Excellent demo. I was wondering if I should use D9 but this sounds great. I think I’d struggle with D9 so hearing what you have done with open D has helped me decide I’ll stick to open D. The techniques in this video are golden. I will refer to this tutorial over again now I have put multibenders on my lap steel
Troy, Man, there’s so much great and useful stuff here. Thank you for doing this. It’d be great to meet ya & swap lever lapsteel ideas in person sometime! Hands down best “getting started” “lever Steel” video out there. Would love to see more😀
Thanks, Troy, for a great posting. Loads of great, usable information. I have these palm pedals on my dobro and am just getting started with them. I started of in standard dobro tuning and used the return springs to tune down to the changes, but open d is definitely the way to go. By the way, if you include the 3rd string (without the bender) and used the 2nd string bender you get the full minor triad 5, R, 3, or you can go strings 4.3.2 and bend up from flat7 to root of the minor on string 2. A nice, simple arpeggio. Thanks again. This video really helped me think things through.
@@justjake3977 My lappy with benders was the reason I'm in a band. We just shot our second video. My bending is featured heavily in the songs. So....GOOD!
so there is actually 3 chords you can get on 1 fret lol i thought 2 chords on the 1 fret in the key of G was cool (Minor or major chords depending on which strings you choose)....oh i cant wait to get these benders and install them and the learn off you Troy you teach so well and easy to understand...sounds awesome i cant wait!
Martin Heath I bought a dimavery lap steel which in the U.K. cost £115 - it’s way better than my Quincy which the same as Harley Benton as it has an alloy nut, shielded pickup rout and decent pickup. It seems to be the same as a Gretsch electromatic lap steel minus the Gretsch single coil lap steel pickup and hand rest. I’ve put a dusenberg multibender on it and in total it still cost less than the Gretsch !
@@vinnieirvine1365 thinking of doing something similar myself, glad to hear it works. Any issues with the nut and tuning stability. Think the expensive duesenberg uses a roller nut
David Hawkins None whatsoever- the alloy nut works well. A roller nut seems a great idea. But when setting up the bender ( there’s a lot of tweaking to get the pitch correct on depressing the lever) and it returns to pitch fine and as long as the strings have stretched and settled I’ve had no issues at all.
Hi Troy - you mention running your signal through a Sarno Black Box, volume pedal, etc. What was the signal chain for this video, please? This video was very helpful and informative - thank you!
Nice video. I have been playing pedal steel for years, but this interests me for use for gigs that I don't want the "big rig" (I also play guitar). How about some in-depth examples of just playing using both of the benders? Many thanks and keep up the good work!!
2nd string bender is up two steps, right? so on top three strings you got: b-d-g -> b-e(^2)-g correct? but that's I to the vi, not the IV. Or am I missing something?
Viktor Kaganovich no you’re exactly right, you should really engage both benders to go from 1 to 4. But the 4 and 6 chords are very similar, a 4 chord is 4,6,8 (8 same as 1, so 4,6,1..). where a 6 chord is 6,8,10..(6,1,3). If you lean into one lever and then the other you can get many cool licks over that change, and you can similarly release them the same way.
How do I find the charts that go with this lesson? Do I need to purchase the lesson? happy to do that, but unclear how to do that.... thanks in advance
I think I mention it in the video. It's a Kemper with a Michael Britt profile of a '67 Fender Deluxe Reverb. Tone settings are pretty much all at 12 o'clock.
Thanks! I used to think the same thing. I've been at lap style slide now since about 2007. It's a fun quest to try to get everything better in tune, better in time, etc. I still listen back and hear lots of errors and things I wish I could do better, but I just gotta keep inching my way to what I wish it would sound, and try to be happy with where I'm at too.
@@LessonsWithTroy Hi Troy, that's interesting to know. I have been playing guitar for decades now, being interested mainly in Rock, Blues and Jazz and getting sort of "decent" at it. But over the years I've often felt increasingly attracted by the music of Dobro, slide and steel guitar players, "historic" and contemporary alike. Unfortunately, however, I've always felt so intimidated, when I think of actually making a try and finally going for it myself. People like you tend to make me want to give it a chance - even if it's the results of 12 years of dedicated study that we hear in your playing...
