That was most of one of the most ferocious fires I have ever seen! But I have so much respect for all you fifefighters in the US, and here in the UK. Fair play to you all!
Thank you for the kind words! It indeed would've been very frustrating. Tons of armchair quarterbacks in these comments throwing their two cents in on a situation they don't know about, disappointing. They did what they could with the resources they had.
This stunning video should have a sub title giving the current weather conditions and wind chill. Also including the fact that that only one of the several available hydrants were frozen! The windchill was something between -40 and -50C.
Thank you! I switch between videos and photos so I am not able to film continuously throughout an incident, but I'll try and get longer clips on the next one!
Last year I worked a fire on a massive ground transformer that was for our cities water treatment facility. Lightning strike was the cause. We noticed that the flame was green and blue and the smoke that followed was a yellowish color, just like the video here. There is a mineral oil in some transformers used for cooling. It was wild looking. I’m not saying that the yellow smoke from this video is caused by the same stuff. I was just sharing my experience.
@@johnr.7374 Interesting. Never would have guessed Mineral oil did that. I watch a lot of fire videos and this one is nuts. When I saw that green/yellow smoke I wanted to evacuate my house. You guys are awesome. Thank you for your service 💯
been a ff for 22 years now and a mechanic. Saw that color of smoke at a fire once. It turned out to be R143a refrigerant. They probably had a collection tank that blew.
My first guess for the yellow smoke was sulfur because sulphur is yellow. Crude oil comes with varying amounts of sulfur in it. (The less sulphur, the “sweeter” it is) There are pits full of sulfur around refineries with the sulfur removed in the refining process. (If you drive through Eastern New Mexico where there are a lot of working oil wells, you can smell the sulphur in the air; refineries smell like that too.) There was probably some petroleum contaminated with sulfur because it turns out that sulphur burns with yellow smoke. People on site could have easily smelled it. Did you smell it while recording?
Yep, and the hydrogen that makes up the hydrocarbons in crude oil reacts with the sulfur to produce hydrogen sulfide which gets carried along with the crude oil as it's pumped out of the ground, and this stuff not only smells nasty and is horribly toxic, it can also explode under certain conditions.
Chemically speaking…. Garage…truck garage…. Yellow would think some sulfide/ sulfur content. Green, geeeeze some variant of chlorine powder. And neither identification is going to help at this stage, except, don’t breathe it.
I clicked on like and it changed from 999 to 1k. Omg that is massive. I bet those hardworking firemen feel like taking 5 showers when they get home. :)
One last comment for Liam Pattison, it would be an extra "treat" if follow up video from after the fire is struck could be added to quality footage as this. Just a suggestion. I have worked at companies that have had fires. Sometimes to get the real scope of the damage follow-up footage could tell the rest of the story.
I am curious about what the back half looked like. Just doing a little exercise on reading the smoke I'm wondering where the fire was getting the air to build up the way it did. Once those lower windows on the garage were burnt out then it's easy to figure out what was up- but there's a lot of condition change in the smoke from arrival to that point. It darkens down, increases in density and velocity... Where is it getting the air to do that? (Edit: I measured out the shop on google maps and it's pretty big- 20m x 60m... so lots of air in that shop to help build up the fire.) I looked up "Inland" and it's a heavy duty mechanic shop... Those "explosions" MAY actually just be tires on big rigs blowing off. I've heard the PRVs on propane cylinders etc. venting before and it's pretty obvious pre BLEVE... Big rig tires blowing off (would explain the number of pops) seems like a likely possibility- They do let go with a pretty awakening bump and it would certainly explain the minimal change in fire condition after they happen. I did, however, notice once the door came down that you could actually see something venting- which did end up BLEVE'ing... I'm not sure they all were but either way the fact it's "unknown" is significant. I also noticed, to the credit of the folks doing the entry through the "people" door that the door was controlled while they searched to minimize air entry- must admit I was impressed they had the presence of mind to manage the door to limit ventilation instead of barbarically ripping it off the hinges while trying to scare the fire out (like we used to do). If I could make one recommendation to the living tripod who put together this video (credit to the excellent video quality and stability)- if conditions allow and to make the videos as beneficial as possible for those of us who are scanning the interwebs for learning opportunities (few of us are fighting a lot of fires anymore so we need all the help we can get), a quick shot of all 4 sides of the building as early as possible would be an excellent addition (my opinion only). Thanks for the great video and to our brothers and sisters in Brandon stay warm out there.
Thanks for the kind words! From what I could see, there wasn't a whole lot happening at the back. The back of the building was actually fenced in (with some gates) so I wouldn't have been able to get back there. Additionally most of the "action" was happening up front, so I wanted to stay there. And yes, it was quite a big building. Had a shop portion, office portion and what looked like a storage/parts portion, so lots of opportunity for airflow.
All those frozen hydrants. The city and the department need to get to the bottom of that issue. Where else in the city, is that the case? Without water, you're powerless to fight fire. Were the underground water supply lines, and the hydrants themselves, installed properly, and does the fire department conduct regular checks of the hydrants?
those brandon guys catch some serious fires and do a great job being a small dept. Just glad none of my stuff was at the dealer thats going to be an insurance nightmare.
They do what they can with the resources they have. In my opinion they're severely understaffed, especially considering they run/handle all EMS calls within the city and surrounding area as well.
Good job. It got hot before they could ever start. Smoke & soot damages to everything inside before it got going. Look at all that smoke coming from everywhere. What a challenge. Job well done.
Good video, If I were you I would send this video to the department to review - the fire fighter should have never been in that position his life was saved by the door. HE never would have seen it coming. If it hadn't of hold. He was busy looking down getting his gear on, let his guard down and it almost cost him. You can tell just by how fast he scampered away. This is something that should have never happened. You either get ready before you go in, or you have someone with you to watch you back while you get ready. - Either way it be better if the department saw this, so they can trap these errors and fix them from happening again. So they're not attending his funeral next time.
I'd have to disagree. As soon as those explosions started going off he moved back like he should've. Video is deceiving too, he was farther back than it looked on video.
Look at my description. I explain how they had water supply issues, and needed to close down the busiest highway in the province to get a line across. That takes time.
I was slowly walking backwards when those explosions were happening and that door dropped... big NOPE! Lol. Thanks for watching man, one of my most intense fire videos.
This was a commercial semi truck dealership/mechanic shop, so there are plenty of combustible materials in a place like this. I believe there were a couple semi trucks inside at the time of the fire, so it could've been their tires, shocks, fuel tanks, or other materials in the shop like propane tanks, acetylene tanks, etc.
Since that's a metal sided building, and wires are arcing, there's a good chance that all the siding is energized. So even with good hydrants, they wouldn't be able to put water on the fire until the electric was shut off. And yes, those Euro style helmets look goofy.
the explosions are probably tires on the vehicles inside cooking off. A truck tire makes a good bomb when it fails suddenly, like when its on a burning vehicle.
After the fact I believe they were truck tires, but at the time the concussion was quite intense, and obviously there were many combustible materials in there, so I was worried they were canisters of some kind going off. Scary situation.
...und ich dachte immer, die Feuerwehr wäre zum löschen da...? Oder haben die Jungs das Feuerchen mit einem Barbecue verwechselt? Oder wie sonst läßt sich erklären, das man erstmal ruhig zuschaut, wie der ganze Laden erstmal ordentlich in Flammen aufgeht, bevor endlich mal einer auf die Idee kommt, mal etwas Wasser in die Flammen zu spritzen? Und wieso hört man dann mehrfach wieder auf und läßt es wieder kräftig auflodern? So einen seltsamen Einsatz habe ich noch nicht gesehen...
