I ordered a 24 2500 rebel in February and the MSRP was $90,000 by the time it was built a month later the sticker price was $81,000. I qualified for a 10% cashback incentive and I ended up paying about $73,000. 😊
A new transmission isn't a reason to wait for 2025, IMO. That said, discounts aren't enough for me to jump on a 2024. At the moment, there's really nothing worth my time with Ram.
I'm a huge Ram fanboy admittedly, but I never understood them moving prices way past GM and matching Ford, who all offered vastly updated truck. They kinda shot themselves in the foot because they outpriced themselves realistically out of the market. We truck guys take that purchase very seriously, so obviously buyers were gonna go cold on Ram, despite the 3500 H.O. being a true towing beast. I'd be curious to see how this new pricing strategy pans out for them. I think the 24s will have sizeable incentives because just as Ram lowered pricing, the over truck market is cooling very fast. Trucks that were virtually bought at MSRP last year now have discounts. If Ram can somehow do a generous update(yes, we all want new cabs, but Ram will likely retain it for the next few years) yet hold price increases nominally, they may get back deep into the swing of things.
The previous CEO of Stellantis North America was using the American market cars to pay for the euro market along with the merger fees. Thus, the crazy price raises out of nowhere. He got fired, and now the new guys are bringing the prices to a more "realistic" level
Y'all are forgetting they jacked the price way up over the chip shortage and now that it's over they're taking away a couple bucks and people think 75-90k for a new truck is worth it. What's going to happen when you spend all your homes equity and you only make 60k a year? The resale value on those isn't even close to what you paid. Maybe 40-50 k at best. So throw away roughly 30k? This is a sales pitch the word is that these companies are choking because they can't sell them!
If you make 60k a year these trucks are not for you. When you make 250-300 it isn’t such a big deal losing 30k over some time when you’re working the truck and making 30- or so a month clear. If you make 60k a year , you can afford A 10k truck. And pay cash for it. Sorry. That’s what it is.
I wish they had lower the price before I traded my 2022 Laramie I was having a lot of problems with it and parts was almost 2 years out but the one thing that send me to another manufactory was they told me that my bell housing was leaking oil and all they would do is to watch it. At little over 22,000 miles on it I didn't want them to tell me that they couldn't fix it because it was out of warranty and aside from the part that they was supposed to get, so I left, I loved all of my Ram trucks but it was time for me to move on and I'm happy, will I ever go back, well time will tell.
Not an apples to apples comparison but I have had two Cummins my last was a 2019. Loved the truck, cashed out at the top of the Covid market, paid 49.5 traded it for 56 two years later it was used when I bought it. Just bought a 2024 Tradesman Crew 6.4 hemi with 10k dollars in options for 14k under sticker, 62k on the window OTD @ 48.9 plus tax and tags. Does the ford have more power, sure. If you’re keeping it forever is the aluminum nice, sure. But neither of those two things are 12-14k worth it nicer. Ram may not be the perfect truck but for a well optioned current model year heavy duty truck for under 50k I could care less.
Alot of the new cummins are really having an oil consumption problem. Just worked on a 23 today that was 6 its low on oil. We last checked the oil 2k miles ago.
We've been using Amsoil OE 10w30 ADN diesel oil and oil consumption has been cut down significantly But been thinking of getting rid of the ram cummins and going with 2025 ford 6.7 HO powerstroke F450s
In my opinion the Laramie and up should come standard with things like bed lights, LED lighting and the full digital gauge cluster. That gauge cluster has been standard since 2012 and it's just dated.
2:00 you prefer the durability of a solid axle? What have you broke on an IFS ? We have 13 GM ifs trucks at the Hwy dept I’m the mechanic at, zero issues,and these trucks plow and get run hard every day, not a single issue,not even a bad ball joint,nothing in the 150-200k miles we put on them before they are rust out. Similar solid axle trucks included my personal f350 have the entire front end rebuilt,my 11 f350 has had all 4 ball joints and u joints replaced along w steering stabilizer and tie rods. So tired of ppl judging IFS by the morons that level them and put 14wides on them and break a cv joint pulling on blacktop, you caused your own problems, these ifs are plenty strong especially from 2011 to current.
