Number Theory: The Division Algorithm

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  • @independentvariablez7854
    @independentvariablez7854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    These proofs literally left me speechless.

    • @Dr.JudeAEMasonMD
      @Dr.JudeAEMasonMD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still taking my breath away…

  • @DM-su6li
    @DM-su6li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This was extemtly useful. Spent 10 minutes trying to understand my textbook explanation of this. I immediately understood what I was missing within 2 minutes of your video. Thank you

    • @MrRenanwill
      @MrRenanwill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both times are good. Hahahaha No one needs to understand a subjec int less than 10 minutes.

  • @egillandersson1780
    @egillandersson1780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I discovered your channel a few days ago. What a pity you haven't more subscribers !
    I want to learn number theory and go back to the fundamental WITH PROOFS seems an ideal way.
    Thanks!

  • @wiggles7976
    @wiggles7976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even though it's obvious and doesn't really require it, I want to fill in the gaps of the last step of the uniqueness proof. We have b(q-q')=r'-r, where 0

  • @drpeculiar1414
    @drpeculiar1414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    WHAT A TEACHER THIS IS? Beautiful

  • @MasterMindmars
    @MasterMindmars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good algorithm to divide.
    Can be called "Division by successive aproximation".
    It's only necesary to generate a seed big enough to reduce the amount of iterations.
    Good video

  • @arindamdas2703
    @arindamdas2703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What an amazing channel for learning mathematics. I wonder how it has so less subscribers. Simply mind blowing playlist on number theory. Keep growing mate !!

  • @ashlyushabenny9249
    @ashlyushabenny9249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Soo helpful!!I'm a Bsc mathematics final year student

    • @antoniojg-b8284
      @antoniojg-b8284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am 3rd year applied mathematics student. I just want to comment my status

    • @AMHcrazy
      @AMHcrazy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antoniojg-b8284 what are you studying specifically as an applied math student. I only ask because I will soon be starting this degree as a freshmen in college :D

    • @teachforjoyresearchphysics
      @teachforjoyresearchphysics 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I comment coz u guys r funny I m phd student btw 🤣

    • @jayloncarter7030
      @jayloncarter7030 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you finish your degree?

  • @manuelfalzoialcantara92
    @manuelfalzoialcantara92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best of the best description of proof of Euclidean Division, I like more than VedTutor

  • @turvivajpayee8947
    @turvivajpayee8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anytime I am stuck in any proof
    You come as a saviour
    Thank you so much Sir 🙏

  • @georgesadler7830
    @georgesadler7830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Professor Penn ,thank you for an awesome lecture on The Division Algorithm.

  • @bingqingwang850
    @bingqingwang850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel really save my life. When my professor taught this session, he made it really difficult to understand. Thanks a lot !!!

  • @thegreatkris24
    @thegreatkris24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know that this means? Its the first sentence of this cryptography class and I think it means I should drop it: "We say that a nonzero b divides > a if a = mb for some > m, where > a,b, and > m are integers. That is, b divides > a if there is no remainder on division. The notation > b|a is commonly used to mean b divides > a. Also if > b|a , we say that b is a divisor of > a. The positive divisors of 24 are 1,2,3,4,6,8,12 and 24."

  • @krishshah3974
    @krishshah3974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so nice to see this channel growing!

  • @thekinghass
    @thekinghass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please countinue this amazing videos

  • @YuvrajSingh-hp7ig
    @YuvrajSingh-hp7ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a great proof. The way you explain things using examples is a lot clear than those literal "bookish" proofs. Thanks a lot. Keeping making things like these :)

  • @brightlin777
    @brightlin777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice one (I'm aware that the length of the videos doesn't allow intuition, but for some, the steps may seem like magic).
    For the intuition about the set 'S', we can think about all 'b'-steps to the left and right (at the left is how many 'b' can we fit in 'a'). We don't allow it to go less than zero. It becomes apparent that S includes 'a' itself. If 'a' is negative, we simply extend the logic, and go 'b'-steps to the right until we reach something greater than zero, then start adding to the set 'S'.
    We then want to find 'r'. Of course it's the minimum of 'S', otherwise, we can subtract out another 'b'.
    For the final part, as we know 'r' and 'r'' are between 0 and 'b', then their difference must be less than 'b'. Now it's obvious that there is only one 'q' to reach between 0 and 'b', as each leap is at least 'b'-length, so anything else would escape.

