with yard art and little free libraries or whatnot- they are NOT signing up for all the attention it would bring as a Pokestop. Or worse, a gym. Do you know how creepy it would be to have the same car stopping every day in front of your house to spin a stupid Pokestop? Can you even imagine the mess it would make if it was a gym and people sat in front of their house for minutes at a time battling a gym or doing a raid? Do you know how many cops would be called? Do you know what would happen to Niantic if angry homeowners sued for trespassing? Guess what bud, lawsuits have happened before and they could happen again.
😂 This is the reason why fewer and fewer players submit Pokestop nominations because some Niantic wannabes wanna ruin the fun out of it. As if Niantic is paying them 😂😅
Great info for beginners looking to submit Pokestops. Another huge Pro Tip that might actually have the biggest collective impact is to get more people involved with reviewing submissions on Wayfarer so there doesn’t continue to be such a huge backlog/bottleneck of submissions! If you could do a video instructing people how to get set up there and encourage more to do review others' submissions, I think it would make an even bigger overall impact on the number of Pokestops we start seeing around!
Love this
Sir we need more videos on this. Like do videos on places u try that didnt vs that did become pois because im judt starting out n it would be very benficial
I've been doing this since 2019 when it became available in PoGo.. I have to disagree with some of Billy's suggestions. 1- use IITC mobile.. with the grid overlay. you don't have to mark off any existing stops. because IITC pulls in all of Niantic Wayfarer POIs in Ingress and PoGo... I use IITC all the time. 2- the list of what the POI you submit is NOT what is accepted. it is just a list of what POIs could be.. doesn't mean it is accepgtable.. I've created over 500 stops and no idea how many gyms I've triggered.
100% agree, IITC seems much easier than the suggested format!
How u get the grid on the ittc
Great timing for this video cuz someone on my street knows the deal lol. I walked outside yesterday and we had 2 more poke stops added and one former one turned into a gym. It was great lol
There is no link to the s2 cell map in the description
Yepooo and zero response from him
K though i was crazy for not being able to find the S2 link, just generic video description
Big piece of advice - anything that is on a residential property (such as in front of a house) will automatically be rejected. Also - do NOT try to create pokestops at places that may interfere with emergency services such as hospitals!
EDIT: Another piece of advice - don't mention anything about the games in your submissions. Wayfarer is about creating an accurate database, "The more pokestops the better" isn't a good reason for a PoI to be added.
Streets exists for houses to have access better transportation
I know many Pokestops, which are paintings on houses on private properties, so I don't get why some are allowed and some are not.
@@IEATOSI apparantly i saw one "Pentagon" that's a gym but nothing less on a public space unavailable to public
@@IEATOSI maybe the locations are at the public zone of that place.
Then why are hospitals in the list?
Where is the S2 cell link in the description? I don’t see it. 0:48
It's the biggest youtuber lie they tell us 😢
Hey in the video you said you'd add the link to the S2 Cells map in the video description. But I can't find any link to that there. Did you forget to add it?
As soon as you said the street Del Prado, my ears perked up as I used to own the Dry Cleaners right there behind Shwack! So awesome! Great video as always.
What is the link to the website to see the S2 cells ?
vesoyu.github.io/s2cell/
The biggest secret is to know where there are POI’s and where there are not through this link
Thank you for sharing the link!
I’ve literally just been going through the process of submitting my first wayspots ever this past week
I’ve had 3 accepted and 4 rejected
People marked all of the rejected ones as mismatched locations even though they were all spot on submissions
It’s quite frustrating but I think I can get the one I appealed to go fully through
Just stay consistent. You’ll get it.
@@TheTrainerClub yea stay consistent i did my first in November took did so many took me 4-5 days to get my first upgrade. created my first pokestop used my upgrade was accepted in like 2 days. i havent dont any nominations in like a month but ive done like 400 nom reviews have another upgrade i can use like 25% from another and in great standings with warfarer
Don’t bother waiting on appeals, when you submit do it 10x, will speed up the process drastically. As long as 1/10 is accepted you can then just delete the other ones
@@Fo9xIdle that doesn't speed up anything. Because of proximity rules, only one of them will go into Voting at a time. So that's a waste of submissions and time.
Also, if you are spamming ineligible candidates, you can receive warnings for that which could lead to bans. If you’re confident that what you’re submitting is eligible, instead of spamming, just look for ways to improve and resubmit with the improvements after a rejection.
I had a baseball field in a public park rejected as a "private residence" despite clear description, images and mapping!
No link in the description
I've waited SO LONG for a big Pogo ytber like you to post this. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Watch Pokedaxi's video about nominating, his ones is the most accurate, and factual...
@@IsaacLoneA Erling Haaland
Thanks for making the video. The Pogo community needs to know what they can do to improve the game.
