@@southafricanizationofsociety20 You don't know what a Masculine-Presenting Transgendered Lesbian is, do you? To give you a clue: -Masculine-Presenting = Looks like a man
Ricoh Suave thus MGTOW is a thing because you can’t have it both ways because you can’t be a strong independent women, but yet leeching off of the mans money during the date with the guy.
Ricoh Suave I’m 39 and noticed that hypocritical mentality literally when I was 4 years old or younger growing up with a single mom and many single aunts and cousins that usually had kids and usually very young. I wish people would call this out and admit it cuz it’s disgusting, evil and ridiculous
Worse yet, there was an article about women ordering food to take home to their kids. Funny how she failed to mention she was a single mother before the date. And of course she shames him when he objects paying for the 200$ dinner.
@Joe H exactly. the problem isn't spending money, the problem is dealing with women who refuse social norms and gender stereotypes only when it suits them
Wouldn’t this be an example of ‘toxic femininity?’ To use a man for a meal, knowing that you never had any interest or intent to pursue it further is deceitful.
What's terrible is how selfish and indulgent behavior is often disguised by terms like "self care" "loving yourself" People have no self respect or discipline and it leads to not respecting others.
An old girlfriend once told me, "If you don't feed the strays, they usually stop hanging around." Although I am relatively certain she was referring to cats, the advice appears applicable to many situations in life.
Re-phrasing the same idea......"If you keep feeding the strays, they will keep hanging around." That may be the goal and purpose for some of us. Strays may not get you elected to public office, but they can still be a lot of fun and good company. As an added plus, they are often less picky about what they are fed and how much it costs.
BoB Men’s gender roles? Like marrying and having a family instead of constantly looking for one night stands???? You know most of those dates are about booty calls.
@@k8tdydsk886 Nobody goes on tinder looking for a long-term relationship. It's booty calls that may turn into short relationships just because you really like fucking this person. That's it. I've never seen a successful tinder relationship that lasted over 3 years.
Bender: "Don't tell me you've never gone out with a guy just because you're hungry?" Leela: "Um... well... I thought I'd like him better on a full stomach."
Haha, women? Take responsibility? For themselves? Maybe one out of ten can do that, the rest, are in terms of mentally with their care based morality, stuck at where they were at 13. Psychologist, Kolberg did the research. Men grow to justice based morality. Go figure, women say equality and they mean superiority
Here's a thought. Don't take them for dinner. First dates can be free. Walk on the beach etc... if they only want a dinner date, then there's your first red flag. 🎤
Another reason I stopped dating. Even bisexuals get this crap. Even when the relationship is strictly LONG DISTANCE, they bitch and moan about "you never take us anywhere nice" *BECAUSE WE'RE IN A LONG DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP YOU STUPID SHIT, WE DONT PHYSICALLY SEE EACHOTHER!!* Even masculine women get treated this way. These foodie callers have no standards.
heres my take,stop asking. let them ask, a year or two down the road when the solitude starts to look permanent. im an attractive guy, they will come my way hinting hinting hinting. i ignore the hints. then i eff them up by saying how interested i might be if some one ever showed interest. then ignor thier gyrations. im trying to train them into honesty. im probably like lashinko, trying to teach the wheat to be marx-lennenist.
When a guy suggests dinner or drinks for a first date, I'm like...wow, how creative and original of you. 🙄 I'd much rather do something interactive like batting cages, mini golf, paint night or whatever...just something where you can shit talk a little and be competitive. It actually breaks the ice unlike trying not to talk with food in your mouth.
Little King Trashmouth I think we are turning into a society where no one has faith in each other. The government is getting more social, but the people aren’t. Pretty ironic.
HEAV¥HAND Well, it’s better to screen ahead of time, before a date, to avoid those situations. It usually doesn’t take much effort to find out whether a woman is liberal and/or feminist. If it doesn’t come up until the actual date, I think a more appropriate response is to finish out the date, split the cheque and then politely say something to the effect of “thanks, it was nice spending time with you, but I don’t think we’re compatible”. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s politics is no reason to be rude.
@@cary67 that's true, well i guess we can all agree tho the majority of feminists are liberal. not all feminists are liberal. how about we stand together and come to the understanding that all feminists are worthless. and not worth any mans time.
Doubtful that it would be much higher (and with a larger sample size we could find out it's actually lower). People have little incentive to lie when it's anonymous and when they believe their admitted behavior is acceptable.
30% of women admit to “foodie call” Reality 70% of women do it and close to half of those that do, will talk about it because they feel entitled to it.
No one should be paying for anything for the other person on the first couple of dates. You don't know them, they don't know you, you owe each other nothing.
Jody Bruchon my boyfriend didn’t let me, but I also bought stuff at the store for us. Then again we are traditional compare to other people now a days. Plus he wanted me to eat something... I just wanted the unlimited soup and salad... but he made me get a pasta... it was really good. It feels like we are weird in this day and age.
Well they should, if they are the ones wanting to. So if they go on a date and hit it off and the guy OFFERS to pay then he can pay. But nobody should go into a date EXPECTING the other person to pay unless specified before hand.
Feminist: I am an independent, strong woman and hear me roar. at dinner: You're picking up the check, right?
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I do have to disagree with Tim about mot men not paying for the 1st date. Im not sure what circles he's been traveling in but it's still pretty customary for the men to pay for the 1st date. The contradictory part of all this is...this includes OPEN FEMINISTS. Those who all scream about wanting things to be 'equal'. I like Tim's video on this, I really do, but in 'Middle America' and even most of the coasts this is still the way it is - the man pays for the 1st date. Often even the 2nd. And then after that, if they still are seeing each other, they split the bill.
@John Volken Don't know where "middle America" is to you, but here in Ohio that's not even remotely the case. YOU pay for the food YOU ordered. It's beyond weird to me that people think that it's obligatory for men to pay. It's the same as holding the door open or letting someone with less items in front of you at the grocery store -- It's a kind thing to do, but you are NOT obligated to do it. People have gotten so entitled to kind acts that people (especially men) do for them that they assume they are - ALWAYS - deserving and obligated to that treatment. You're not sweety. If a guy wants to do it to be generous and very kind he can, but you are not entitled to anyone doing anything for you.
@ that's definitely the old model, but feminists want to claim to be equal and they find it offensive if they have to pay because they still want the old model, however contradict their own personal beliefs on the matter. i honestly think it's time for a change. women are more and more these days, earning more than men, and getting payed for less work. so i think it's only fair that women pay the bill. you know it's what they wanted all these years, and that's what they get.
I find it kind of funny that when you look at the situations, when men take advantage of women, they're basically publically shamed and thrown in a cesspit of douche bags. But when WOMEN take advantage of MEN, they're encouraged, and told "You go hunny!" and basically empowered for their actions.
@@FazeParticles Be that emotionally, temporaly, physically or fiscally. Often, some combination of all. Hopefully temporally because they are too busy doing things that they enjoy, are fulfulling and improving them and their lives.
cared HARD for 50 years, time to care about myself for my time left. besides, women my age are sexless drones, 100% useless. horny young women are scary breeders, no effing way without tubal. miss T and A but not the thots that own them.
A woman actually asked me why I do not have a wife or girlfriend. My responce. Because she expects me to pay, where as I am NOT expected to receive head for it. Conversation ended.
I've walked away from quite a few potential relationships, some at work (which ofc bad idea, don't care what anyone says) and I've gotten treated VERY differently after... Anything from "Is he gay?!" to "Wow, something must be wrong with him..." Hard for some people to understand I enjoy being alone, and I just want to be left alone I guess. Typical traits of my personality type according to Meyers-Briggs. *shrug* But I definitely suffered for it, even if it's nobody else's business. Particularly when it was the boss's daughter. Whats the right move there...? Lmfao, screwed.
I have been asked that a number of times. Often by older women though. And often enough on dating sites when they automatically ASSUME that there's either "something wrong with me" or "you're using a fake picture" which I have had quite a few times. Kinda like "there's no way you could look like that and not already have a girl". It's kinda like they go on dating sites to look for a guy and then EXPECT to find nothing and everything is too good to be true, so skip any of the good ones coz they must be fake.
No.....never take them where alcohol is served on the first date. If they cannot do it sober, they probably won't anyway. Booze is just a convenient excuse. If we are going to drink, it will be at your house or mine, and nobody is leaving until morning.
