The thing is: a Leslie live in the room with you sounds different from a recorded Leslie, which is what we're obviously getting here listening to it on our computer. A recorded Leslie and a simulator like the Ventilator will almost sound the same because in both cases the sound is coming from our fixed speakers. But play each one live in a room and the acoustic tremolo effect produced by the Leslie will be obvious because it is produced by the sound literally being projected in all directions by the spinning rotors. Our ears are directional and can't be fooled by a fixed speaker that a simulator will be playing through. We are so used to hearing recorded Leslies that the sound of this will always sound familiar to the significant majority of people who have never heard a live Leslie. But an organ player who is used to to the live Leslie effect won't be fooled as easily, especially if he's deriving his inspiration from the unique 3-D ambiance created by the Leslie.
Amazing how harsh people are being on this product. This product is definitely a must have. I use to play organ (on a motif) on the road. There wasnt always a hammond in every church/venue. Id definitely get this if i still played.....its not the real deal but simply......an organ in a box that can fit right in a bag n get the job done
This is a reply to Guy Lavoie’s comment below. Years ago I worked as a musician with a Hammond A100 and Leslie 122, and even the guitarists I worked with (they tend to be hung up on themselves) could not help but acknowledge that nothing they could play could rival my Hammond/Leslie combination for its beauty and purity of tone. I lived with the Hammond/Leslie sound forever and even now in retirement I never tire of it. My response to this video of a Leslie simulator could never explain as clearly the paradox Guy Lavoie brings to our attention in his comment: What we hear during our TH-cam sessions, even those played over fancy home theater sound systems, can never replicate the three-dimensional sound projection of a mechanical Leslie speaker. In a real-time environment where you are listening from several feet away, the organ sound projected by the Leslie’s rotating speakers seems to be coming from everywhere. Because it is! I would go even further and claim that the tone-wheel generation of Hammond organs, which created a genuine sound - a perfect sine wave - that was presented to the player as eight different harmonics, each adjustable in volume by a drawbar, can never be fully replicated digitally. Even Hammond couldn’t do it when their drawbar organs were not selling well and they went all-digital- Hammond went bankrupt trying to create that absolutely use sine wave using digital technology. For the past three decades I’ve worked in tech, and am aware of the inevitability of digital technology producing a sound undetectable from a Hammond/Leslie combo. But for me it STILL wouldn’t be the same! And I’m grateful I won’t be here to hear it. Some primal sense we all are born with knows bullshit when we hear it!
this is a great piece, that we need to add to our C3 in our Church since our Leslie burnt out and stopped working. plus I see now in a lot of big churches, they actually hide the Leslie or have the Leslie in some type of small booth or closet and just Mic it so it will be controlled and through the sound system. with the ventilator or with the mini vent, you don't have to do that at all, you just connect it right into the sound system or the speaker and you're set to go.
This is a great pedal. I just got one, and it makes the organs in my Korg SV1 sound fantastic. It is a completely different instrument as a result. I used it last night at an acoustic gig, and had my acoustic guitar going through it for a few songs. It sounded incredible.
@sigiriuk It's not designed so much to replace a leslie more like substitute. You can use it along with your leslie or alone. It also is MUCH more efficent than trying to mic the to and bottom.
Thank you"57"...I agree...although live on stage, I can "hide" behind the other instruments. ...... Not to shabby...not too shabby at all...thanks guys...
How well do you think it would work with a tonewheel organ and a PR-40 (non rotary) tone cabinet? Would the interface box allow it to be used thusly? thx in advance
That was pretty cool. I thought the 'crunch' was lacking a bit on the low end, although I realize between a camera video and TH-cam that mileage will vary. My only real pick is that I'd have the speakers together, since a single Leslie isn't in two places at once - I'm sure it's still a great effect, but I would stack the speakers as a single source point. Great playing as well.
Ant Tuck...I saw you in this video and was wondering if I could get an answer to an important question from you. Do you know the name of that Hammond interface the guy mentioned at about 1:10 in the video? God bless!
Excuse me my good sir...Would you be so kind as to name that "Hammond Interface" mentioned at about 1:10? I'm contemplating grabbing this product after raising the funds.
I just bought an original Vent. My only wish is that it had a cabinet resonance simulation (w/adjustment); then it would be absolutely perfect... as opposed to just plain old dull perfect.
