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The only correct way to play football is how 5 year olds play. There are no goalkeepers, and all 22 players run after the ball together.
Grow up.
Leeds under Bielsa😁
It’s the most fun way lol
@@user-yz1zt1nq1pyou're probably fun to be around in parties
Like white blood cells fighting an infection
I remember when Thierry Henry told a story of when he went out of position and scored a goal, then Pep subbed him off immediately. That's what you're getting when you join City.
Under Pep, you have a very specific role and you need to show up every weekend and perform your dance. Very few players have ever gotten a free role under Guardiola; Messi and KDB.
Even Messi never got the freedom you're thinking. As a false 9 in 2010/11 he was tasked with dominating the half space behind the DM and in front of the CBs. All his play happened there (and whatever zone he happened to rotate into). 2011/12, he was tasked with being the actual 9. He always had specific instructions he had to adhere to, never like how it is under Scaloni at Argentina for instance.
“but but noooo guardiola is just playing football manager and I could manage the players he picks and win everything with unlimited budget!!! does he do anything at all???” some people are idiots man
@@d3w222 Yes actually anyone could win with those players and unlimited budget.
But didn’t Thierry Henry actually said he respected this style and he said he would something like this in his own coaching
@@TPCDAZ you are slow if you think pep doesn’t contribute loads to his teams. it is what it is. go watch any tactical analysis videos on youtube. pep is a genius. best coach/football mind of all time. people argue SAF because he was good with the money on the manager side of things but even he outspent all his competition when he won all his records. city play so tactically smart and pep practically invents or reinvents a new role every other season.
Honestly, in recent years I came to the conclusion that lower quality football is so much more entertaining, there is just so much fun in watching disorganised teams play against eachother but I still prefer international team tournaments over anything else
The bundesliga is the best when it comes to that. Pretty much everyone plays Bielsa ball and goes YOLO even against the big teams.
That's the moment when you realise it's not really football that you love, but gambling. Of course, the converse of this is that if you like City's style of play you're probably better off watching chess.
@@brzt4256 shut the f*ck up man. if you never grew up playing footy then SHUT it
That's what makes the World Cup so great - almost every team is flawed and have to play different styles. It's rarely perfect team vs perfect team.
2014, Nike, The Last Game. "There's no greater danger than playing it safe."
A decade has passed and that value has been lost. Remember the dude with the turtleneck and his team of "perfect" footballers from that ad? That's Pep Guardiola and Man City.
I miss the flair, the excitement, the freedom, the personality of the beautiful game. Football has gone from a game to a job. This isn't 22 players enjoying themselves on the pitch, it's two managers playing a glorified match of chess.
This was inavoidable the moment football became a profession and not a hoby.
@@stefankatsarov5806football always was a profession, but always praised how much money and audience you bring. And guess watch? Putting up a show has always been better than fucking robot play.
@@stefankatsarov5806 Yep, it's a prophecy 120+ years in the making.
@@stefankatsarov5806I'm no longer going to watch this sport if it keeps trending this way. I'm definitely not alone, they'll have to change something because otherwise sport will take a huge dip in popularity
What a perfect way to describe it. I remember that turtleneck bowl cut Neymar from that ad
There's a short that I watched where Grealish described the difference between when he played for Aston Villa vs how he currently plays for Manchester City. He said that when he played for Aston Villa, Dean Smith (who was his coach at the time) kinda just lets him do what he wants or what he sees fit on the pitch. Whereas with Pep he said he has to play a specific way and not move not of position or else he'll get a scolding from him. As great as a coach Pep Guardiola is, his demand for his players to play exactly how he wants to play can result in his players having no creative freedom on the pitch. That's why many of his players can feel like a totally different person between their current time in Man City versus their time at their previous clubs or at another club after they leave.
I wonder if Jack would like to return to yo-yoing between the champ and prem again, or keep winning titles.
@@estcoachgregIt depends on whether he feels like he is contributing to those title wins, and whether he feels accomplished this way. I wouldn’t feel great winning a trophy that I barely helped win.
@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740that's irrelevant to what the comment is talking about. No one here is arguing it doesn't get results.
@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 nice
Point is that it works phenomenally for his teams but can certainly make specific players feel alienated.
The discussion about "beauty in sports" isn't really unique to football. Basketball has this in the "three pointers ruined the game" discussion, while sumo has this in two fronts: "just pushing isn't a good tactic even when it wins" and "moving to the side may be legal but it shouldn't, it ruins the sport." I'm sure other sports has this "ideal way of playing," and critics who will say "they don't play how they used to."