Kudos to all the fire fighters whom fought this large blaze. I was a FF/medic for 20 years part time paid in call worked on both suburban and rural Dept one we had hydrants the other we had 5-and 8 000 gallon tankers with portable ponds but first scene I see is two engines parked no lines out or dropped no other water truck in science yet and guys kinda just wondering around not really doing anything no real sense of urgency understand No one in building and a metal structure yes I herd the explosion going off maybe welding tanks or fuel tanks . They watched and waited for overhead doors to really burn and then fall before and real water was put down and the later in video finally some one cut side open that should have been down a while ago nobody on roof cross cutting for ventilation also can’t believe no body has a deck gun / master stream ready to knock down the heavy stuff but with no water truck in scene and only having tank water your screwed so that sucks KUDOS TO ALL THE GUYS AND GALS WHOM FOUGHT THUS BLAZE JUST NOT THE WAY WE DO THINGS HERE IN ILLINOIS like I said I was on a all volunteer FD in southern Illinois where I lived for 6 years till I moved back to south suburbs fought combine fires, acres of soy bean crop fire 80 acres several barn fires house fires along with a sad Dec horse barn fire lost 10 horses out 50 , car wrecks gun shots etc etc etc I’m not gods gift of fireman nor will I claim to be just my observation of video I was not there but just look at video in beginning a lot of walking around looking and having there SCBA BREATHING FRESH OXYGEN FIR WHAT PURPOSE out side of fire scene SMOKE WAS TRAVELING UP IN AIR NOR ACROSS FIRE SCENE endangering any and all fire personal not trying to pick on anyone just see what I see stay safe all 26 year in fire service FF/Medic
Many of them weren't on air. You can have your regulator clipped to your mask/hanging from your mask without actually being on air. They weren't wasting air.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography yes 100% correct but if not enetering or going to breach the roof or door window why have it on till needed it only takes 1 min or less to Don or Dof the SCBA WHERE I CAME FROM when on the engine first out or second and told to pack up ment you were going in to fire to fight fire or search and rescue along with a hose line or vent the roof other than that out side in a hose line no mask on fire bless it was deemed un safe be cause of obnoxious fumes or smoke blowing directly in the fireman throwing water on the fire then yes masks on now in the event of a car or truck fire masks on it regardless due to plastics in the cars and poisonous gases escaping the the vehicle fire along with all the PCBs then not to mention first thing your taught while rolling to a fire scene and a block or two away you see the smoke or header rolling your grabbing the 1 1/2 or 2 1/2 line flaking it off engine dragging it off and ready for fist bit of tank water to start your attack
I always thought water was quite effective in putting out a fire, and you actually had to squirt it on. Seems like US firefighters disagree - or is it a case of less is more...
I'm not sure what it was. It was a heavy duty mechanic shop with semi trucks inside, so there were lots of hazardous materials in there, including likely propane and acetylene. Could've possibly been a diesel tank letting go too? Not sure... either way I wasn't getting any closer when I saw that lol. Thanks for the comment!
There goes a brokerage loss ratio.....wonder who is on this risk....hopefully no one got hurt.....sad to see stuff like this...hope they can rebuild soon #supportsmallbiz
By the time the aerial was able to be brought to the fire there was no fire blowing through the roof, therefore there was no access points for water to come through from above with a master stream.
They should really start to consider changing some Things in America in Regards of the Fire Fighting Department. Some of there Tactics etc look totaly out of Time, and i know the Problem in Regards of Frozen Hydrants, Problems with getting Water etc. but they should start working with the Town etc and for example build Huge Large underground water cisterns on some Points in those Regions, who are Frost Safe. I dont know if Any towns in America have those, but here in Europe for example have a lot of Countrys those Cisterns where all the Rainwater is led into and Firefighter can use them in Case they dont have other Options (some of them are in a Way huge Ponds or so who can freeze in Winter, but others are build Underground and are Frostsafe). Also, i dont understand why they try to Cut Open the Walls with there " Small " Equipment. Dont they have the Options in America to Contact Companies who are equipped with Excavators with a gripper arm or similar equipment to tear down the metal walls of those warehouses? That would make it a Thousand Times easyer to Reach the Fire inside. That is a Standard Procedure in Germany and other European Countrys and even Japan, here in Germany even we have the THW (THW, Federal Agency for Technical Relief) who have at some Points Excavators and Wheel Loader to Tear apart those Metal Walls.
Brandon's not really big enough to have alarms. They don't have the resources/manpower to have alarms. Any fire that happens in Brandon, every single firefighter responds, so it's simply an all hands on deck sort of situation. In a bigger city this likely would've been a 2nd or 3rd alarm, depending on how many trucks are sent on the initial dispatch.
Смотрю не первое видео работы пожарных а США. Мне не понятно почему пожарные так долго ходят и не подают воду в очаг горения. Допустим в начале ролика можно было подавать воду во внутрь здания через окна в воротах, при этом быть защищённом у от высокой температуры, но дождались пока ворота прогорели и начали работать уже подвергая себя гораздо большему риску. Каждая секунда на счету. Если кто-то сможет дать развернутый ответ буду благодарен.
I hope this translates well into your language. They had major water supply issues including frozen fire hydrants. Their only option was to close the busiest highway in the province, that action takes time and is not quick.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography возможно выше описанные проблемы были, видео не передает всей картины событий. 2:00 воду уже подали в рукав, 4:45 начали лить в огонь. Не первое видео с такими действиями. Видел один человек работает со ствола, его не хватает пять человек в кадре таскают пустые рукава туда сюда. Надеюсь в переводе мой текст понятен. Желаю вам сухих рукавов в работе.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography извините я не очень хорошо владею английским языком. Прочитал описание к видео отпало множество вопросов. Я работаю пожарным в России, мы сначала выливаем воду которую привезли с собой, в это время ведётся поиск и постановка на водоисточник для того чтобы создать не прирывную подачу воды.
Oh no what the fireman is waiting he almost prepare the hose why he did not fire water to the building he wait the fire will blown how could they turn off the fire and wait many properties inside more damage
Not to be 'that guy', but this particular crew is not very good, lol. All that equipment, but no structure or organization, at all. Nonetheless, good job and thank ya'll for what for you do on the daily. Keep it up boys.
So there's this guy called 195, who puts a yellow helmet on his head, gloves on his hands, hesitates for a while, picks up what looks like a charged line, and then wanders aimlessly about with it for several minutes, with a roaring fire right in front of him. What exactly was he up to? Did he really have to wait for red helmet guy to show him what to do, i.e. spray water at the flames?
If you were to actually read my description you'd find the answer to your question Mr. Armchair Quarterback. They didn't have a water supply. Conserve your water until you get a stable water supply.
I have a question for the Americans and American fire fighters a lot of the time I see them standing around and not putting water on the fire now I no they aren’t just standing around doing nothing I’m just wondering what are they waiting for cause in my country when the fire services turn up almost within 5 minutes they always have water going on the fire. Now with that being said that could be a good or a bad thing I’m not a fire fighter so I’m not sure why these practise are the way they are just a question anyone got an answer too
Probably they're stuck. A mechanics tools are his personal property. He choses where to leave them when he works, and unless they're insured, the business owner has no liability for them. the employee would have to sue him to recover the cost of his tools, and in the meantime he's out of work and shit out of luck!