Yes You need to cut down the level of the Oregon if you know how to put a potentiometer in and cut it down like maybe 10 K I’ll get a hold of Mike smoke with a trek2 and get his little kid he makes to hook it up the ventilator he just go and send it into a guitar amp keyboard amp something like that
Thanks we have a hammond M3 and are looking to go this route since we don't have a leslie. Also is there a way to reach out personally for farther questions?
Its depend on speaker You use...If Hammond is connected to ventilator its very important what kind of PA speakers You have and how does its sounds... Sometimes there is to many high frequencies or bass...low bass under 80 hz... Leslie doesnt produce 30 hz or 18 khz...Maybe try to connect ventilator to Leslie speaker and amp but on stopped rotors?
While you cannot beat a real Leslie the ventilator can come pretty close especially in a recording environment when you can finesse the eq and add speaker emulation etc. The version 2 (it is version 1 being reviewed) is better as it has more tonal control.
I wanted to like this device, as I used to help my best friend lug an 825...then later a 147..around. The approach seems good; my only complaint is that the tibia tone seems a trifle synthetic compared to the true rotating speaker. I was reasonably impressed with the dropback from tibia to chorale. I see a lot of potential for use with other instruments, know a lot of guitar players that are dying to get their hands on one. It may not be a giant leap forward but it is definitely a step in the right direction.
The Ventilator sound really close to a leslie but its missing some needed ingredients to make that sound. when Listening to the B-3 with122 leslie, It more pure and one can hear the wind from the leslie. The Venitlator sound good but it amplifies the tonewheels to much which makes the organ have a ratty pinging sound in the upper part of the keyboard. ITs like and amplified type writer tapping a constant speed. The good thing I can say about it is that the tone color is there.
The Neo Ventilator is seriously impressive sounding. I'd have no problem using in place of a Leslie. Sure, it doesn't sound quite as good as the real thing. But I've played through poorly cared for Leslies that didn't sound as good as this Vent. And if you're a gigging musician with a bad back...#justsaying.
I've got a 1948 CV, 147 and a digital xk3 rig. Leslies can be fussy as i'm sure you know and when the horn blows, contacts from the cable go, sub goes, capacitor starts popping, the neo is a great back up. I'd never use it in a studio, but a mackie and a neo fit in the trunk of a toyota for pick up gigs. let's be fair, a leslie does not make a casio sound like a hammond. maybe a korg...haha. And please, link me to a leslie for 600 bones. I'll buy it.
@AntTuck I also will agree its tough to beat the sound of a real leslie on a strong organ, but If I had to do it with this ventilator thing I wouldn't feel like I was suffering!! LOL!!
@@organguru Thanks. Just looking at this stuff on Thomann: Not expensive. Love your playing. I bought the vent on the strebgth of your review. I have the vent 2. It's great. Thanks again.
OK, I'm detecting zero non-synchronous speed change. When a Leslie is switched between slow and fast, the treble horn responds REAL quickly. The bass reflector, not so quick. Similar, when slowing down. When you can duplicate THAT, you have a decent copy. (Also, the mechanics on a Leslie make sound. That should be duplicated, as well.) steve
The NEO comes pretty close..Recording this type of audio with a camera mic is not goodness at all. All middle sounds no bass. The NEO seemed to brighten up the higher notes more than the Leslie...going back to that old problem with solid state and that metal sound...human ears like that mellow tube sound
As good as a synthetic gets but no, not as smooth as a Leslie. Having owned and gigged with many Hammond and Leslie combos the only advantage this has is over the Rotosonic models eg HL822 with them taking an age to spool up and wind down, the traditional Leslie effect, and one which characterises so much organ music this Neo has an advantage. Don't think I'll be hurrying to add one to my A100!
I have one of these and a Leslie. Anybody who doesn’t see the value of this thing hasn’t actually used one. No it’s not a Leslie but at a fraction of the price and space it’s a GREAT alternative. Anyone expecting this to go blow for blow with a real Leslie is delusional. Also anyone who thinks it’s worthless because it’s not a exact copy is also delusional.
To me the neo Ventilator sounds ok, maybe a little gritty. The real issue as i see it is this: why would anyone buy a Neo V, a hammond 11pin convertor, 5+ cables, one PSU for the NeoV, and then two 40lb mackie speakers+2 power cables....isnt it easier to buy a real leslie, 3300, or even a 2101 mk2 - one box, one audio cable, and one power cable.
