I don’t pass on many mid tier football products but I couldn’t bring myself to buy this. Should be in the low 300s in a couple weeks and will still be a tough buy. It’s just a wild year with the prices and lack of the best rookie autos.
MAN I'm so done with openings sport packs! theirs no value opening packs anymore. I honestly wish people would boycott these scamming companies. You're lucky to get 20-30% of value that it cost which should be illegal tbh. You're better off opening tcg products like mtg, one piece etc.. at worst you break even on the box most of the time you profit..😢 ima stick with singles and clearance packs for the fun rips...
I like the cards but for the $450 price tag and what Panini is putting in their boxes I see why people are opening up Leaf products cause unlicensed products is giving you a chance for the top players but Andy I respect you and will continue to support you no matter what!! Great video 🎉🎉
@@AcmePacks it’s the same with every product. We should just organize a two week boycott of every release until they release at more reasonable prices. Every product releases insanely high, we realize it sucks, they drop the price, people scoop it up, then the price flies back up. Wish we could skip the first and last steps.
@@lionslucksportscards9835breakers and re sellers are part of the problem. Panini is printing money and people just buy it up. I miss the days of 4 years ago 😢
My theory is they load the low end rc's for autos and the higher the pick the lesser the chance of a top picks auto .. I call it the Skittles theroy ...less reds and purple the desired flavors compared to a bag full of yellow green and orange..
High risk and high reward to try to make us high! Like Terrence McKenna said, the goal of new age is to make everyone high. But what if after getting high, even from cards... you can't come down! I think purchasing products under $50 is good to be perfectly seasoned. If I were to buy any hobby boxes, then under $150 would be good. Don't let your wallet drag you up, but rather lift you up from depression in your frugal purchases. : )
Facts ...I just buy retail and sleeve up top players hit or miss... enjoy the rip and hope in a few years ala j love or stock up in a big QB class wait and see what singles will sell well
I could never bring myself to buy optic contenders hobby. These are just too much risk and not alot of upside. But thanks for taking one for the team. 😂 ouch !😳😭🤦
Honestly what is Panini even doing. Retail makes no sense this year and hobby is worse than going to the casino. You shouldn't have to hope for a case hit of the top 3 guys to be in the money.
Ap in your yesterdays stream my brother stole my device and he said I won’t say something dumb and he said I wish I had your luck cause I know your luck isn’t the best
As long as we keep paying ridiculous prices they will continue to push the limits for their profits. Breakers, flippers, and greedy card companies continue to raise the prices on products. The average collector cannot afford these boxes. Panini raise the price so flippers won’t bother. But breakers pay cause they can profit one way or the other. Retail prices were raised to close the gap between hobby and retail. Everybody trying to drain collectors pockets to the point that it is no longer fun. People forget we collect for fun not profit. I understand this is a business first. Time to boycott high prices.
Ultimately this is on panini. They choose to set the prices. I dont blame breakers because people still buy into breaks. If prices were cheaper, breakers would still exist, spots would just be cheaper. You can blame them if you want, but at the end of the day, the pricing is on Panini and Topps.
Man maybe we both need to just stay away from anything with the word optic or contenders in it 😂. Thanks for sharing! The auto checklist doesn’t look bad overall but seems like 90% of the volume is in the no name rookies so they might as well not have guys like Herbert and Adrian Peterson listed on there. Wish the volume on those types of vets was a lot higher to offset the lack of high end qb autos
Digital is the wave. NBA PRIZIM CHOICE TIGER WEMBY SSP physical sold for 19k. The digital version out. of /144 is something to look at on Panino Blockchain
I don’t pass on many mid tier football products but I couldn’t bring myself to buy this. Should be in the low 300s in a couple weeks and will still be a tough buy. It’s just a wild year with the prices and lack of the best rookie autos.
Ngl, even at $100 most of these boxes would still be negative ROI 😅
100% agree. I would consider opening one at $250.