  • @legendsplayground7017
    @legendsplayground7017 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great proof, love your content, I can barely understand while looking at my lecture note, now I feel better when someone explains, keep up the good work, Jesus bless.

  • @baburayhanshaik5121
    @baburayhanshaik5121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    thank you sir, love from india

  • @valeriereid2337
    @valeriereid2337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent explanation. This most certainly helps. Thank you.

  • @bavanthajayaruwan92
    @bavanthajayaruwan92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    your teaching method are perfect

  • @myrus5722
    @myrus5722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh boy time to binge number theory! I always feel so stupid that I can’t solve the number theory questions on this channel and everyone in the comments are talking about how trivial they are :/
    Hopefully this series helps, it’s the only one I can find in number theory on TH-cam, so thank you for making it, Michael Penn!

    • @jessicacostadasilva1933
      @jessicacostadasilva1933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same!! you probably got better (and I really hope so). I have a test on Thursday and I'm freaking out lol
      plus: English is not my native language, so it's even harder.

  • @arkitson
    @arkitson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you from New Zealand. :)

  • @ZHUYUFAN
    @ZHUYUFAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you from Singapore!

  • @Marythegamers
    @Marythegamers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My God :)))
    I'm not an English speaker and I'm not a high level. But think about it man! How you teach and explain that even I could understand it well 🥺 thank youuuuuu

  • @riyasingh6273
    @riyasingh6273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My godd....just speechless..this proof is just so easy to understand....I wish the same I had in the book. 😔...the way it is given in the book is literally going above my head😂

  • @fedepan947
    @fedepan947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you from Italy

    • @IPear
      @IPear 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      fra ciao mi sai spiegare una cosa?

    • @fedepan947
      @fedepan947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IPear Ciao, se posso volentieri.

    • @IPear
      @IPear 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fedepan947 Ti ringrazio, ho risolto.

  • @ebok5705
    @ebok5705 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really prefer chalks over blackboards, the teachings are so smooth thanks!

  • @gouravtada
    @gouravtada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks sir!
    ❤️ From India.

  • @kaiosilva5384
    @kaiosilva5384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Michael I liked your video about euclidean algorithm but I know an another form to proof, suppose that q e q' are consecutive integers, then exist a rational between them, then we have. q0

  • @Munna-lt7hx
    @Munna-lt7hx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being a student , i am saying you are the best teacher sir . You made it soo easy for me to understand . Just awesome 🔥 .

  • @avinashkokare27
    @avinashkokare27 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Sir! You made this proof undarstandable

  • @Jerrremy
    @Jerrremy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir are incredible.

  • @hasansalah7800
    @hasansalah7800 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an amazing video! Thank you.

  • @vinagalo9055
    @vinagalo9055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you show another example division algorithm with proof?

  • @navreetkaur3719
    @navreetkaur3719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U r amazing teacher love from india👍❤️

  • @aishbgm5743
    @aishbgm5743 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    a perfect pure mathematician.

  • @PunmasterSTP
    @PunmasterSTP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again for another wonderful video! Division? More like di-vision, because now I can see things clearly!

  • @사기꾼진우야내가죽여
    @사기꾼진우야내가죽여 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of existence proofs in number theory depends on well ordering principle.

  • @dorukhan8707
    @dorukhan8707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What does _unique_ mean in the definition and in general?

  • @ЕвгенияЛысенко-у4н
    @ЕвгенияЛысенко-у4н หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your videos! 😍
    But I got lost at the contradiction on 8:21 .. Could someone please help me understand why did he do it and where did he take r >= b from?