My 2018 ram… Laramie, pearl paint, ho Cummins, aisin, air bags, 5th wheel, bed liner,…. Everything besides the dual alternators…. 73k. Down to 61k with 68k otd with taxes and licensing. How tf are prices this much higher? How are people affording these?
The US dollar had also lost 30% of its value since then aswell. I paid 40k otd for my power wagon in late 2017 as well. They are coming back to earth, but the inflation is here to stay, unfortunately
A lot of people don't afford them. Repos are at an all time high nowadays. I will keep my 2015 Chevy 2500 HD LTZ for many more years. Oh and mine is a gasser but it is paid off. Can't imagine a truck payment being up there with my mortgage payment.
@allenellzey5735 that's how I am with my truck, I want a dually diesel, but since I'm not trading in my old truck the payment would be in the low 1500s a month which is crazy.
These trucks are for contractors that make great money. Self employed guys making 250 on up. Not for a guy making 70-80 a year. Not being bad that’s just the truth.
Ram needs to keep the price the same. They need: Add back fender flares for Laramie and above Add power tilt telescoping steering wheel 8spd transmission More power for 6.4 Same cab as 1500 series Possibly others
Did you ever get an answer to whether or not the sport hood ate into the payload. I remember you wondering the same in an old vid but haven’t heard you mention it since. Thanks
64k base price is still way to high. These guys are out of touch with the current economy and customer finance, completely out of touch. When they build a half ton with mechanical windows and locks, manual transmission, rubber floor mats and a bench, vinyl seat, and get the base price under 20K, maybe we can talk.
Avoid them because they are cheap garbage (not price) now from a terrible company. The Cummins has been also cheapened out in the last 15 years with thinner castings and terrible reliability. Power and drivability is shit with a box truck transmission. I was a ram fan for a decade in the late 90’s early 2000’s. Engines haven’t been worth a hoot since then. Emissions issues, electrical issues, trans issues, frame issues… It’s not smart investing $80K+ on a truck that you will be lucky if the MFG exist in 7 years.
Wow! One needs to give up their first born to purchase these trucks. Way over priced for any truck. Plus the spring rating is way out of wake by normal standards. Ya can’t haul or pull what weight Chrysler says. To many cracked frames in the 2500-3500 series. Got pictures! Plus no bed liner only an option. At this cost that and bed lights should be included. Ram cheap holding out.
Hey guys my bad I said CP4 but RAM is still running a CP3 👍🏾
Dual alternators are 440 “amps”
I ordered a 24 2500 rebel in February and the MSRP was $90,000 by the time it was built a month later the sticker price was $81,000. I qualified for a 10% cashback incentive and I ended up paying about $73,000. 😊
Being happy about paying $73,000 for a truck is questionable.
I’m glad you know the H.O. with 4.10s gets larger rear brakes. Most don’t know that.
Did not know that
Yep, most are unaware.
A new transmission isn't a reason to wait for 2025, IMO. That said, discounts aren't enough for me to jump on a 2024. At the moment, there's really nothing worth my time with Ram.
I'm a huge Ram fanboy admittedly, but I never understood them moving prices way past GM and matching Ford, who all offered vastly updated truck. They kinda shot themselves in the foot because they outpriced themselves realistically out of the market. We truck guys take that purchase very seriously, so obviously buyers were gonna go cold on Ram, despite the 3500 H.O. being a true towing beast.
I'd be curious to see how this new pricing strategy pans out for them. I think the 24s will have sizeable incentives because just as Ram lowered pricing, the over truck market is cooling very fast. Trucks that were virtually bought at MSRP last year now have discounts.
If Ram can somehow do a generous update(yes, we all want new cabs, but Ram will likely retain it for the next few years) yet hold price increases nominally, they may get back deep into the swing of things.
The previous CEO of Stellantis North America was using the American market cars to pay for the euro market along with the merger fees. Thus, the crazy price raises out of nowhere. He got fired, and now the new guys are bringing the prices to a more "realistic" level
I noticed, same truck I priced out 2 months ago is now 15k cheaper
Y'all are forgetting they jacked the price way up over the chip shortage and now that it's over they're taking away a couple bucks and people think 75-90k for a new truck is worth it. What's going to happen when you spend all your homes equity and you only make 60k a year? The resale value on those isn't even close to what you paid. Maybe 40-50 k at best. So throw away roughly 30k? This is a sales pitch the word is that these companies are choking because they can't sell them!