Hypocrites. 'Don't open the door for me it is sexist I can do it myself.' And then, 'why aren't you paying for me?? You are supposed to be a gentleman!' Are you strong and independent or weak and rely on men to survive? Because you can't pick and choose equality.
They're trying to 'balance the scales' in their mind you OWE them. Problem is, their level of indoctrination and the fact that they could even be indoctrinated to that point, mean they're a lost cause. Which also means its your fault for taking one of these psychopaths out on a date :/
I agree with you all gentlemen. My oldest daughter is one of those, a total nut case, an awful human being. She was legally disowned, after hurting all of us (including grandma). How can men protect themselves from these parasites ? Only date women you know, women you have shared with, like in the old times. Bring back romanticism and ban online pray/abuse.
I keep saying it: First date should ALWAYS be something like going for a walk or sitting in the park feeding squirrels, it's quiet so you can actually talk, low/no pressure and does a wonderful job of filtering out these c**ts.
@@jeffw1267 most Mgtows don't hate neither condemn women... They hate the system... Which gave irresponsible people all the liberties and freedom of a responsible adult
@@goldenpunk9k Actually, it gives irresponsible people MORE liberties and freedom of a responsible adult. That's the biggest issue. Those irresponsible people don't want equality, they want more, and they get it because they tend to be the people who screech the loudest.
I'm an untraditional man. I have no career ambitions and want nothing more than to be a stay at home father. I expect women to pay for my meal on dates... I'm also single.
@Max Powers That is so true. When a man cheats, he is a sleaze bag A-hole. When a women cheats, it's because he is neglecting her? There is a serious lack of accountability on the wahman side. Most messed up things is, all the women than have a pity party helping her justify why her husband is an a-hole for working excessively so they can maintain living the lifestyle she is so accustomed.
There is a spend Gap between men and women. Women need to start paying for Men's meals to reduce the enormous spend Gap deficit that currently stands @ 80% in favor of women.
Patriarchy: the guy pays for everything Feminism: the guy still pays for everything but i get to tell everyone i'm strong independant and i paid for my Chanel bag mysef (after he paid all the bills).
william householder first date I almost always go out to eat at a benihana’s, teriyaki steakhouse, or other hibachi style restaurants. Because it’s dinner and a show, you’re almost always placed with other groups that you don’t know so you almost never have the awkward silence and poor pauses and if the date goes sour you still get a good meal for a decent price
@@abellator7560 Ive done that. There is another place like benihana if you live near los angeles thats better. yamato resturant in santa clarita. Took a few there in my college days
I was first introduced to this concept way back in High School in 1978 when my then girlfriend informed me, "I would go out with anyone---whether I liked him or not---- in exchange for a free meal".
BallTistic Screecher Coffee only? My preferred first date approach is me just skipping to the chase and not contacting them in the first place, let alone wasting my time and money on a date. You see, when you go your own way, your finances tend to go along with you. Quite advantageous, really.
This is what happens in a failing economy. As it falls, people want free crap since they believe that the next currency will meet the same fate as this one. History repeats, whether you know about it or not.
@@ceejay8775 Better yet, make your own instead. Making your own meal can be cheaper, or healthier in certain cases (Baked fries are better than frying fries, IMO).
Also gents if you wanna see the social stigma about how you're expected to pay for the date just see how quickly you're gonna get called cheap by your friends even family and definitely the girl and her friends if you simply ask for the check to be split Literally had a girl tell me that she was expecting me to pay for a date and when I asked ok I just drove an hour to meet you bc you didn't wanna meet halfway I cleared my schedule for a day that works for you and I WAS planning on paying for our drinks at least what am I getting out of this? She says "my company" And I looked her dead in the face and asked her why my company isn't worth it to her to meet me halfway on anything she basically had the mindset that bc she was choosing to pay attention to me that was the big payoff. Keep in mind I had two classes with this girl and saw her almost every day anyway....I'm just like nope sorry I'm not going down this road
I couldn't keep a straight face and would probably burst out laughing if anyone would say something like that to me. Some time ago back when i still attended to school i had a girl make very straightforward advances to me...to put it in more civil words than she did and then started demanding for something she wanted in the first place. I was like 'kthxbai'. The worst thing about this is that she was the one i would have expected this sort of behavior the least of of all the others before of whom i just didn't feel much attracted to but at least behaved in a sane manner. Nope, had to ruin it trying to get me into fights that i never even do due to AvPD and lack of reason, much less because some entitled bich said so, lol. Would rather die than give an inch to these types.
Women... so its women. Not men hating fems. Ok. This video is just a damn meal dont act like you all dont manipulate to get da booty. Lmao. Plus I was told its who ever asks someone to go..the one who invites someone to dinner pays.
@@birdsong985 Except that's also bs because the man is also always the one who has to ask, because even though 'equality' exists, men are still expected to be the ones to ask people out, it's extremely rare that women ever ask a guy out. Women want their cake and to eat it too.
A guy is shaving for his date. The girl remains on her phone the entire time. She half eats her plate. She leaves with another guy hand in hand, looking like she’s gonna give him the V. Guy sits there. “Gillette: for the most you’re gonna get.”
I love those profiles. "You have to be a homeowner, have a minimum of a bachelor's degree or graduate degree(preferred), must be 6'2" or taller and have no kids" Its almost like they are looking for an employee and not a mate. These women are an instant left swipe
@@blargblarg-jargon9607 the establishment offers you a contract and you signed the contract don't deflect, what's the point in giving you rights when you will hold yourself accountable let alone responsible for your own actions you entitled mellenial selfish POS.
Blarg Blarg-Jargon Histrionic Personality Disorder= not relationship material. It’s overwhelmingly women. The “men” that have it are most often gay. That’s the super majority.
Its weird how something like this happens in a feminism's Mecca, meanwhile in my "backward" central european country, where feminism is virtually non existent in the mainstream, its unimaginable that woman would be expecting to not pay for her meal. I could be wrong, thats just my experience. Never been in such situation.
@John Kevin lost over 25gs on an ex girlfriend. Between 4 wrecked cars, paying nearly all of the rent for almost 1 year and half, buying most of the food, and only getting an xbox and some sex out of the whole thing.... this is all true on so many levels
Whoever makes the invitation pays. She made the invitation. Technically, she should've picked up the entire ticket. The guy is right, he was being nice by paying for his share.
You ever hear about the site a guy set up where you can put a profile on a woman up, say how she screwed you, different names she's known under and anything she tries to hide (kids etc). It was used to stop guys being burnt by gold diggers. Feminists got it shut down under sexism laws. Then created a male version a few months later which apparently still exists today.
If she's interested in me as a person, she can manage 10 minutes of 'real' conversation over a coffee. .... As for the "foodie call," its not even about the money; its about the lack of respect ...
ldl147 Women who objectify men for stability, or in this case - food - (like, wtf?) treat us like some sort of a "wish a sponsor without being a whore" fundation... Little does she know...
This. I moved to SEA a few months ago, met a nice woman and we hit it off right away. Not all women objectify. She even insists on paying for dinner sometimes. It's all a matter of respect on both parties.
Feminism also wants women to have no responsibility but benefit fro male working for them like a tyrannical queen. Feminism is absolutely a sexist female supremacist movement.
tagert Oh yeah???? That’s odd. I thought feminism has allowed men to get laid with many different women without any commitment. Men nowadays enjoy one night stands, girlfriends who sleep with them without being married etc. And many many men who knock a girl up don’t stick around. These problems are created by both sexes. Both are to blame.
@@k8tdydsk886 The work environment you described was completely made up. Whenever females are in position of authority incompetence is rewarded and masculinity is punished.
@@k8tdydsk886 SOME men enjoy that. The same small percentage of men that ALWAYS enjoyed it. Feminism didn't change that. These are the exciting and dangerous men. These men would traditionally be avoided by many women because of the downside risk. Because they could end up left unmarried with a kid and no support. Feminism has removed the social stigma and put the state at work to mitigate the downside risk. Add to this birth control and on demand abortion and the risk for women who choose to indulge themselves has dropped dramatically. So yes, feminism allows a small portion of men to enjoy what they always have enjoyed, maybe enjoy it more because the field has increased in size.