Thank you for the kind words! Some fire departments in North America are transitioning to this European style of helmet based off of supposed safety improvements over the traditional style of North American helmets.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography I understand, but the line was swollen, fully charged. Can't they use what they got to try to slow it down? Honestly just wondering
@@leightongalleries6057 Well sure they could've. But what happens when they've used all their tank water and suddenly they need water to cool down a gas meter to prevent it from exploding? What happens if there was someone inside that needs a rescue but they can't get to them because they have no water? What if a nearby building or vehicle is in danger of catching fire but they have no water? There's no way they would've been able to put that fire out with just their tank water, so they were conserving it incase an urgent need for it arose, until they got a stable water supply. Basically what I'm saying is if they used up all their tank water it would've been nearly useless, and they would've been vulnerable if something urgent happened.
Ladder truck did nothing because the only available hydrant they had access to was being used to supply a pumper with 6 lines coming off of it, not enough water to supply the aerial as well
I am British and greatly admire America, but it always seems to me to take your firefighters much longer than ours to actually start applying water to the fire.
Wow, that's some intense footage- great job! I bet you were able to feel the heat when that rolling door collapsed. Also glad the wind was blowing away from you - that smoke looked nasty!
Thanks much Lucas, it got a little warm where I was but I bet it was scorching for those firefighters who were up closer. Definitely was slowly moving back as that was all unfolding!
To all the armchairs firefighters typing a comment, keep in mind: this is rural firefighting. There are not hydrants at every corner, or even at every other corner. And if you’re truly on the job, you know that you need water to fight a fire. Every department does things differently. So unless your going to give them crap about the euro helmets, I’d keep it to yourself. :)
Was a very dynamic scene with multiple issues, very frustrating. Frozen hydrants, too far away hydrants, needing police/highways to shut down the highway to run a line across, all with minimal staffing and a rippin' fire. Not every department has unlimited resources.
It is a terrible feeling for firefighters when they don’t have enough water to properly attack the fire. Deck guns and big pumpers won’t do anything if you don’t have the water supply system to back them up. I looks to me that they did a pretty good job with what they had.👍
Perhaps with their rural district and limited water supply, consideration should be given to more pumper-tanker type apparatus with CAFS. I currently work in a county with only a few hydrants in the towns only. We have an apparatus committee and have been upgrading to pumper-tankers with CAFS and large attack tenders for the past 12 years. It has helped us a lot and helped to lower insurance rates in some areas.
In a rural area near where I lived, there were few hydrants. Fire dept went out and bought a good used stainless steel tanker truck that had been used to haul milk. Bought a used truck cab to pull it and it worked great for the district and was/still called into support other towns that are rural. This spending big bucks for a tanker that holds 5,000 gallons when you can get a used tanker and cab like they did that holds 11,000 gallons for probably 40 grand.
It was absolutely dumb luck for their nearest hydrant to be frozen. We had experienced more than a week of extremely cold temps before this fire, and this day was extremely cold too. Definitely frustrating!
Been reading the comments about this and what the armchair professionals are forgetting is this is the same fd that fought tooth and nail with the assistance of multiple mutual aid vfd's to put out the Christie's fire that spread to multiple other downtown structures and fought with so much water that the city's water treatment plant was down to less than 10% of volume and were getting ready to pump untreated river water into the mains to keep the boys pumping where this fire occurred there is minimal infrastructure to fight big fires like this which is not good considering how many gas stations hotels restaurants and other businesses up there
Good points John. It's not the fault of the firefighters if the hydrant infrastructure doesn't allow them to do their job easier. First hydrant was frozen, next nearest was actually too far away for supply line to reach, third and final option was to lay across the TransCanada, which needed to be closed in both directions. Definitely not a simple or instant action to perform.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Many Departments find themselves having to go into politics for this reason. Our organization has to constantly remind "The Board" when infrastructural changes are needed, as we continue to build farther away from big cities. Million dollar (US) homes with 1/4 mile driveways out there, only to find one hydrant and a pond 3 miles away, is quite discouraging when you show up 1st due. I find myself talking to citizens regularly to get them involved before it's too late. (And it's their house or business). And occasionally my own letter to a local Representative calling out such situations. But cutting into the Kenworth sign? Sacrilege! Great video and story. Stay safe!
@@charmcitytoe Disappointing indeed. Their nearest hydrant was frozen, and their next nearest was too far away for their hoses to reach, they had no other choice but to go across the highway. You'd think that in an industrial/commercial business area you'd have hydrants at almost every major property, unfortunately not. Thanks for the comment!
Nasty fire from the get go. Smoke color and force of it pushing. Garage doors impediment. Tower streams into the garage Bay Area would have done the job but it seems like small department. Considering the handlines used, they did a pretty good job. Not much manpower but the brothers did damn pretty well considering the chemicals and explosives it seemed inside. Stay safe from NYC.
Cheers from Manitoba. Unfortunately with their manpower they didn't have the aerial on scene when it was getting intense. They also didn't have enough water pressure to supply the pumper AND the master stream. Gotta work with what you've got I guess!
I read your ignorant comment and had the compulsion to spit on the floor. See those little windows in those garage doors? Aerials? This fire needed water inside on the burning material not on the roof. Go0d I hate hero worshippers!
@@JB91710 Ahhhh I remember you. Sad sad little man commenting horse shit on every fire video he sees. Watch out everybody, JB91710 is the GOD firefighter!
I'd have run like a jackrabbit at the first "boom." These guys are real professionals. So few of us really understand what these men and women go through on a daily basis. Well done, BFES, and thanks Liam Pattinson for posting this amazong video.
Great video Mr Pattison. I have a (possibly dumb) question for you experts (including automotive repair folk) What would produce that weird Yellow/green smoke while burning. Again, a great video! Stay safe!!!
Thank you very much for the kind words Ed, they're much appreciated. As for the smoke... I'm not sure. It was a heavy duty truck shop with semi trucks inside, so possibly could've been the byproduct of some semi materials catching fire, maybe a fuel tank letting go, or one of the other many hazardous materials that are present in heavy duty shops like this one. I'd be interested to find out the exact cause of that yellow/green smoke... it was a little worrying!
Mustard coloured smoke is a sign of an intense fire and is a result of the gasses - the smoke - containing a lot of unburnt products of combustion. I’ve never seen it quite so intensely yellow, the only time it come close was at a net factory. It could be burning something that’s causing that colour as well, but I’d be tempted to think that in the circumstances it’s just the intensity of the fire
Wow one of your best videos by far, really incredible shots especially showing the smoke conditions and colors. Question though not making any accusations just curiosity, is it a common practice for guys to be on air on the exterior from that distance or where the crews taking a precaution from the unknowns of what was burning? All in all tough fought fire.
Thanks pal, it was definitely a tough situation. I'm not 100% sure on their specific protocol, but a few of them were going inside into the office portion of the building before it got sketchy, so maybe they were still on air for that. Also likely in preparation for those doors to come down. And maybe a factor of it being such a wild incident that they didn't realize they were still on air either, other things on their mind maybe.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography @Demonracer2 there is a radius of what is called the collapse zone, normally the height of the building double anywhere within that "Collapse zone" you have to be on equipment with air. Incase of building collapse and you get buried alive in rubble. You wont have time to put it on during the collapse. - If there was a safety officer present, it doesn't look like it was they wouldn't have allowed that one person to be that close to the building unattended. While putting on his equipment, for that exact reason - Gas canisters, fuel tanks exploding, if that door didn't hold the potential of projectiles being fire in his direction was high. He wouldn't have seen it coming. Why they employ a buddy system similar to the Aviation Crew resource management.
