Security plus cert cost like 350-400 buck in civilian world im pretty sure so what you should do if you are waiting to join instead is study a lot for it and ace practice tests but have the military pay for it for your actual test once you get to tech school
I was thinking about AF and doing the same job also. I was told by others if I really want to get stationed in Japan "which I really want to be", is to do short tour/deployment in SK then I heard you get choice of duty station after. Plus SK also a bucketlist country for me also.
I was at Keesler around 6/81 to 2/82 to cross train into 2E2x1. My experience was different as I was an E-4 so I was housed in a BAQ style dorm. Just be on time to class and no one cared what I did on my off time. Spent Xmas./New years on base so I had to be available to serve as support for new Airman on "campus" who where not traveling anywhere. In other words, supervise work details to keep them occupied during the day. Biloxi was a nice place to spend the winter in.
I’m leaving to BMT in 2 1/2 Months at 22 years old, it’s been my Dream to become a Serviceman in the forces. I just got a call today from my recruiter. He told me my ship date and my job (Client Systems), I’m really freaked out about PT and everything leading up to Tech school. Thanks for the video, I hope to be successful!
What would you say the courses were like for people who didn’t have previous tech experience or knowledge. I’m thinking of this job for the Air Force but I’ve never really known much about this type of information. Also when you say Sec+ before tech school do you mean try to get it while on civilian before enlistment? Last question can you go over what the blocks are and what they’re like?
Hey Im going into cyber security I ship to bmt Tuesday I just wanted to know what you put on your dream sheet to get Korea I know I’m a few years late but I’d definitely like to know
I plan on going in after I graduate college. The job I want is an enlisted job and I was wondering if I would go in at a different rank. I'm not quite sure about becoming an officer right away. With that said I want to stay in as long as possible.
You need to pursue being an officer. If you already have a bachelor's you can just go to OTS. Lots of people think going enlisted after college is better but if you plan on staying in you should be an officer. More pay/better jobs and job security.
Also it's not a guarantee that you will be able to "transition" to an officer once enlisted. They only accept a certain number of people for the transition program.
I am leaving in less than a month. 3D1X1. I have no IT background. Got a Sec+ book (GCGH) and read first few chapters. I am super worried about Sec+ exam. My question is how long the actual Client Systems training at Keesler and how do you prepare for the final Sec+ test in final 2 weeks phase? Thanks for the great video.
+FANBOY Lets' Plays Thank you for the reply. My clearance is still in progress. I am a Reserve. What about you and would you like to form a study group , if not yet cleared Sec+?
Security + is one of the biggest certifications you can get for I.T. and they provide that as long as you pass. Others that you want are ones I'm sure you can get online tests
I’m interested in joining and going to Keesler, but would I have to wait until next year to go if it’s already in session (like college classes and having to wait until next quarter if it’s already in session)
Did you pick oversees ??? Also for finance comptroller which tech school is in keesler ...they can be stationed anywhere are we allowed to not request oversees?
I got the same job and I was wondering how easy it would be to cross train into a higher level IT job like cyber surety/operations after your enlistment?(mine is 4 years)
I am going for Client Systems. My BMT is in two months. How can I prepare for Security+ in advance? Do you have any suggestion how one can prepare for the Client Systems?
When I went through basic in the 70's I developed painful bursitis in both knees from so much marching. At sick call I was treated with cortisone shots under both knee caps - not pleasant, but it did the trick after a few days. Got a 5-day duty excuse - no marchig or standing, no PT and I missed the obstacle course twice. I picked up where I left off after day 5 and completed basic training without being held back.
Yeah, pretty sure you were having "heart palpitations "in regards to the heart-beat/heart-stop issue (highly harmless and can be induced by anxiety or whatever unknown reason).This first happened to me when I was 18, and I was also placed on an EMT monitor. I'm now in my 20s and still get them every now and then- but not as bad compared to the past.
I've also been studying for the Security+ for quite some time and debating about enlisting in Cyber Systems Operations or Cyber Transport Systems. So, it's good to know that getting the Security+ beforehand can reduce time of being in tech school.
