Tektronix 2 Series Oscilloscope Pattern Generator

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  • Installing and using the latest firmware on the Tektronxi 2 series to test out the pattern generator and analog channel serial decoding.
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  • @EEVblog2
    @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว +5

    UPDATE: Tektronix were able to reproduce the bit rate limitation issue and are working on it.
    UPDATE2: They have identified the issue "DPG output does not track the user programmed bitrate. This is causing the decode to stop working. Fixing this issue in our next release."

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That text layout is awful. Th R&S can transition to a vertical display to maximise the amount of visible data. And what's with the green marks on the left of each character? Unless there are errors, the display should maximise the visibility of the data. I'd expect this sort of thing from cheapo Chinese scopes, not Tek.

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it's not implemented well at all.

    • @mishakrivoruchko1397
      @mishakrivoruchko1397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can make text bigger/smaller by clicking on big and small wave buttons on the bus tab when it is extended on the bottom of the screen.

  • @yoksel99
    @yoksel99 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah, feels like a USB scope with PC user interface. Full of features but painfully inconvenient to use... Those flat under-plastic-surface buttons also look like a cheap pocket calculator from mid-90s.

  • @PollokPoochesDogWalking
    @PollokPoochesDogWalking ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My uncle worked in the Tectonics Guernsey workshop for most of his life. I loved chatting electronics with him when I was doing my degree. His knowledge was literally from the ground up and deeper than the ocean.

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting scope... so, we reached that dystopian future where you have to buy licences to use the basic functionality of your test gear, huh? What has the world come to?

  • @chris-tal
    @chris-tal ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very odd to see the internal drive of the scope lettered C: listing a directory called lost+found. I guess it's easier to represent drive lettering in a widespread DOS/Windows way while having some sort of unix/linux OS in the background with an ext filesystem I guess. :)

  • @KJBtheMosFett
    @KJBtheMosFett ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just hope one day I can afford a new Tektronix scope.

  • @QsTechService1
    @QsTechService1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty awesome scope.. Looks like a really nice display ... Always like watching your scope videos Dave

  • @SystemX1983
    @SystemX1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be easy to write some scripts that create the needed csv files from your desired input...
    Just spitting out some ones and zeroes into some text file 😉

  • @christopherjackson2157
    @christopherjackson2157 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The glare on that screen really is awful lol

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have many other scopes like this, yeah it's annoying.

    • @kruppin
      @kruppin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The glare is worse on camera than irl I would think. I like pc monitors that are glossy instead of matte for example since you perceive the colors as more vivid and blacks as darker. I dont have any problems with it, but a pc monitor, like this "tablet" scope will mostly be postitioned at correct angle to not get glare, a normal bench scope on the other hand could be in a worse viewing angle so there being a matte screen is more important. And the glass screen on this scope is hard to avoid since it's portable and you dont want a plastic screen that willl scratch in no time...

    • @christopherjackson2157
      @christopherjackson2157 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kruppin definitely. Its a shame tho for the engineers who designed the scope that their work ends up looking like this in the reviews. I'm sure its fine in person

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christopherjackson2157 Similar in person

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

      R&S is the same, but easily fixed with an ant-glare screen protector

  • @6Diego1Diego9
    @6Diego1Diego9 ปีที่แล้ว

    how much does this cost?

  • @WizardTim
    @WizardTim ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently saw Applied Science Ben using the 2 series AFG and was very impressed by the software, UI and inbuilt measurement capabilities, only then did I truly understand it's not just an entry level portable scope and thus the price point Tektronix set for it.

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the sticker price on it? Please Sir!

    • @WizardTim
      @WizardTim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jstro-hobbytech AU$3,000 for the 2 channel 70 MHz entry level one, which is already more expensive than other brands entry scopes, but up to AU$19,000 with all the channels, gens and options which is closer to what Ben was using.

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WizardTim haha wow. I'll pass (as if I'd have a choice). Aha

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jstro-hobbytech Under US$2k for the entry level model, but the prices rises quickly with the options.

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I've done a whole video on why Tek scopes are expensive. th-cam.com/video/3t9G80wk0pk/w-d-xo.html

  • @tablatronix
    @tablatronix ปีที่แล้ว

    hah I was just pricing this yesterday, and today I see it on 2 videos!

  • @kailuagarage
    @kailuagarage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is common for RS232 to sample at 8x or 16x the baud rate to detect the beginning of the start bit, and then to sample at the center of each bit after that. Maybe that sample rate is a limitation?

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The analog input software usart lets you go up to 15Mbps so oyu would think it can decode that?

    • @kailuagarage
      @kailuagarage ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EEVblog2 maybe for sync protocols like SPI that is true? RS-232 is async, so you typically need to over sample the input data to correctly detect the start of a word (start bit, data bits, optional parity bits and one or more stop bits). But, they could be doing it a different way ...

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, if I owned that scope it would be my muse. I still love my tds2002c

  • @mrwidget42
    @mrwidget42 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sure wish I could simply use my Spice file descriptors for the waveforms.

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems like every brand does that with the font size Dave. Great video sir

  • @shazam6274
    @shazam6274 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much is this bargain beauty again?

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว

      Starts from US$2k but goes up rapidly depending on options. It's Tektronix.

    • @shazam6274
      @shazam6274 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EEVblog2 Yeah, thanks, but how much is the one you have?

    • @shazam6274
      @shazam6274 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EEVblog2 I'm guessing closer to $25k or more.

  • @kruppin
    @kruppin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try specify the buad in 15000 kbits on both instead. It seems the buad on either the pg or decoder is wierd which is why it cant decode it. Edit: And i'm sorry Dave, but it is always amusing how all UIs are badly designed when you are doing stuff. Sure, I can agree it's not the best, but also it showed the file in the drop down after you loaded it from the usb so it was clear enough it was loaded. :D And I'm just having some fun, it's great you point out these things. :)

    • @EEVblog2
      @EEVblog2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tried it, it converts 10000kbps to 10Mbps and same problem.

    • @kruppin
      @kruppin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EEVblog2 Ah, okey. If you specify 12345kbits instead then? Or will it not accept any arbitrary buad rate? Im guessing the pg will accept anything, and the decoder is stupid and only accepts "normal" serial buads.