Thats the one I am using for my Beard Dobro and with a touch of delay. Have my eyes set on a Duesenberg Fairtale for my first lap steel......saving up my dimes for one LOL. thanks for the reply Troy.!
Since pedal steel guitars use an E tuning, why do you use a D tuning? I have this same question for bluegrass players on Dobro guitars? Why? "Inquisitive minds want to know".
Oh yeah, my wife would kill be if I spent $2,500 on a Duesenberg lap steel. I've seen some for $699 on Ebay that have the two benders like the Duesenberg. Not sure of the sound quality though...
Hi Troy. First, thank you so much for posting! I have been a guitar player for over 50 years but as a result of severe nerve damage from a motorcycle crash in 2016, I can't fret with my left hand. I'm thinking about lap steel as an option to traditional guitar. I don't have the $$ for a Dusenberg like yours. Is there another option for an instrument that offers the same features for under $1,000?
If you're just wanting a Lap Steel, there's a sorts of ones out there for pretty cheap. Old Supro's are really cool! Also, you can buy the Benders from Duesenberg separately and put them on a cheaper lap steel.
Each open tuning offers various benefits and adding the string benders opens them up even more. Palm levers on a C6 as just as much versatility too :) You asl can retune to a lot of tunings from a C6 set, so keep that in mind too!
the multibender for elect guitar has adj. saddles while the multibender for lap steel has straight saddle. wat-a-crok! doesn't duesenberg know that lap steels need compensated bridge also? i recommend you replace yer multibender with the adj saddle part, or buy the entire multibender part aftermarket.
I don't know whether the bender makes any difference but I've had a LOT of lap steels - Rickenbacher, Fender, Supro, Cole Clarke, a handbuilt one - and not one of them has had a compensated bridge.
Lap steels do NOT use or need a compensated bridge. You tune your steel to whatever chord you're using (e.g., open D would be D-A-D-F#-A-D). You tune that open chord to be perfectly in tune. Look at a pedal steel -- same thing. The string all 'break' over a roller bridge, which is straight across.
@@lapdawg60 it is 'more' in tune with compensated bridge. i notice a huge difference in sharpness (accuracy) of chords. no diff in single string at all, with compensation one can play 3 strings and achieve a believable musical chord-not so with straight bridge. most players are out of tune to my ear, to each his own i guess. put it on a tc clip on tuner which is accurate to 1/20 cent and see it is out of tune if you think it is in tune. nothing is perfect but i say straight bridge is junk. i deserve better closer to 'in tune' than a straight bridge. use vibrato to disguise the fact that it is out of tune, that is what the deniers do...
For that price you might as well get a single neck pedal steel and be able to do it all instead of pretending you're playing a pedal steel. Just sayin'
To each their own. I hear what you're sayin', but it's nice not having to lug around a pedal steel to gigs. This thing has it's own thing going on too.
My god, what a beautiful sounding instrument! Wish I would’ve wanted to get into this sooner
You have the best dobro and slide tutorials. I can't wait to buy some full lessons from you after the plague when my income comes back.
Your sound is fantastic. Excellent.
Excellent demo. I was wondering if I should use D9 but this sounds great. I think I’d struggle with D9 so hearing what you have done with open D has helped me decide I’ll stick to open D.
The techniques in this video are golden. I will refer to this tutorial over again now I have put multibenders on my lap steel
That's Some Find Looking and Sounding Lap Steel you have Great Job Troy Thanks
Troy,
Man, there’s so much great and useful stuff here. Thank you for doing this. It’d be great to meet ya & swap lever lapsteel ideas in person sometime! Hands down best “getting started” “lever Steel” video out there. Would love to see more😀
So wish I had a duesenberg fairutale lapsteel guitar. I am loving your video.
What a GREAT introduction (and seduction) into the Multi-Bender lap steel...Makes a LOT of sense. Many thanks for stoking my lapsteel fire.
Thank you, this is what makes TH-cam great!
Super helpful, on so many levels. Thanks for making this!