Yep, dont really get them anymore unless I am super stressed out or have caffeine. Also continue with Sec+, and even if you decide not to go in you have a very valuable certification
@@ethaninjapan Glad to know that your chest palpitations no longer occur as much. And definitely. I have the exam booked for Monday and hope that it goes well!
On failing/ screwing around in Tech School... if you do not accomplish and graduate in your chosen job, they Air Force has two options... 1. Recycle you into a field of their choosing... which many times is Security Forces, to cook, or whatever crap job they have a need in, or Two. Discharge you.... "YOU" have no options, but OBEY. Dont like it? JOIN THE NAVY...
I’m turning 17 this week and this is pretty much the job I want. Might be a dumb question but could you study for the security + job outside the AF and is there anything I could do to make sure I get the job I want
not much you can do aside from waiting for the job you want to open up. but you can get sec+ certified before joining and have a much easier time throughout it all
At least you are still getting paid to learn. The guy that already has the certificate probably won't be vacationing but working at next base. Also, another airman said he failed so he got retrained into weather
Im thinking about going into the airforce to study computer programming and cyber security. Is it first timer friendly??? I want to get into the field but not alot of computer programming experience? Is it slow paced or is it for computer nerds ONLY?
"heart palpitations" not unusual... caffeine from coffee, tea, or coke... The change in coffee brand and strength in AF basic training probably more caffeine. < Most likely triggered yours... Sugar can also trigger your heart to do flips.
How does Prior service or cross train does in TS? I mean where do they stay? Do they need to march? I used to remember someone cross training from other afsc lived in Hotels, separate with regulars and they can drove their car? Anybody have any updates about this?
Think of blocks like sections. A block is about a different topic of your job, and that length can vary from 5 days to about 2 weeks. My first job in tech school was airfield systems at keesler, so I had 5 blocks at one school (Dolan Hall) and then 12 blocks at another (Jones Hall). I'm out the service now after about 8 years. Best of luck!
335th here. Was in from 04-08 and former black rope when I was at Keesler from Jan-Aug 05. Crazy how it’s still the same as it was then. Thank you for your service, brother.
Also, Biloxi has some crazy weather and the mornings sucked marching to class because I would get so sweaty. Did they still have the food trucks in the morning offering breakfast?
Can you go to tech school with a misdemeanor for Poss. Of marijuana? I got a coding certificate after grad. Hs and I want to pursue something along those lines. I was just wondering if I could still get a security clearance or get ANY job in tech school through the air force ? Thanks
If you're serious about joining, you can always talk to a recruiter and sort it out. I've seen people with worse in the AF. If you want to do something with coding however, I don't recommend joining.
Security plus cert cost like 350-400 buck in civilian world im pretty sure so what you should do if you are waiting to join instead is study a lot for it and ace practice tests but have the military pay for it for your actual test once you get to tech school
Wow you did well, got the best Job and now OSAN - I was in the same Job there but it was call something else back then. You are going to love it!
I was thinking about AF and doing the same job also. I was told by others if I really want to get stationed in Japan "which I really want to be", is to do short tour/deployment in SK then I heard you get choice of duty station after. Plus SK also a bucketlist country for me also.
Just passed sec+ today as client Systems as well 😁
Congrats
I got this job, do you like it?
@@HunterGoodacre there are definitely good and bad days, with the new afsc merger it'll be interesting to see how it changes
@@frozenparodoxbassman what are deployments like?
@@HunterGoodacre same work, just typically longer hours and change of environment
I got cyber transport systems and im shipping june 8th, this video calmed the nerves a bit i appreciate you
I ship off for cyber transport systems in 3 weeks !
@@Thelegend-sh5ci I’m shipping out for the same thing Dec. 7th
@@michaelrichards2024 that’s awesome! We’ll be at basic and tech school at the same time. Any chance your shipping out of Knoxville?