If you make 60k a year these trucks are not for you. When you make 250-300 it isn’t such a big deal losing 30k over some time when you’re working the truck and making 30- or so a month clear. If you make 60k a year , you can afford A 10k truck. And pay cash for it. Sorry. That’s what it is.
I wish they had lower the price before I traded my 2022 Laramie I was having a lot of problems with it and parts was almost 2 years out but the one thing that send me to another manufactory was they told me that my bell housing was leaking oil and all they would do is to watch it. At little over 22,000 miles on it I didn't want them to tell me that they couldn't fix it because it was out of warranty and aside from the part that they was supposed to get, so I left, I loved all of my Ram trucks but it was time for me to move on and I'm happy, will I ever go back, well time will tell.
2022 is Covid supply chain junk era for auto/RV/trucks
I was going to trade in this year, but Ill be holding onto my Ram 2020 at least another 5years with this economy, interest rates and pricing.
Not an apples to apples comparison but I have had two Cummins my last was a 2019. Loved the truck, cashed out at the top of the Covid market, paid 49.5 traded it for 56 two years later it was used when I bought it. Just bought a 2024 Tradesman Crew 6.4 hemi with 10k dollars in options for 14k under sticker, 62k on the window OTD @ 48.9 plus tax and tags. Does the ford have more power, sure. If you’re keeping it forever is the aluminum nice, sure. But neither of those two things are 12-14k worth it nicer. Ram may not be the perfect truck but for a well optioned current model year heavy duty truck for under 50k I could care less.
Alot of the new cummins are really having an oil consumption problem. Just worked on a 23 today that was 6 its low on oil. We last checked the oil 2k miles ago.
We've been using Amsoil OE 10w30 ADN diesel oil and oil consumption has been cut down significantly
But been thinking of getting rid of the ram cummins and going with 2025 ford 6.7 HO powerstroke F450s
In my opinion the Laramie and up should come standard with things like bed lights, LED lighting and the full digital gauge cluster. That gauge cluster has been standard since 2012 and it's just dated.
I heard they are getting rid of the standard output cummins for 25. And maybe adding an 8 speed transmission.
2:00 you prefer the durability of a solid axle? What have you broke on an IFS ? We have 13 GM ifs trucks at the Hwy dept I’m the mechanic at, zero issues,and these trucks plow and get run hard every day, not a single issue,not even a bad ball joint,nothing in the 150-200k miles we put on them before they are rust out. Similar solid axle trucks included my personal f350 have the entire front end rebuilt,my 11 f350 has had all 4 ball joints and u joints replaced along w steering stabilizer and tie rods. So tired of ppl judging IFS by the morons that level them and put 14wides on them and break a cv joint pulling on blacktop, you caused your own problems, these ifs are plenty strong especially from 2011 to current.
My 2018 ram… Laramie, pearl paint, ho Cummins, aisin, air bags, 5th wheel, bed liner,…. Everything besides the dual alternators…. 73k. Down to 61k with 68k otd with taxes and licensing. How tf are prices this much higher? How are people affording these?
The US dollar had also lost 30% of its value since then aswell. I paid 40k otd for my power wagon in late 2017 as well. They are coming back to earth, but the inflation is here to stay, unfortunately
A lot of people don't afford them. Repos are at an all time high nowadays. I will keep my 2015 Chevy 2500 HD LTZ for many more years. Oh and mine is a gasser but it is paid off. Can't imagine a truck payment being up there with my mortgage payment.
@allenellzey5735 that's how I am with my truck, I want a dually diesel, but since I'm not trading in my old truck the payment would be in the low 1500s a month which is crazy.
These trucks are for contractors that make great money. Self employed guys making 250 on up. Not for a guy making 70-80 a year. Not being bad that’s just the truth.
I like that color and the Hydro blue 💙 my 1500 is .I want the 5500 next if it's not a CDL license to drive ?
