Thank you for the video. I cohosted a podcast to help Mormons come to Christ and find their place in Christianity, as God saved me from Mormonism. I was a member of a Reformed Baptist church and was under the oversight of my elders the entire time who encouraged me. I have been told by my elders and others that I have a gift for teaching, and I had intentions to do seminary as there are many options for Reformed and Reformed Baptists. However, my wife and I became convinced of Lutheran beliefs and attend a LCMS church now. I don't know whether continuing the podcast is a good idea for the reason that I don't want to overstep as a layperson. I don't think seminary is an option for me as a LCMS member as I live far from Fort Wayne and St. Louis and I have a wife and baby on the way, so moving isn't an option. I was a bit disappointed to learn this, but it's been a lesson in humility that God brought me here. I wouldn't give up the Lutheran faith just because it doesn't fit my previous aspirations or even gifts; God has a reason and plan for everything, so I'm trusting in him. I pray for those who are in seminary and in the ministry as they are desperately needed. May God bless them in their calls to the Holy Ministry.
My objection to the Wolfmueller Denominational Theory is that denominational description is just that; it's description and generally doesn't assume the truth or falsity or strength or weakness of any particular denomination. Whether Methodists consider themselves an offshoot of Anglicanism is irrelevant; they are. Whether Orthodoxy considers itself the entire church or just a part of it is irrelevant. While I like Lutheranism much better than Methodism (let alone Orthodoxy), it can't escape what it is - a western church denomination that protests Rome and affirms the Reformation - on the basis of a self-selected denominational strength. Anglicans (excepting the most Catholic Anglo-Catholics, who reject the solas) are Protestants too. In other words, it's not about self-identification, it's about your objectively observable characteristics.
If you guys are treating non-pulpit teaching as separate from the office, should you refrain from conducting these podcasts in your uniform to avoid confusion with the audience?
That's an interesting question- I think it could possibly come off as deceptive if they were not clear in their mediate calling to the office of pastor, like how it would be deceptive of a layperson to claim ordination without actually having it.
@@TheOtherCalebyes! i think i remember hearing from him that he doesn’t want to seem like and online pastor when people should just be going to their real pastor for any guidance.
Can you guys touch in more on this modern evangelical perspective of spiritual warfare? I've been exposed to it my entire life (before lutheranism ) and it's a very pietistic and moralistic way of viewing God and the devil. For example if you look at your phone too much, the devils got you. It's all about you fighting sin and making the devil go away. It's really ridiculous, and it takes away the true joy of our Salvation
Lay people preaching is a non denominational requirement. You have to be a counterfeit pastor with no steady doctrinal confession at all. Get the sermon of false teaching online. Then mold it to fit your circus show of blaspheme every Sunday.
My opinion on the laypeople teaching online question. It's an easy question. The answer is no. We don't need you. There are enough pastors online. There is no need for laypeople to play at teacher. The Bible is pretty clear about the topic. You are not needed in the office, you just waste your time and mine. You potentially take clicks away from Pastor Wolfmueller and pastor Packer. Stay off the streets too say no to street preaching. The easiest verse to cherry pick is James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
Agree. Too many women teaching too, which is very wrong. We are commanded as women to teach other women to love their husbands and children. Never commanded to teach scripture.
I (a simple layman armed with Scripture) think it is more nuanced. I would agree that if one is to teach in the office of pastor, they should have a clear mediate calling. If they do not, they should not claim or make the appearance that they do. What I disagree with, is the notion that laity cannot teach in their own respective callings. Paul, in Colossians 3, speaks to "God's chosen ones" who are most appropriately identified as all Christians (v. 11) and exhorts them to "let the word of Christ dwell in you (ὑμῖν), teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom." It should be noted that the verbs 'teaching' and 'admonishing' (alongside the pronoun "you") are in the plural. If I am in the office of father, it is my imperative to teach my children God's words (Deut. 4:6). Does that mean that I have to be a pastor to be a father? Hymns oftentimes have teaching qualities to the lyrics. Does that mean I have to be a pastor to write a hymn? I'd think God works through all vocations, not only pastor. Nevertheless, there is a distinction between the priesthood of all believers (which compasses laity and pastors-Ex. 19:6; 1 Pt. 2:5,9) and those who are called to the Ministry (1 Timothy 3). The royal priesthood is not prohibited from teaching in informal settings, but overseers have the unique role of public, authoritative teaching in the Church (see AC XIV). There definitely would be some instances where public rebuke may be necessary (specifically by one trained and affirmed for that, ie: a pastor), but I don't claim to know all the answers. The argument, I think, is not so much whether laypeople should teach online, but to what extent they can while maintaining the unique authority given by God to the church.
Very informative. God's peace to all.
Thank you for the words from 10:57 to 11:12 on the problem of a defrocked person teaching publicly. I agree.
Welcome to “The Online Realm.” Pastor Packer is spot on!
Our children were baptized in the Triune name last Sunday at our LCMS church! Thank you for the discussion.
Congratulations 😊
Praise God
😢 Unbiblical!
@@astrid7987 what is?
That's wonderful!
Love these videos. Thank you so much for your hard work. A++++. God Bless All.
Thank you so much for this Q/A session.
Read pages 304 and 304 of the book of Concord
2:59 Amen.I,,the .7:19 ?Lutheran Congregation Support..? Only subjects of ELCA.
First! God Bless!