In the case of moving to the side in sumo, it does not even have an official "technique name" AFAIK it is considered more of a way to lose (stepping outside of the dohyo without being under attack), which considering the traditional nature of sumo, and how resistant to change the sport is, makes the conversation a little bit more fundamented tho.
Interesting allusion with sumo, it's always neat to hear people talk about it from time to time
Reminds me of fencing 😂 the argument is that they used to be duel-like, but now turned into the "we kill each other but I kill you first" game
The 3 pointers thing isn't the exact comparison cuz this one is more about player's freedom vs management. Basketball hasn't gone through an actual basketball coach revolution. Only one was pop and for some reason the only one that followed pop's step was kerr. It is still filled with mediocre coaches so you get to have a lot more freedom for the players.
the 3 pointer DID ruin the game of basketball. It's unwatchable to me.
This reminds me of the old basketball adage: "The only man that could stop Michael Jordan was Dean Smith."
what does that mean?
@@jokerknarkern it means deano needs to make a comeback to the prem to stop the pep dynasty
@@jokerknarkern Dean Smith was Michael Jordan's coach in college
@@jokerknarkernhe's making a connection to Dean Smith, the UNC coach when Jordan was at university, being the only one who could stop Jordan, by handcuffing him to a system rather than letting him do his thing.
Weirdly, the Villa coach who let Grealish do his thing is also named Dean Smith.
You got it just a bit wrong. It's the only man that could stop Michael Jordan from scoring 20.
I remember Thierry Henry talking about this when he was at Barcelona
I remember Eto saying the same
@@Randomaccount9470 Pedro said the same
Zlatan basically said the same thing so it's funny really that 3 at the time world class players said the same things about one coach and how he basically held them to a system that made them look worse and make messi look better
@@bacon8686 Eto'o had a fantastic 2008-09 season under Pep. Pedro was great under Pep. And Henry was great under Pep in 08-09, including being very influential in the 6-2 El Clasico win.
reminds me of that window in time between Italys 2006 world cup win and Peps first CL trophy in 2009, were almost every single team in Europe played the same 4-2-3-1
I think the issue with peps system is the way he changes players can hurt the team.
Doku was brought so they have more dieectness in the squad when most of the squad is able to dribble past players before the pep effect
and now doku is literally just phasing out grealish cause he does that exact job but more consistently and so far less injuries
I think ange postecoglu could prove to be a manager that will change things around a bit, because tottenham have been playing football thats a lot more fun to watch
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Tottenham o Major trophy since 2008
@@benedictjajo he doesnt have to win anything to make things interesting
@@benedictjajo and Manchester City had zero major trophies in many decades before the Arabs bought them. What's your point?
@@benedictjajothe comment wasn’t about winning trophies. It was about playing football that’s good to watch.
Cicles. I've seen old Catenaccio, Mourinho, Joga bonito, Pep's Tiki-Taka, Madrid Counter, Klopp high press, Simeone having success in La Liga and 2 Champions finals playing Catenaccio... Like any trainer would say, at the end players win matches. Good players and a system for them to fit in.
Aside from home grown players, those who go into a Guardiola system should know what they're getting themselves into. Like was said, you become a cog in the machine. If that's all right with the player, then I don't see the issue. Would I rather see Ronaldinhos and Messi's pull a rabbit out of a hat? Sure, that's how I like to watch football. But playing chess on the pitch is also pleasing (for me at least). I enjoy seeing teams constricted and forced into a bunker. Everyone can talk about stopping the other team from playing their game, but if you're a team that has 55% + possession, and most of it is spent on your third of the pitch, that's uninspiring and just lazy.
Ancelotti does what he does best. Guardiola does what he does best. And they're both at the top of the game. Given the choice, I would want Ancelotti because it opens the door for more player expression. But Guardiola is equally as impressive. Every sport has a tactical pendulum. I think that at some point it will tilt back, and we will have the same discussion, only with instead of the machine, that players have too much agency on the pitch and managers do not rein them in. See Hulk in Brazilian Serie A.
Using your analogy id like to point out that if one cog fucks up his whole machine gets near ruined.
nice chess work for City in the UCL final against Dortmund!!
ngl, 2017-2019 man city at times had some of the most beautiful passages of play
sterling and sane era was very entertaining
ever since city got haaland their entire system has changed to be honest
@@d3w222 it's been the same boring possession style for years
@@Kevy808 how many long balls have they just played to him or more specifically kdb played to him during 22/23 season?