Well hopefully the little electronic box is way cheaper than a real Leslie, so if you can't afford a Leslie, the Ventilator would be better than nothing, (I guess). People who don't know what a Leslie sounds like would never know the difference.
This is no great revelation .... The Roland ToneWorks G5 Rotary Simulator that I used on an XB2 in the late 90' does everything this does and sounded every bit as good . The overdrive on the G5 was better . It had a dedicated on/off button which would give the sound a little preamp kick without breaking it up ... a dedicated footswitch let you kick the overdrive in and out on the fly. Also had a memory function , the dials would remember a favorite setting once you set them.... Also had a stationary setting if you wanted the rotors to stop ... and it wasn't an in/out function. It would stop somewhere in rotation, not always the same spot . Nice toy ..... Nothing new here ...... If Hammond has one of these or Roland, possibly Nord .... it would be better .
@@keithjohnson6784 Sorry ... Korg .... Don't know how I mixed it up considering how long I had it .... It was $500. way back then, but it was the best. In fact for those who remember Korg had a whole G Series line of pedals basically set up for guitar. The all had the same physical layout but did different things. For the mid 90's finding it was a diamond in the rough !
nope....it just isnt the same....it sounds all mushed together to me....you get an ambience with the Leslie and its just not there.. The gentleman playing is SO good it's easy to forget, but those powered speakers lose some of the excitement for me.
Its probably going to sound ok using a single mike but surely any Doppler speaker can only be appreciated when the listener is standing in the room this thing is simple mimicking the variable speeds and pitch bending that is created by the rotating elements of the real thing....anyway it's name ie "ventilator" makes it sound like some sort of medical equipment!
it's absolutely possible to fully emulate the sound of a real leslie with solid state hardware. But it would be prohibitively expensive, moreso than a real leslie.
Uhuh ... if you mean perfectly emulate a real Leslie (a tube leslie) sound with SS hardware , then why don't you do it ... ? SS amps don't perfectly emulate tube amps, so you have lots of products that will make you very wealthy to get making, if you can actually do it ... and you probably wouldn't be here talking to people on YT, if you could ...
sounds like every other Leslie demo....... (LOUD AND UN INTERESTING???? LOL! ......ijs...) Can someone please do something thats not ugly distorted preacher chords, boring "heard it all before jazz riffs.
Why do these demo's always have gross over-embellished jazz? Why not "Whiter Shade of Pale" or some other well-known piece so we can get a better idea of how it compares?
Because organ encompasses a whole lot more than just classic rock! Besides, this is not "over-embellished jazz", its gospel!!!!!!! I would think any musician would know the difference....
Terry Hayes 1. This is a demonstration here ... so it should allow the listener to be able to relate it to something? 2. The underlying definition of "jazz" is free-flowing "improvisation"; it can have expression in many different genres .... including Gospel ... any musician would know that! Please don't tell me he is playing from sheet music ... most of those notes are spontaneous improvisations .... i.e. this is version of "jazz". It can never be compared to anything because there is just too much going on on the keyboard. From the point of a technical demo IMO he would have been better playing and comparing simple chords and sequences, not displaying his keyboard prowess; that is my point. I doubt if many are familiar with what he plays here, unlike the example simple demo I suggested in which the reverse would be the case. The video is entitled ".... hearing is believing" ... I'm not sure what I'm hearing? Its like me slamming lots of notes down on my upright piano, then doing the same with a Steinway as a means of comparison. So, IMO this is "over-embellished" for what it is trying to convey. I do not wish to argue the merit of one style of music over another.
SearchBucket2 1. Yes, I am sure many of the organists who play gospel music can relate to this demo just fine! Lots of folks play this type of music. 2. Lots of musical forms use "free flowing improvisation" but that doesn't necessarily make them "jazz". Phish and the whole jam band scene are all about "free flowing improvisation". While the incorporate elements of many forms including jazz, no one would consider them to be a jazz band. Gospel music is all about "free flowing improvisation". Countless churches on Sunday morning play without music and "go with the Spirit". While they too incorporate elements of jazz, Gospel music isn't jazz. Neo also offer demos of their products in a jazz setting. Perhaps they should also do a demo as you suggested so that players of all styles can get a feel for what their products can do.
Terry Hayes Great explanation Terry! Bottom line like you said, Gospel music is NOT Jazz. You laid it out pretty well so I can save some text lol. I am a Gospel Musician btw.