Yeah, every time i hear the "respect whamen (or group of choice)", i say 1 - respect is earned 2 - respect is a two way street 3 - I respect individuals, not groups 4 - If someone wants respect, better have a better reason for it than "muh vagina"
"You have to excuse me. I'm biracial, dropped out of school, lean left (sometimes fall over), have little hair on my head, and some other things I can't say or YT will demonetize me."
I practice quantum super positioning. In the time it takes them to blink, I rearrange all of my atoms from that one position to another, somewhere else.
Not all women with feminists views are the dumb ass sjw's.. I consider myself a feminist but it's for equality, right across the board.. I can pay my own way.. if a woman hits a man, she should be hit back.. I believe in "do unto others as you would want done unto you" and that goes for men or women.
Bmore Queen Equality assumes the 2 genders are the same, which they are not, therefore the only way it can be achieved is by forcing people which doesn’t work well
So they managed to put "psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism" in the same sentence as "traditional gender role beliefs." That's some top-tier social engineering, I'll tell ya what.
When you get older, you learn more how the world REALLY works, what it's really like. Not what media tells you its like. Why do you think nobody's politics becomes more left as they get older. The utopia only exists in the classroom-
@@CygnusOrb Being invited out does NOT come with the guarantee that your stuff will be paid for. If you actually believe that, then you have a lot to learn about a lot of things
@@CygnusOrb You know deep down, that a women doing the same thing he did, would have most likely not even have been pursued as a crime. If the police were called, they probably would have just said to the man to pay.
I have this policy, and I can tell you based on experience, 90% of the time, that will end any potential you had - Fortunately, at that point, nothing of value was lost, because the potential you ruined was to be taken advantage of by a greedy, judgemental, egotistical, narcissistic sociopath who, in the long run, would likely attempt to ruin your life once you cease to be useful. So, yeah - Easiest way to dodge a bullet is by having that conversation before you go on the date...
My go to first date was a short hike and a picnic. Nothing fancy, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, something to drink, and a semi-quiet place to talk with a good view, but with enough people around that they don't feel uncomfortable or unsafe.
I’m a male teacher and I make 3-5 percent more due to coaching a sport and providing a specific training that I receive a stipend for every time I give it
A friend of mine who is a girl goes on about three dates with different men a week she meets on dating apps... I told her if I went on that many dates, I would be broke!
@Thelondonbadger never bring one nighters back to your place! Don't make friends with women. They treat their female friends terrible and treat men they love like they're rodents. Don't befriend them. They can't be good friends. Just tell every woman you want to fuck, that you like her and would be interested in fucking her. If she does anything other than ask to leave with you or ask where you want to go. Turn around and LEAVE. These women offer NOTHING. Especially if you're just using them for pussy. Why go through all that effort lol.. Why put yourself, your home etc at risk? Don't spend a dime, don't treat them any better than they treat you. You will not have trouble getting laid, and life will be SO MUCH EASIER!
Had a woman do that recently. We had a couple dates, I bought her meals, and then she ghosted me. From now on I tell them to pay for their half, or it's a no go.
randy osborne thats not even true. a man and a woman could be in the same position, working the same hours, but the man outperforms the woman. theyll both get the same pay though... i worked in warehouses where women would have men do all the heavy work and they get the same pay
@@Chaso-1124 You are right. I worked on the freight docks and a girl would work there and get all the fluff freight from the trailer, then a man would have to come after her and unload the heavy freight from that same trailer. And the pay was the same.
nightstalker1124 I had a lady get upset with me at work because I refused to carry a heavy box to her work station for her, I told her that was a part of her job and she wasn’t paying me to do her work.
They are both working indentured slave jobs for useless fiat money, so really who is in the wrong? Big businesses that sell you your life and suck ut out 8 hours a day, thats who.
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No no no. Same race, same medal. Everyone should be on gold on the podium. Equality man...
Dreddy G. When women feel there is inequality where there isn’t: “we don’t need men.” The moment they realize they have more responsibility and expenses because of what they wanted: “we need men”
How did the saying go? "You can't notice your privilege until you lose it"? Ladies getting angry at men non paying their meals, welcome to the world of gender equality. EDIT: generally if you are the one asking someone out, you are the one who is expected to pay for the meal, doesn't matter if you are a woman who asked a man out (at least in Italy). If possible I would always go for separate bills (not split as generally could be interpreted as split in half).
@@5050TM try and teach them the error of their ways. Most of these girls get by in life by acting very flirty and dont understand that they are giving men all the right signs, saying no and then say "he wanted to buy me food" as an excuse. Like no you're misleading them and it's bad. Some open their eyes and it clicks that they are doing something off, others are shallow twats lol
@@Playerofakind If it pretends to like you long enough to bilk a free meal off you, it definitely identifies as a woman. You'll understand when you're older.
The dudes who insist that they're "going their own way" usually just continue to whine about women. Nothing wrong with deciding you're done with dating/women/relationships/whatever, but then let it friggin' go.
@@5226-p1e Well, technically you're right. Things _shouldn't_ be this way. However, this is one of many natural reactions of the social breakdown between the sexes.
What makes it even funnier is he won't pay for a "liberal" woman, but will for a traditonal woman. He has never not voted for Democrat types, and even he is red pilled enough to know how toxic leftist women are. 😂
Im Dutch, women all over the west have gone crazy. Have 2 kids (girls ofc), adults now. Divorced when they were young. Havent dated in 14 years. Its far too dangerous. Learned my lesson after being burnt 3 times and ended up in prison bc of them. I loved women, but nowadays hate most.
StofStuiver Sorry brother, that’s some rough stuff. Hopefully you still have a good relationship with your daughters. If I hadn’t found my current wife I’d most likely be MGTOW now.
Yup, I was a participant in a "food-bye" or "foodie call" as they now call it, twice. It's ok, next foodie call, she is gonna wonder how long my bathroom break is gonna take as I'm driving down the street.
I bet it is WAAAY more than 1/3. It doesnt just happen with dinner either. Vacations, gifts, and favors are some of the other things women coax out of men they have no romantic interest in.
Don't even look at the stats for paternity fraud... Foodie calls are nothing when compared to paying 18+ years for child support for a child for a kid that isnt yours. Then theres being emotionally involved with a child you find out you were lied to about.
@Orlando Rotundo Meaning what? At 64 I've explored the world and the knowledge and wonders it offers. When you cite statistics you provide the source information. I wasn't even addressing you but you just couldn't help yourself, could you?
Joanne Sgrignoli, while I don't agree with Krishna, it is understood that surveys are a bad way to receive data in statistics. Every class I've taken has hammered in the fact that people will not answer truthfully if they doubt they will be completely anonymous. Similar to "give a man a mask, and he'll show you who he really is" mentality. So it is possible the number is higher, and from personal experience I have met more girls my age who have no regard for having a good time at dinner, and instead just sit on their phones and ignore me till after the bill is coming, then leave and never talk to me again. But I do know plenty of girls I've really enjoyed going on dates on, that in most cases offer to pay for their halfs, to which I usually decline as I initiated the date in most cases. I think it's important to understand that some people lie when it's in their best interest, and that on the other side of the coin, not 100% of people are manipulative.
Foodie call? Hahaha... They're called gold-diggers. This is about as "new" as the sun.
Fat women are best for foodie calls.
@@you8549 they tend to swallow too.
@@Rivenburg-xd5yf Yes, chicken wings by the dozens while implement the foodie variant of speeddating.
TH-cam's finest
Mmmm thicc
Gold-Diggers - Bred in America, Spread to the rest of the world.
Quick tip: If you identify as a woman before you get the bill, you don't have to pay.
Modern day problems need modern day solutions!
So a *Masculine-Presenting Transgendered Lesbian* can now get free food???
Shaik Pasha
(Tips his cap)
Skeptisk
Only hair pie the unbaked and unkempt kind.
@@southafricanizationofsociety20 You don't know what a Masculine-Presenting Transgendered Lesbian is, do you? To give you a clue:
-Masculine-Presenting = Looks like a man
*Modern woman:* "Whoever asks the other out should pay for the meals"
*Also modern woman:* "I am not gonna make the first move, that's HIS job!"
^^^
Talk about having your cake and eating it too! Then you make the guy pay for that cake!
And eat the cake in front of him, then turn around and ask him to buy you coffee.