So beautiful
Great. Nice sound ✌👍
Great tutorial! I need one of these beasts!
Thanks, Troy, for a great posting. Loads of great, usable information. I have these palm pedals on my dobro and am just getting started with them. I started of in standard dobro tuning and used the return springs to tune down to the changes, but open d is definitely the way to go. By the way, if you include the 3rd string (without the bender) and used the 2nd string bender you get the full minor triad 5, R, 3, or you can go strings 4.3.2 and bend up from flat7 to root of the minor on string 2. A nice, simple arpeggio. Thanks again. This video really helped me think things through.
Excellent video!!
This one video has resulted in me purchasing a Duesenberg multibender and Airline lap to put it on...I"M EXCITED!
How's it going?
@@justjake3977 My lappy with benders was the reason I'm in a band. We just shot our second video. My bending is featured heavily in the songs. So....GOOD!
@@billyhellmaker link to video?
@@justjake3977 th-cam.com/video/a021l-NJA9Y/w-d-xo.html
@@justjake3977 th-cam.com/video/a021l-NJA9Y/w-d-xo.html
so there is actually 3 chords you can get on 1 fret lol i thought 2 chords on the 1 fret in the key of G was cool (Minor or major chords depending on which strings you choose)....oh i cant wait to get these benders and install them and the learn off you Troy you teach so well and easy to understand...sounds awesome i cant wait!
One of the sweetest most plaintive and beautiful sounds ever devised by man. You play great, just gorgeous, wish I could afford to buy one!
Thanks Martin! Glad ya dig it.
Martin Heath
I bought a dimavery lap steel which in the U.K. cost £115 - it’s way better than my Quincy which the same as Harley Benton as it has an alloy nut, shielded pickup rout and decent pickup. It seems to be the same as a Gretsch electromatic lap steel minus the Gretsch single coil lap steel pickup and hand rest.
I’ve put a dusenberg multibender on it and in total it still cost less than the Gretsch !
@@vinnieirvine1365 thinking of doing something similar myself, glad to hear it works. Any issues with the nut and tuning stability. Think the expensive duesenberg uses a roller nut
David Hawkins
None whatsoever- the alloy nut works well. A roller nut seems a great idea. But when setting up the bender ( there’s a lot of tweaking to get the pitch correct on depressing the lever) and it returns to pitch fine and as long as the strings have stretched and settled I’ve had no issues at all.
@@vinnieirvine1365 that's great, thanks for responding, you've probably saved me a few quid
I wish you didn't have all of these bender lessons - I should focus on dobro but you're making me want a lap steel so bad.
THANKS SO MUCH!
Troy's lessons are great. Subscribing to his website lwtstreaming.com was the best investment I've ever made.
What a Dusey!!! ;)
sweet brother, fookin brilliantly taught
Hi Troy - you mention running your signal through a Sarno Black Box, volume pedal, etc. What was the signal chain for this video, please? This video was very helpful and informative - thank you!
Great vid-very informative! what is the slide you use?
I use a fender double humbucker pickup and phase between single and double. I also use a Moore ge 100
Excellent explanation and demonstration. Those pickups sure sound good, too. Are you playing through a PSG amp?
I'm playing through a Kemper Amp Profiler
Have you tried a Goodrich active volume pedal? That made a big difference in tone over my passive Goodrich. Thanks for the great videos.
Have you ever used the bender with GBDGBD tubing? Do you have by chance a video about that? Thank you again, Troy
Gostaria de saber aonde encontrar uma guitarra igual a essa aqui no Brasil pois quero aprender a tocar alô ouvindo os seus vídeos.
Very nice Troy. What gage and type of strings should i use with the open D tuning?
muito bom , parabéns
Nice video. I have been playing pedal steel for years, but this interests me for use for gigs that I don't want the "big rig" (I also play guitar). How about some in-depth examples of just playing using both of the benders? Many thanks and keep up the good work!!
search Luke Cyrus Goetz. You will not be disappointed.
which sequence of this tuning. Or what is this tuning?
2nd string bender is up two steps, right? so on top three strings you got: b-d-g -> b-e(^2)-g
correct? but that's I to the vi, not the IV. Or am I missing something?