+VGSoundtrackGuy He sounds like one of those musicians who can only play what is on a sheet..like a robot..all mechanics no real feeling or talent just taught..spoon fed theory..Improvising to him is like slapping his mother. It's like Terry insulted him lol. There's nothing like Gospel because, everything stems from it therefore it can incorporate almost every style of music...I'm also Gospel Musician.
I really don't like it. :( It's a great idea in theory, but it just doesn't cut it for me. To my ears, it doesn't sing...it shrieks (and not in a good way).
Eric, I'm shocked at how natural that thing sounded!!! This is a great option and addition for anyone serious about a good sounding organ!
The thing is: a Leslie live in the room with you sounds different from a recorded Leslie, which is what we're obviously getting here listening to it on our computer. A recorded Leslie and a simulator like the Ventilator will almost sound the same because in both cases the sound is coming from our fixed speakers. But play each one live in a room and the acoustic tremolo effect produced by the Leslie will be obvious because it is produced by the sound literally being projected in all directions by the spinning rotors. Our ears are directional and can't be fooled by a fixed speaker that a simulator will be playing through. We are so used to hearing recorded Leslies that the sound of this will always sound familiar to the significant majority of people who have never heard a live Leslie. But an organ player who is used to to the live Leslie effect won't be fooled as easily, especially if he's deriving his inspiration from the unique 3-D ambiance created by the Leslie.
I totally agree, but I'd even say that the real speaker is better in this video too. It just has a more delicate, glassy sound
Amazing how harsh people are being on this product. This product is definitely a must have. I use to play organ (on a motif) on the road. There wasnt always a hammond in every church/venue. Id definitely get this if i still played.....its not the real deal but simply......an organ in a box that can fit right in a bag n get the job done
This is a reply to Guy Lavoie’s comment below.
Years ago I worked as a musician with a Hammond A100 and Leslie 122, and even the guitarists I worked with (they tend to be hung up on themselves) could not help but acknowledge that nothing they could play could rival my Hammond/Leslie combination for its beauty and purity of tone. I lived with the Hammond/Leslie sound forever and even now in retirement I never tire of it.
My response to this video of a Leslie simulator could never explain as clearly the paradox Guy Lavoie brings to our attention in his comment: What we hear during our TH-cam sessions, even those played over fancy home theater sound systems, can never replicate the three-dimensional sound projection of a mechanical Leslie speaker. In a real-time environment where you are listening from several feet away, the organ sound projected by the Leslie’s rotating speakers seems to be coming from everywhere. Because it is!
I would go even further and claim that the tone-wheel generation of Hammond organs, which created a genuine sound - a perfect sine wave - that was presented to the player as eight different harmonics, each adjustable in volume by a drawbar, can never be fully replicated digitally. Even Hammond couldn’t do it when their drawbar organs were not selling well and they went all-digital- Hammond went bankrupt trying to create that absolutely use sine wave using digital technology.
For the past three decades I’ve worked in tech, and am aware of the inevitability of digital technology producing a sound undetectable from a Hammond/Leslie combo. But for me it STILL wouldn’t be the same! And I’m grateful I won’t be here to hear it. Some primal sense we all are born with knows bullshit when we hear it!
just the fact that you can run one leslie at FAST and the other at SLOW at the same time is totally awesome.
this is a great piece, that we need to add to our C3 in our Church since our Leslie burnt out and stopped working. plus I see now in a lot of big churches, they actually hide the Leslie or have the Leslie in some type of small booth or closet and just Mic it so it will be controlled and through the sound system. with the ventilator or with the mini vent, you don't have to do that at all, you just connect it right into the sound system or the speaker and you're set to go.
I just used it in church for the first time today, it's a keeper!
Just ordered mine yesterday! Can't wait to pair it up with my Nord Electro 2!
This is a great pedal. I just got one, and it makes the organs in my Korg SV1 sound fantastic. It is a completely different instrument as a result. I used it last night at an acoustic gig, and had my acoustic guitar going through it for a few songs. It sounded incredible.
Can you post a tutorial how you connected all the jacks from the interface to the neo ventilator to the speaker. Thanx
Can you post a link to the exact Hammond adaptor you’re using? I have an A143 & a Leslie 147. I want to say it’s 6-pin as well
@sigiriuk It's not designed so much to replace a leslie more like substitute. You can use it along with your leslie or alone. It also is MUCH more efficent than trying to mic the to and bottom.
Thank you"57"...I agree...although live on stage, I can "hide" behind the other instruments. ...... Not to shabby...not too shabby at all...thanks guys...