Rule of thumb for your when the smoke starts turning from dark grey to black it is in the roof, once that happens it means the building is lost, 2nd a collapse can occur at anytime so caution is used, In addition to the fire burning weakening the structure supports. The fire department is adding gallons of water weight on top of an already weakened structure. - This is why if there is no life in danger you will see what you do here, They stand back and let it burn and protect the exposures buildings around. They risk a lot to save a lot, they risk little to save little. The only caveat to that is the risk of those canisters exploding. So they switch to foam, (which is even more weight.) So together with the smoke and junk being spewed out and the risk of potential collapse at any time is the reason they have to have gear on in the collapse zone.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography possibly, just curious especially with the distance the FF is at 2:50 from the building and wind direction I was surprised to see they were still on air.
@@bartsartdrawingchannel5949 thanks for that but I have been to numerous defensive operation fires both commercial and residential and I have never seen any FFs the distance of 2:50 on air ever, which is why I was asking if this is a typical protocol for this department/area
I asked the same question initially but then realized they were depending on a tanker shuttle to get the water they needed to work the GPM problem. As it is I think that line was pulled to do an initial hit on what looked like a vent limited fire and act as a standby line for the crew that went inside. Looks like they were holding their water for the interior crew who was likely doing a quick search on the office space... I know by conventional ... "rules of thumb" let's call it anything bigger than single room and contents gets a 65mm / 2.5" if logistics allow for it- but if you've got to make your water last dumping your tank in a minute and a half isn't always the most desirable option. For the sake of discussion I looked up Inland on google maps and measured the footprint of the involved space- learning it was roughly 20m x 60m. Using deductive reasoning, the fact you asked about "why" and said 1 3/4 tells me you know a thing or two and are in the US so I imagine you know that if we take that measurement in feet and call it about 75' x 200' and, at least 2 minutes in the video the structure is arguably one quarter to half involved (looking at what we can see along the Delta side I don't get the impression the whole length of the shop was involved) we know that we need at LEAST 1250GPM to control that fire let alone extinguish it. So I know why you asked... but what do you do if you can't put 1250GPM on that fire on arrival? To be blunt, you do what these guys did.
@@FromGamingwithLove0456 As a rule of thumb, 10 lpm x M2 suffice, a 60x20 m are 1.200 M2, but 1/4 burning were 300 M2, so you need a flow of 3.000 lpm. Direct from water on board, you can attain 2.000 lpm/500 gpm from each pumper, with two of them you have 1.000 gpm capability. So three 250 gpm each nozzle, had absorbed the heath and lowered down that fire intensity in 90% in 20-30 seconds using 1.000 to 1.500 liters, and still remaining 5.000 to 4.500 liters of water for mopping up/overhaul, but besides there was a line being laid to a working hydrant. The best exposure protection it´s putting the fire out ASAP!!!
It was very frustrating from the looks of things. Not much you can do when your nearest is frozen, next nearest is literally too far away for your hoses, and the only other option is shutting down the busiest highway in the province. Not a quick or simple thing to do. Thank you for realizing their struggles and not being an armchair quarterback. Cheers!
Wow. Very disorienting video. Was there any shot longer than 10 seconds? It's like looking at video still frames. We want to know what the result of any particular firefighting action was. Glamour shots just don't cut it except for the useless nightly news.
No point in holding a shot of the exact same stuff for multiple minutes. I keep my videos dynamic. I also had multiple longer clips in this video, get over it.
That was most of one of the most ferocious fires I have ever seen!
But I have so much respect for all you fifefighters in the US, and here in the UK. Fair play to you all!
Yeah it was a nasty and intense fire, very scary! Cheers!
This happened in canada lol
@@landcaster1234 Upper USA same difference...JOKING lol
As a VFF for 34 yrs is a very difficult fire since it's metal and it holds in heat and fire 🔥 Great job guys ! And great filming the beast .
Thank you very much Will, it was an intense one. Very difficult conditions.
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Nothing more frustrating trying to fight a fire, but no water available. Winter sucks!! Great job by the firefighters, great job filming
Thank you for the kind words! It indeed would've been very frustrating. Tons of armchair quarterbacks in these comments throwing their two cents in on a situation they don't know about, disappointing. They did what they could with the resources they had.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography do you know why additional units were not called in to bring the smoke under control?
This stunning video should have a sub title giving the current weather conditions and wind chill. Also including the fact that that only one of the several available hydrants were frozen! The windchill was something between -40 and -50C.
You bet, was a intense and frustrating set of circumstances these firefighters faced.
Shirley check out Jeff stang fire Marcal paper factory inferno p4 10 alarm a must see wow.
Great coverage! I'd love to see uncut version to really get a sense of how the fire went.
Thank you! I switch between videos and photos so I am not able to film continuously throughout an incident, but I'll try and get longer clips on the next one!
Wow. That’s sad. Great footage I’m guessing the smoke was from burning trucks and parts (oils and such also) damn what a fire.
Yup for sure. Lots of extremely flammable and combustible materials in there, including semi trucks.
I've never seen smoke that color in my life. Great job guys! 💯
Me either, definitely was a little concerning! Thanks for your comment.
Last year I worked a fire on a massive ground transformer that was for our cities water treatment facility. Lightning strike was the cause. We noticed that the flame was green and blue and the smoke that followed was a yellowish color, just like the video here. There is a mineral oil in some transformers used for cooling. It was wild looking. I’m not saying that the yellow smoke from this video is caused by the same stuff. I was just sharing my experience.
@@johnr.7374 Interesting. Never would have guessed Mineral oil did that. I watch a lot of fire videos and this one is nuts. When I saw that green/yellow smoke I wanted to evacuate my house. You guys are awesome. Thank you for your service 💯
@@johnr.7374 Interesting! This was my first time seeing that colour of smoke. I was definitely backing up as I was filming lol
been a ff for 22 years now and a mechanic. Saw that color of smoke at a fire once. It turned out to be R143a refrigerant. They probably had a collection tank that blew.
My first guess for the yellow smoke was sulfur because sulphur is yellow. Crude oil comes with varying amounts of sulfur in it. (The less sulphur, the “sweeter” it is) There are pits full of sulfur around refineries with the sulfur removed in the refining process. (If you drive through Eastern New Mexico where there are a lot of working oil wells, you can smell the sulphur in the air; refineries smell like that too.) There was probably some petroleum contaminated with sulfur because it turns out that sulphur burns with yellow smoke. People on site could have easily smelled it. Did you smell it while recording?
No I didn't, I wasn't planning on getting any closer to that yellow smoke. Thanks for the info though, interesting to learn about!
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Yep, and the hydrogen that makes up the hydrocarbons in crude oil reacts with the sulfur to produce hydrogen sulfide which gets carried along with the crude oil as it's pumped out of the ground, and this stuff not only smells nasty and is horribly toxic, it can also explode under certain conditions.
Chemically speaking…. Garage…truck garage…. Yellow would think some sulfide/ sulfur content. Green, geeeeze some variant of chlorine powder. And neither identification is going to help at this stage, except, don’t breathe it.
Yep mask on and go in 2 1/2 blazing, keep your head down and watch for incoming;!
I clicked on like and it changed from 999 to 1k. Omg that is massive. I bet those hardworking firemen feel like taking 5 showers when they get home. :)
Thank you for viewing and liking, much appreciated! It was a crazy fire. So many challenges, especially with the cold.
Hopefully there was a useful after action debrief..
One last comment for Liam Pattison, it would be an extra "treat" if follow up video from after the fire is struck could be added to quality footage as this. Just a suggestion. I have worked at companies that have had fires. Sometimes to get the real scope of the damage follow-up footage could tell the rest of the story.
I'm completely impressed..............the foundation was saved!