However, there were a lot of things that were missing.
- S2 cells. Without going into detail you should mention the different sizes and what they mean. (Also, I must have missed it but I didn't see the link for S2 cells in the description).
- Approval process. This is just as, if not more, important than the submission process. If people really want to add more POIs they also need to get set up on wayfarer and review/approve them. It's peer approved and, as a long time submitter, the more submissions just back log the system. Another huge thing, the review community can be extremely petty at times. You'll either have people arbitrarily rejecting POIs because they are quickly going through the reviewing process to get the wayfarer agreement badge. Or you'll get Karens who reject POIs because of the tiniest of details. The more reviewers who want to contribute to the community are needed.
The video of making a gym would be dope to watch and learn about
Great video! It's great to see that there's more pokestops around dana point. I nominated one close by and it got accepted yesterday.
i just made a pokestop like cpl days ago & today it appeared on the map & since there was another pokestop nearby it turned that into a gym so now i got a new gym & new pokestop as wel
Congrats 🎉
thanks this was my 2nd time turning a pokestop into a gym, i have made alot of pokestops here where i live at cause of me comm days be great & am still making more pokestops
This is a great video! Would you also make a video about reviewing nominations? If more people are reviewing, nominations will be decided on much faster. It can take more than a year for nominations in some areas because of the lack of people reviewing.
Sure!
Yes,Yes plese do. I have nominated some real artifacts to be viewed, and people say "Fake" or "other reason" research your facts. you can't call my culture fake.
In my area it takes 2 years before getting rejected or not in the game
@@xemsisx as the submitter, you have to be the one to do the research and convince submitters that your nomination is eligible. Rarely will reviewers take the time to research a nomination while reviewing, especially if it's apparent that the submitter didn't put in much effort.
Also, Fake Nomination as a rejection reason might just be reviewers unsure if your nomination actually exists at the submitted location. To help prevent confusion, make sure you're taking great supporting photos that show both the object and as much of its surroundings as possible.
@@cadevoller extremely valid point and I appreciate your response. Totally get the idea about a submitter doing their research. I know from my geocaching days about this kind of process. A submitter should do their work, that doesn't release the reviewer from any responsibility to do a conscientious, educated review. In my example of a rejection of an baseball diamondbin a public park, public parks some of them are in fact often lined with residential properties. But if I'm giving a description, photos, and mapping that indicates where that object is in the public park and the nearest residential property is 500 feet from that's a lot different than nomination of an object that's immediately adjacent to somebody's front yard.
I've reviewed nominations myself and I know when you review the map there is a feature called "suggest new location." I have used that feature when I've had a concern. It's not that hard, is it?
Categories aren’t a guide for what’s accepted, their just a list of everything, including invalid stuff.
Thanks for the informative video, it's important for players to try and get new pokestops around their area! Since moving into my new apartment in a downtown area I've added almost 30 new pokestops in the last 2 years. If you live in a rural area, get a free little library outside your house, its a easy pokestop submission!
So informative I didn’t know we could do this since back when I hit level 40 a year after the game launched
I even easier now. It's at lvl 37 on PoGo now.
thank you Billy I have been able to review and nominate stops for about 6 months now but didn't know what I should be doing so this is a really big help to me. I did nominate one stop but I was already a stop 😂 ...so much for newbies
You’re going to want to correct the categories comments because there are several things in categories that are not valid. Why that is I don’t know. What you said would make sense as a change Niantic should make.
I photoshoped a free little library into a picture next to your house. I've had much success with this. I've even fudged a few painted power boxes.
nice to know more about this, I got 2 more stops in my area, gonna hunt for more to help this little village :)
in my town, there are lots of mosaik tiles made to make pokestops.
just take a pavement tile, make a mosaik on it and place it back, make a pic and send it in :)
Using IITC with the pogomap is a huge help as well.
I remember in where I live the library had only 2stops... now there are 4 and a gym cool thank you for all you do....
Become a reviewer on wayfarer people! That’s the best way to get your stops fast!
Did Billy drop the link for the S2 cell map? Can't see it here
There’s a building near my house Tahts painted in every side and I nominated every wall as a seperate mural, now there’s 4 pokestops so close that you can’t click the one you want to half the time
I don’t see the link for the s2 cells.
Like others said - no link to the cell map. I'm glad some posted about IITC. Don't know what it is, but going to find out. Biggest probelm is nominations are reviewed by random people. I know they must pass some training, but some will be supper critical while others just rubber stamp spots. Pokestop acceptance is largely dependent on who's doing the review.
Wheres the link at??
This is crazy timing for me... I just became a wayfarer like a week ago! Thanks for the tips!
U forgot to include link in description
Awesome video, man!
Great video but where is the S2 cell link?