How much of this sound is the tubes in the B3 versus the ventilator itself?
How well do you think it would work with a tonewheel organ and a PR-40 (non rotary) tone cabinet? Would the interface box allow it to be used thusly? thx in advance
@tonespinner Actually that is a tonewheel organ. I'll get Eric to reply to you about the PR-40 situation.
Thanks!
That was pretty cool. I thought the 'crunch' was lacking a bit on the low end, although I realize between a camera video and TH-cam that mileage will vary. My only real pick is that I'd have the speakers together, since a single Leslie isn't in two places at once - I'm sure it's still a great effect, but I would stack the speakers as a single source point.
Great playing as well.
Ant Tuck...I saw you in this video and was wondering if I could get an answer to an important question from you.
Do you know the name of that Hammond interface the guy mentioned at about 1:10 in the video?
God bless!
what kind of interface is that?
Which type of Hammond interface box is that?
i like that how much where we buy that ventellator
Excuse me my good sir...Would you be so kind as to name that "Hammond Interface" mentioned at about 1:10?
I'm contemplating grabbing this product after raising the funds.
What does the organ player think?
how much is the neo running?
Artis brown
I just bought an original Vent. My only wish is that it had a cabinet resonance simulation (w/adjustment); then it would be absolutely perfect... as opposed to just plain old dull perfect.
Can you use the ventilator without a leslie chord hook-up, through only the speaker?
Yes You need to cut down the level of the Oregon if you know how to put a potentiometer in and cut it down like maybe 10 K I’ll get a hold of Mike smoke with a trek2 and get his little kid he makes to hook it up the ventilator he just go and send it into a guitar amp keyboard amp something like that
Thanks we have a hammond M3 and are looking to go this route since we don't have a leslie. Also is there a way to reach out personally for farther questions?
I just bought one
I was surprised the PA speakers sounded that good w/ straight organ. That's the power of a good AO28 Hammond B3 tube preamp.
Its depend on speaker You use...If Hammond is connected to ventilator its very important what kind of PA speakers You have and how does its sounds... Sometimes there is to many high frequencies or bass...low bass under 80 hz... Leslie doesnt produce 30 hz or 18 khz...Maybe try to connect ventilator to Leslie speaker and amp but on stopped rotors?
Why aren’t these pedals controlled with a rocker pedal attached? You could alter the speed easily then.
While you cannot beat a real Leslie the ventilator can come pretty close especially in a recording environment when you can finesse the eq and add speaker emulation etc. The version 2 (it is version 1 being reviewed) is better as it has more tonal control.
I replied to your inbox. I didn't see thi post at first.
I wanted to like this device, as I used to help my best friend lug an 825...then later a 147..around. The approach seems good; my only complaint is that the tibia tone seems a trifle synthetic compared to the true rotating speaker. I was reasonably impressed with the dropback from tibia to chorale. I see a lot of potential for use with other instruments, know a lot of guitar players that are dying to get their hands on one. It may not be a giant leap forward but it is definitely a step in the right direction.
The Ventilator sound really close to a leslie but its missing some needed ingredients to make that sound. when Listening to the B-3 with122 leslie, It more pure and one can hear the wind from the leslie. The Venitlator sound good but it amplifies the tonewheels to much which makes the organ have a ratty pinging sound in the upper part of the keyboard. ITs like and amplified type writer tapping a constant speed. The good thing I can say about it is that the tone color is there.
Yabut, how do you fit the 122 into your gig bag?
isn't this the NEO VENT I, not the NEO VENT II or am i wrong?
+daniel kinney its the I
so where is your video. I will be happy to link it.
TH-cam under Organ guru videos
The Neo Ventilator is seriously impressive sounding. I'd have no problem using in place of a Leslie. Sure, it doesn't sound quite as good as the real thing. But I've played through poorly cared for Leslies that didn't sound as good as this Vent. And if you're a gigging musician with a bad back...#justsaying.
Really good alternative, leslie sim, but the distortion is to play Rock only.
Good thing this is in mono.
I like wide open when i play!
I've got a 1948 CV, 147 and a digital xk3 rig. Leslies can be fussy as i'm sure you know and when the horn blows, contacts from the cable go, sub goes, capacitor starts popping, the neo is a great back up.
I'd never use it in a studio, but a mackie and a neo fit in the trunk of a toyota for pick up gigs.
let's be fair, a leslie does not make a casio sound like a hammond. maybe a korg...haha.