Do you think Tim wears his beanie in his dates?
You know what. At least the beanies don’t bitch about everything.
"I'm a strong, independent woman who don't need no man!" - woman
"You cheap bastard, how dare you not buy my dinner!" - also woman
Ricoh Suave thus MGTOW is a thing because you can’t have it both ways because you can’t be a strong independent women, but yet leeching off of the mans money during the date with the guy.
D i n n e r w h o r e s.
This is absolutely correct during this time in history. It’s gross. And I’m a woman.
Ricoh Suave I’m 39 and noticed that hypocritical mentality literally when I was 4 years old or younger growing up with a single mom and many single aunts and cousins that usually had kids and usually very young. I wish people would call this out and admit it cuz it’s disgusting, evil and ridiculous
They don't know what they want 🤦🏽♂️ smh. They can't have it both ways
Her: "I'm a career-driven professional."
Also her: orders 3 expensive drinks, demands I pay
Worse yet, there was an article about women ordering food to take home to their kids. Funny how she failed to mention she was a single mother before the date. And of course she shames him when he objects paying for the 200$ dinner.
This is why I don’t pay for women’s food lel
Her: I want a free meal..
Me: Taco Bell is up here on the right 🙌
@Joe H exactly. the problem isn't spending money, the problem is dealing with women who refuse social norms and gender stereotypes only when it suits them
@ or e transfers are almost instant most of the time get her dad to send her money lol
Wouldn’t this be an example of ‘toxic femininity?’ To use a man for a meal, knowing that you never had any interest or intent to pursue it further is deceitful.
Maybe Gilette will do a commercial on it....
@@semineil HA.HA.HA
HA.HA.
Well according to the feminazis it's only toxic when men do it.
I don't think so since anyone could do this not just women.
I'm sure it's the man's fault somehow. Just ask a feminist.
I reeeeeally hate the hookup/dating culture in the west, people are so selfish.
Thank feminist and progressives for that
If they are screwing me out of food, Im gonna hump and dump and not feel bad.
I like it, meet up talk for 30 min. Next day hump like rabbits, keep that going while looking for new pussy. WINNING!!😀😃😁
but not you right??? go away.
What's terrible is how selfish and indulgent behavior is often disguised by terms like "self care" "loving yourself"
People have no self respect or discipline and it leads to not respecting others.
An old girlfriend once told me, "If you don't feed the strays, they usually stop hanging around."
Although I am relatively certain she was referring to cats, the advice appears applicable to many situations in life.
Wisdom :: 100
Re-phrasing the same idea......"If you keep feeding the strays, they will keep hanging around." That may be the goal and purpose for some of us. Strays may not get you elected to public office, but they can still be a lot of fun and good company. As an added plus, they are often less picky about what they are fed and how much it costs.
lol
Interesting in this day and age, men are expected to hold their gender roles, but women get to throw away theirs.
BoB
Men’s gender roles? Like marrying and having a family instead of constantly looking for one night stands???? You know most of those dates are about booty calls.
@@k8tdydsk886 Nobody goes on tinder looking for a long-term relationship. It's booty calls that may turn into short relationships just because you really like fucking this person. That's it. I've never seen a successful tinder relationship that lasted over 3 years.
@@robbobbrah8953 that's still a good amount of time. If you go for 3 years and don't get engaged break it off
No, according to feminism we're only allowed to keep the gender roles that directly benefit women. Anything else is toxic masculinity.
I'm sorry, but if a woman asks you out on fucking TENDER.....dont take her out to dinner.
Hint: Ask her if she wants to meet at a nice Hotel.
Bender: "Don't tell me you've never gone out with a guy just because you're hungry?"
Leela: "Um... well... I thought I'd like him better on a full stomach."
@David D are*
@David D As the prophecy fortold.
@@jakezepeda1267 zing
@David D a winner
Wow that is scarily accurate.
A third of women are entitled beggars? That's pathetic.
Equal rights requires equal responsibilities.
Haha, women? Take responsibility? For themselves?
Maybe one out of ten can do that, the rest, are in terms of mentally with their care based morality, stuck at where they were at 13.
Psychologist, Kolberg did the research. Men grow to justice based morality.
Go figure, women say equality and they mean superiority
Here's a thought. Don't take them for dinner. First dates can be free. Walk on the beach etc... if they only want a dinner date, then there's your first red flag. 🎤
Going bowling is a good first date. If they want chivalry, you can pay for the shoe rental.
Another reason I stopped dating. Even bisexuals get this crap. Even when the relationship is strictly LONG DISTANCE, they bitch and moan about "you never take us anywhere nice" *BECAUSE WE'RE IN A LONG DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP YOU STUPID SHIT, WE DONT PHYSICALLY SEE EACHOTHER!!*
Even masculine women get treated this way. These foodie callers have no standards.
why are you people still dating? lol. it does not end well in this era of humanity. wait a few years and then it might get better.
heres my take,stop asking. let them ask, a year or two down the road when the solitude starts to look permanent. im an attractive guy, they will come my way hinting hinting hinting. i ignore the hints. then i eff them up by saying how interested i might be if some one ever showed interest. then ignor thier gyrations. im trying to train them into honesty. im probably like lashinko, trying to teach the wheat to be marx-lennenist.
When a guy suggests dinner or drinks for a first date, I'm like...wow, how creative and original of you. 🙄 I'd much rather do something interactive like batting cages, mini golf, paint night or whatever...just something where you can shit talk a little and be competitive. It actually breaks the ice unlike trying not to talk with food in your mouth.
And feminists are mad because they end up alone... I wonder why? Lol
They only want everyone else to be as miserable as them.
Men will sadly be alone too
Mindy,
Feminists don't end up alone! They have their cats! ;D
They just go lesbo and switch partners like clothes cause their grip on a relationship is like a wet bag full of groceries
Little King Trashmouth I think we are turning into a society where no one has faith in each other. The government is getting more social, but the people aren’t. Pretty ironic.
I wouldn’t even consider dating a liberal feminist in the first place.
HEAV¥HAND
Well, it’s better to screen ahead of time, before a date, to avoid those situations. It usually doesn’t take much effort to find out whether a woman is liberal and/or feminist.
If it doesn’t come up until the actual date, I think a more appropriate response is to finish out the date, split the cheque and then politely say something to the effect of “thanks, it was nice spending time with you, but I don’t think we’re compatible”. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s politics is no reason to be rude.
what makes you think only "liberal feminist" women are guilty of this behavior?
@HEAV¥HAND
nah, just pretend you need to use the restroom and leave here there to pay for not only her bill, but yours as well.
@Duke Toxo
i think their both.
@@cary67
that's true, well i guess we can all agree tho the majority of feminists are liberal. not all feminists are liberal.
how about we stand together and come to the understanding that all feminists are worthless. and not worth any mans time.
A third "admits" to this. Real percentage is higher.
Lol, so true xD
Well we need a a study with a larger samples to find out more.
Doubtful that it would be much higher (and with a larger sample size we could find out it's actually lower). People have little incentive to lie when it's anonymous and when they believe their admitted behavior is acceptable.
Only a third? LMAO!
Femanism has been teaching women to wield the power of the P for generations...
"I finessed a KFC box out of him" - Genuine phrase I heard in East London from a girl.
That's all? Not much finesse and more like confusing that word with him feeling bad for your narrow ass.
Unless that dude was a simp, she can enjoy not being trusted by the same person for the rest of her life.
Guess it was worth it.
Londinium Armoury oh damn!
probably thought she was a bum and felt sorry for her lol
That's setting the bar rather low. (looks at chick's photo) Actually, you done good!
30% of women admit to “foodie call”
Reality 70% of women do it and close to half of those that do, will talk about it because they feel entitled to it.
90%
I've never done that in my entire life. I'd never go out with someone just so they'd pay for the meal! Who is that freaking desperate??
@@katylake212
Broke college students who aren't on a meal plan?
@@Reno_Slim Sorry, using anyone like that is wrong, no matter how "broke" you are.
Hmmm and they wonder why MGTOW is getting more popular.
Never had more money in my pocket than when I whent MGTOW!
@@khankrum1 I saved 15% or more by switching to MGTOW.
No one should be paying for anything for the other person on the first couple of dates. You don't know them, they don't know you, you owe each other nothing.