    • @Zeeshanhassan884
      @Zeeshanhassan884 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because it is a contradiction r can't be greater are equal to b r is greater or equal to zero but less than b

  • @josephquinto5812
    @josephquinto5812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What are the common prerequisite courses for this class?

    • @Re-lx1md
      @Re-lx1md 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A normal college math curriculum up through Linear Algebra or Differential Equations.

  • @euler7586
    @euler7586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video

  • @Anuj_906
    @Anuj_906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You So Much Sir

  • @micmaci9343
    @micmaci9343 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why we know that r-b is the element of the S - after as we subtract b of both sides of equation ?

  • @AjitKumar-fh5rf
    @AjitKumar-fh5rf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you sir you are great 👍

  • @ark1tech
    @ark1tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what would happen if b < a?

  • @eagl-3
    @eagl-3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this playlist (113 videos in total) in order??

  • @onlinetution540
    @onlinetution540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can any1 help me..
    Why we have to consider two cases.... 1) b>= 0 2) b

  • @rashedalam3450
    @rashedalam3450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where are you?

  • @sampowa2943
    @sampowa2943 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how is the RHS been established can you clarify?

  • @ravindulasantha8986
    @ravindulasantha8986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.... from Sri Lanka

  • @adityabajpayee7
    @adityabajpayee7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Sir ,. Please upload videos on Combinatorics also plzzz

  • @mariapiaacerra2574
    @mariapiaacerra2574 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what book do you think is perfect for learning number theory for the math olympics, because I was thinking about hardy, but this book has no exercises, so for me who am a neophyte I think it should be accompanied by an exercise book, or at least replaced with a book of theory and exercises, so what do you recommend?

    • @mariapiaacerra2574
      @mariapiaacerra2574 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      NUMBER THEORY: CONCEPTS AND PROBLEMS by tutu, what do you think about this , is it too complex? or the exercises are not for beginners?

  • @AFCRADDENNYLSURALTA
    @AFCRADDENNYLSURALTA หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much TT

  • @arjyasresthaaich7061
    @arjyasresthaaich7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing

  • @lieannricafranca7943
    @lieannricafranca7943 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great help for me

  • @naveengantyala940
    @naveengantyala940 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u from India...

  • @anuragbose2622
    @anuragbose2622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you from india

  • @tishadhande1105
    @tishadhande1105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can we say that r-b

    • @JohnSmith-rz7fh
      @JohnSmith-rz7fh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m also confused regarding this, it seemed like a jump in logic
      Edit: Never mind, it was initially stipulated that b is greater than 0

  • @IPear
    @IPear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What would've happened if r >= r' instead of vice versa (10:37)?
    Can the uniqueness proof be applied also to the generalization of b € Z-{0} instead of b>=0?
    Thank you

    • @wiggles7976
      @wiggles7976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If we considered the other case that r >= r', you'd just rearrange the equation bq+r=bq'+r' to get r-r'=b(q'-q) and the same logic would apply. WLOG" just means that the other cases have the exact same steps and logic but with symbols swapped, and that we don't want to bother writing out something that's essentially identical.

    • @salad7389
      @salad7389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wiggles7976 why are we allowed to assume r'>=r in the firstplace

    • @wiggles7976
      @wiggles7976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@salad7389 Since this is from a while ago I forget the details, but in logic, you can assume anything you want at any time. However, whatever consequences you get from an assumption are always chained to that assumption (at first), meaning you need to remember that they were a result of that assumption.
      If you want to forget about the WLOG business, you can do each case separately. You can first assume r'>=r and work out the consequence, and then assume r>=r' and work out the other consequence, and since both of these are the only possible options, then if their consequences are the same then their consequence has escaped the chains of the assumptions and is true regardless of the assumption.
      I hope my explanation provides some clarity. You can assume whatever you want at any time basically. We then used this logic theorem:
      P->Q. R->Q. P or R. Therefore Q.