@@Thelegend-sh5ci shipping for cyber transpo 1 month
@@taylorgerrish7264 I just graduated basic man good luck !!
bro said bmt was a cake walk then proceeds with “i got so stressed out my heart [literally] started skipping beats” 😭
BMT was fun. I have an anxiety disorder and sometimes it just happens. Even at home
My boy is Client Systems as well? I ship out four days from now, but this vid made me feel lots better. Thanks mate
I was at Keesler around 6/81 to 2/82 to cross train into 2E2x1. My experience was different as I was an E-4 so I was housed in a BAQ style dorm. Just be on time to class and no one cared what I did on my off time. Spent Xmas./New years on base so I had to be available to serve as support for new Airman on "campus" who where not traveling anywhere. In other words, supervise work details to keep them occupied during the day. Biloxi was a nice place to spend the winter in.
I’m leaving to BMT in 2 1/2 Months at 22 years old, it’s been my Dream to become a Serviceman in the forces.
I just got a call today from my recruiter. He told me my ship date and my job (Client Systems), I’m really freaked out about PT and everything leading up to Tech school.
Thanks for the video, I hope to be successful!
What would you say the courses were like for people who didn’t have previous tech experience or knowledge. I’m thinking of this job for the Air Force but I’ve never really known much about this type of information.
Also when you say Sec+ before tech school do you mean try to get it while on civilian before enlistment?
Last question can you go over what the blocks are and what they’re like?
Hey Im going into cyber security I ship to bmt Tuesday I just wanted to know what you put on your dream sheet to get Korea I know I’m a few years late but I’d definitely like to know
What is a school day like ? Days, time weekends for studying ? Are we ever able to leave base???
I plan on going in after I graduate college. The job I want is an enlisted job and I was wondering if I would go in at a different rank. I'm not quite sure about becoming an officer right away. With that said I want to stay in as long as possible.
You need to pursue being an officer. If you already have a bachelor's you can just go to OTS. Lots of people think going enlisted after college is better but if you plan on staying in you should be an officer. More pay/better jobs and job security.
Also it's not a guarantee that you will be able to "transition" to an officer once enlisted. They only accept a certain number of people for the transition program.
Thank you I had no idea
Me too I graduate Dec.2022
I am leaving in less than a month. 3D1X1. I have no IT background. Got a Sec+ book (GCGH) and read first few chapters. I am super worried about Sec+ exam. My question is how long the actual Client Systems training at Keesler and how do you prepare for the final Sec+ test in final 2 weeks phase? Thanks for the great video.
+FANBOY Lets' Plays Thank you for the reply. My clearance is still in progress. I am a Reserve. What about you and would you like to form a study group , if not yet cleared Sec+?
noone
How was it?
I know a lot of people that studied pools of questions and it really help them out. I studied by the book and barely passed XD.
I’m about to do the same thing with cyber surety, how was tech school with no IT background?
Do they give you any IT certifications?
Security + is one of the biggest certifications you can get for I.T. and they provide that as long as you pass. Others that you want are ones I'm sure you can get online tests
I’m interested in joining and going to Keesler, but would I have to wait until next year to go if it’s already in session (like college classes and having to wait until next quarter if it’s already in session)
Just talk to a recruiter, and if you have a job you want, only sign a contract if you get that job.
Did you pick oversees ??? Also for finance comptroller which tech school is in keesler ...they can be stationed anywhere are we allowed to not request oversees?
Xiomarie Lorena You fill out a "Dream Sheet" at basic and they will try and pick something on it. But its really all luck
I got the same job and I was wondering how easy it would be to cross train into a higher level IT job like cyber surety/operations after your enlistment?(mine is 4 years)
Chandler Lawrence Apparently its pretty easy, but Ive heard that they are merging most com jobs anyway
I want to be in Client systems I went to MEPs last month how is it?
Can I ask you how long your work days are?
9 hours with a 1 hour lunch break on normal days. Sometimes 12 hour shifts just depends on workload.