And please, link me to a leslie for 600 bones. I'll buy it.
@AntTuck I also will agree its tough to beat the sound of a real leslie on a strong organ, but If I had to do it with this ventilator thing I wouldn't feel like I was suffering!! LOL!!
What amplifier is tha Vent through please?
the Mackies are powered Thump 15
speakers, cheap and work just fine.
@@organguru thank you so much for your fast response. And that takes the pedals too? John.
@@johnbishop5316 yes, plenty of power. you can always add a sub as well.
@@organguru Thanks. Just looking at this stuff on Thomann: Not expensive. Love your playing. I bought the vent on the strebgth of your review. I have the vent 2. It's great. Thanks again.
im getting me one
all of a sudden image and audio quality like 1983...
OK, I'm detecting zero non-synchronous
speed change.
When a Leslie is switched between slow
and fast, the treble horn responds REAL
quickly. The bass reflector, not so quick.
Similar, when slowing down.
When you can duplicate THAT,
you have a decent copy. (Also,
the mechanics on a Leslie make
sound. That should be duplicated,
as well.)
steve
no offense to the organist by the way..... My comment was in general.. you sound great...
The NEO comes pretty close..Recording this type of audio with a camera mic is not goodness at all. All middle sounds no bass. The NEO seemed to brighten up the higher notes more than the Leslie...going back to that old problem with solid state and that metal sound...human ears like that mellow tube sound
As good as a synthetic gets but no, not as smooth as a Leslie. Having owned and gigged with many Hammond and Leslie combos the only advantage this has is over the Rotosonic models eg HL822 with them taking an age to spool up and wind down, the traditional Leslie effect, and one which characterises so much organ music this Neo has an advantage. Don't think I'll be hurrying to add one to my A100!
Great playing, but to my ears, the Leslie rules over the Neo Vent.
well i think its great for those who cant afford the leslies
/watch?v=nibTCzYe07U&feature=relmfu
here's an uncommon take on a common song. excuse quality it's live
i thought it sounded pretty good in fact, i still have a place in my hart for the Leslie ....
I have one of these and a Leslie. Anybody who doesn’t see the value of this thing hasn’t actually used one. No it’s not a Leslie but at a fraction of the price and space it’s a GREAT alternative. Anyone expecting this to go blow for blow with a real Leslie is delusional. Also anyone who thinks it’s worthless because it’s not a exact copy is also delusional.
450
Sounds great other than the fact that your player only plays the higher register on the keys.....blahhh.
To me the neo Ventilator sounds ok, maybe a little gritty.
The real issue as i see it is this: why would anyone buy a Neo V, a hammond 11pin convertor, 5+ cables, one PSU for the NeoV, and then two 40lb mackie speakers+2 power cables....isnt it easier to buy a real leslie, 3300, or even a 2101 mk2 - one box, one audio cable, and one power cable.
Well hopefully the little electronic box is way cheaper
than a real Leslie, so if you can't afford a Leslie, the
Ventilator would be better than nothing, (I guess).
People who don't know what a Leslie sounds like
would never know the difference.
To my ears the Neo Vent 1 and 2 is the real deal. Period@ all of you ppl on here.
This is no great revelation ....
The Roland ToneWorks G5 Rotary Simulator that I used on an XB2 in the late 90' does everything this does and sounded every bit as good .
The overdrive on the G5 was better . It had a dedicated on/off button which would give the sound a little preamp kick without breaking it up ... a dedicated footswitch let you kick the overdrive in and out on the fly.
Also had a memory function , the dials would remember a favorite setting once you set them....
Also had a stationary setting if you wanted the rotors to stop ... and it wasn't an in/out function. It would stop somewhere in rotation, not always the same spot .
Nice toy ..... Nothing new here ......
If Hammond has one of these or Roland, possibly Nord .... it would be better .
The Tone works is made by Korg. I had one on my XB2. It sounded great. It also didn't put your back out carrying it up stairs.
@@keithjohnson6784 Sorry ... Korg .... Don't know how I mixed it up considering how long I had it .... It was $500. way back then, but it was the best. In fact for those who remember Korg had a whole G Series line of pedals basically set up for guitar. The all had the same physical layout but did different things. For the mid 90's finding it was a diamond in the rough !
nope....it just isnt the same....it sounds all mushed together to me....you get an ambience with the Leslie and its just not there..
The gentleman playing is SO good it's easy to forget, but those powered speakers lose some of the excitement for me.