Jody Bruchon my boyfriend didn’t let me, but I also bought stuff at the store for us. Then again we are traditional compare to other people now a days. Plus he wanted me to eat something... I just wanted the unlimited soup and salad... but he made me get a pasta... it was really good.
It feels like we are weird in this day and age.
@@zerotodona1495 What a story xD
I like the way you think my friend!
Well they should, if they are the ones wanting to. So if they go on a date and hit it off and the guy OFFERS to pay then he can pay. But nobody should go into a date EXPECTING the other person to pay unless specified before hand.
@@zerotodona1495 you're traditional until you get married and divorce his ass for half his shit. Divorce isn't a part of traditionalism.
"By all genders"
You mean both.
Feminist: I am an independent, strong woman and hear me roar.
at dinner: You're picking up the check, right?
I do have to disagree with Tim about mot men not paying for the 1st date. Im not sure what circles he's been traveling in but it's still pretty customary for the men to pay for the 1st date. The contradictory part of all this is...this includes OPEN FEMINISTS. Those who all scream about wanting things to be 'equal'. I like Tim's video on this, I really do, but in 'Middle America' and even most of the coasts this is still the way it is - the man pays for the 1st date. Often even the 2nd. And then after that, if they still are seeing each other, they split the bill.
yep. tells people to help her, then complains that people see her as "less" than a man.
@John Volken Don't know where "middle America" is to you, but here in Ohio that's not even remotely the case. YOU pay for the food YOU ordered. It's beyond weird to me that people think that it's obligatory for men to pay. It's the same as holding the door open or letting someone with less items in front of you at the grocery store -- It's a kind thing to do, but you are NOT obligated to do it. People have gotten so entitled to kind acts that people (especially men) do for them that they assume they are - ALWAYS - deserving and obligated to that treatment. You're not sweety. If a guy wants to do it to be generous and very kind he can, but you are not entitled to anyone doing anything for you.
strong independent waamins who don't need no man.
but they sure as shit need a mans money in the form of welfare.
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that's definitely the old model, but feminists want to claim to be equal and they find it offensive if they have to pay because they still want the old model, however contradict their own personal beliefs on the matter.
i honestly think it's time for a change. women are more and more these days, earning more than men, and getting payed for less work.
so i think it's only fair that women pay the bill.
you know it's what they wanted all these years, and that's what they get.
Nooooo women like to take advantage of men ? Well I'd never!
And men never take advantage of women...PEOPLE take advantage of PEOPLE. Next?
@@rashone2879 Hard for females to lure males into their traps when they can't keep their traps shut! (I am a female and yap, too). :)
I find it kind of funny that when you look at the situations, when men take advantage of women, they're basically publically shamed and thrown in a cesspit of douche bags.
But when WOMEN take advantage of MEN, they're encouraged, and told "You go hunny!" and basically empowered for their actions.
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
Women: Men and woman must be equal and do everything the same way!
also Women: MEN MUST PAY AT DINER!
‘I don’t really care anymore’
The battlecry of adult men everywhere.
thats my life
most men can't afford to care anymore.
@@FazeParticles Be that emotionally, temporaly, physically or fiscally. Often, some combination of all. Hopefully temporally because they are too busy doing things that they enjoy, are fulfulling and improving them and their lives.
cared HARD for 50 years, time to care about myself for my time left. besides, women my age are sexless drones, 100% useless. horny young women are scary breeders, no effing way without tubal. miss T and A but not the thots that own them.
MGTOW, you get a lot of peace and quiet
It's the few rotten million that spoil it for the other 126
@shadowberetta - it's actually a variation on an old Dennis Miller joke... But it seemed appropriate.
Hilarious
Yep. And most good women/good men have no intrest in dateing because they know better and have no desire to play weird ass games.
30-40 million is more than just a few.
Yeah. So glad I'm married now (14 years and counting).
A woman actually asked me why I do not have a wife or girlfriend.
My responce. Because she expects me to pay, where as I am NOT expected to receive head for it.
Conversation ended.
@realmenwearcamo
Maybe because I just put it in. Give it time. It might go up.
I've walked away from quite a few potential relationships, some at work (which ofc bad idea, don't care what anyone says) and I've gotten treated VERY differently after...
Anything from "Is he gay?!" to "Wow, something must be wrong with him..."
Hard for some people to understand I enjoy being alone, and I just want to be left alone I guess. Typical traits of my personality type according to Meyers-Briggs. *shrug*
But I definitely suffered for it, even if it's nobody else's business. Particularly when it was the boss's daughter. Whats the right move there...? Lmfao, screwed.
You are the realest.
I have been asked that a number of times. Often by older women though. And often enough on dating sites when they automatically ASSUME that there's either "something wrong with me" or "you're using a fake picture" which I have had quite a few times. Kinda like "there's no way you could look like that and not already have a girl". It's kinda like they go on dating sites to look for a guy and then EXPECT to find nothing and everything is too good to be true, so skip any of the good ones coz they must be fake.
Never buy them drinks in bars, always go 50-50 on the first couple of dates.
They don't like this then good for you, this ain't a keeper.
No.....never take them where alcohol is served on the first date. If they cannot do it sober, they probably won't anyway. Booze is just a convenient excuse. If we are going to drink, it will be at your house or mine, and nobody is leaving until morning.
I'll take "things that are obviously obvious" for $1000, alex.
33% of women lied to get ... ?
Noah McClure What is a free meal?
@@connfeebruh9439 correct!
@@noahmcclure6871 insert clapping here
not a fan of jeopardy but you're right.
the 47 dislikes so far are the women who do this to guys lol
And their white knight sycophants.
@HIGH ENERGY Sounds about right...
It could have also been 47 men who went on dates this weekend, and are just now realizing what has been done to them...
@@smithologist5272 Lol.
Hypocrites. 'Don't open the door for me it is sexist I can do it myself.' And then, 'why aren't you paying for me?? You are supposed to be a gentleman!'
Are you strong and independent or weak and rely on men to survive? Because you can't pick and choose equality.
In my experience, the feminist types expect you to pay. Scratch that: they demand that you pay ...
They're trying to 'balance the scales' in their mind you OWE them. Problem is, their level of indoctrination and the fact that they could even be indoctrinated to that point, mean they're a lost cause. Which also means its your fault for taking one of these psychopaths out on a date :/
They need men like a fish needs a bicycle, so they can pay their own way. It's also my wallet, so it's my choice if I pay for her or not.
If gender roles are a myth then why do they expect us to be gentlemen.
I agree with you all gentlemen. My oldest daughter is one of those, a total nut case, an awful human being. She was legally disowned, after hurting all of us (including grandma). How can men protect themselves from these parasites ? Only date women you know, women you have shared with, like in the old times. Bring back romanticism and ban online pray/abuse.
/ DELTA at least I never ended up paying for them xD But get what you mean, I was pretty leftist when I was in my teens *the horror*
*avoid tinder, have self respect*
JACKIE F04 nope not interested remember self respect
JACKIE F04 Bro?
Watch Fluffytalks to learn what not to do on Tender (or what to do if you have no self respect)
Amen brother
I keep saying it: First date should ALWAYS be something like going for a walk or sitting in the park feeding squirrels, it's quiet so you can actually talk, low/no pressure and does a wonderful job of filtering out these c**ts.
One of my favorite first takes was a walk and a picnic, we both brought half the food. Was a great tradition after that
1/3 of women lie to get men to pay for squirrel feed.
Don't feed the squirrels. If you feed them there will be an overpopulation and they won't be able to survive on their own.
Mgtow has been saying this for a while.
MGTOW is not the answer either. If you condemn all women, it's the same as being racist.
mgtow is just an excuse to be an incel.
@@jeffw1267 most Mgtows don't hate neither condemn women... They hate the system... Which gave irresponsible people all the liberties and freedom of a responsible adult
@@goldenpunk9k
In other words, they act like children. No thanks, I do not want to date a child.
@@goldenpunk9k Actually, it gives irresponsible people MORE liberties and freedom of a responsible adult. That's the biggest issue. Those irresponsible people don't want equality, they want more, and they get it because they tend to be the people who screech the loudest.