Viktor Kaganovich no you’re exactly right, you should really engage both benders to go from 1 to 4. But the 4 and 6 chords are very similar, a 4 chord is 4,6,8 (8 same as 1, so 4,6,1..). where a 6 chord is 6,8,10..(6,1,3). If you lean into one lever and then the other you can get many cool licks over that change, and you can similarly release them the same way.
How do I find the charts that go with this lesson? Do I need to purchase the lesson? happy to do that, but unclear how to do that.... thanks in advance
The camera angles don't show tuning... But still some great info.
Getting my Duesenberg in a few days. Very helpful stuff! Where are your charts?
www.LWTstreaming.com
Are their any other tunings for the Duesenberg?
Hi. I just bought a Fairytale. You prefer the bridge pick up. What are your guitar and amp tone settings?
I think I mention it in the video. It's a Kemper with a Michael Britt profile of a '67 Fender Deluxe Reverb. Tone settings are pretty much all at 12 o'clock.
By any chance is there an aftermarket bridge similar to the Duesenberg that you can install to any lap steel?
You can buy the bridge by itself
Cool stuff! I wonder how long it generally takes to not have to think so hard any more and to be able to play just naturally...
Thanks! I used to think the same thing. I've been at lap style slide now since about 2007. It's a fun quest to try to get everything better in tune, better in time, etc. I still listen back and hear lots of errors and things I wish I could do better, but I just gotta keep inching my way to what I wish it would sound, and try to be happy with where I'm at too.
@@LessonsWithTroy Hi Troy, that's interesting to know. I have been playing guitar for decades now, being interested mainly in Rock, Blues and Jazz and getting sort of "decent" at it. But over the years I've often felt increasingly attracted by the music of Dobro, slide and steel guitar players, "historic" and contemporary alike. Unfortunately, however, I've always felt so intimidated, when I think of actually making a try and finally going for it myself. People like you tend to make me want to give it a chance - even if it's the results of 12 years of dedicated study that we hear in your playing...
awesome. are you pedal steel player as well?
Why don't any of the players use a round tone bar as used on the pedal steel?
That box cost me 90 bucks but it replaced at least 500 dollars worth of pedals.
The Duesenberg can lower as well right? How often is that used?
Somebody buy me one of those!!
Hi troy my name is Darrell I was wondering how do u intonate duesenberg multibender
Which profile are you using with your Kemper???
I really like Michael Britt's 67 Luxe Verb 1S
Thats the one I am using for my Beard Dobro and with a touch of delay. Have my eyes set on a Duesenberg Fairtale for my first lap steel......saving up my dimes for one LOL. thanks for the reply Troy.!
I can’t find the Duesenberg for sale anywhere!!
Check out Reverb and also Unicorn Music
@@LessonsWithTroy The one's on reverb have apparently already been sold, but I'll check out Unicorn Music. Thanks!
How do you palm block?
I pick block if I'm using the benders. If not, I just move my hand up to palm block.
I see fingerpicks or whatever you call them. Do steel players play with fingers only? Thanks
Its amazing how many comments show how poor of a listening job people do. Pay attention!!!
Since pedal steel guitars use an E tuning, why do you use a D tuning? I have this same question for bluegrass players on Dobro guitars? Why? "Inquisitive minds want to know".
The Dussenberger seems amazing but cost prohibitive :-(
The multibender is available as a replacement for a 6-screw trem on a strat ;)
@@arvedbohn6133 Cool! Ideally I would like it on my Chandler 6 string Lap Steel if the spacing worked.
Oh yeah, my wife would kill be if I spent $2,500 on a Duesenberg lap steel. I've seen some for $699 on Ebay that have the two benders like the Duesenberg. Not sure of the sound quality though...
You can find pedal steels for what these dusenbergs cost
Hi Troy. First, thank you so much for posting! I have been a guitar player for over 50 years but as a result of severe nerve damage from a motorcycle crash in 2016, I can't fret with my left hand. I'm thinking about lap steel as an option to traditional guitar. I don't have the $$ for a Dusenberg like yours. Is there another option for an instrument that offers the same features for under $1,000?