@@ethaninjapan thanks for answering bro. Been watching your videos all day
@@veghead1043 no problem! I am definitely going to keep making more, so stay tuned
I was there in 89-90. Loved it. He said Air Force was cake. When I was in it was wedding cake, ice cream and gold skates to boot. Great education.
Are these cyber jobs available for AF reserve ?
Yes. Talk to a recruiter though.
Depends on the unit you are signing with. I signed with a Combat Communications Unit and the majority of us there were in the tech fields.
I am going for Client Systems. My BMT is in two months. How can I prepare for Security+ in advance? Do you have any suggestion how one can prepare for the Client Systems?
Professer Messer on youtube. Thats the biggest free resource
When I went through basic in the 70's I developed painful bursitis in both knees from so much marching. At sick call I was treated with cortisone shots under both knee caps - not pleasant, but it did the trick after a few days. Got a 5-day duty excuse - no marchig or standing, no PT and I missed the obstacle course twice. I picked up where I left off after day 5 and completed basic training without being held back.
Damn sounds like god loved you. Super lucky not to get rolled back
I’m thinking about Cyber Surety but the descriptions for the job are somewhat vague. Is it somewhat like cyber security in the civilian world?
Dj Toney i have the same question!
Yes.... But no
To clarify, Cyber surety are auditors.. Cyber Warfare operations is real Cyber security.
I leave in about 2 weeks, and just wanted to say you definitely helped calm the nerves. Thanks
Did you ever get together with other airmen and formed study groups to help prepare for tests ?
I was at Keesler from Apr 17' to Sept 17' for Cyber Transport. 5 long months. If you aren't already a computer nerd... good luck XD.
Mannnnnnnn
Could you describe the difference between Surety and System Ops and Client Systems?
Also can you send any links to places I can take the sec+ certs before I take the Surety job?
Client is dealing with slot of hardware, system ops is mostly software, and I’m guessing surety is like cyber security.
Thank you so much for the information, specially the thing about security +, You should do more videos!
Thank you! I am working on a video right now actually. I am going to start uploading regularly.
@@ethaninjapan really
Yeah, pretty sure you were having "heart palpitations "in regards to the heart-beat/heart-stop issue (highly harmless and can be induced by anxiety or whatever unknown reason).This first happened to me when I was 18, and I was also placed on an EMT monitor. I'm now in my 20s and still get them every now and then- but not as bad compared to the past.
I've also been studying for the Security+ for quite some time and debating about enlisting in Cyber Systems Operations or Cyber Transport Systems. So, it's good to know that getting the Security+ beforehand can reduce time of being in tech school.
Yep, dont really get them anymore unless I am super stressed out or have caffeine. Also continue with Sec+, and even if you decide not to go in you have a very valuable certification
@@ethaninjapan Glad to know that your chest palpitations no longer occur as much. And definitely. I have the exam booked for Monday and hope that it goes well!
Let me know how it goes! Feel free to DM me on twitter or Instagram @brownie_boy_1
On failing/ screwing around in Tech School... if you do not accomplish and graduate in your chosen job, they Air Force has two options... 1. Recycle you into a field of their choosing... which many times is Security Forces, to cook, or whatever crap job they have a need in, or Two. Discharge you.... "YOU" have no options, but OBEY.
Dont like it? JOIN THE NAVY...
If you have a cyber certs like Cysa+ and CISSP, can you skip certain parts of tech school training?
Nope, for the client system, you have to do cyber fundamentals. And do your pipeline and test for sec plus.
Thanks for this video. I actually live here in Biloxi Mississippi. Can you retest for the sec plus if you fail out of tech school?
Just got accepted for cross training into client systems :D it's going to be so weird going to tech school again..
You failed tech school before?
No
Is it hard from your experiences in the tech field?