I'm not really sure if this demo showed me anything useful.
@sigiriuk Especially since the Ventilator will ventilate your wallet
to the tune of $500 just for the little box thing with knobs.
True, but it’s a helluva lot less than an actual Leslie.
Its probably going to sound ok using a single mike but surely any Doppler speaker can only be appreciated when the listener is standing in the room this thing is simple mimicking the variable speeds and pitch bending that is created by the rotating elements of the real thing....anyway it's name ie "ventilator" makes it sound like some sort of medical equipment!
There is no substitute for the real deal sorry
Every leslie simulator is bad. But, this is the best bad. Compromise.
If the original leslie will dead by gig, good aid.
The Leslie still sounds much better, electronics will never be able to fully emulate analog
Agreed - But I can't afford a Leslie nor can I heft it for gigs!
Yup. This is only more convenient. Sounds nothing like a real Leslie, really. But closer than most everything else.
it's absolutely possible to fully emulate the sound of a real leslie with solid state hardware. But it would be prohibitively expensive, moreso than a real leslie.
Uhuh ... if you mean perfectly emulate a real Leslie (a tube leslie) sound with SS hardware , then why don't you do it ... ? SS amps don't perfectly emulate tube amps, so you have lots of products that will make you very wealthy to get making, if you can actually do it ... and you probably wouldn't be here talking to people on YT, if you could ...
if you actually read what i said, you'd see the reason why.
sounds like every other Leslie demo....... (LOUD AND UN INTERESTING???? LOL! ......ijs...) Can someone please do something thats not ugly distorted preacher chords, boring "heard it all before jazz riffs.
Why do these demo's always have gross over-embellished jazz?
Why not "Whiter Shade of Pale" or some other well-known piece so we can get a better idea of how it compares?
Because organ encompasses a whole lot more than just classic rock! Besides, this is not "over-embellished jazz", its gospel!!!!!!! I would think any musician would know the difference....
Terry Hayes
1. This is a demonstration here ... so it should allow the listener to be able to relate it to something?
2. The underlying definition of "jazz" is free-flowing "improvisation"; it can have expression in many different genres .... including Gospel ... any musician would know that!
Please don't tell me he is playing from sheet music ... most of those notes are spontaneous improvisations .... i.e. this is version of "jazz".
It can never be compared to anything because there is just too much going on on the keyboard. From the point of a technical demo IMO he would have been better playing and comparing simple chords and sequences, not displaying his keyboard prowess; that is my point. I doubt if many are familiar with what he plays here, unlike the example simple demo I suggested in which the reverse would be the case. The video is entitled ".... hearing is believing" ... I'm not sure what I'm hearing?
Its like me slamming lots of notes down on my upright piano, then doing the same with a Steinway as a means of comparison.
So, IMO this is "over-embellished" for what it is trying to convey.
I do not wish to argue the merit of one style of music over another.
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1. Yes, I am sure many of the organists who play gospel music can relate to this demo just fine! Lots of folks play this type of music.
2. Lots of musical forms use "free flowing improvisation" but that doesn't necessarily make them "jazz". Phish and the whole jam band scene are all about "free flowing improvisation". While the incorporate elements of many forms including jazz, no one would consider them to be a jazz band. Gospel music is all about "free flowing improvisation". Countless churches on Sunday morning play without music and "go with the Spirit". While they too incorporate elements of jazz, Gospel music isn't jazz.
Neo also offer demos of their products in a jazz setting. Perhaps they should also do a demo as you suggested so that players of all styles can get a feel for what their products can do.
Terry Hayes Great explanation Terry! Bottom line like you said, Gospel music is NOT Jazz. You laid it out pretty well so I can save some text lol. I am a Gospel Musician btw.
+VGSoundtrackGuy He sounds like one of those musicians who can only play what is on a sheet..like a robot..all mechanics no real feeling or talent just taught..spoon fed theory..Improvising to him is like slapping his mother. It's like Terry insulted him lol. There's nothing like Gospel because, everything stems from it therefore it can incorporate almost every style of music...I'm also Gospel Musician.
He kept reaching for the half moon switch to his left while playing the vent. Cant beat the real thing
The leslie switch is still used for the NEO
I really don't like it. :( It's a great idea in theory, but it just doesn't cut it for me. To my ears, it doesn't sing...it shrieks (and not in a good way).
im sorry... I don't like it.
it really sound fake