And u wonder why guys aren't having families or dating
Wait... you become a incel simply because it's getting harder to find a good woman brother stay strong 🤣
@@jmanyall123 as hard as finding a unicorn
@@Wolf-bz6kq I'm smelling some beta Male.... if you dont think you can change your own girls mind stay seated leaves more the rest of us
@@jmanyall123 by all means, I'll stick to whores at least u know what they're after
@@jmanyall123 lol you're shaming men because they don't want to go back to the plantation with you?
Lol..
"Girls, just wanna have lunch. Don't ask em for dinner, or breakfast, or brunch, cause girls, just wanna have lunch"
- Weird Al 😅
I'm an untraditional man.
I have no career ambitions and want nothing more than to be a stay at home father.
I expect women to pay for my meal on dates...
I'm also single.
@Max Powers That is so true. When a man cheats, he is a sleaze bag A-hole. When a women cheats, it's because he is neglecting her?
There is a serious lack of accountability on the wahman side. Most messed up things is, all the women than have a pity party helping her justify why her husband is an a-hole for working excessively so they can maintain living the lifestyle she is so accustomed.
There is a spend Gap between men and women. Women need to start paying for Men's meals to reduce the enormous spend Gap deficit that currently stands @ 80% in favor of women.
Patriarchy: the guy pays for everything
Feminism: the guy still pays for everything but i get to tell everyone i'm strong independant and i paid for my Chanel bag mysef (after he paid all the bills).
Spot on, spot on
One third of women ADMIT this so what's the real number?
All of them at some point in their lives
If I ask a women out I automatically pay. I like to dictate where I'm going to eat.
william householder first date I almost always go out to eat at a benihana’s, teriyaki steakhouse, or other hibachi style restaurants. Because it’s dinner and a show, you’re almost always placed with other groups that you don’t know so you almost never have the awkward silence and poor pauses and if the date goes sour you still get a good meal for a decent price
A Bellator take them to McDonald’s, here’s a pro-tip. You save 50 cents by bringing your own buns.
@@abellator7560 Ive done that. There is another place like benihana if you live near los angeles thats better. yamato resturant in santa clarita. Took a few there in my college days
Traditionalist or feminist when it's convenient as always. And then they cry "where are all the good men?"
*all the good men have left this chat*
This is what is probably happening
We're hiding because none of us want to be around these ingrates.
Remember Paula Cole singing "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone" at Lilith Fair?
all the good men got crucified or got cleaned out
I thought this was obvious. To quote Coilette from Futurama:
"You never went on a date with a guy just because you were hungry?"
I thought I'd like him better on a full stomach.
Milton: There is no such thing as a free lunch
Thot: Hold my cosmopolitan
Robert Anderson as somebody with an economics background LOL.
Fix it-
Male: so when do you eat dinner?
Female: about 7
Male: so I'll meet you at 9 for drinks.
AndreS123_03 oof lol
😂
Still a week late
😂
Text me around 10 after your shitfaced.
I was first introduced to this concept way back in High School in 1978 when my then girlfriend informed me, "I would go out with anyone---whether I liked him or not---- in exchange for a free meal".
If you've been in the dating scene for any amount of time then you know that this is EXTREMELY common.
BallTistic Screecher Coffee only?
My preferred first date approach is me just skipping to the chase and not contacting them in the first place, let alone wasting my time and money on a date.
You see, when you go your own way, your finances tend to go along with you. Quite advantageous, really.
And that, my friends is what I call a pro gamer move.
Why not a movie date just pay 4 the tickets and popcorn but NOTHING ELSE!!!
Progressive women expecting something for free? Shocking.
This is what happens in a failing economy. As it falls, people want free crap since they believe that the next currency will meet the same fate as this one.
History repeats, whether you know about it or not.
We know about it , buy your own meal .
@@ceejay8775 Better yet, make your own instead.
Making your own meal can be cheaper, or healthier in certain cases (Baked fries are better than frying fries, IMO).
United Communications unltd. No fries are better than baked fries ;-)
Also gents if you wanna see the social stigma about how you're expected to pay for the date just see how quickly you're gonna get called cheap by your friends even family and definitely the girl and her friends if you simply ask for the check to be split
Literally had a girl tell me that she was expecting me to pay for a date and when I asked ok I just drove an hour to meet you bc you didn't wanna meet halfway I cleared my schedule for a day that works for you and I WAS planning on paying for our drinks at least what am I getting out of this? She says "my company"
And I looked her dead in the face and asked her why my company isn't worth it to her to meet me halfway on anything she basically had the mindset that bc she was choosing to pay attention to me that was the big payoff. Keep in mind I had two classes with this girl and saw her almost every day anyway....I'm just like nope sorry I'm not going down this road
I mean that would be true if they were good company that wouldn't be a problem, but then again if she was she would of been the least bit cooperative.
I couldn't keep a straight face and would probably burst out laughing if anyone would say something like that to me.
Some time ago back when i still attended to school i had a girl make very straightforward advances to me...to put it in more civil words than she did and then started demanding for something she wanted in the first place.
I was like 'kthxbai'.
The worst thing about this is that she was the one i would have expected this sort of behavior the least of of all the others before of whom i just didn't feel much attracted to but at least behaved in a sane manner.
Nope, had to ruin it trying to get me into fights that i never even do due to AvPD and lack of reason, much less because some entitled bich said so, lol.
Would rather die than give an inch to these types.
Wonder why women freak out whenever a story about sex dolls or an artificial womb is released? They know what they're doing!
Women... so its women. Not men hating fems. Ok. This video is just a damn meal dont act like you all dont manipulate to get da booty. Lmao. Plus I was told its who ever asks someone to go..the one who invites someone to dinner pays.
@@birdsong985 Except that's also bs because the man is also always the one who has to ask, because even though 'equality' exists, men are still expected to be the ones to ask people out, it's extremely rare that women ever ask a guy out. Women want their cake and to eat it too.
They are not so woried about sex dolls as they are about sex robots.
Because it diminishes their leveraging power.
Pocket pussy?
Super excited for the Gilette commercial addressing this.
A guy is shaving for his date. The girl remains on her phone the entire time. She half eats her plate. She leaves with another guy hand in hand, looking like she’s gonna give him the V. Guy sits there.
“Gillette: for the most you’re gonna get.”
"Be the man we want you to be."
Now do the one about women's dating profiles with a full list of qualifiers and Hoops to jump through for the privilege of buying the food.
c ben I saw a tinder profile that said “don’t message me unless you’re black” lmao
@@Moneyman-33 Let me guess, a white woman.
I love those profiles. "You have to be a homeowner, have a minimum of a bachelor's degree or graduate degree(preferred), must be 6'2" or taller and have no kids"
Its almost like they are looking for an employee and not a mate. These women are an instant left swipe
@@toeey1 And that profile is really living in a rundown apartment, never finished HS, is 5'2" and has at least 2 kids. I learned that the hard way.
Echo Whiskey Yep
Ah but wasn't the man paying the bills considered as "toxic masculinity?" Again, the goalposts have shifted.
It's all Calvinball in the end.
Remind me again why Millennials (including myself) aren't getting married? It's a real mystery guys, I don't think we can figure it out!
Blame the system not the people.
@@blargblarg-jargon9607 the establishment offers you a contract and you signed the contract don't deflect, what's the point in giving you rights when you will hold yourself accountable let alone responsible for your own actions you entitled mellenial selfish POS.
Blarg Blarg-Jargon
HPD
Blarg Blarg-Jargon
Histrionic Personality Disorder= not relationship material. It’s overwhelmingly women. The “men” that have it are most often gay. That’s the super majority.
Blarg Blarg-Jargon
No we’ll Blame both the Personally irresponsible & the legal system. Both are guilty.
Sounds sexist. Let her pay for her meal. Anything you do is wrong anyway. If you use the bathroom, take extra time and complain about the wait.
All they do is complain and have nothing to offer!
That's only the 33% that openly admit it. It's actually more like 90+%.
100% of women is the correct answer it is biologically programmed in them!
then there is me .. always paying and a woman... ALWAYS ugh I go broke for men and they use me... but ya celibate now
Its weird how something like this happens in a feminism's Mecca, meanwhile in my "backward" central european country, where feminism is virtually non existent in the mainstream, its unimaginable that woman would be expecting to not pay for her meal. I could be wrong, thats just my experience. Never been in such situation.
Hispanic women are the way to go. They might ask you to watch soccer but not women soccer at least.