When you’ve no water , sorry for the owners
they had water just very bad maintenance on equipment
I am curious about what the back half looked like. Just doing a little exercise on reading the smoke I'm wondering where the fire was getting the air to build up the way it did. Once those lower windows on the garage were burnt out then it's easy to figure out what was up- but there's a lot of condition change in the smoke from arrival to that point. It darkens down, increases in density and velocity... Where is it getting the air to do that?
(Edit: I measured out the shop on google maps and it's pretty big- 20m x 60m... so lots of air in that shop to help build up the fire.)
I looked up "Inland" and it's a heavy duty mechanic shop... Those "explosions" MAY actually just be tires on big rigs blowing off. I've heard the PRVs on propane cylinders etc. venting before and it's pretty obvious pre BLEVE... Big rig tires blowing off (would explain the number of pops) seems like a likely possibility- They do let go with a pretty awakening bump and it would certainly explain the minimal change in fire condition after they happen. I did, however, notice once the door came down that you could actually see something venting- which did end up BLEVE'ing... I'm not sure they all were but either way the fact it's "unknown" is significant.
I also noticed, to the credit of the folks doing the entry through the "people" door that the door was controlled while they searched to minimize air entry- must admit I was impressed they had the presence of mind to manage the door to limit ventilation instead of barbarically ripping it off the hinges while trying to scare the fire out (like we used to do).
If I could make one recommendation to the living tripod who put together this video (credit to the excellent video quality and stability)- if conditions allow and to make the videos as beneficial as possible for those of us who are scanning the interwebs for learning opportunities (few of us are fighting a lot of fires anymore so we need all the help we can get), a quick shot of all 4 sides of the building as early as possible would be an excellent addition (my opinion only).
Thanks for the great video and to our brothers and sisters in Brandon stay warm out there.
Thanks for the kind words! From what I could see, there wasn't a whole lot happening at the back. The back of the building was actually fenced in (with some gates) so I wouldn't have been able to get back there. Additionally most of the "action" was happening up front, so I wanted to stay there.
And yes, it was quite a big building. Had a shop portion, office portion and what looked like a storage/parts portion, so lots of opportunity for airflow.
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Hey Gaming, today I learned the term BLEVE, because of you. Neat. Thanks, dude. 😊
All those frozen hydrants. The city and the department need to get to the bottom of that issue.
Where else in the city, is that the case? Without water, you're powerless to fight fire. Were the underground water supply lines, and the hydrants themselves, installed properly, and does the fire department conduct regular checks of the hydrants?
those brandon guys catch some serious fires and do a great job being a small dept. Just glad none of my stuff was at the dealer thats going to be an insurance nightmare.
They do what they can with the resources they have. In my opinion they're severely understaffed, especially considering they run/handle all EMS calls within the city and surrounding area as well.
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Good job. It got hot before they could ever start. Smoke & soot damages to everything inside before it got going. Look at all that smoke coming from everywhere. What a challenge. Job well done.
Good video, If I were you I would send this video to the department to review - the fire fighter should have never been in that position his life was saved by the door. HE never would have seen it coming. If it hadn't of hold. He was busy looking down getting his gear on, let his guard down and it almost cost him. You can tell just by how fast he scampered away. This is something that should have never happened. You either get ready before you go in, or you have someone with you to watch you back while you get ready. - Either way it be better if the department saw this, so they can trap these errors and fix them from happening again. So they're not attending his funeral next time.
I'd have to disagree. As soon as those explosions started going off he moved back like he should've. Video is deceiving too, he was farther back than it looked on video.
On good lord...hope all souls were well following this awful fire xxx
Thankfully nobody was injured!
All I could think about watching this was "Let's Go Brandon"
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Thank you for the kind words, cheers!
Sounded like propane tanks going off. I have seen a few of those fires. I stayed blocks away as they were being launched like a rocket.
Very dynamic fire, dangerous one to fight. Glad there were no injuries!
I'm no expert how come it seems to take ages to start fighting the fire? Too risky?..... Just asking is all
Look at my description. I explain how they had water supply issues, and needed to close down the busiest highway in the province to get a line across. That takes time.
Green smoke?! That’s some nasty stuff right there. Great job man! What a ripper!
I was slowly walking backwards when those explosions were happening and that door dropped... big NOPE! Lol. Thanks for watching man, one of my most intense fire videos.
Might have been coincidence but I noticed a couple of respirators went on as soon as that coloured smoke showed!
Its good to show videos like this. It shows the incompetence and wasted tax money
What an ignorant and disrespectful comment. Read my description before giving your uneducated opinion next time.
I'm curious what the explosions were from
This was a commercial semi truck dealership/mechanic shop, so there are plenty of combustible materials in a place like this. I believe there were a couple semi trucks inside at the time of the fire, so it could've been their tires, shocks, fuel tanks, or other materials in the shop like propane tanks, acetylene tanks, etc.
Thank god they got some water.
Since that's a metal sided building, and wires are arcing, there's a good chance that all the siding is energized. So even with good hydrants, they wouldn't be able to put water on the fire until the electric was shut off. And yes, those Euro style helmets look goofy.
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GPMs vs BTUs until the GPM is greater than the BTUs fire won’t go out .. Laymond’s terms big fire big water
You bet. Can't have big water when your hydrants are frozen/too far away.
what a fire! awesome coverage dude
Thanks very much pal, definitely one of the most intense fires I've been on. Thanks for watching!
Wow! That one was an intense beast! Great work and excellent footage.
It was very intense, thanks Pam!
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the explosions are probably tires on the vehicles inside cooking off. A truck tire makes a good bomb when it fails suddenly, like when its on a burning vehicle.
After the fact I believe they were truck tires, but at the time the concussion was quite intense, and obviously there were many combustible materials in there, so I was worried they were canisters of some kind going off. Scary situation.
...und ich dachte immer, die Feuerwehr wäre zum löschen da...? Oder haben die Jungs das Feuerchen mit einem Barbecue verwechselt? Oder wie sonst läßt sich erklären, das man erstmal ruhig zuschaut, wie der ganze Laden erstmal ordentlich in Flammen aufgeht, bevor endlich mal einer auf die Idee kommt, mal etwas Wasser in die Flammen zu spritzen? Und wieso hört man dann mehrfach wieder auf und läßt es wieder kräftig auflodern? So einen seltsamen Einsatz habe ich noch nicht gesehen...
Kudos to all the fire fighters whom fought this large blaze. I was a FF/medic for 20 years part time paid in call worked on both suburban and rural Dept one we had hydrants the other we had 5-and 8 000 gallon tankers with portable ponds but first scene I see is two engines parked no lines out or dropped no other water truck in science yet and guys kinda just wondering around not really doing anything no real sense of urgency understand No one in building and a metal structure yes I herd the explosion going off maybe welding tanks or fuel tanks . They watched and waited for overhead doors to really burn and then fall before and real water was put down and the later in video finally some one cut side open that should have been down a while ago nobody on roof cross cutting for ventilation also can’t believe no body has a deck gun / master stream ready to knock down the heavy stuff but with no water truck in scene and only having tank water your screwed so that sucks KUDOS TO ALL THE GUYS AND GALS WHOM FOUGHT THUS BLAZE JUST NOT THE WAY WE DO THINGS HERE IN ILLINOIS like I said I was on a all volunteer FD in southern Illinois where I lived for 6 years till I moved back to south suburbs fought combine fires, acres of soy bean crop fire 80 acres several barn fires house fires along with a sad Dec horse barn fire lost 10 horses out 50 , car wrecks gun shots etc etc etc I’m not gods gift of fireman nor will I claim to be just my observation of video I was not there but just look at video in beginning a lot of walking around looking and having there SCBA BREATHING FRESH OXYGEN FIR WHAT PURPOSE out side of fire scene SMOKE WAS TRAVELING UP IN AIR NOR ACROSS FIRE SCENE endangering any and all fire personal not trying to pick on anyone just see what I see stay safe all 26 year in fire service FF/Medic
Many of them weren't on air. You can have your regulator clipped to your mask/hanging from your mask without actually being on air. They weren't wasting air.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography yes 100% correct but if not enetering or going to breach the roof or door window why have it on till needed it only takes 1 min or less to Don or Dof the SCBA WHERE I CAME FROM when on the engine first out or second and told to pack up ment you were going in to fire to fight fire or search and rescue along with a hose line or vent the roof other than that out side in a hose line no mask on fire bless it was deemed un safe be cause of obnoxious fumes or smoke blowing directly in the fireman throwing water on the fire then yes masks on now in the event of a car or truck fire masks on it regardless due to plastics in the cars and poisonous gases escaping the the vehicle fire along with all the PCBs then not to mention first thing your taught while rolling to a fire scene and a block or two away you see the smoke or header rolling your grabbing the 1 1/2 or 2 1/2 line flaking it off engine dragging it off and ready for fist bit of tank water to start your attack
Why are they Not dropping water or foam on this till now
Read my description
OOOOOOH sprinkle some water on that and stand around, great job everybody!\
Try reading first
What’s the new building look like?
