You can't use VR lying down!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.พ. 2024
- Why can't I use VR lying down? Virtual reality headsets have tons of accessibility features but seemingly none of them that support laying down in bed. Almost every headset has some basic screen repositioning but that doesn't help you with the menus in app. The Oculus Quest had a hardware level laying down support that was later removed. Vive has nothing that works at the moment. It seems like none of the big brand headsets are supporting this no-brainer accessibility feature.
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I have a Quest 3 and had some lower back pain flair up recently. I would absolutely love to be easily able to use VR to at least watch video lying down. I can lie on my back and watch TH-cam by dragging the screen up into my vision but it’s a little awkward. Lying on your side doesn’t work because the video doesn’t rotate and 360 video can’t be reoriented at all. This is honestly the top feature that I want in VR right now. It seems crazy that even a 4k device that’s a portable screen strapped to your face has such severe limitations like not being able to use it while lying down.
You summed up my entire emotional response in one paragraph
@@Drift0r Ya. I bought an Oculus Go when that first appeared in '17 or '18 and was surprised that watching a video in bed with it was so hard. I understand why gaming support might be lacking, but really video support should be easy and there is no excuse for the lack of support there, IMO.
I was messing around today and discovered that Skybox lets you lock the screen to your head position. You can lie down, on your side, wherever and it just works. This doesn’t apply to the menus however so starting and swapping between videos is not ideal.
Virtual desktop from the Oculus Store allows you to use your computer laying down in many different VR environments! Making it so you can do anything on a computer while laying down, and a gaming computer isn't needed. Any modern computer is supported.
@@slvnice Out of curiosity, does it support Mac?
As a Valve Index owner for over 3 years, I am surprised that support for lying down on bed doesn't exist.
The idea of lying in bed and watching content in VR is what originally drove me to buy a VR headset. I was also disappointed by this massive oversight.
Im not fully disabled, but I have semi-frequent bad days and the very least ive ever found is using virtual desktop to make my computer monitor above me when laying down. This doesnt solve the issue of VR apps, but it let's me at least use my PC in bed and watch whatever I want that way.
VR Chat has a mode for laying down as well I believe, but its the only app that I know that does as an extra feature. Pillow is an app meant for laying down, so its not like it can't be done intuitively
Having been a VR user for several years, VR accessibility has been something that has thankfully been improving over the years, but I will say that its a bit shocking that there's not full laying down support, especially when Oculus/Meta had it and then removed it. One could hope they are developing something for the quest 3, but that's just a hope.
My only suggestion, which I'm sure you have tried, would be to look at OVR advanced settings and see if they have anything that could work. Either way, that's still a third party solution. The only other thing I could think of is to get in contact with VR Content creators that play VR chat, as a lot of people play that game laying down to watch a movie, etc.
I know I might just be a random commenter, but Ill try asking around the VR community, and hopefully something comes up.
I wish you the best of luck with all of this, and hopefully you are able to find a solution soon!
I love to see these videos man.
Never thought of this being an issue before, but it does really ask the question as to why it isn't widely available
V63 is rolling this out today
Wat?
I 100 percent would love more support for laying down. Just let me drag a video / movie up to my ceiling or wherever I want it
Never thought about it but that is a terrific idea!!!
I could be talking out of my hind end here but as a long time viewer that can for once suggest something that might be seen and help. VRchat I believe has this feature. If you mix that in with a few of the worlds that allow you to use a youtube player or web browser. You would be able to watch at least normal videos while laying down. I don't think it works with 360 degree videos and you aren't getting as nice of a screen and empty room background like the youtube app. You can also run it standalone on the quest if you can't be plugged into a computer with your current setup so small benefit there. It is at least a small workaround for now while we wait for someone to do a more dedicated solution. I know many disabled people use VRchat so I would assume this feature still works and worlds like movie and chill have those integrated youtube players. Not a perfect solution but at least I can offer something while we wait for a better solution to present itself.
Thabk you for the tip!
I was gonna say this as well, tho with the caveat that video players in VRchat leave a bit to be desired, it still should be functional for your purposes. there's actually quite a few worlds with TVs at comfortable angles while laying down, VRchat sorta has a whole community around basically hanging out in VR with their friends endlessly. The videoplayers also support watching streams as well, and some worlds even have entire TV shows and movies baked in, stuff that can actually be kinda hard to find elsewhere. it might be hard to nagivate at certain times, a lot of worlds have their custom stuff on menus in the wall, but many worlds also feature custom handheld menus you can grab and keep with you so you can use them when not near the main controls on the wall, or in your case, while laying down. its a mixed bag since everything is kinda custom made... and i guess technically you could commission a VRchat world maker to design you something that meets all your needs, come to think of it.
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i never even considered using vr while laying down but yeah they should work on that, seems like a good idea
if this is so, then it's an oversight of impossibly huge proportions. Which is to say, they don't have it, not because they don't want to include it but because enacting this feature would involve redesigning the entire software infrastructure.
It's an issue with gyroscope, sdk tends to be set up based on a floor, and so almost all apps are built using that model, and also most people ceilings don't have enough unique points to hold tracking properly. So it's not a easy thing to solve. Apps would have to be designed with a lay down mode, where you have minimal control, likely just buttons no controller tracking, and the view would be static and move as you move which is uncomfortable if you do move. But it is possible.
i've wondered this for so long to. i feel like its a no brainer.
it'd be so nice to have a giant virtual screen on your ceiling and to watch your favorite shows or to enjoy your favorite games.
especially since you can stream your games on steam to your quest and even the apple vision pro.
"You can't use VR lying down."
*So no VR s3x?*
I watched a couple of Amazon shows in my quest 3 basically laying down, maybe a little upright. I think your solution here is seated play if you want to game.