White women tho. Most entitled people on the planet
I think its time to have a conversation about “toxic femininity”
"This local Trendy seafood place."
Ah....i see where this went wrong.
👌
Haha, that’s true, I never thought about that angle
Been living this story for 20 years. That's why I just have expensive hobbies now.
This guy knows what's up
Much easier to control how much is being spent that way, right? Probably cheaper overall, too, now that I think about it.
@John Kevin lost over 25gs on an ex girlfriend. Between 4 wrecked cars, paying nearly all of the rent for almost 1 year and half, buying most of the food, and only getting an xbox and some sex out of the whole thing.... this is all true on so many levels
MGTOW guys. Just be a MGTOW.
WHY? because you get something in return?
Tim "I'm not paying for your food" Pool. Legendary.
Hahahaha
Like he dates women !! LMFAO !!
"unless you are conservative"
@@DirtyMagurt has has one right now actually.... lmao?
Whoever makes the invitation pays. She made the invitation. Technically, she should've picked up the entire ticket. The guy is right, he was being nice by paying for his share.
Men still pay for dinner? What about equality? 🧐
Easy fix... build a rateing system for tinder. Treat it like Uber, rate both sides.
You ever hear about the site a guy set up where you can put a profile on a woman up, say how she screwed you, different names she's known under and anything she tries to hide (kids etc). It was used to stop guys being burnt by gold diggers. Feminists got it shut down under sexism laws. Then created a male version a few months later which apparently still exists today.
And women wonder why men don't wanna get married.
If she's interested in me as a person, she can manage 10 minutes of 'real' conversation over a coffee.
.... As for the "foodie call," its not even about the money; its about the lack of respect ...
ldl147 Women who objectify men for stability, or in this case - food - (like, wtf?) treat us like some sort of a "wish a sponsor without being a whore" fundation...
Little does she know...
This. I moved to SEA a few months ago, met a nice woman and we hit it off right away. Not all women objectify. She even insists on paying for dinner sometimes. It's all a matter of respect on both parties.
Feminism works such that men retain all traditional responsibility and obligation plus have more added on.
Feminism also wants women to have no responsibility but benefit fro male working for them like a tyrannical queen. Feminism is absolutely a sexist female supremacist movement.
tagert
Oh yeah???? That’s odd. I thought feminism has allowed men to get laid with many different women without any commitment. Men nowadays enjoy one night stands, girlfriends who sleep with them without being married etc. And many many men who knock a girl up don’t stick around. These problems are created by both sexes. Both are to blame.
@@k8tdydsk886 no they enjoy rape accusations and outrage culture. Honestly as a guy i would LOVE to be a stay at home dad seems like a sweet deal.
@@k8tdydsk886 The work environment you described was completely made up. Whenever females are in position of authority incompetence is rewarded and masculinity is punished.
@@k8tdydsk886 SOME men enjoy that. The same small percentage of men that ALWAYS enjoyed it. Feminism didn't change that. These are the exciting and dangerous men. These men would traditionally be avoided by many women because of the downside risk. Because they could end up left unmarried with a kid and no support. Feminism has removed the social stigma and put the state at work to mitigate the downside risk.
Add to this birth control and on demand abortion and the risk for women who choose to indulge themselves has dropped dramatically. So yes, feminism allows a small portion of men to enjoy what they always have enjoyed, maybe enjoy it more because the field has increased in size.
Respect is not mutual at all Tim, respect is earned and not inherently deserved by any one
Participation trophies are worthless after all. Show that you are a kind person who respects people's time, money and boundaries.
Now that is Truth my friend very well said
People don't understand that they deserve courtesy, but ought to earn respect.
Yeah, every time i hear the "respect whamen (or group of choice)", i say
1 - respect is earned
2 - respect is a two way street
3 - I respect individuals, not groups
4 - If someone wants respect, better have a better reason for it than "muh vagina"
"You have to excuse me. I'm biracial, dropped out of school, lean left (sometimes fall over), have little hair on my head, and some other things I can't say or YT will demonetize me."
“I didn’t bring any money.”
WELL! Good luck! Start washing dishes in the kitchen!
Me: Are you a feminist?
Date: Yes
Me: *starts standing so incredibly still that I become invisible*
I practice quantum super positioning. In the time it takes them to blink, I rearrange all of my atoms from that one position to another, somewhere else.
Parrotshootist maybe I should learn to do that..
Not all women with feminists views are the dumb ass sjw's.. I consider myself a feminist but it's for equality, right across the board.. I can pay my own way.. if a woman hits a man, she should be hit back.. I believe in "do unto others as you would want done unto you" and that goes for men or women.
Bmore Queen
Equality assumes the 2 genders are the same, which they are not, therefore the only way it can be achieved is by forcing people which doesn’t work well
Abel Ramos please do not mistake feminism with feminazism or mgtow:)
Both of the above comes form anger and fear.
MGTOW called this over 15 years ago
Well... the turtle ain't wrong
MGTOW - have sex with women and don't commit....NOTHING NEW THERE!
@baby turtle true
So they managed to put "psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism" in the same sentence as "traditional gender role beliefs."
That's some top-tier social engineering,
I'll tell ya what.
I caught that too. Had to listen a second time to be sure that's what really was said.
If 1/3 admits it, that means it’s closer to 50%. some women will deny it , but there is no reason for those that admit it lie.
When you get older, you learn more how the world REALLY works, what it's really like. Not what media tells you its like. Why do you think nobody's politics becomes more left as they get older. The utopia only exists in the classroom-
Note men go to jail for doing this. You know this is proof the boogie man (patriarchy) doesn't exist
Jeannette’s Daddy! Bam he passed you the ball you went for the LAYUP goddamn
@@CygnusOrb Being invited out does NOT come with the guarantee that your stuff will be paid for.
If you actually believe that, then you have a lot to learn about a lot of things
@@CygnusOrb Wut
@@CygnusOrb You know deep down, that a women doing the same thing he did, would have most likely not even have been pursued as a crime. If the police were called, they probably would have just said to the man to pay.
Men.... never pay for dinner on the first date. Equality
Always meet for coffee on a first date...
@@Johnny.1965 Good tip for people
@@Johnny.1965 first date, coffee and chat. second date, dinner she can pay for. beyond that, anything goes.
Show up early and buy your coffee, they are usually late anyways so let them pay for themselves
I have this policy, and I can tell you based on experience, 90% of the time, that will end any potential you had - Fortunately, at that point, nothing of value was lost, because the potential you ruined was to be taken advantage of by a greedy, judgemental, egotistical, narcissistic sociopath who, in the long run, would likely attempt to ruin your life once you cease to be useful. So, yeah - Easiest way to dodge a bullet is by having that conversation before you go on the date...
Don't pay until you're in an actual relationship, rule of thumb.
realmenwearcamo So you just wack off all day? Become chad. Problem solved.
I indented to pay for dinner but every woman I've dated paid for half, because I date decent human beings.
I won't pay till I'm with her for at least a year.
I never pay, ever, period. If they leave me because I'm cheap that's fine, all they get from me is a sperm deposit.
My go to first date was a short hike and a picnic. Nothing fancy, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, something to drink, and a semi-quiet place to talk with a good view, but with enough people around that they don't feel uncomfortable or unsafe.
....and women ask "why can't I find a decent guy???" ....it's because YOU aren't a decent woman!!!
dont invest money in a relationship untill there is confirmed emotional investment by both people
I'd say have a thorough read of her service history before you sign your soul away.
good luck getting womens intersst without a down payment.
I’m a male teacher and I make 3-5 percent more due to coaching a sport and providing a specific training that I receive a stipend for every time I give it
Ahhhh........Masculinity and meritocracy. We actually get what we earn. Femininity and privilege.......you know the rest
A friend of mine who is a girl goes on about three dates with different men a week she meets on dating apps... I told her if I went on that many dates, I would be broke!
Plot twist: She didn't believe you.
@@jasondyrkacz8270 nah i think she does, thats why shes just friends with him.
@Thelondonbadger never bring one nighters back to your place! Don't make friends with women. They treat their female friends terrible and treat men they love like they're rodents. Don't befriend them. They can't be good friends.