You said De Bruyne pretty well that one time in this video (Zealand - 9:51)
True, not bad at all for someone not used to making either the "r"- or the "ui"-sound. And otherwise as well, his usual "de Brown-e" is closer than everyone else's "de Broin-e".
For real, most the 'broine' pronounciation is cringe inducing😖🤢@@thomasvrielink299
Hey man I discovered your channel a month back, really like to listen to your takes while studying or doing anything. Thanks
TLDR ,if you are not Messi ,follow the plan unless you wanna be left out of the match squad ,Ibrahimović is probably the most known example .
Bernado silva is who really showed it for me at city, at Monaco and the national team what got me rating him was the way he drove with and dribbled the ball before picking out crazy passes, now he's waaaaay more safe compared to what ive seen him do(grealish too)
Guardiola is the man who got rid of Ronaldinho, Deco and Eto'o. It says everything you need to know about him. With that being said, Haaland is no Romário, he is "just" an exceptional goalscorer. Guardiola got rid of his deficiencies and kept only his main trait, leading to an extremely boring play style.
IMO, there are basically two types of manager. Those who want to control the whole team and those who want to control the defense and allow players to attack the way they see fit. I'm not saying it's "do what you want", but some managers allow attackers to roam around, find pockets where they can be more useful, take on defenders, shoot from a distance, try a more "flamboyant" play style. Guardiola is not that guy. He is extremely strict, Messi was basically the only exception. He is a control freak. I don't like managers like him, even though it's a fair way to play.
KDB, Messi and Muler are the exeptions.
Note he aways has one super creative player that he gives full freedom to in any of his teams.
He got rid of Ronaldinho and Deco because it was well known that they were party animals going out drinking multiple times a week.
Yeah but it's Messi dude never been a fan but Messi and Ronaldo is another level they don't count amongst thier peers@@stefankatsarov5806
@@Asshat237 they also won a Champions League together and are two of the best ever players. So what
@@carck6442 Guess what? Guardiola has won the champions league with his style too. So what.
Did Z ever say why he's cosplaying Ted Lasso?
Brazil 2026 will be crazy, relationism magic is coming BACK
tbf argentina 2022 already showed some signs on that direction,only with the intensity of argentine football rather than the flair
Brazil already replaced Diniz with Dorival.
@@gerryskeloor2865 but dorival does let his players have freedom on the pitch (answering as a flamengo fan)
Nope
I think that era is gone. Since all the youngsters head to europe before they have fully developed their game, they will eventually become robots. Vini is different palyer to when he joined. And brazil to win the wc they will have to adapt to play without that freedom.
This is something being talked about a lot in Portugal among coaches these last years how our players were losing their street soccer styled creativity(look at all wingers we used to have) cause youth academies focused so much on tactics (pretty much creating robots) and some youth academies have gone back and gave creativity importance again.
also coaches here been figuring out having these creative players are probably one of the solutions to break through these man city styled teams.
I’m a Milan fan and lots of other fans criticized Pioli for not having a “tactical system.” This is because he’s far more similar to Ancelotti in allowing his players to make the majority of the decisions. I’ve always noticed the types of freedoms the players get in his system than other teams. Unfortunately he didn’t win enough so he got the boot. We’ll see what the future holds with a different manager coming in
Guardiola and his consequences have been a disaster for football.
Football is just abit boring now compared to what it used to be, I could be extremely bias / nostalgic though. But it lacks the characters that used to make it so much better.
This is why i love players like mudryk or nuñez or someone like antony, atleast they have characters and not some generic ahh ppl
Pep's systems are some of the most yawn inducing, boring styles of plays possible, especially against teams with any decent defence or tactical style. United completely negated City and only struggled when Doku came on and decided to just run at the defence and caused them tonnes of trouble.