MAN I'm so done with openings sport packs! theirs no value opening packs anymore. I honestly wish people would boycott these scamming companies. You're lucky to get 20-30% of value that it cost which should be illegal tbh. You're better off opening tcg products like mtg, one piece etc.. at worst you break even on the box most of the time you profit..😢 ima stick with singles and clearance packs for the fun rips...
I haven’t bought cards in awhile I spend my money on psa 10 of the cards I want save so much money.
It’s gambling cards would be worthless if they gave everyone rare cards no cards would be rare
To be fair it’s also meant for collectors to
Wow! Those were brutal, I liked the Achane though.
The cards from this set paired along side college ticket , looks spot on
Thanks for your honesty and for taking 2 bullets for us. These autograph heavy boxes for 2023-24 NFL aren't worth it.
I had some CRAZY hits from that pack
I like the cards but for the $450 price tag and what Panini is putting in their boxes I see why people are opening up Leaf products cause unlicensed products is giving you a chance for the top players but Andy I respect you and will continue to support you no matter what!! Great video 🎉🎉
My LCS has these for $420, and my guess is that they sit a while. Absolutely brutal. The checklist is way too deep. You are 100 percent on point here.
@@lionslucksportscards9835 prices are dropping like crazy for this now!
@@AcmePacks it’s the same with every product. We should just organize a two week boycott of every release until they release at more reasonable prices. Every product releases insanely high, we realize it sucks, they drop the price, people scoop it up, then the price flies back up. Wish we could skip the first and last steps.
@@lionslucksportscards9835breakers and re sellers are part of the problem. Panini is printing money and people just buy it up. I miss the days of 4 years ago 😢
I feel like I've been waiting MINUTES! for this video since I saw you mention it in the live stream replay I was watching earlier.
Good looking cards.
You'll never see a box like that in the Backyard!! 😤😤🤭
I'll stick to singles yet again for this one.Such a shame because these cards are beautiful.Thanks for the review,much appreciated!
Just got in a break for 15 bucks and hit a love auto 3/25! I was shaking lol
Thats so sick!
I have the J Reed out of 13 preview
Nice lil Devon
Saw a damaged Farve auto get pulled on another channel. Bummer on those two boxes.
Love the product, but oof at the auto checklist. At least they have the non-auto rookies in base format!
My theory is they load the low end rc's for autos and the higher the pick the lesser the chance of a top picks auto .. I call it the Skittles theroy ...less reds and purple the desired flavors compared to a bag full of yellow green and orange..
Where do you get those penny sleeves with the cut corners?
@@mosdefmike those are from cardshellz
Definitely rough with these. Although the ones I seen in your group break yesterday did have some nice thicccccies!
Might need to buy a case at minimum to cover all bases
What’s the gold RPA 1/1s worth for these?
Depends on the player!
@ Anthony Richardson shield 1/1?
@@NickM8000 few grand probably. 1/1s are always hard to comp
@ hell yeah! Appreciate it hope you rip some nice pulls soon!!!
Hall Mayne be the man this year now jj out for the season
wow i am sorry you went through this man...
Is Tre Tucker for sale?
It will be!
Always wanted to rip one of those, but just can’t do it lol
Brutal. Not for the average joe thats for sure 😂.
cards were mid but a big CONGRATS on 20K!!!!!
Cost almost twice as much as it should I think, but that's like almost all boxes nowadays
Thanks for the warning. 😂
Tough stuff!
The true definition of “taking one for the team” ouch.
I would like to purchase that Herbert MVP from you if I could as well.
Cant win them all
High risk and high reward to try to make us high! Like Terrence McKenna said, the goal of new age is to make everyone high. But what if after getting high, even from cards... you can't come down! I think purchasing products under $50 is good to be perfectly seasoned. If I were to buy any hobby boxes, then under $150 would be good. Don't let your wallet drag you up, but rather lift you up from depression in your frugal purchases. : )
Facts ...I just buy retail and sleeve up top players hit or miss... enjoy the rip and hope in a few years ala j love or stock up in a big QB class wait and see what singles will sell well
There are products for every price point!