Ram needs to keep the price the same. They need:
Add back fender flares for Laramie and above
Add power tilt telescoping steering wheel
8spd transmission
More power for 6.4
Same cab as 1500 series
Possibly others
No, but I have noticed that Ram has turned down the Cummins since the emissions debacle. Drove 2 - 2024’s and man they were gutless dogs!
Love the Ram, didn’t notice much about the pricing….
They keep building new trucks, meanwhile I’m still waiting for the DPF sensor that they never installed on my 2022 Ram Cummins! NOT COOL!!!
Delete all that shit and enjoy your truck.
Didn't the Laramie come standard with LED running lights but halogen main headlights?
Did you ever get an answer to whether or not the sport hood ate into the payload. I remember you wondering the same in an old vid but haven’t heard you mention it since. Thanks
Do a Laramie level 1 vs Laramie level 2!
The only differences are heated rear seats, and the million speaker sound system. That's not worth a video.
64k base price is still way to high. These guys are out of touch with the current economy and customer finance, completely out of touch. When they build a half ton with mechanical windows and locks, manual transmission, rubber floor mats and a bench, vinyl seat, and get the base price under 20K, maybe we can talk.
Interesting, the HO MaxTow doesn’t have an aluminum finned rear differential cover 🤔
They don’t use those rear differential covers anymore.
When they stepped up to the 12" rear in '19 it has bigger bearings, etc, and the finned cover went away.
I want a 2025 do you have any updates on them. Thanks
Thought it was a CP3. You stated CP4
CP-ISB21 is the actual pump in 2021+ trucks.
Yes it’s a CP3. He misspoke.
Let me know when they put the laramie out the door at 64k
soon as you drive it off the lot
it has deprecated 12,000 dollar
thats adding your warranty
cause this happened to me.
That's not what happens, that's a very old way of thinking.
$90k for a pickup? wtf
it's not 2005 any more boss
@sewerlord yes, sir, I'm aware. I guess $18 for a Big Mac is OK, too, then? Cause my damn wages ain't keeping up with all this.
I thought Ram had solid front axle??
They do have a solid front axle on all the 4 wheel drive HD trucks.
It's no different than the 22 Ram Laramie!! Maybe the price, 24's might be cheaper!!
I heard china is going to buy them
not enough......they still gonna be 10k off
their cheaper price was why they sold, giving away a level 1 pkg not gonna do it
If you can’t get at least $12k off MSRP you are paying to much !
Goodby Ram, Stlantis is outsourcing all engineering offshore.
Do you have a contact at Jerry Seiner?
He works with Frank at the Seiner GMC.
Wait, you have to pay for a silver truck… Geez. Avoid RAM from a dying company.
Avoid them? Why? Ram paint colors always cost extra with the exception of plain White and the bright Red.
Avoid them because they are cheap garbage (not price) now from a terrible company. The Cummins has been also cheapened out in the last 15 years with thinner castings and terrible reliability. Power and drivability is shit with a box truck transmission. I was a ram fan for a decade in the late 90’s early 2000’s. Engines haven’t been worth a hoot since then. Emissions issues, electrical issues, trans issues, frame issues… It’s not smart investing $80K+ on a truck that you will be lucky if the MFG exist in 7 years.
@@jarrsong🧢
@@jarrsongyeah no just no
@jarrsong I want what you're smoking 😂
Wow! One needs to give up their first born to purchase these trucks. Way over priced for any truck. Plus the spring rating is way out of wake by normal standards. Ya can’t haul or pull what weight Chrysler says. To many cracked frames in the 2500-3500 series. Got pictures! Plus no bed liner only an option. At this cost that and bed lights should be included. Ram cheap holding out.
Still over priced. Not just Ram, all of them.
still to hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
overpriced by $25k
If they build a quality product they will always sell trucks build a quality product
way to much still
65k no more
keep cranking up that price and go broke
They are not giving you anything
Nope! Still way over priced.
MADE IN MEXICO EXPLAINS EVERYTHING ! 🙄
Your videos used to be informative, but since you have become a salesman for Ram, it’s loke sitting in front of a used car salesman! Time to move on.