Calling it boring is genuinely such a horrible statement. Not liking the man I understand hating his club absolutely fair but calling his style and tactics boring is just not factual. I don’t like city I think they are an honest to god robbers and an oil club but I love watching their games same with arsenal it’s honestly unfair to say “boring”
@@issaosama4937its ok to like it, but its really boring in the way that they just pass till they find space. you dont see ones twos like arsenal die in the day, or fast switching or whatever. their matches have high intensity and sometimes are really enjoyable, but calling them boring isnt a strech. you are you, i am i, but i find bo4ing seeing 80 possesion and 2 shots
@@gligodrearsenal and man city have the best attacks in the pl tho. And sometimes its boring mostly because the opponent parks the bus not because they want to play that way
4 in a row 🤫🤫🤫
United negated? 🤡🤡🤡 The city team they beat were hardly playing at their peak
Guardiola is doing to Haaland what he did to Ibrahimovic. If Haaland was smart he'd leave and get his career back before it's too late. Haaland needs crosses, direct running, a completely different style to Guardiola. Note: only reply to this post if you know what happened between Guardiola and Ibrahimovic.
he learns alot and is shooting a ton of goals ... its just pep has a boring system
fck are u talkin bout haaland is not good at crossing despite being 6.5ft
he needs through passes he needs cutbacks he need yards front of him
if he values stats yes go to another club but if he values winning if he values himself he should stay
yeah that’s why he’s not got 2 golden boots and why he didn’t break the premier league record last season
@@Soumik_Mondal_fullstack_dev Yea dude needs to work on timing his jumps, losing aerial duals to martinez is simply embarrassing.
@@Soumik_Mondal_fullstack_devgotta be the dumbest comment I’ve seen today. He’s putting up some of his best numbers at city. He’ll leave if he cares more about the game than winning
The Man City vs Real Madrid quarter-final was a good example of what you’re touching on at the end, the system vs individuality dichotomy, and which of the two is sacrificed for the other. As best as I can understand Alonso’s system seems like it doesn’t sacrifice individuality in the same way it does in a Guardiola-esque system. On that, I cannot wait for the City vs Leverkusen matchup next champions league!
Ahhh because pens had nothing to do with who won 🤡
@@NeoSpacian1237 I’m not saying anything about who deserved to win that game, just pointing out the difference in priorities between system and individuality.
@@charlesfavreau2949I think you're being disingenuous about Real Madrid because we all know that they have this dark aura to win games no matter what in the Champions League look at how Bayern Munich lost to them in the semi-final
@@Emperor-Inker I'm literally not talking about whether Real Madrid deserved to win any round this Champions League. I am just pointing out the style/system differences between them and City, because It thought it was relevant to the video. It's wild how much people will purposefully misinterpret what has actually been said.
@@NeoSpacian1237 Madrid played good despite that and OP didn't mention which played better moron
"they're just not good enough" that's a great point. In basketball, midrange shots have cratered, BUT the guys who are amazing at them still take them. It's the guys who simply weren't good enough who got limited. Exciting creative difficult stuff will always be valuable...if you're good enough at it. And as a sport gets optimized people figure out that very very few guys are.
Also football is weird because the insane financial and quality disparities that you don't see in the NBA, like I'm sure NBA guys could get away doing so much stuff they don't normally do if they got to play against college teams half the time.
Funny enough, we already see this happening real time to Doku. Watch the way he dribbles from the start of the season to the fa cup final
Pochettino used to play in that way where individual talents shined through.
Its the same thing as in MMA. Dagistani wrestlers are so fucking boring. However what they do works and is the most effective way to win.
Before them was the leg kick meta which is the same to be fair.
Haalland got injured in BVB, in the last season. He was never like himself after that. He was NOT sent through with long-balls anymore and had to be a target more often.
You can compare it with Torres in Chelsea.
I just wanted to let you know. I love to watch Dortmund as a fan and analyse the tactics, also team management is something I look out for :)
Good luck with team management
12:53 Ange Postecoglou teams are always the best to watch. His Celtic side played some of the best football I’ve ever seen. Celtic absolutely mauled Real Madrid at Celtic Park in the UCL for about 70 minutes but didn’t take their chances (actually missed open goals 🤦♂️) then Madrid took their first real chance.
His Spurs side were great until the players remembered they are Spurs players and reverted to type.
Ehh, Ange's first season is always rocky wherever he goes. I expect him to do well with Spurs, like how he has always done better in his 2nd season with the club he arrives at.
It's going to be exciting seeing what he does with a club at the height of Spurs, when things begin to properly click in an ange team.
@@nok9979 I watched his side for two years. I now that claim. He completely rebuilt Celtic in two windows and smashed a rangers side that had won the league by 25 points the year before.
Ange admitted the spurs players and staff haven’t bought into his vision. He needs most of a new squad in the summer to start moving forward. Depends if levy has sold him a lemon or if he genuinely backs Ange. There’s no way Ange told the board he wanted timo Werner.
The entire point of sport is for entertaining and passion,winning is not what sport is about.Winning fuels the business.