    • @salad7389
      @salad7389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wiggles7976 that makes sense! Thanks for replying to my 5 month late question lol

  • @sakshinaikgaonkar5566
    @sakshinaikgaonkar5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir , the only multiple between 0 and b is 0.How?

  • @haiderakbar4482
    @haiderakbar4482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do we have to prove the uniqueness of r ? Didn't we assume that r is the min(S) which makes it unique?

    • @PureExile
      @PureExile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He _defines_ r to be min(S) and then shows that _this particular_ r satisfies a=bq+r (such an integer q must exist by the definition of S) and 0≤r

  • @pratoshmishra1430
    @pratoshmishra1430 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mind blowing.

  • @nickyork8901
    @nickyork8901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, but at 6:07 I did not understand how you went from b is greater than zero to 'it is bigger than or equal to one'. By 'it' are you referring to b here or not?

    • @souverain1er
      @souverain1er 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      b is an integer greater than zero. That means it is either 1 or greater than 1.

    • @nickyork8901
      @nickyork8901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@souverain1er Thanks, forgot we were dealing with integers, oops.

  • @1minute671
    @1minute671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @arjyasresthaaich7061
    @arjyasresthaaich7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wanna watch more

  • @Avighna
    @Avighna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel stupid. Hardly understood anything. I'm a regular viewer, so I'm sure the explanation was great, but it didn't work for me.

  • @shivamdeokar9890
    @shivamdeokar9890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks man 😁

  • @nishithbaravkar7549
    @nishithbaravkar7549 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot from india

  • @arjyasresthaaich7061
    @arjyasresthaaich7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good

  • @arjyasresthaaich7061
    @arjyasresthaaich7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @francescopiazza4882
    @francescopiazza4882 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo!

  • @rafaelagustin375
    @rafaelagustin375 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn man what did the board do to you why you hitting it so hard

  • @arjyasresthaaich7061
    @arjyasresthaaich7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awsome

  • @Amantheparadise
    @Amantheparadise 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why you ppl forget to write a>b

  • @NilodeRoock
    @NilodeRoock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes I adjust the speed to 1.5 on certain channels, I find it disrespectful, and I am ashamed, even though they don't know. - But with you, Michael, I have to adjust it to 0.75. At that speed you sound more human, I suppose. Sorry. Your math is excellent. ;-)

  • @محمودابوعلي-ش8س
    @محمودابوعلي-ش8س 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are great❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @sakshinaikgaonkar5566
    @sakshinaikgaonkar5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir in 12:49, why LHS=RHS=0?

    • @ACh389
      @ACh389 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Note that r' - r is a non-negative integer which is a multiple of b. Also note that since r is non-negative r' - r is a non-negative integer which is strictly less than b and hence r' - r is a non-negative integer less than or equal to b - 1. Since the only divisor of b between 0 and b - 1 is 0 itself the desired result follows.
      Hope it helps!

  • @propagandaBreaker
    @propagandaBreaker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not that good actually. The example are contrived and do not explore the realm of possibilities: a being negative, b being larger than a for instance. And because the result is proven over Z this could have been nice. The problem is that the intuition is not that of a problem: you want to measure a with b but the beauty reside in the fact that it is possible even with the case above.

  • @kye5171
    @kye5171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why a-bx? My textbook says a+bx

    • @kaiosilva5384
      @kaiosilva5384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It isn't correct the rest is the result of a-bx for example 41/5 we have 40-5×8 = 1

  • @humaidahmedabuzinjal6257
    @humaidahmedabuzinjal6257 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still confused 😭

  • @stenarsk6877
    @stenarsk6877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:04 wait what? How?

    • @stenarsk6877
      @stenarsk6877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh nvm. I forgot that b∈ℤ

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    @غفران-س6ه ปีที่แล้ว

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    @bogiebambam9595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️

  • @ricardojaramillo9348
    @ricardojaramillo9348 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is it important to show there is a minimum element?

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    @lieannricafranca7943 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @samparoy2411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      @sowmiyagowri6065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can clearly understandable thank you sir.

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    @Thee-Shougon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @christophersedlak1147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks