Better Amplified Acoustic Guitar Sound on a Budget | Thomann
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- Why do Piezos always sound bad? Well, they don't have to and if your Piezo isn't the best on the market we have 5 nice little helpers today to improve your sound!
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0:00 Introduction
0:19 TC Electronic Bodyrez | Playing
0:46 TC Electronic Bodyrez | Talking
1:18 XVive Mike | Talking
1:58 XVive Mike | Playing
2:13 Artec Acoustic EQ | Talking
2:39 Artec Acoustic EQ | Playing
2:56 Behringer VTone Acoustic ADI 21 | Talking
3:26 Behringer VTone Acoustic ADI 21 | Playing
3:51 Harley Benton Custom Line Acoustic Preamp | Talking
4:04 Harley Benton Custom Line Acoustic Preamp | Playing
4:45 Direct Comparison between all pedals | Playing
6:00 Impressions
9:01 Thanks for Watching!
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The bodyrez totally smashes the competition imo! 😀 Must order one, sounds great!
I have the Behringer and I appreciated how great your guitar sounds using that one.
Came to hear the Behringer mostly. I'm a little sad we didn't hear an acoustic instrument other than a steel string guitar but I understand that's what most viewers are interested in. I'm planning on using it to boost a piezo with no pre-amp on a classical acoustic and am aware of my others (e.g. violinists) who are interested in this.
A fine presentation! Thank you for using a guitar that is like the one most of us would be using (i.e. not a super expensive guitar). The Yamaha sounds great! The sequence, timing, cinematography (pedals pictured on the side while using) are all excellent. The idea of sounding great on a budget is also appreciated. y favs are the AD21 and the HB, though I didn't dislike the others. Cheers!
4:52 No pedal
5:03 Bodyrez
5:13 XVive Mike
5:24 Artec SE-OE3 Acoustic Outboard EQ
5:35 Behringer V-Tone Acoustic ADI21
5:47 Harley Benton Custom Line Acoustic Preamp
Artec has a parametric EQ for very little money (only one filter) but that should be a VERY good tool for any piezo case if used correctly (mostly it would be a pretty narrow cut performed ). The "Bass-Mid-Hi EQ" you most probably have on the mixing console or amp already.
Good video. Straight to the point and greatly structured with the different stages of the video and the comparison mostly. More like this!
Mig-El Romed thanks a lot! We always try our best. //cheers mate, Kris
The Begringer ADI21 is an excellent copy of the Tech21 Sansamp Para DI an amazing option. I love mine, had it for over 20 years and still going strong.
Nice demo. That Bodyrez sounds great.
Thank you for this comparison...I was actually considering an AD121 and this convinced me to go in that direction....being a solo act, I am not as concerned about being too harsh on the pedal, and thanks to Clifton's response/experience with that pedal, that pushed me the rest of the way.
Look at the Hotone AC pedal.
I love the tones on the bentons
Man, that Bodyrez sounds really good. I might pick one of those up.
Thanks for the shoot-out.
Very informative,thanks for the review!👍🎸🎶
Is it weird that I only liked the two cheapest ones, Behringer and Artec
I don't have an USP, but a Shadow SH711 transducer installed permanently on the inside of a Jasmine (big spender lol). Find it more natural.
Glad to finally hear a German say 'Behringer', BTW. This video is gonna help me in my ever lasting argument with my British and Spanish friends. Thanks Kris
Good review! Well done
I've had the bass version of that Behringer pedal for a very long time. Now using the Acoustic as well. The plastic case and button are really not a problem. I think you would have to really abuse it to break anything. It's so cheap, buy two and have a backup if you think you'd break it. I love that something so inexpensive works so well. I did put a little dot of silver paint on the knobs because in a stage situation it is hard to tell which way they are oriented otherwise.
I also use the Behringer ADI21, and in this video I thought it, and the Harley Benton, sounded best. I also marked the knobs to make them easier to see. I've used it on stage many times, with no problems. I bought it to boost the signal from a fairly low-output Fishman magnetic soundhole pickup, which it does very well. As I prefer magnetic pickups (a Shadow SH145 is better than any piezo in my opinion), I haven't used it with piezos.
I have the GDI21, it is tricky to tame! But it's like a cockroach in terms of durability.
I'm waiting on my new Yamaha, looking for a piezo match preamp. The LL16d can be boomy , hoping the bone saddle and nut will tame in. Your Yamaha sounds awesome ! Thanks for the video!
Great....Thanks for the review!
For me the body rez from tc was the best! I recommend it!
I came for the shootout, stayed for tenacious d's 'the roadie' haha
matthew reilly haha, what an epic song! 🤘
//cheers, Kris
Thanks for this - I've been looking for an affordable preamp pedal to go with the Artec piezo pickup in my saz (Turkish baglama). Looks like the Behringer is a good choice for me, as I'll have it switched on all the time so the flimsier construction shouldn't be an issue. That said, I've used their bass driver pedal that's in the same enclosure for years and it has never let me down despite me using the footswitch multiple times during each gig or rehearsal.
Great info . Thanks
Good comparison, fine presentation!
But nothing like my Fishman Aura Spectrum.
oh my god thank you so much for the timestamps
I will go for the Arctec.
I would like to get an update on this acoustic preamp pedal show that also explores some of the more premium options, please!
from all songs possible you choose to play Roadie! I love this video to the max. thank you
Thanks Marek! What a song that is. Gotta love the D. 🙌 //Kris
Piezo is piezo! It's what you run it IN to that counts!
Hey man this was a very well put video, I loved the cinematic camera angles. I’ve been an acoustic player since I started, and I’ve never had a pre amp pedal , and Im wondering if the Xvive Mike can also work on acoustic bass, or does the bass need an acoustic amp specified for a…Bass?
What was the setting used for the guitar pre? volume level? good video
ADI21 is analog, not digital. This is also why it sounds more 'warm'. the' BLEND' knob is a tube amp simulation...but dont go crazy with it; so anywhere from 12 o'clock onwards will give a tube-like tone to your instrument. If your piezo instrument sounds very bright, the 'BLEND' may also help tame the highs.
Thank you
Thanks for the video I have buy the di 21 but what are the best settings 4 it ? I got an apx4 Yamaha thanks 😎 again
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My behringer has lasted 7 yrs. I use passive piezo pickups. Classical or steel. Tough!
BTW... Excellent video
cool video !
Hello! Thanks for the very detailed video. I have one question. Can you plug your acoustic guitar to a pre amp and then to an electric guitar amplifier? I mean is it gonna sound better than just pluggin your acoustic guitar to the electric amp? Or should I buy an acoustic amp as well?
Thank you. Got me to thinking, I put a piezo on my dulcimer to make it louder but could not get a good sound. The Berhinger might be the ticket to get the piezo under control.
If the sound is not good, you might start to experiment with better placement of the piezo, also try with multiple piezos plcaed, also a piezo needs a high-z preamp,for instance just a simple j_fet opamp circuit,failing to do, you get bad soundquality. Hope this helps
Lol love the tenacious d tribute ;)
It's two pm and I am laying in bed. Have just watched the pick of destiny movie with a friend and I see this video and the first thing I notice is you playing the song Roadie by Tenacious D. These guys are still everywhere.
Well it's 3pm, time to lug the gear
Gotta get it on the stage
My muscles flex, my fuckin' sweat will save the day
Hail to the Roadie!
Merci Toto
The berenger and HB are the only two to properly hide that brittle piezo pickup sound and actually sound miced. The other three seem like they'd sound good if your pickups sounded good too.
How long will the bodyrez run before needing batteries? I just want something simple for the piezo pickup.
This demo does its job by showing some inexpensive ways to make a piezo pickup suck a little less. But mostly it does its job by pointing out that no piezo on earth is worth two fucks in an acoustic guitar. I'm sticking with microphones, thanks.
Do you use mics in live performances? What's your setup? I agree about piezos beiing useless, but I'm sticking with soundhole pickups!
Fishman Aura Spectrum DI quite seems to do the job! Check it out :) Not that inexpensive though :/
@@Quicorio Aura is great, but compare to these pedals it worth a fortune. Its not even close price range.
Cool the ADI21 is a copy of the Sansamp Para Di. I have used it for years without problems performing. Just treat it with some care.
What"s the name of the song you play during the comparisson? I know i should know but I totally forgot the name
I use an ADI21 live since a long time. I’m really happy with it, and I have no reservations about sturdiness. Granted, since I play mainly in church services, there’s not a lot of stage diving going on. But it eats batteries like there’s no tomorrow, even when it’s unplugged and switched off. However, the overdrive is great when it’s not the input stage clipping. I think you could do a more in-depth review of this piece of kit.
Genial, me regalaron un Adi 21, y también toco en servicios religiosos, que configuración me recomendáis? O cuales usas tu? Saludos
Hello,could you help me with buying pedal on budget? Im really big fan of nirvana but i have electric acoustic guitar and i would like to get pedal as close to nirvana but it must be budget Thanks
I can’t decide if the I like the Artec or the TC electronics more… Any arguments for which is better??
would you use the tc electronic spark on an acoustic?