Lol
Fun Fact for you, Z: Yesterday marked 20 years since a team from outside the Top 4 of European Leagues won the UCL.
Top 5? You mean
@@akunwanneprosper7016top 4
Ligue 1 is not even top5 league, top5 is fucking brazil
Alonso seems to loosen the screws a bit already
The lack of mention of Klopp's ability to win at a high level while also retaining some of his players' individuality within the system is wild in this video.
The machine requires sacrifices. You may not be where you want to be but you are where you need to be.
5:54 second ever ENGLISH treble., Zealand.
Celtic won all five trophies, including the Champions Cup in 1967.
I'm pretty sure he meant that. Many teams have won trebles before even if your talking about domestic trebles
I saw somebody saying other day that If Pep were a kennel manager, the dogs would stop barking. I laughed so much but that got me thinking.
My solution is simple and effective; i watch mid-table games, conference cup and if i could, due to time zones, i could watch Brazilian league.
Premier League appointment viewing is when Olise and Eze are both on the field for Crystal Palace
Dude, watch season review for 92-93-94 Man United. So many super fast and technical players - Kanchelskis, Sharpe, Giggs, some cameos from Beckham, Scholes... Cantona of course...
Football has lost its magic since pep gourdiola has taken the lead seat. All of the managers are doing nearly the same what pep does.
His system is one of the best and wins which the coaches job is to win
@@haydaboss231the coaches job is to help the team win, not to win.
Also in the coaches job is to please the fans and orquestrate the show. Or do you forgot football was called the Show Sport before?
@@Malam_NightYoru lmao, you are out of your mind if you think the coach's job is to do anything other than win matches
Logic not logicing@@Malam_NightYoru
Pep do a great job, he got paid to win and he does his job properly..
In the future when pep is not coaching you gonna blame other good manager for the same sh*t
I started watching football very late in my life. For the first time i watched any football seriously was 2006 world cup and there were so many superstars at that time and i immediately fell in love with the game but also watched so many matches pre 2006 on TH-cam and one thing i can guarantee that intensity and entrainment of 90s and early 2000s football was unmatched. Maybe today's footballer are fitter and have strong basics that than the previous generation of footballers but nobody match the flair, but there were so many football players who couldn't pass properly and had no flair but they were good at what they were supposed to do and entrainment came from unpredictability of the game ,you didn't know what kind of goal you gonna see what magic going to happen. There was a time i used to watch lower divisions of football for just the sake of entertainment because of the atmosphere they had and entertaining long ball football 😁 because they can't play like Guardiola even if they want because quality was not there. In recent years Man City and Liverpool had great games in term of entertainment but all the credit goes to klopp and his style of play but these matches are not norm but exception. But every season there will be new teams you can follow for the sake of their entertainment value so enjoy football as much you can before it becomes boring but i hope that there will be revival of entertaining football again because we are seeing new coaches coming who don't try to imitate Guardiola but play their own brand of football.
At first score one and sit back was boring, now suffocating teams while constantly attacking is boring, the whole concept of boring is such a ridiculous argument. If your team wins it’s entertaining else it’s not.
Being honest, even though Pep's tactics are supposed to make City tactically superior, those limitations that are forced onto the players make the play too one-dimensional and easy for the opposition to read, creating situations where Ten Hag actually outcoached Guardiola.
Have you heard about Fernando Diniz’s Flumenense style of football called relationalism which may be the reaction towards Guardiola system. It takes Ancelotti positive vibe to the next level (Ancelotti is a hybrid of positional play and relationisn where the defenders maintain fixed position but attacking players have freedom to interact as they see fit). This is the reaction against the fixed positional play of European football where the system is to encourage players taking creative freedom. This has been adopted in Europe by Malmo FF which has won the Swedish league last season. If Malmo FF are successful in europe next season this may well spread further.
People in pro sports forget they are in the entertainment industry. Manchester City is the perfect modern example of this. You have infinity money, you should be Galactico'ing it and playing the most pleasing possible style while you are winning. "The System ™" is only for underdogs and overachievers.
But you also forget that these people are in the business industry. Its business first
I didn't follow la liga so the first time i actually followed pep's football was during his time at bayern, his football was BORING as hell and i absolutely hated it (until kovac and tuchel shown us worse), and he was getting thrashed by real and barca anyway so i didn't get the point of him killing every player's personality just to fit in his little fantasy tiki taka back then.
obviously he has got that sorted out over all these years at city, his perfectly engineered machine is running better and better everyday, but still, it is boring and not fun to watch.
you can kinda expect what will happen in the match just by looking at his team sheet, even the tinkers and fumble he will make when it comes to big matches..
don't even bring up the man city v arsenal game. pep vs little pep brought us easily the most boring "big match" in a while.
Ah yes the classic, pep matches are boring. How do you expect a entertaining game when one team sets up 11 men behind the ball and play for a draw😂
I still remember most Bayern fans were not happy with Guardiola because before that they played a totally different type of football. Jupp Heynckes was a totally different manager than Guardiola and they were winning matches in the German way. Most people still consider pep recruitment was not only bad for Bayern but also for Germany because they lost their German way of playing in the long run.
it gets my juices flowing when zealand says de bruyne
It's been a long damn time now, but generally speaking Pep's Barca were viewed as very aesthetically pleasing. Messi with his dominant dribbling, the passing and ball control of Xavi and Iniesta, the link-up between Messi and Alves, the high pressing.... The problem is that after that dominant stretch by Barca, most teams decided just to put 10 guys behind the ball against Pep teams ... to which I ask, do you think it would be smart for any of his midfielders or forwards to just start hucking 40 yard shots? No, they are going to keep the ball until they find an opening.
9:40 I thought this was a Strongbad Email for a second
I've been saying something like this for a while, good to hear it articulated from another perspective. As a Villa fan, obviously I loved having a player as good and and as exciting as Grealish at the club I support and I was gutted when he left, but there was also a definite element of "he's earned a move to the big stage" so I wasn't too sorry to see him go. But I was absolutely gutted that he was going to City - exactly because I knew Pep would take a generationally exciting, dynamic, individual dynamo of a player and smash and bend him into a cog in a system.
As you say, it works, it wins more, it's inevitable, but it also takes away from the game. I think the sport is better with Grealishes and Ronaldinhos and Maradonas (not that Grealish compares to the latter to in levels, but stylistically) even if Pep-style systems are more effective. I've honestly never bought the "how good is the football they play to watch" line that the pundits spout about City - the talent and discipline is phenomenal but they're usually a pretty boring team to watch, unless they're on a tear and putting 7 past a team.
Grealish's outputs at Villa were vastly overestimated. He's not really doing that much different now. 7 seasons as a first team regular and he scored more than 6 goals once.
Whilst I see your point , I think it’s the flair aspect , the ‘intangibles’ if you will , that people are referring to with regards to Grealish’s situation
If outputs were all that mattered then the Maradona / Pele debate for all those decades wouldn’t have been a debate
Goal numbers aren’t the be all end all on how good a player is. I mean hazard had how many seasons with a ton of goals and assists but that doesn’t mean his output and importance is bad.
oh no, the guy that watches football in the bet365 came 😂
@@emekaoguguo5023grealish is just massively overrated, idk why people even bring him up as one of the flair players it's a joke
@@Adrian-fj7bd because he very much was one at Aston Villa
Whether you rate him or not , doesn’t really matter change that fact
He’s playing a different role now
Which part of florida are you from. All the Tampa talk means your bay area and me and you are the same age and you look very familiar, I'm from st pete and have been trying to connect the dots
The pilosophy is why i am an Ajax fan in the first place. Great attacking football , 4-3-3, and relying on the youth system. The youth players are developed according to the Cruyff philosophy. That's why the players that leave do not always succeed and that is why you can't buy and fit in every player. When everything clicks it looks amazing, if it does not it is awfull. Pep Guardiola is a great coach who took the Cruijff philosophy to an extreme. That's why we see great football, but if you take a look at the players individual it is not that special and not every player you buy will fit and flourish. People need to stop blaming managers, cause i think that is the real problem.
8:35 i see what you did there Z
I think Lionel Scaloni showed the world beautiful, aesthetically pleasing -- and WINNING -- football in the World Cup 2022 with Argentina.
Halaand is a fucking ghost in big matches. He literally doesn't have a single goal in any final he's played for man city in.
do you even watch football?
hes been there for two years, how many finals did he play?
@@snuffmeister6720 4
@@snuffmeister6720UCL, 2x FA Cup, club world cup, Super cup. Not sure if he's scored in any of these I'm just listing them.
He has played 9 finals and semifinals, not a single goal contribution
Honestly I would love the idea of a „fight of the night“ award decided by fanvoting for the most satisfying match of the day. Incentives the teams to bring the show back the football. I would love that
if it envolves fanvoting, whoever has more supporters wins anyway.
No joke, just as you said "I think the something they're onto is that" (4:03), an ad for the game Destiny 2: The Final Shape started, with the narrator stating: "Corruption, spreading through the traveller".
Even the TH-cam adtech algorithm knows 😏
NBA vaguely has this similar conversation abut 3-pointers, pick & roll, and shot diet.
Same thing with our coach at Gent, although he got results, creative players lost their touch. Everything for his system. But the football was boring imo. We won a title and a cup under his reign yet I'm glad he is gone.
Haaland is an amazing goal scorer but his ghosting in big games definitely needs to be addressed if he ever wants to be in that Balon D’Or convo. Guys like Vinicius and Mbappe will always be higher on the pecking order for that award because they always show up for the clubs and/or national teams. I do feel for him though cause of all the teams he could’ve went to he chose the one team that wasn’t going to play directly into his strengths .
Zealeandiam is the goat
The 9:50ish your pronounciation of KDB was really good actually, dueces
9:50 that's how you say it at least closer to 'browner' that 'broiner', as a Dutch person I cringe at the way most English speakers say it😖
we are currently seeing that it’s more important that players choose their happiness over the „better“ team. And Dortmund seems to be the best example with haaland, sancho and probably even more
Unlike Haaland and Sancho, Bellingham gets all the freedom he wants at Real Madrid.
Never watched him in dortmund , but sems like he seen LA Liga best player this season.
Bro Bellingham is on the verge of winning the Balón d’or in Madrid, he’s been way better there, but you’re correct about the other two.
@@konradnicholasnel262 all the champions league games I’ve seen he’s… well not been THAT good
Apart from the other two, Bellingham is brilliant at Real this season playing under Ancelotti's flexible tactics. Ancelotti is an adaptive manager and takes individual approach to his players to let them express their abilities while keeping the team solid and functioning. You can see Bellingham becoming more prolific this season as he's able to roam around the attacking third area to make dribbles and take shots.
I've noticed this in the Arsenal fanbase with Arteta sort of making our team like a machine in the City mold. Some people say he's stifling the creative freedom and making it less fun. My response is: "winning is fun"
I think the case of Doku is funnier. He looks like a gridiron running back with his very predictable break throughs dribbles
It's more that opposing teams put 11 men behind the ball against City. Grealish and Haaland played counter attacking football at Villa and Dortmund so had more space to run past players which is automatically more exciting
and that's why we have to cherish every match Carletto provides us
As a team pep is right with winning above all else but as a fan it’s more fun to see players being more creative and maximizing their potential
Nice moustache. Did you grow it for your Grindr profile?
Pep plays the most boring passing football, makes every player a soulless robot bar a few handful and still has to cheat to win. The sooner he goes to manage Spain or whatever the better.
spain is a cheater already regardless, it will fit him very much
with what you said tactics may not be your thing but a couple youtubers dissected the city arsenal draw and it shows there was a lot more depth than just the most boring scoreless game and both managers had interesting plans especially defensively and you may find a new appreciation for tactics and defensiveness
@@d3w222don't care and most people don't either, we don't want coaches to be the protagonist. The game is much better when the players are the protagonists
@@Adrian-fj7bd i think somwhere in between is best
Whether it's attacking football or defensive, Pep Guardiola or José Mourinho, or anything in between like Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Flick, Klopp, Conte...they believe in collective work, they think the team is more important than the individual players and they acquire players that fit their system and their idea. Personally I'm in favor of that approach and it brings more long term success. When a coach has an individualistic approach there's a higher risk of problems in the locker room and some players becoming entitled divas, which pisses off the other players who run for them and do the dirty work so the stars can shine. If the stars get too entitled, the other players won't do the dirty work and then those stars won't shine.
The reason Haaland seemed more creative at Dortmund is because he had much more space in front of him there, where he could make use of his explosivity. That's not gonna happen if you play for a team against whom everyone is playing a 9-0-1 formation.
Same happened to Riad Mahrez.
Ronaldinho is the most talented player ever. You don't just find the next one, you just hope that you live to see someone else like him. We were extremely fortunate to have him and Messi back to back. We will have great players to enjoy, the great Mbappes of the world, but players to be considered at the level of Pele and Maradona, you don't just go out and find them.
Dutch utilizes combination of vowels for different sounds.
Simple example.
ie = I more or less.
Ui = what you said. uy is pronounced the same.(brUYne could easily be written as "bruine" which by the way means "the brown one")
Eu, ij, sch, ei, ou, au, etc. are a few others.