Just tell every woman you want to fuck, that you like her and would be interested in fucking her. If she does anything other than ask to leave with you or ask where you want to go. Turn around and LEAVE. These women offer NOTHING. Especially if you're just using them for pussy. Why go through all that effort lol.. Why put yourself, your home etc at risk? Don't spend a dime, don't treat them any better than they treat you. You will not have trouble getting laid, and life will be SO MUCH EASIER!
y r u friends with trash like that?
When I was dating, I'd always meet up for a coffee first. £10 is an acceptable loss.
That is very smart
So THIS is the male privilege! :) I finally get it.
"Respect is earned, not given away."
-Lt.Cmdr Worf & Tim Pool.
fml I remember that scene..
Respect is earned exactly when it is given.
Had a woman do that recently. We had a couple dates, I bought her meals, and then she ghosted me.
From now on I tell them to pay for their half, or it's a no go.
It's not same job same pay. It's equal performance equal pay. And that's what we have been doing, that's why there's a difference in pay.
randy osborne
thats not even true. a man and a woman could be in the same position, working the same hours, but the man outperforms the woman. theyll both get the same pay though...
i worked in warehouses where women would have men do all the heavy work and they get the same pay
@@Chaso-1124 You are right. I worked on the freight docks and a girl would work there and get all the fluff freight from the trailer, then a man would have to come after her and unload the heavy freight from that same trailer. And the pay was the same.
nightstalker1124 I had a lady get upset with me at work because I refused to carry a heavy box to her work station for her, I told her that was a part of her job and she wasn’t paying me to do her work.
They are both working indentured slave jobs for useless fiat money, so really who is in the wrong? Big businesses that sell you your life and suck ut out 8 hours a day, thats who.
No no no. Same race, same medal. Everyone should be on gold on the podium. Equality man...
Only 1/3 were honest enough to fess up.
At least in that case both people are getting something out of it.
Whatever happened to "Women need men like fish need a bicycle."?
Such strength and independence. Surely, they don't need no man.
Seriously.
Dreddy G.
When women feel there is inequality where there isn’t: “we don’t need men.”
The moment they realize they have more responsibility and expenses because of what they wanted: “we need men”
Of course, they don´t need men, they just need/want their money :)
How did the saying go?
"You can't notice your privilege until you lose it"?
Ladies getting angry at men non paying their meals, welcome to the world of gender equality.
EDIT: generally if you are the one asking someone out, you are the one who is expected to pay for the meal, doesn't matter if you are a woman who asked a man out (at least in Italy).
If possible I would always go for separate bills (not split as generally could be interpreted as split in half).
How do you make a hormone?
Answer:
Refuse to pay her... :D
Sword Art Online, or Sore Tart Online... can never remember which is the more entertaining.
seems to me whoremongers enjoy whores
@@kfoster3616
Amen to that, friend!
Proverbs 23:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.
As a gay best friend, I know it's more than 1/3. Most of them have loads of men under "free food". Guys who are genuinely really good dude
I'll pay for the meal but she'd better suck it
LemonZeppelin yeah. That ain't happening
How can you be friends with women like that? I'm a woman and I would dump those friends, that's gross af.
@@AutomaticDuck300 see some of my friends established that's what they'd do, a trade of services.
@@5050TM try and teach them the error of their ways. Most of these girls get by in life by acting very flirty and dont understand that they are giving men all the right signs, saying no and then say "he wanted to buy me food" as an excuse. Like no you're misleading them and it's bad. Some open their eyes and it clicks that they are doing something off, others are shallow twats lol
And people wonder what MGTOW is about...
"It's an interesting thot I suppose" - Tim Pool
"Looked at my bill $15 looked at her bill $44." Wtf I even had alcohol and a steak. Did she pick the most expensive item on the menu?
Just another shit test. She probably ordered $30 in alcohol alone.
Easy... "2 checks please"
She is a oppressed gender and deserves it
But she is also a strong independent woman who does not need no man
@@scottmurphy4946 Who has kids just so the government gives her money and other free shit.
She order an black and white steak, with an 15$ wine. Ending with some expensive desert.
American women- aren't they just the greatest?
women*
DId yOU JuST AsSuME tHat ThEY IdeNtify aS fEmALE
@@Playerofakind If it pretends to like you long enough to bilk a free meal off you, it definitely identifies as a woman. You'll understand when you're older.
Greatest? I think you mean biggest
@@Hannixander synonymous
And this, Tim... is why you have:
Men
Going
Their
Own
Way.
Budget Coin Hunter yup, you’re entirely right about that entirely.
Singing~ "A Bachelor's Life, is a Wonderful life."
"A Bachelor's life for me." X)
Rational response to this madness
The dudes who insist that they're "going their own way" usually just continue to whine about women. Nothing wrong with deciding you're done with dating/women/relationships/whatever, but then let it friggin' go.
When anyone brings up the wage gap, I bring up the death gap. 90+% of workplace fatalities are men. Step up your game ladies!
"I don't care anymore." "I really have no time for this" Tim going his own way.
sadly its the wrong way, and one of these days he will learn the hard lesson.
@@5226-p1e Yes, like when he doesn't get sentenced for mere allegations by a woman. Such regret.
@@5226-p1e Well, technically you're right. Things _shouldn't_ be this way. However, this is one of many natural reactions of the social breakdown between the sexes.
I literally laughed out loud when tim said he wasn't paying for her meal.
I was a little surprised to hear that, good for him.
What makes it even funnier is he won't pay for a "liberal" woman, but will for a traditonal woman.
He has never not voted for Democrat types, and even he is red pilled enough to know how toxic leftist women are. 😂
Haskel Swain - me too lol I love it!!!
Glad I’m happily married. Dating must suck now. I feel sorry for my young sons.
As the only conservative in austin TX, just finding a woman without mental illness is mythical.
@@taylorbrooks9507
god bless Texas. lol I'm sorry for your loss.
Im Dutch, women all over the west have gone crazy.
Have 2 kids (girls ofc), adults now.
Divorced when they were young.
Havent dated in 14 years. Its far too dangerous. Learned my lesson after being burnt 3 times and ended up in prison bc of them.
I loved women, but nowadays hate most.
StofStuiver Sorry brother, that’s some rough stuff. Hopefully you still have a good relationship with your daughters.
If I hadn’t found my current wife I’d most likely be MGTOW now.
@BallTistic Screecher Thats a load of friggin lies. Open your eyes man. Or wtf are you anyway. Piss off.
Yup, I was a participant in a "food-bye" or "foodie call" as they now call it, twice. It's ok, next foodie call, she is gonna wonder how long my bathroom break is gonna take as I'm driving down the street.
I bet it is WAAAY more than 1/3. It doesnt just happen with dinner either. Vacations, gifts, and favors are some of the other things women coax out of men they have no romantic interest in.
Goodness. Why in the world would you pay for/ gon on a vacation with a woman you arent eplicitly sleeping with???
There's a term for this, gold digger.
Don't even look at the stats for paternity fraud... Foodie calls are nothing when compared to paying 18+ years for child support for a child for a kid that isnt yours. Then theres being emotionally involved with a child you find out you were lied to about.
@@xexkansichi both men and women do this. It's called being a con artist and they will often fuck someone to seal the deal on more expensive shit
Could be that the 33% are just very prolific
1 in 3 women lie on dates.
2 in 3 women lie on surveys.
Citations to back this up?
@Orlando Rotundo Meaning what? At 64 I've explored the world and the knowledge and wonders it offers. When you cite statistics you provide the source information.
I wasn't even addressing you but you just couldn't help yourself, could you?
@@JoanneSgrignoli * whoosh *
Joanne Sgrignoli, while I don't agree with Krishna, it is understood that surveys are a bad way to receive data in statistics. Every class I've taken has hammered in the fact that people will not answer truthfully if they doubt they will be completely anonymous. Similar to "give a man a mask, and he'll show you who he really is" mentality.
So it is possible the number is higher, and from personal experience I have met more girls my age who have no regard for having a good time at dinner, and instead just sit on their phones and ignore me till after the bill is coming, then leave and never talk to me again. But I do know plenty of girls I've really enjoyed going on dates on, that in most cases offer to pay for their halfs, to which I usually decline as I initiated the date in most cases.
I think it's important to understand that some people lie when it's in their best interest, and that on the other side of the coin, not 100% of people are manipulative.
@@JoanneSgrignoli 64 years old and still an idiot, the guy was making a joke. You do know what that is right?