I use a bodyrez and IMHO it's great
Sounds as if there is very little difference with and without it?
I need to try one in person after seeing this.
//Andy
@@jakemf1 I love mine. It adds a bit more body [sic] to the sound. Its one of those pedals where if you put it too far on, it sounds like an acoustic simulator (like on the Roland Cube) and too little, you might as well not bother. I tend to have it 1/3 - 1/2 way and it works for me. I should add that i plug straight into a PA
@@jakemf1 according to the quality of the piezo you use, you may find a huge difference.
Same here. Been using 4 years already , no issue with it at all
Only the Behringer ADI21 did not have the fizz on the E and A strings. I'm assuming this was an under saddle pickup.
I think MIKE is pretty impressive...
Think I'm gonna save up for a Fishman aura though...
Try the NUX Optima Air, beats all of these pedals, no doubt, though the XVive is not that bad! IR, affordable and it was already around when this clip was made....
I keep hearing the Nux has noise.
Hey,
thanks for the comparison! I have a Lakewood M54 with a LR Baggs Anthem that delivers a pretty good and natural sound. I wonder if it is reasonable to also have an additional preamp to tweak out the best of the tone and additionally have a good notch filter. Do you have a recommendation for that (can also be a non budget version :-) )
Thanks!
Jürgen
Best pair is the lr baggs venue
love this review, most piezo guitars sound like sh#t direct into my inears. Right now I use a Line6 hx stomp pedal to accomodate my acoustics but I would like something more aimed at just acoustic. PLEASE do a non budget version!
Where is the BOSS AD-2...? Thanks though, you guys rock!
I've missed it. I think Boss AD-2 is better than the Behringer... More natural sound and resonance.
Body Rez is fine, but I found myself wanting more after awhile
What about for non-Piezos?
Behringer good for magnetic pickups?
Artec and HB sound good
Hello. I have a question: Are these usables with nylon guitar? Thanks.
maybe a best pop in pickup like the dean markley pro mag series? and thanks for the SLAYER it reminds need to re-shoot my acoustic death metal vid I shot for Andy :) OOOH I lost so much (great) stuff.
That was a great video mate!
//Andy
I am new to pedals.... but for acoustic guitar I was also expecting Zoom AC-2, AC-3 in this list.... how different is that pedal that did not make it to the list?
they are more expenssive than these pedals. I think he reviewed the low budget but sounds acceptable for a gig.
I felt the BodyRez did the best job at achieving something closer to a mic'd guitar. All the rest retained that choked off piezo sound.
I can't help but assume the Harley Benton preamp, with all its knobs, has a lot more potential when tweaked just right, but the fact that the BodyRez did its job so well with only a single knob absolutely sells it for me. I've watched many reviews of these and other acoustic solutions and, pound for pound, BodyRez takes it. It is definitely a one trick pony, but that trick is very well executed.
@Vadriel Theelf I agree 👍
Review the Acoustic APDI
What are those eqpmnts behind you? 🤔🤔🤔
what model Yamaha Guitar are you using
Could you do a non budget version please? I would really like to hear a comparison between some more high end pedals.
Denis Rexhepi I’m more than happy to do a non budget version. Let’s see how many others want to see that. //cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Ill second that, i got a A3 zoom would like to see if i need to upgrade, sofar nothing comes near, mayby tonedexter :-)
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses tonedexter maybe?
@@pedr0p0lis Always wish I would have purchased the Zoom A3.
What strings you playing
I didn't hear an explanation of the mic in the guitar. What exactly is the source?
Hi, Kris here. There is no mic in the guitar, but a piezo pickup. It's the stock pickup in this Yamaha guitar. Check out the video descrption box for product information. You'll find the guitar there too.
//cheers, Kris
Shouldve tried a 10 channel EQ in comparison too
Hi for Piezoelectric pickup only? I got Fishman rare earth Humbucker. Should I just look elsewhere?
Low into will fly, high into low will go. That's the classic saying regarding impedances ;-)
the ADI21 seems cool but the price tag as doubled since the video :/
Thanks for the budget comparison. I would venture to say that the highest percentage of players are not "professional musicians" and can't spend astronomical amounts of money on a high end kit. Doesn't mean we don't want good sound tho
Which one did you like best?
The Behringer ADI21 is not *remotely* digital. It's a copy of the Sansamp Acoustic DI which is very analogue.
What is the brownish box under the db meter?
thanx
It is called the ox box from universal audio.