Er is niet echt een Engels woord waar je dezelfde klank uit kan halen als 'ui.'
@@GansHanders I'm aware. As I said, it's more or less how he pronounced it.
It even took Sterling a few months to start running at fullbacks like he used to i think pep takes the magic out of players I think players will get the best of both worlds with ancelloti's philosophy it gives players especially the attacking players while maintaining structure with midfielders and defenders
Fergie had room for mavericks, that's where the game has "gone" . Berbatov, Cantona even CR7. Guardiola buys players who fit the system, with no need or room for players such as those mentioned. Its plain boring.
Zealand this is the best take I have seen on Haaland, Pep and City etc. Really well spoken
I miss the frog and the lamp
The biggest problem in European football is inequality. You can pretty much guarantee, with the odd exception, who will win each league. And the gulf between the top clubs and everyone else makes it utterly predictable and boring.
Yup. That's why, despite being a european, i prefer American sports. Yes there are top teams in the big 4 leagues but the gap is much, much smaller and those top teams fall off alot more regularly. For comparison, the Patriots were the dominate force in the NFL for about 20 years and won a record tieing 6 superbowls...Man City have won 6 prems in the last 7 years.
@@chrisscott2009 yep, much more equal
yes let’s randomize who wins every year that will give club owners much more incentive to try harder and spend more money when the chance of them winning gets even lower
@@d3w222 I mean if you own a premier league club that is not City, Arsenal, Liverpool (throw them in because why not even though Klopp's departure will make things nebulous), what is the incentive to spend to win? You have basically no chance as well. There's already no incentive if you're looking at it solely from the perspective of spending money to have a shot at the league.
@@iJxlly look at leicester city man. you know how much money they made from their run? those athletes and managers and every employee like medical staff are practically set for life from that 1 season. thats why you try. every athletes dream is to win and or make the grind and athlete lifestyle profitable and doing something like that accomplishes both
I think until entertaining flair Football brings in more revenue than utilitarian result grinding this is where Football is. At the end of the day fans are happier when they win rather than if there was Flair and Creativity that produced no product. I fell in love with the Pass and Move era of the Game as typified by Kenny Dalgleish's Teams and Dutch Total Football really captured my imagination for how the game could be played but now we are into the marginal gains of Moneyball Exploiting what players do flawlessly and avoiding where they might make mistakes.
I'm sorry but if you move your further Zealand looks like a deputy cop. (The shirt with the stars and the mustache)😂😂😅
Please talk about Newcastle vs A League all stars
It's Hilarious I promise you 😂
at least football is less ruined than that mustache that clearly doesnt work
personally I really like this style it creates the best TEAM output
Do you want to win something? Then fall in line and learn the game plan from Pep. Do you want to have flair and do things that dont necessarily contribute to winning? City isnt the place for you. Only a couple players get that license bc they are good at it. Doku and Foden have more license to do what they want but I promise if either of them started going a little too crazy and started giving the ball away too much or being too selfish then they'd get benched. For Pep you are a cog in the system and he gives you as much freedom as is necessary to win. Nothing more, nothing less.
man.. just imagine a right footed arjen robenn.. that one hit deep.
I think that the problem with Haaland at Man City is that his role doesn't allow him to show his best ya know he's got more to his game than just finishing but that's all he does. He's a tight end playing striker he has the ability to run people over and score worldies
So, you hope football might 'autocorrect' itself, it's a possibility. What I hope is that these big time players don't go to play to these superduperultrastacked teams full of top tier players at almost every position that just cripple their game, their minutes, their role, and instead stay with the teams that made them someone, get better, bring joy and maybe wins against the odds, stories. I don't know. Is it good for the sport that Real Madrid has 20 ballon d'or candidates in their roster? It's sickening.
This is why the top of the league isn't the most interesting. They have the best players, they value consistency and lack of risk. If you drop to the middle tier teams, they have good players but they know if they play a low risk meta style they will lose, the top teams have better players. The optimum way to play a bit lower down can vary a lot, teams can try something with a bit more risk knowing that it just takes one goal.
I absolutely love this channel 👌
He's gone crazy with the upload schedule
They want footballers to be jacks of all trades but master of none. It has slowly made its way up the pitch from keeper position to defenders now to strikers. Every movement is predicated on keeping the ball in stead of shot stopping, defending, and skill attacking at the very least those skill sets take back seat. Some players this suits mostly midfield type players from guys like Iniesta and Xavi to Foden and KDB. Made highlights fun but full 90 can be snooze fests imo.