If you're just wanting a Lap Steel, there's a sorts of ones out there for pretty cheap. Old Supro's are really cool! Also, you can buy the Benders from Duesenberg separately and put them on a cheaper lap steel.
I have a two lever Bigsby palmbender on a modded Fender 51, works for me when I’m not playing a Fender 400
Get a pedal steel guitar, you could probably find decent ones around $1000 if you do your research, and has much more versatility
I recently bought a 2nd hand Gretsch 5700 (€ 230) and a Duesenberg Multibender (€ 270) . Easy to install, very happy with it! 😊
i want a floyd rose for lapsteel
Hi, they are Duesenberg Benders. Each bender bends a string a certain amount.
Your box acts as a buffer.
yo rosaly soy mexicana y me gusta mucho y también quiero aprender atocar ese aparato
I've been spending too much time tuned to c6...i think there's more to gain from the d tunning?...
Each open tuning offers various benefits and adding the string benders opens them up even more. Palm levers on a C6 as just as much versatility too :) You asl can retune to a lot of tunings from a C6 set, so keep that in mind too!
@@BardNomad 👍
So using a bender to slide around to get nowhere. Genius!
For godsakes please do a video how a bender works
What do you mean? This whole video talks about the benders. I'm looking to do more lessons all about the Benders. Tell me what you are looking for.
@@LessonsWithTroy how they work mechanically. I own a peavey powerslide and never seen a bender? Is this something I can get installed?
@@michaelwinemiller9250 You can get them from Duesenberg. They are pretty sweet. You just push it down and it raises the string up
the multibender for elect guitar has adj. saddles while the multibender for lap steel has straight saddle. wat-a-crok! doesn't duesenberg know that lap steels need compensated bridge also? i recommend you replace yer multibender with the adj saddle part, or buy the entire multibender part aftermarket.
I don't know whether the bender makes any difference but I've had a LOT of lap steels - Rickenbacher, Fender, Supro, Cole Clarke, a handbuilt one - and not one of them has had a compensated bridge.
Lap steels do NOT use or need a compensated bridge. You tune your steel to whatever chord you're using (e.g., open D would be D-A-D-F#-A-D). You tune that open chord to be perfectly in tune. Look at a pedal steel -- same thing. The string all 'break' over a roller bridge, which is straight across.
@@lapdawg60 Exactly. I normally tune the 3rd of the chord -10 cents
@@lapdawg60 it is 'more' in tune with compensated bridge. i notice a huge difference in sharpness (accuracy) of chords. no diff in single string at all, with compensation one can play 3 strings and achieve a believable musical chord-not so with straight bridge. most players are out of tune to my ear, to each his own i guess. put it on a tc clip on tuner which is accurate to 1/20 cent and see it is out of tune if you think it is in tune. nothing is perfect but i say straight bridge is junk. i deserve better closer to 'in tune' than a straight bridge. use vibrato to disguise the fact that it is out of tune, that is what the deniers do...
As long as you're playing with a wound 3rd, I think the straight bridge is perfectly fine.
F sharp
Well that really cleared things up. Thanks for taking time out of your day to give such a concise explanation.
@@tomasotreasaigh111 he said F sharp. i only repeated what he said. you should thank him.
@@jamesha175 eh? Is that ALL he said?
@@tomasotreasaigh111 i guess i could have typed out his every word but i got sidetracked with the F sharp.
(F sharp)
@@jamesha175 I dont share your fascination with F sharp. (F sharp) But you go hog wild if you feel like it.
Push levers? why not just get a three pedal steel.
For that price you might as well get a single neck pedal steel and be able to do it all instead of pretending you're playing a pedal steel. Just sayin'
To each their own. I hear what you're sayin', but it's nice not having to lug around a pedal steel to gigs. This thing has it's own thing going on too.
This is a much simpler setup. I'd rather have a small instrument I can play comfortably anywhere
@@jacobsmith1877 Bingo!
А русский перевод слабо сделать ?
Let's review. powerful stuff, if you know how to use it... 11:04