It looks like it's made out of mostly concrete instead of metal, and it looks quite impressive.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography thanks for the reply, always interesting to see challenges other departments face. Looks like it was one heck of a fire.
That cold was brutal
It was an awfully cold day, although thankfully slightly warmer than a few days prior to this which was nice.
I always thought water was quite effective in putting out a fire, and you actually had to squirt it on. Seems like US firefighters disagree - or is it a case of less is more...
What an ignorant comment. Read my description before giving your uneducated opinion next time.
What is the yellow smoke from? Propane? Acetylene? What kind of gas produces that color? Crazy !!!! Hope all the FF’s are safe.
Peace ✌️
I'm not sure what it was. It was a heavy duty mechanic shop with semi trucks inside, so there were lots of hazardous materials in there, including likely propane and acetylene. Could've possibly been a diesel tank letting go too? Not sure... either way I wasn't getting any closer when I saw that lol. Thanks for the comment!
Man that fire sure got ahead of them
Unfortunate series of events with their water supply issues and an already well established fire.
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There goes a brokerage loss ratio.....wonder who is on this risk....hopefully no one got hurt.....sad to see stuff like this...hope they can rebuild soon #supportsmallbiz
I hope they're able to rebuild too. Thankfully no injuries!
No truck companies, no venting in early stages, opening those doors.. Just wondered why they wouldn't of went after it with deck gun etc.
Why vent when you have no water supply? Read my description, you'll see their challenges.
Opening those doors? They quite literally melted and collapsed. Watch the video again, if the buildings gonna self vent, it's gonna self vent. 🤦♂️
Зачем тушить пока еще не разгорелось?
Хорошо тушили - сгорело всё.
- О смотри, электричество не отрубили, коротит. Давай польём водичкой?!
- Хорошая идея)))
Omg that smoke is so high in the air
Yup
Are they volunteers?
No. IAFF Local 803
That yellow toxic smoke.
Uh, all smoke is toxic, some is just more toxic than other smoke.
5:30 chief got scard by the fire hose
No, it was because of the explosion.
It is something like, first let it burn to ashes and extinguish what remains .
Why does the firefighter with a charged line just stand there?
Read my description.
Why did they not deploy a ladder or platform to give them a better angle of attack?
By the time the aerial was able to be brought to the fire there was no fire blowing through the roof, therefore there was no access points for water to come through from above with a master stream.
Man good thing those doors held that explosion. Poor ff would have had a nasty day if not. Time to nope right on out of there.
That's what I was thinking too, was backing up as I was filming!
They should really start to consider changing some Things in America in Regards of the Fire Fighting Department. Some of there Tactics etc look totaly out of Time, and i know the Problem in Regards of Frozen Hydrants, Problems with getting Water etc. but they should start working with the Town etc and for example build Huge Large underground water cisterns on some Points in those Regions, who are Frost Safe. I dont know if Any towns in America have those, but here in Europe for example have a lot of Countrys those Cisterns where all the Rainwater is led into and Firefighter can use them in Case they dont have other Options (some of them are in a Way huge Ponds or so who can freeze in Winter, but others are build Underground and are Frostsafe).
Also, i dont understand why they try to Cut Open the Walls with there " Small " Equipment. Dont they have the Options in America to Contact Companies who are equipped with Excavators with a gripper arm or similar equipment to tear down the metal walls of those warehouses? That would make it a Thousand Times easyer to Reach the Fire inside.
That is a Standard Procedure in Germany and other European Countrys and even Japan, here in Germany even we have the THW (THW, Federal Agency for Technical Relief) who have at some Points Excavators and Wheel Loader to Tear apart those Metal Walls.
This was actually in Canada, not America. An excavator was brought in later on in the night to tear the building apart.
They sure won’t aggressive.
What many alarms? 1st, 2nd, 3rd?
Brandon's not really big enough to have alarms. They don't have the resources/manpower to have alarms. Any fire that happens in Brandon, every single firefighter responds, so it's simply an all hands on deck sort of situation. In a bigger city this likely would've been a 2nd or 3rd alarm, depending on how many trucks are sent on the initial dispatch.
Смотрю не первое видео работы пожарных а США. Мне не понятно почему пожарные так долго ходят и не подают воду в очаг горения. Допустим в начале ролика можно было подавать воду во внутрь здания через окна в воротах, при этом быть защищённом у от высокой температуры, но дождались пока ворота прогорели и начали работать уже подвергая себя гораздо большему риску. Каждая секунда на счету. Если кто-то сможет дать развернутый ответ буду благодарен.
I hope this translates well into your language. They had major water supply issues including frozen fire hydrants. Their only option was to close the busiest highway in the province, that action takes time and is not quick.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography возможно выше описанные проблемы были, видео не передает всей картины событий. 2:00 воду уже подали в рукав, 4:45 начали лить в огонь. Не первое видео с такими действиями. Видел один человек работает со ствола, его не хватает пять человек в кадре таскают пустые рукава туда сюда. Надеюсь в переводе мой текст понятен. Желаю вам сухих рукавов в работе.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography извините я не очень хорошо владею английским языком. Прочитал описание к видео отпало множество вопросов. Я работаю пожарным в России, мы сначала выливаем воду которую привезли с собой, в это время ведётся поиск и постановка на водоисточник для того чтобы создать не прирывную подачу воды.
I was just thinking, might be a good idea to squirt some water on that fier
Read my description.
Are 153 and 211 probies that haven't received their real helmet yet?
Brandon's transitioning to those style of helmets.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography 🤣🤣🤣 wow
Oh no what the fireman is waiting he almost prepare the hose why he did not fire water to the building he wait the fire will blown how could they turn off the fire and wait many properties inside more damage
Not to be 'that guy', but this particular crew is not very good, lol. All that equipment, but no structure or organization, at all. Nonetheless, good job and thank ya'll for what for you do on the daily. Keep it up boys.
So there's this guy called 195, who puts a yellow helmet on his head, gloves on his hands, hesitates for a while, picks up what looks like a charged line, and then wanders aimlessly about with it for several minutes, with a roaring fire right in front of him. What exactly was he up to? Did he really have to wait for red helmet guy to show him what to do, i.e. spray water at the flames?
If you were to actually read my description you'd find the answer to your question Mr. Armchair Quarterback. They didn't have a water supply. Conserve your water until you get a stable water supply.