Dope vid Billy, in my area I’ve gotten 10 poke stops and 2 gyms created
Ngl i watched the first 3 mins and decided this is too much work 😂
ngl, i did create tons of stops and gyms. definitely worth the work. local playground is amazing now.
but pls keep your fingers off if
you don't follow all instructions
@@limit3dmfg478 i submitted 4 and it says denied. i hate this nominations
@@abdullahsahi_0016 what did you submit?
@@xemsisx a postbox and other was a railway side path area
Thanks for the vid, Billy!!
Really great video, I’ve been wondering about this. Thank you!!
Just a tip for you submitters, include the poi in the supporting photo. Gains the reviewers trust.
I hate when people say Link will be in Description and it never is but all your promotion is there.
As someone who just hit level 38 I needed this lol
The level requirement has been brought down to 37 tho lmao
@@incurseio yeah 😂😂
Link to the S2 map? You've got a lot of links in the description but I dont see it.
FYI, Not every nomination accepted will become PokeStops. Some of them will become "Stops" or "Point of Interest" in other Niantic Games (Jurassic Park Alive)
Indeed. I submitted a few through the PoGo app, but even though they've been accepted, they have not appeared - I can see them in Ingress, though. IIRC, Pokemon Go has a cycle of accepting new submissions into the app - reported invalid stops are removed, oldest stop in the cell becomes a gym, new submissions are added as stops, etc.
I gave up trying because there are many legible stops were rejected for silly reasons. I suspect my neighbouring country who are in the "same area" in niantic's world keeps bad reviewing proposed pokestops. I had a beach with frequent goers in weekdays rejected because it was "Temporary or seasonal Display". Is the beach going off to somewhere? LOL
Yes, this is a big problem. Recently, I've had everything rejected with "Third Party Photo" as the reason. It's completely ridiculous. Once a month you can appeal a nomination. This allows submissions that "the community" rejected to be reviewed by Niantic staff. All of my appeals have been approved so far. I don't know why the voters are so toxic.
I've seen existing stop's artwork change. Proposed change. Change rejected.
Or a mall that has been demolished and nothing but a pile of rubble for years where people have submitted removal reports only to have those rejected
100%
I recommend submitting your Not Accepted nominations to discussion forums like subreddits NianticWayfarer and get comments on how you could improve them.
@@seedspittinspacecowboy The forum can be helpful if the nomination is poorly done, but it's not helpful when the rejections are clearly bogus. Also, users gaslight people there all the time. The same users that give advice on how to "improve" nominations also brag about rejecting over half of the submissions they vote on.
Just got two approved this week on my street, stoked lol
I use IITC Mobile for my C2 cells. But a great video for let us know how to create a new pokestop.
What map did you use to get the grids to show?
Right? I can’t find the link he said he’d put in the description.
This is terrible advice. This list was not created by Niantic. People heavily involved in Wayfarer have been asking them to change the list forever BECAUSE it lists locations that are 100% ineligible.
am i just dumb or is the link not in the description for the website?
I have been trying to add new pokestop in rural areas where there is no pokestop or gym. I would like to suggest if the location of the new pokestop is also considered as to how far the nearest existing one is. That way we would get new one in very remote places and can get even new players to join.
Ty❤
I've been wanting a pokestop or gym at a golf course I play at often, and it's across the river froma city where there are many stops. I'll have to check out the cells and see if there's any chance at all!
Like nominating every hole or basket? Those are nefariously bad but still gets accepted somehow lol.
If there's some map of the golf hole it should get approved. Unfortunately, the pitch usually doesn't
Where's the link to the s2 cell view?
Thanks Billy and thanks for this and I hope to get to use this myself soon enough
Didn't see the link for the cell map.
Where’s the link? It’s not in the description 0:52
i've been submitting stops since 2013. I stopped in 2020. Had over 500 creations.
I'm expanding the # of pokestops in Davy Crockett Birthplace State Park. I had 40 nominations to use up and I've done 18nso far. They're still creating new things to turn into pokestops so as each project gets competed, I'll add it as a stop. Lol
A few thoughts I had while watching this.
Main photo:
While the existing photos for the accepted POIs are great, the quick-and-dirty photo you take of the trail sign here is pretty bad, with heavy sun glare. Those photos tend to get otherwise great POIs rejected. Take the time to take a good photo!
Supporting photo:
Do not just turn around 180 degrees and take a photo. The supporting photo should be used as additional verification that the POI exists and helps reviewers cross-reference its location. It's great for new POIs that may not appear on satellite or streetview yet. Keep the POI in the supporting photo and show the wider area. I've had to reject things while reviewing because of this; the main photo might be amazing, but the supporting photo doesn't show it and I can't discern the location otherwise, so then I have to give the location a low rating or reject it outright.
Categorizing the location:
This is not a hard-and-fast list of "things that will get accepted." As an example, "Vehicle Traffic Sign" is one of the categories, but you should never accept something like a generic stop sign or yield sign, unless there was something *very* unique about it (example off the top of my head: the Mile 0 marker for US 1 in Key West). That being said, it could give you a general idea of things to look out for when looking for submissions.
Is there a way to get a gym in? Or get a stop changed to a gym?
3:20 To be honest, I would reject what for Low Quality Photo. Always try to get a photo without glare!
Totally agree. It was a quick photo without lighting help. Thanks for the feedback
Is a take a book library a allowed poke stop? It’s at a lake in a non private neighborhood. The lake has bench’s btw
No
where in oregon did you nominate the basketball court?
One of the Rejection criteria is if it's on Private Residential Property. Encouraging people to submit something at their home is not a good idea.
Don't make people frustrated when it gets denied. Or even if it's accepted and shows up, it will get removed if reported to Niantic.
Exactly. Little libraries work. Other things... private property unless local reviewers in your country as a whole are fine with it.
nice and cool info, thanks for help, now i know why my was declined
Thanks a lot for this!
Tips for rural locations? We don't have any POIs for miles. Please help
Start by getting ideas of what are good nominations by rating on Niantic Wayfarer.
Definitely do a bit of reviewing to see what other people are submitting and how to make a better submission. For rural the biggest problem is nothing is allowed on or even on the fence of single family private property. Look for public areas where there might be trail signs, historic buildings that are not houses, and depending on the country look for USGS survey markers (the Australian version is generally too common and generic).
It depends on what kind of rural area you're in, but things like nature reserves and hiking trail markers are great. Also: Churches and temples, historical signs, permanent memorials (like war memorials), community centres, social clubs like Moose Lodges, Lions Clubs or cultural clubs, tourist attractions, and taverns/pubs. Some rural general stores and cafes have random curiosities like wood carvings and murals which are awesome potential wayspots.
@@woodwosei appreciate this i live in a area with a population of 700
hey I have a Queston one of my poke stops was excepted. and its been 2 weeks but its not in the game yet and idk why
It may conflict with a current stop in the s2 cell. So it is a POI but won’t make it into Pokémon go because there’s already a stop there.
How much time does it take for a nomination to be revived
How Long does it take untill the pokestop is their
Don’t forget you can appeal rejections. I’ve done more than 2000 reviews on Wayfinder and I am painstaking in my efforts to confirm location, validity, and more, so it bothers me to no end when a submission of mine gets rejected because the reviewer as either lazy (“location does not exist”… except it’s a park that appears in the photo, street view, AND satellite photos) or they just reject everything. I’ve appealed five rejections and all were later approved. The problem I have with the system is the S cells. There is one MASSIVE s-cell that my apartment and 8 other large apartment complexes fall into, as well as three small parks, a temple, and other objects of interest (not to mention a million signboards, which are all the rage now). We get one stop. That’s it. Down the road the s-cells form a grid pattern one-tenth the size of the one I’m in, for no discernible reason - maybe a couple of houses per cell, whereas more than 3000 people live in our single cell. I’ve had six stops approved in my area and only one has appeared in the next cell. Quite frustrating when some people have numerous stops and gyms within each of home (and even call the gyms they “home gyms”) when you have to don your jacket and brave the elements just to spin one or join a raid directly.
S2 cells, you said link in description…Am I missing it?
Cool... thank you for all you do... it's so cool
Question. I have a gym near my house. If I had more stops to the area is there a chance this gym goes back to a normal pokestop?
Would a mural on a utility box work?
It should, I see them in Alberta Canada
The wayfarer reviewers are all over the place. Sometimes they are SOOOO PICKY and sometimes it looks like they didn’t even review the submission… no middle ground lol
What’s the website for the s2 cells? Didn’t see it in the description
Is there a limit of requests you can place? Cause why bother checking S2 cells if you can just apply and then wait if it gets approved or not. Why the extra work?
ok, there is a rule of 1 PoI in each Level 17 s2 square. But, is there also a minimum distance between stops in neigboring S2 squares? I beleive this used to be 20meters but has this changed at all?
Remember to switch off watermark for your pictures!
I remember i got to lvl 38 and tried to create a pokestop in reach from my house and after like an hour of doing what they wanted I finished and after a month i got an email and logged in to pokemon and i got a pokestop in reach from my house, and the rest is history
What did you submit?
Am i not seeing the S2 cell link? All i see is this dudes grind links....
There are so many links which one is for the S2 cells
True
Billy, I shared this with friends in my global raid group and they said there is no link for the S2 Grid Map in the description; could you please add in the comments, thanks!!!
Please, please don't share this, there's a lot of misinformation in the video and you're only going to spread lies; there are much better videos out there.
How do you do it with the bew menu
Can we nominate banks or shops
Thank you so much