Wild Rip. Beautiful product. Just need the bangerz!
Mega box level autos :( I could but the nice Justin Herbert autos I want for that 500 price tag
I could never bring myself to buy optic contenders hobby. These are just too much risk and not alot of upside. But thanks for taking one for the team. 😂 ouch !😳😭🤦
Honestly what is Panini even doing. Retail makes no sense this year and hobby is worse than going to the casino. You shouldn't have to hope for a case hit of the top 3 guys to be in the money.
Ap in your yesterdays stream my brother stole my device and he said I won’t say something dumb and he said I wish I had your luck cause I know your luck isn’t the best
A-Chan
I have always heard it pronounced a chain
I think 150$ would be fair for these and that’s if everyone signed
Holy sh**, Panini should be ashamed of themselves. I’m sad you had to go through that twice.
Man just brutal. $1k and like $100 maybe back. Good lord 😅
Ouch
😮
man thats brutal. 😢😢
Unfortunately….Back Door Breaks got your gold vinyl 😥
Time to go buy a ct scanner! 🤣
Legal robbery right there
Vikings is my favorite team but why the hell is Jaren hall in a 500$ product
@@blickytv because its overprinted haha
@@AcmePacks facts
Sponsorship by Fanatics and PSA may lessen that risk... something to keep in mind, if you DON'T enjoy those sponsorships...
ONCE AGAIN AUTOS , NO STUDS BUT PLENTY OF DUDS. UGH.THANKS4THE RIPS.
Where is the high reward again? Richardson which will give maybe a grand or so? Stroud etc have no autos so the return is still limited
As long as we keep paying ridiculous prices they will continue to push the limits for their profits. Breakers, flippers, and greedy card companies continue to raise the prices on products. The average collector cannot afford these boxes. Panini raise the price so flippers won’t bother. But breakers pay cause they can profit one way or the other. Retail prices were raised to close the gap between hobby and retail. Everybody trying to drain collectors pockets to the point that it is no longer fun. People forget we collect for fun not profit. I understand this is a business first. Time to boycott high prices.
Ultimately this is on panini. They choose to set the prices. I dont blame breakers because people still buy into breaks. If prices were cheaper, breakers would still exist, spots would just be cheaper. You can blame them if you want, but at the end of the day, the pricing is on Panini and Topps.
First!
Is Brenton Strange in kindergarten?? What an awful signature! hahahahahah
Panini puts all these no name rookies cause they can’t sign the big names.
I’m interested in how Topps Chrome Basketball does. See how Panini reacts.
Well fanatics stole the biggest ones by signing them to exclusive deals. Not all the blame is ok panini
I don’t open panini hobby. They are an awful company. Been ripping a lot of leaf lately and it’s super fun. Topps is even better.
Man maybe we both need to just stay away from anything with the word optic or contenders in it 😂. Thanks for sharing! The auto checklist doesn’t look bad overall but seems like 90% of the volume is in the no name rookies so they might as well not have guys like Herbert and Adrian Peterson listed on there. Wish the volume on those types of vets was a lot higher to offset the lack of high end qb autos
I think any optic product is not the great
Panini 😢
You love to hurt yourself!
Of your really wanted to waste $900 just send it to me I'm trying to build a new house
Same lol
Up and Coming stolen idea from Leaf of all things.....
The absolute worst product in my opinion.
Just stop buying this crap
@@michaelsimmons8902 🤷♂️
Digital is the wave. NBA PRIZIM CHOICE TIGER WEMBY SSP physical sold for 19k. The digital version out. of /144 is something to look at on Panino Blockchain
High end product - probably CT Scanned already! I really hope that doesn't cripple the hobby!!!
Doesn't cripple it if u buy singles lol
In all seriousness.. when are you guys going to learn..??..99% of product is garbage.. my $15 Select fat pack pulled better stuff than this..
Thats why i said over and over again that this is not a smart product to rip