I have no experience in the tech field it will be completely new for me. I’ve been an aircraft maintainer for the past 6 years
Me too bro, I was maintenance too. When’s your class date mine is august
Man.. my name is Ethan White. Weird
I’m turning 17 this week and this is pretty much the job I want. Might be a dumb question but could you study for the security + job outside the AF and is there anything I could do to make sure I get the job I want
not much you can do aside from waiting for the job you want to open up. but you can get sec+ certified before joining and have a much easier time throughout it all
At least you are still getting paid to learn. The guy that already has the certificate probably won't be vacationing but working at next base. Also, another airman said he failed so he got retrained into weather
Im thinking about going into the airforce to study computer programming and cyber security. Is it first timer friendly??? I want to get into the field but not alot of computer programming experience? Is it slow paced or is it for computer nerds ONLY?
Yes. They start from zero and teach from there.
Absolutely fantastic. I got high scores and qualify for 3D1X2 TS. I’m entry level for sure but I love to learn. Thank you for the insight.
What if your already security+ certified
You should Upload more stuff on client systems. I hardly find any videos on this job.
What is the pay like while in BMT/Tech school?
"heart palpitations" not unusual... caffeine from coffee, tea, or coke... The change in coffee brand and strength in AF basic training probably more caffeine. < Most likely triggered yours... Sugar can also trigger your heart to do flips.
how up to date is this? to anyone that will answer
@@LKMGgames 6 years old at this point (I'm out of the Air Force now). I can still answer questions you might have
And how long was your tech school ?? I know mine is 57 how long would that be .. I know it varies
Xiomarie Lorena My tech school was 4 months long, but I had to stay for an extra 2 months to outprocess
With tech constantly changing this probably is outdated a lot but I loved this
Can the spouse visit while in tech school?
How long was the phase 1?
Hi sir, with this job, can you find work in the civilian sector?
How does Prior service or cross train does in TS? I mean where do they stay? Do they need to march? I used to remember someone cross training from other afsc lived in Hotels, separate with regulars and they can drove their car? Anybody have any updates about this?
can you be on adhd medication?
If you have the sec+ before tech school you don’t have to take it again right ?
No, if you have the cert and the paperwork involving it your good. Once you finish pipeline/ main job courses you can pcs.
blocks? what you mean by blocks.
Think of blocks like sections. A block is about a different topic of your job, and that length can vary from 5 days to about 2 weeks.
My first job in tech school was airfield systems at keesler, so I had 5 blocks at one school (Dolan Hall) and then 12 blocks at another (Jones Hall). I'm out the service now after about 8 years. Best of luck!
Bro was there bathrooms on that bus lol
Bathrooms from bmt to tech school not from the airport to bmt.
Ethan do you have an email or contact? I would love a rundown of all the tech jobs and the differences.
Hey, I fucking know this guy
BMT still includes BEAST right? I've heard some rumors saying that they recently removed it.
Bryder Gaming BEAST is still a thing
335th here. Was in from 04-08 and former black rope when I was at Keesler from Jan-Aug 05. Crazy how it’s still the same as it was then. Thank you for your service, brother.
Also, Biloxi has some crazy weather and the mornings sucked marching to class because I would get so sweaty. Did they still have the food trucks in the morning offering breakfast?
Awesome!
Can you go to tech school with a misdemeanor for Poss. Of marijuana? I got a coding certificate after grad. Hs and I want to pursue something along those lines.
I was just wondering if I could still get a security clearance or get ANY job in tech school through the air force ?
Thanks
If you're serious about joining, you can always talk to a recruiter and sort it out. I've seen people with worse in the AF. If you want to do something with coding however, I don't recommend joining.
A lot of that kind of work is contracted out, so nobody "In" the Air Force really does it.
@@ethaninjapan okay thanks bud
I want to be stationed there as well. Where on the list was it on your dream sheet?
It was 2nd or 3rd Im pretty sure
Thank you so much for the content.
You had panic attacks
Is it possible to sneak out during tech school at Kessler?
It's possible but I wouldn't do it.
Just... don’t join if that’s where your priorities are.
I wonder what your intentions were lol
Got a jealous gf here. Making sure Jon isn't sneaking out.
@@mjisurdad you're right lol. I was jealous 😂 it didn't work out tbh