The reason laying down gaming doesn’t work is the orientation of the world and the lack of a floor relative to the headset’s orientation. This can break a few games as it basically cannot detect your height which could be exploited in multiplayer games.
I can not be seated amy more than than I can stand. It has to be fully horizontal or nothing.
Use virtual desktop in the nebula environment, and reposition your screen however you like, though having said that, I'm not sure the keyboard would also rotated with screen when you try to search for something, but you could use on microsoft onscreen keyboard... but yes, I couldn't agree more with you, this should be wide adapted as an option, both for viewing games or movies, granted, playing games would be more difficult in terms of moving your head, but, still, would be a nice option.
For the price of these devices, it seems like a complete no-brainer.
I pretty much only use my Quest 2 & Quest 3 while laying down with Big Screen, TH-camVR (ASMR mostly, there's a youtube channel called ASMR Lisa & she has some videos for laying down) & Netflix, i do wish i could play games while laying down tho.
mutahar slept in minecraft for months i'm pretty sure
If you can get hold of an old Oculus Go Headset it may be the answer to your problem.
The browser works perfectly while laying down. You can orient the screen to match any position you are laying in.. even on your side.
It's fallen out of support at this point but I still have and use mine daily for this specific purpose. It's my bed rig..
It doesn't work for some apps like Skybox and Netflix, but the browser works perfectly!!
It's odd that Meta didn't continue with this feature.
Good luck!!
If I had to hazard a guess, and mind you I don’t genuinely know the specifics behind how vr headsets work, but I would say it’s probably more complicated than just simply repositioning the screens. As to WHY that’s the case, I’m not knowledgeable enough to answer that but I do think it’s likely a much more complicated issue than it sounds on a technical level
VRchat Settings > Horizon Adjust
I don’t see why this wouldn’t work with the AVP. Just pin the window on your ceiling?
That was like the 2nd thing i tried after beat saber. I saw the TH-cam app and I was like okay cool i can lay in the bed and watch TH-cam. Nope. On the quest 2 you pull things up and make the boundary level at the level you're laying down at. But any actual apps are just not going to recognize what is happening and make you feel teeny tiny. I couldn't even reach the box to see the pistols in pistol whip.
What? I just assumed you could watch a movie lying down.
I need VR.
immersed on the quest 3 works fine while horizontal ! i worked 1 hr this morning in bed
Good to know that! my main goal is to get the quest 3 for immersed to code while laying down.
I've been using my Meta Quest 3 while laying down on the couch and using a small throw pillow against the arm rest and I can comfortably watch TH-cam VR. I have to re-adjust my boundrys to make it work. I also found playing GameCube ROMs on an emulator on the headset also fine.
I just got a update on Quest 2 with laying down mode it says its only for Quest 2 and Quest Pro
@WorldHayes-VR I'm just using stationary mode used for sitting, and it's been working perfectly fine for me.
You can now with quest 2
I can’t believe this. I am able-bodied, and would like to occasionally listen to ASMR in bed. For me, it’s only the TH-cam VR app that’s problematic. Other players will adjust to whatever direction I aim my face/the headset. (Using a Quest 2). I play a boardgame, and it’s the same deal- the field of vision reorients to whatever direction I face.
Am I missing something in thinking that this can be fixed with an app update? Especially since TH-cam videos aren’t interactive. We literally just watch.
Kinda off topic but your shirt is super funny
I just got my quest 3 and when i layed down and it went to passthrough and none of the menus worked i was so upset
Same
it is supported!!
Do you think that this was done intentionally, so that kid's do not get the habit of being stuck in VR while laying down for too long. Just a thought... But yes I agree that there should be support for people with disabilities or injuries.
I can’t use my VR without getting motion sick.
Yea after being a truck driver for a long time I want to lay down and I have to sit up write not that fun haha
what're those LED pictures behind you called?
I custom built them
@@Drift0r nice! how did you built them? is there a tutorial on youtube?
I use my Quest 2 while laying down. Try youtube in the browser
How the heck does a one month old video from someone with 1.5 million subscribers have only 6k views‽
Three years of irregular and out of genre uploads because of illness.
bigscreen app has a laying down option
Big screen VR? The custom VR headset company that makes the super tiny HMD?
I'm able to watch youtube vr and watch videos in the web browser while laying down in passthrought without issues on the quest 3.
Are the videos VR, or are they flat-screen videos through the VR headset?
Maybe im just to hopefull, but isnt this something a company like steam would work on, gabe litteraly has an open email anybody can email to, looking at their hardware work with the steam deck now and the masive amount of software work they put into that, and the rumoured work on a new headset, i can imagine that Gabe if he was notified of this he would be like "well, that was something we totaly overlooked, il have a look at this"
It might be nothing, but hey maybe you can send him an email with some short text explenation and link the video about the issue.
Embrace your inner boomer and invest in a good recliner
I can't use recliners at all. They are more painful than being on fire.
@@Drift0r What exactly about a recliner is more painful than laying down on a bed?
@@sprocastersprocaster Based on the many medical updates over the years, he seems to exhibit classic hypochondria symptoms. That said, certain tick-borne illnesses, such as Lyme Disease, can over time create anatomic and physiological issues which seem like they are caused by disparate diseases.
He’s role playing disabled lol. Some weird leftist thing, wants people to feel bad for him.
what els we do laying down in vr ? 😏
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Hi Can you send me your quest 2 or 3 please?
Lmao
Your hypochondriacism gonna hafta chill so you can sit up
Apple vision lets you do it laying down
recently got a quest 2 and it worked for emulation and laying down, but for actual vr games nah.
the whole point of vr is to be able to move about and interact using your body why the hell would they design a headset to go against the very idea the tech was was based on
tho it would be great if headsets had better built in tracking for supine and prone positions would add some nice possibilities for moving about in games