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I have a question for the Americans and American fire fighters a lot of the time I see them standing around and not putting water on the fire now I no they aren’t just standing around doing nothing I’m just wondering what are they waiting for cause in my country when the fire services turn up almost within 5 minutes they always have water going on the fire. Now with that being said that could be a good or a bad thing I’m not a fire fighter so I’m not sure why these practise are the way they are just a question anyone got an answer too
Why are they letting it burn down
They're not, read my description
What State is this BRANDON in.?
Look at the title
I hope the mechanics aren't stuck with the bill for their tools! As if times aren't hard enough...
Probably they're stuck. A mechanics tools are his personal property. He choses where to leave them when he works, and unless they're insured, the business owner has no liability for them. the employee would have to sue him to recover the cost of his tools, and in the meantime he's out of work and shit out of luck!
@@imapaine-diaz4451 Yeah, that's what I am worried about. Many places require you to bring your own tools so that they aren't liable for them.
What was that yellow smoke from anyone know?
No idea, very toxic stuff though.
1:13 - Is this personal choice or are they testing a new helmet?
I believe they're slowly transitioning to that new style of helmet. Some members have them before others.
Greetings from Germany.
Very good Video !
what's the reason withe the European Helmet ?
Thank you for the kind words! Some fire departments in North America are transitioning to this European style of helmet based off of supposed safety improvements over the traditional style of North American helmets.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography thanks Form the Answer !
Good Luck and stay safe.
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Boom booms make cameraman nervous lol.
Sure did lol
The line is charged. Open it already.
They did not have a water supply for quite a while (look at my description).
@@LiamPattisonPhotography I understand, but the line was swollen, fully charged. Can't they use what they got to try to slow it down? Honestly just wondering
@@leightongalleries6057 Well sure they could've. But what happens when they've used all their tank water and suddenly they need water to cool down a gas meter to prevent it from exploding? What happens if there was someone inside that needs a rescue but they can't get to them because they have no water? What if a nearby building or vehicle is in danger of catching fire but they have no water?
There's no way they would've been able to put that fire out with just their tank water, so they were conserving it incase an urgent need for it arose, until they got a stable water supply. Basically what I'm saying is if they used up all their tank water it would've been nearly useless, and they would've been vulnerable if something urgent happened.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Understood. Thank you
Tough fire. Need more master water , and additional firemen truck ladder did nothing.
Ladder truck did nothing because the only available hydrant they had access to was being used to supply a pumper with 6 lines coming off of it, not enough water to supply the aerial as well
It feels like we are fighting fire with primitive technology.
Jesus it took them long enough to do anything
Dude, that’s a bitch of a fire to fight. Shut up
Ignorant comment, read my description and you'll understand their challenges.
I am British and greatly admire America, but it always seems to me to take your firefighters much longer than ours to actually start applying water to the fire.
Read my description. You'll understand their challenges.
This isn’t America bud
That's the first time I have seen American firefighters wearing a modern well designed fire helmet. About time.
*Canadian. But yes they're becoming more popular in North America.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography I did wonder if they were Canadian Liam. Nice to see some of the departments finally getting a modern fir helmet.
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Woah! Back up
Wow! That was a hurry up and let it burn! What gives?
Read my description.
Yup, way too many BTUs for the GPMs available.
Wow, that's some intense footage- great job! I bet you were able to feel the heat when that rolling door collapsed. Also glad the wind was blowing away from you - that smoke looked nasty!
Thanks much Lucas, it got a little warm where I was but I bet it was scorching for those firefighters who were up closer. Definitely was slowly moving back as that was all unfolding!
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To all the armchairs firefighters typing a comment, keep in mind: this is rural firefighting. There are not hydrants at every corner, or even at every other corner. And if you’re truly on the job, you know that you need water to fight a fire. Every department does things differently. So unless your going to give them crap about the euro helmets, I’d keep it to yourself. :)
There are many reasons for the euro helments too, Heavy SAR, Airial Teams utilize, Medical reasons for FF safety etc. Good catch good comments OKie
Was a very dynamic scene with multiple issues, very frustrating. Frozen hydrants, too far away hydrants, needing police/highways to shut down the highway to run a line across, all with minimal staffing and a rippin' fire. Not every department has unlimited resources.
It is a terrible feeling for firefighters when they don’t have enough water to properly attack the fire. Deck guns and big pumpers won’t do anything if you don’t have the water supply system to back them up. I looks to me that they did a pretty good job with what they had.👍
Perhaps with their rural district and limited water supply, consideration should be given to more pumper-tanker type apparatus with CAFS. I currently work in a county with only a few hydrants in the towns only. We have an apparatus committee and have been upgrading to pumper-tankers with CAFS and large attack tenders for the past 12 years. It has helped us a lot and helped to lower insurance rates in some areas.
In a rural area near where I lived, there were few hydrants. Fire dept went out and bought a good used stainless steel tanker truck that had been used to haul milk. Bought a used truck cab to pull it and it worked great for the district and was/still called into support other towns that are rural. This spending big bucks for a tanker that holds 5,000 gallons when you can get a used tanker and cab like they did that holds 11,000 gallons for probably 40 grand.
I was wondering why it took so long to get water on the fire, never had to deal with a frozen hydrant. Thats a bad day. Well done guys.
It was absolutely dumb luck for their nearest hydrant to be frozen. We had experienced more than a week of extremely cold temps before this fire, and this day was extremely cold too. Definitely frustrating!
Been reading the comments about this and what the armchair professionals are forgetting is this is the same fd that fought tooth and nail with the assistance of multiple mutual aid vfd's to put out the Christie's fire that spread to multiple other downtown structures and fought with so much water that the city's water treatment plant was down to less than 10% of volume and were getting ready to pump untreated river water into the mains to keep the boys pumping where this fire occurred there is minimal infrastructure to fight big fires like this which is not good considering how many gas stations hotels restaurants and other businesses up there
Good points John. It's not the fault of the firefighters if the hydrant infrastructure doesn't allow them to do their job easier. First hydrant was frozen, next nearest was actually too far away for supply line to reach, third and final option was to lay across the TransCanada, which needed to be closed in both directions. Definitely not a simple or instant action to perform.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Many Departments find themselves having to go into politics for this reason. Our organization has to constantly remind "The Board" when infrastructural changes are needed, as we continue to build farther away from big cities. Million dollar (US) homes with 1/4 mile driveways out there, only to find one hydrant and a pond 3 miles away, is quite discouraging when you show up 1st due. I find myself talking to citizens regularly to get them involved before it's too late. (And it's their house or business). And occasionally my own letter to a local Representative calling out such situations. But cutting into the Kenworth sign? Sacrilege! Great video and story. Stay safe!
@@charmcitytoe Disappointing indeed. Their nearest hydrant was frozen, and their next nearest was too far away for their hoses to reach, they had no other choice but to go across the highway. You'd think that in an industrial/commercial business area you'd have hydrants at almost every major property, unfortunately not. Thanks for the comment!
That yellow smoke is reminiscent of burning sulphur. Wondering what was burning there to produce that particular shade of yellow smoke
i am just going to guess it may be Oil. they do (did) have a ton of oil on site for oil changes
Nasty fire from the get go. Smoke color and force of it pushing. Garage doors impediment.
Tower streams into the garage Bay Area would have done the job but it seems like small department.
Considering the handlines used, they did a pretty good job.
Not much manpower but the brothers did damn pretty well considering the chemicals and explosives it seemed inside.
Stay safe from NYC.
Cheers from Manitoba. Unfortunately with their manpower they didn't have the aerial on scene when it was getting intense. They also didn't have enough water pressure to supply the pumper AND the master stream. Gotta work with what you've got I guess!
I read your ignorant comment and had the compulsion to spit on the floor. See those little windows in those garage doors? Aerials? This fire needed water inside on the burning material not on the roof. Go0d I hate hero worshippers!
@@JB91710 who said anything about aerials ?
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I'd have run like a jackrabbit at the first "boom." These guys are real professionals. So few of us really understand what these men and women go through on a daily basis. Well done, BFES, and thanks Liam Pattinson for posting this amazong video.
Thank you for the kind comment, cheers!
Water issues, weather issues and more. A bastard of a fire to fight.
Well done firefighters.
Very frustrating I'd imagine, they did what they could with what they had.
Great video Mr Pattison. I have a (possibly dumb) question for you experts (including automotive repair folk) What would produce that weird Yellow/green smoke while burning. Again, a great video! Stay safe!!!
Thank you very much for the kind words Ed, they're much appreciated. As for the smoke... I'm not sure. It was a heavy duty truck shop with semi trucks inside, so possibly could've been the byproduct of some semi materials catching fire, maybe a fuel tank letting go, or one of the other many hazardous materials that are present in heavy duty shops like this one. I'd be interested to find out the exact cause of that yellow/green smoke... it was a little worrying!
Mustard coloured smoke is a sign of an intense fire and is a result of the gasses - the smoke - containing a lot of unburnt products of combustion. I’ve never seen it quite so intensely yellow, the only time it come close was at a net factory. It could be burning something that’s causing that colour as well, but I’d be tempted to think that in the circumstances it’s just the intensity of the fire
Thats what def fluid does after it explodes,after all it is spent ammonium nitrate
2:25 yup time to back up!
You bet!
Those are fire trucks….whenever there’s a fire you see them there standing around while the fires consume everything
Wow one of your best videos by far, really incredible shots especially showing the smoke conditions and colors. Question though not making any accusations just curiosity, is it a common practice for guys to be on air on the exterior from that distance or where the crews taking a precaution from the unknowns of what was burning? All in all tough fought fire.
Thanks pal, it was definitely a tough situation. I'm not 100% sure on their specific protocol, but a few of them were going inside into the office portion of the building before it got sketchy, so maybe they were still on air for that. Also likely in preparation for those doors to come down. And maybe a factor of it being such a wild incident that they didn't realize they were still on air either, other things on their mind maybe.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography @Demonracer2 there is a radius of what is called the collapse zone, normally the height of the building double anywhere within that "Collapse zone" you have to be on equipment with air. Incase of building collapse and you get buried alive in rubble. You wont have time to put it on during the collapse. - If there was a safety officer present, it doesn't look like it was they wouldn't have allowed that one person to be that close to the building unattended. While putting on his equipment, for that exact reason - Gas canisters, fuel tanks exploding, if that door didn't hold the potential of projectiles being fire in his direction was high. He wouldn't have seen it coming. Why they employ a buddy system similar to the Aviation Crew resource management.
Rule of thumb for your when the smoke starts turning from dark grey to black it is in the roof, once that happens it means the building is lost, 2nd a collapse can occur at anytime so caution is used, In addition to the fire burning weakening the structure supports. The fire department is adding gallons of water weight on top of an already weakened structure.
- This is why if there is no life in danger you will see what you do here, They stand back and let it burn and protect the exposures buildings around. They risk a lot to save a lot, they risk little to save little. The only caveat to that is the risk of those canisters exploding. So they switch to foam, (which is even more weight.) So together with the smoke and junk being spewed out and the risk of potential collapse at any time is the reason they have to have gear on in the collapse zone.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography possibly, just curious especially with the distance the FF is at 2:50 from the building and wind direction I was surprised to see they were still on air.
@@bartsartdrawingchannel5949 thanks for that but I have been to numerous defensive operation fires both commercial and residential and I have never seen any FFs the distance of 2:50 on air ever, which is why I was asking if this is a typical protocol for this department/area
ну эти американские клоуны ! огонь горит а они ходят ,зевают ,яйца чешут .
What a miserable set of circumstances they had to contend with. I don’t think I could handle that kind of cold. Great videography btw.
Thank you for the kind words Brian, it was quite a frustrating set of circumstances.
Brian Gary check out..Jeff stang fire ..Marcal paper factory inferno p4 10 alarm a must see wow.
Why in the heck would you even pull an 1 and 3/4 on that?
Pretty sure they didn't have the water to supply master streams. Doing the best they can with what they got to work with imo.
I asked the same question initially but then realized they were depending on a tanker shuttle to get the water they needed to work the GPM problem. As it is I think that line was pulled to do an initial hit on what looked like a vent limited fire and act as a standby line for the crew that went inside. Looks like they were holding their water for the interior crew who was likely doing a quick search on the office space...
I know by conventional ... "rules of thumb" let's call it anything bigger than single room and contents gets a 65mm / 2.5" if logistics allow for it- but if you've got to make your water last dumping your tank in a minute and a half isn't always the most desirable option.
For the sake of discussion I looked up Inland on google maps and measured the footprint of the involved space- learning it was roughly 20m x 60m. Using deductive reasoning, the fact you asked about "why" and said 1 3/4 tells me you know a thing or two and are in the US so I imagine you know that if we take that measurement in feet and call it about 75' x 200' and, at least 2 minutes in the video the structure is arguably one quarter to half involved (looking at what we can see along the Delta side I don't get the impression the whole length of the shop was involved) we know that we need at LEAST 1250GPM to control that fire let alone extinguish it.
So I know why you asked... but what do you do if you can't put 1250GPM on that fire on arrival? To be blunt, you do what these guys did.
Ron Bradley check out Jeff stang fire Marcal paper factory inferno p4 10 alarm a must see wow.
@@FromGamingwithLove0456 As a rule of thumb, 10 lpm x M2 suffice, a 60x20 m are 1.200 M2, but 1/4 burning were 300 M2, so you need a flow of 3.000 lpm. Direct from water on board, you can attain 2.000 lpm/500 gpm from each pumper, with two of them you have 1.000 gpm capability. So three 250 gpm each nozzle, had absorbed the heath and lowered down that fire intensity in 90% in 20-30 seconds using 1.000 to 1.500 liters, and still remaining 5.000 to 4.500 liters of water for mopping up/overhaul, but besides there was a line being laid to a working hydrant.
The best exposure protection it´s putting the fire out ASAP!!!
Being an Arizona FF I can't imagine having to deal with a frozen hydrant. Nice job adjusting and securing water. Big Fire = LOTS of water.
It was very frustrating from the looks of things. Not much you can do when your nearest is frozen, next nearest is literally too far away for your hoses, and the only other option is shutting down the busiest highway in the province. Not a quick or simple thing to do. Thank you for realizing their struggles and not being an armchair quarterback. Cheers!
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У "этих" такой закон - что горит то должно сгореть.
Wow. Very disorienting video. Was there any shot longer than 10 seconds? It's like looking at video still frames. We want to know what the result of any particular firefighting action was. Glamour shots just don't cut it except for the useless nightly news.
No point in holding a shot of the exact same stuff for multiple minutes. I keep my videos dynamic. I also had multiple longer clips in this video, get over it.
Incredible on scene footage! Ive watched a couple times now.
Thank you very much! Definitely one of my craziest scenes, cool to see it be my most viewed video too.
Why did they stop putting water on the fire? Could have saved a lot.
looks like big fire and small water 😐
Meanwhile, while we are all sitting lokking at and making comments, someone's business that supports families is literally going up in smoke.
Very bright business!!!
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Stfu u act like they have no money at all