1 Corinthians 15:57 KJV
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
caught that CS Lewis reference
Did you have class this morning? I didn't get a notification
Thank you for the video. I cohosted a podcast to help Mormons come to Christ and find their place in Christianity, as God saved me from Mormonism. I was a member of a Reformed Baptist church and was under the oversight of my elders the entire time who encouraged me. I have been told by my elders and others that I have a gift for teaching, and I had intentions to do seminary as there are many options for Reformed and Reformed Baptists. However, my wife and I became convinced of Lutheran beliefs and attend a LCMS church now.
I don't know whether continuing the podcast is a good idea for the reason that I don't want to overstep as a layperson.
I don't think seminary is an option for me as a LCMS member as I live far from Fort Wayne and St. Louis and I have a wife and baby on the way, so moving isn't an option. I was a bit disappointed to learn this, but it's been a lesson in humility that God brought me here.
I wouldn't give up the Lutheran faith just because it doesn't fit my previous aspirations or even gifts; God has a reason and plan for everything, so I'm trusting in him. I pray for those who are in seminary and in the ministry as they are desperately needed. May God bless them in their calls to the Holy Ministry.
My objection to the Wolfmueller Denominational Theory is that denominational description is just that; it's description and generally doesn't assume the truth or falsity or strength or weakness of any particular denomination.
Whether Methodists consider themselves an offshoot of Anglicanism is irrelevant; they are. Whether Orthodoxy considers itself the entire church or just a part of it is irrelevant. While I like Lutheranism much better than Methodism (let alone Orthodoxy), it can't escape what it is - a western church denomination that protests Rome and affirms the Reformation - on the basis of a self-selected denominational strength. Anglicans (excepting the most Catholic Anglo-Catholics, who reject the solas) are Protestants too.
In other words, it's not about self-identification, it's about your objectively observable characteristics.
Melancthon was night a Dr. However, He had multiple masters degrees.
My question is, why has the Lutheran church(es) maintained a great silence on Luther's rabid and hateful anti-Semitism?
If you guys are treating non-pulpit teaching as separate from the office, should you refrain from conducting these podcasts in your uniform to avoid confusion with the audience?
Perhaps. They are not lay persons though
That's an interesting question- I think it could possibly come off as deceptive if they were not clear in their mediate calling to the office of pastor, like how it would be deceptive of a layperson to claim ordination without actually having it.
They're not in albs with stoles, that's a clear enough signal?
That’s the position that Dr. Cooper takes if I’m not mistaken.
@@TheOtherCalebyes! i think i remember hearing from him that he doesn’t want to seem like and online pastor when people should just be going to their real pastor for any guidance.
Can you guys touch in more on this modern evangelical perspective of spiritual warfare? I've been exposed to it my entire life (before lutheranism ) and it's a very pietistic and moralistic way of viewing God and the devil.
For example if you look at your phone too much, the devils got you. It's all about you fighting sin and making the devil go away. It's really ridiculous, and it takes away the true joy of our Salvation
I want a huge episode on this stuff too. Dawn Hill has done good videos on it and Jim Osman did a great series too.
James 2:7 do they not blaspheme that good name called over you?
They invoked the Name of Jesus.
Baptism is not tied to Godhead belief.
Lay people preaching is a non denominational requirement.
You have to be a counterfeit pastor with no steady doctrinal confession at all.
Get the sermon of false teaching online.
Then mold it to fit your circus show of blaspheme every Sunday.
LOL: (slightly modified) "Sponsored by Neurolink"
Evangelical catholic
My opinion on the laypeople teaching online question. It's an easy question. The answer is no. We don't need you. There are enough pastors online. There is no need for laypeople to play at teacher. The Bible is pretty clear about the topic. You are not needed in the office, you just waste your time and mine. You potentially take clicks away from Pastor Wolfmueller and pastor Packer. Stay off the streets too say no to street preaching.
The easiest verse to cherry pick is James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
It's typically the born again celebrity I think unfortunately
Agree. Too many women teaching too, which is very wrong. We are commanded as women to teach other women to love their husbands and children. Never commanded to teach scripture.
By giving your own opinion (over and against the two ordained pastors in this video) you are going against your own idea....
@@Bearthowlemew I'm not happy with our Deaconesses taking on teaching roles online either. Are you watching Higher Things?
I (a simple layman armed with Scripture) think it is more nuanced. I would agree that if one is to teach in the office of pastor, they should have a clear mediate calling. If they do not, they should not claim or make the appearance that they do.
What I disagree with, is the notion that laity cannot teach in their own respective callings. Paul, in Colossians 3, speaks to "God's chosen ones" who are most appropriately identified as all Christians (v. 11) and exhorts them to "let the word of Christ dwell in you (ὑμῖν), teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom." It should be noted that the verbs 'teaching' and 'admonishing' (alongside the pronoun "you") are in the plural.
If I am in the office of father, it is my imperative to teach my children God's words (Deut. 4:6). Does that mean that I have to be a pastor to be a father? Hymns oftentimes have teaching qualities to the lyrics. Does that mean I have to be a pastor to write a hymn? I'd think God works through all vocations, not only pastor.
Nevertheless, there is a distinction between the priesthood of all believers (which compasses laity and pastors-Ex. 19:6; 1 Pt. 2:5,9) and those who are called to the Ministry (1 Timothy 3). The royal priesthood is not prohibited from teaching in informal settings, but overseers have the unique role of public, authoritative teaching in the Church (see AC XIV). There definitely would be some instances where public rebuke may be necessary (specifically by one trained and affirmed for that, ie: a pastor), but I don't claim to know all the answers. The argument, I think, is not so much whether laypeople should teach online, but to what extent they can while maintaining the unique authority given by God to the church.