@@TheShenmeu Thanx Buddy!! 🙋
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@@paulterl4563 you're welcome :)
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What equipment do you recommend for a budget including the pickups and other required things...
I have no clue what to get...
Starting with the guitar, if it feels good in your hands and you like the way it sounds, then that is a good guitar (i.e. it doesn't really matter about brand, etc. I chose my Washburn with electronics over a Martin or Taylor, even though I like Martin and Taylor). Next, the amp. Do you want a natural sound? A Fishman acoustic would work well. I like a solid state for bars since I can goof around with reverb; but I use a PA lots of times, that's why I watched this video - so I could figure out some inexpensive ways to make the piezo sound better :) An eq pedal of your liking will help, then just decide if you want a little chorus, reverb, delay, etc. Most of all, have FUN with it.
need to be honest the arteq is simple and clean to my ears
I didn't think ADI21 was digital. They are a cheap copy of Tech 21 SansAmps and those were analog. I could be wrong, I am not insisting, but that is my recollection :)
They are analog from what I understand.
I'm a little bit new to the world of guitars. So my question
I plug my electronic guitar into one of those pedals and my e-guitar will sound like a accoustic guitar?
No. But there are other pedals that do that. Try “acoustic simulator “ and see what that finds you. That said, electric and acoustic guitar are like piano and organ, similar but also very different.
I use the TC Electronic Bodyrez on electric guitar. It seems to be taking out some mids and adds a bit of compression, but it's a cool sound that gives me plenty of compliments on my tone! It's a no brainer for my acoustic guitar, since it makes the transducer sound much better.
Slayerrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!😂😂😂😂
Artec seemed to yield the most balaned tone
Can you do reviews of affordable acoustic guitar pickups too
Great info here. I'd have loved to hear the guitar Without Effects for a reference-tone, so we can Hear exactly what each pedal is doing to the base-sound.
Hello.... at the beginning of comparisons he does play a plain guitar sample.... 4:53 no pedal.
@@zacksovine6923 Yeah - Thanks. I just re-watched. I love this channel. oNe LovE from NYC
Prefer the Artec.
Would love a non budget version.
buy Neumann mics
I wonder what the guitar sounds like without the pedals ...
I got body ze
Nux stageman and optima air..
I know this video is old but I just don't see the the value of a pedal to "enhance" an acoustic instrument sound that doesn't involve an impulse response.
They all sounded awful to me. Bodyrez is the only one I've actually used, and it made my J45 feel and sound awful. Getting a natural acoustic guitar sound with a pickup going through an acoustic amplifier, is a nightmare! The best I have managed so far is an irig acoustic stage, but even that is no where near as natural sounding ( and feeling ) as I would want.
ninguno tiene una reverd decente
Best way to un-piezo you guitar?
Buy a Fishman Rare Earth pickup.
I hate the sound of piezos!
Im sorry to say this, but all of these devices sounds bad and is hopeless. Whatever you do with these effects, you will never hear the real acoustics of the guitar body. Beside that, the sound is artificial, lifeless and flat. It's a shame that most brands don't have any knowledge about amplifying the real characteristics of an acoustic guitar. They mostly placing an 'under the saddle' pickup because it's the easiest way for them to place but it's worst nightmare for the sound.
You must begin to replace the factory pickup with a piezo disc which should be placed inside on the soundboard. The position of the piezo disc is very important, but if you know how to do it... you will experience a great real acoustic sound which you've never heard before on your amp. No need for pedals or effects anymore. If you want to know more about this, feel free to write me a message.
i totally agree!!!
Hi Jerry, I’d be interested to know more about out the piezo disk 😊
Sorry, but only the TC sounded good here.
There's no solution other than to embrace the Piezo or combine it with a different system. Embrace the full range, scoop the mids and let these highs shine like how they do on a mixed acoustic guitar. Throw in that compressor and reverb because these systems will never ever sound good dry.
Most people don't know how to use the Piezo and it's sad.
fishman aura is better than everything that u showed
@Icaro Costa you are probably right. But the price of Aura is 300€, and these are budget pedals. For that price these pedals are awesome!!
I wanted to buy Aura, but Im not professional player, so I will probably buy Bodyrez.
Adi21 is not digital
They all sound more like plastic than an acoustic guitar. It's hard to believe how advanced amp modeling is for electrics now, but we can't make a real acoustic sound loud enough for performance.
Every guitar sound on this video is terrible. Beyond terrible. Like, unacceptable in any setting level terrible.
That is exactly what i was thinking. I cant believe all the people saying any of this sounds good. This has convinced me not to buy any of these wonky pedals.