when low tiers are actually broken

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  • @woomigi_64
    @woomigi_64 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    That cut at the end had so much power.

  • @PresMan36
    @PresMan36 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    Sheik: Literally cannot kill anyone at 190 with conventional means.
    Piranha Plant: Can kill at 60 with max rage.
    Sheik = bottom tier
    Piranha Plant = high tier

    • @andresugalde916
      @andresugalde916 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I legit don't get what people see in Sheik

    • @SaulTeeNutz
      @SaulTeeNutz ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Shiek legitimately can’t kill lmao. I played friendlies against my friend as ganon. He played shiek, and I three stocked him and lived up to 205% 😭

    • @trongtran8951
      @trongtran8951 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Cause shiek has more tools interact in every situation in all MU, just lacks the kill.

    • @personpersonson7958
      @personpersonson7958 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@andresugalde916 Just watch Void. You will see.

    • @imsosirius3151
      @imsosirius3151 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@andresugalde916 Basically the combo game of Joker (better combo game than Joker tbh), just without the arsene kill power, so kills rely on really difficult drag-downs, some obscure kill confirms, the rare whiff, or edgeguards

  • @imsosirius3151
    @imsosirius3151 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Low tier characters are so fun to watch, there’s something different about seeing these guys optimized

    • @PrettyKoolCrocodile
      @PrettyKoolCrocodile ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know right

    • @dogboyton3166
      @dogboyton3166 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve been crushed by DK online too many times to say low tiers are useless

    • @michaeljohnson905
      @michaeljohnson905 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Anyone can play a brain-dead lucina, but it takes a special kind of insane to play a viable Dr. Mario or Isabelle
      Which is why they're so much more interesting for me to watch lol

    • @littlemacisunderrated412
      @littlemacisunderrated412 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaeljohnson905 not only that, but since low tiers are expected to be fodder, when they do win it’s always a shock.

  • @rubenduenas5881
    @rubenduenas5881 ปีที่แล้ว +484

    What makes SSBU great is that even characters considered "bad" can still win in the hands of a good player 🎮

    • @dogboyton3166
      @dogboyton3166 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I mean the only two characters I have in Elite Smash are Mii Swordfighter and Zelda. And no, it was not because I farmed someone for GSP, I’m actually pretty good with them
      Edit: They aren’t even my mains

    • @aidenawe9359
      @aidenawe9359 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Game is balanced

    • @littleolelonk4759
      @littleolelonk4759 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’s the situation of “you cant call this fighter bad if you don’t know how to play em”

    • @rubenduenas5881
      @rubenduenas5881 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@aidenawe9359 Yeah. When I played competitive Pokemon, it never felt this balanced

    • @aaronnoesoriginal
      @aaronnoesoriginal ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ganondorf is the best worst character ever by far.

  • @Metaknight180
    @Metaknight180 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I love seeing Dededes put in work, he's such a satisfying character to play.

    • @Giveloot
      @Giveloot ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As a ddd main myself I agree

    • @superfreddybrosespanol6781
      @superfreddybrosespanol6781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's because my boy Dedede is the King of the show so that's why!

  • @tsynthetic
    @tsynthetic ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Still can’t get over when Bassmage single-handedly got Jigglypuff out of bottom tier and couldn’t use them in a low tier only tournament

    • @maxpogfrog
      @maxpogfrog ปีที่แล้ว

      lmaoooooo that’s hilarious

  • @TheRedStinger82
    @TheRedStinger82 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    2:17 was my favorite part
    Seeing a Steve player get bodied makes me feel so happy for some reason

    • @Exodisiastiko
      @Exodisiastiko ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ikr

    • @janswhatsupdoc
      @janswhatsupdoc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially if it’s Jake for the hysterical reaction

    • @terryliliana
      @terryliliana ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Steve has become the new melee icies: relies on abusing literal glitches/bugs and elitists saying "just don't get hit" to survive the higher tiers.

    • @kyleclair41
      @kyleclair41 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear ya haha

    • @psychicchicken5263
      @psychicchicken5263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He got sent back to Minecraft

  • @terryliliana
    @terryliliana ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The S in S tier stands for Skill Issue.

    • @PLASBEZ
      @PLASBEZ ปีที่แล้ว

      The F in F tier stands for fuck tiers, professionals have standards

    • @superfreddybrosespanol6781
      @superfreddybrosespanol6781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh! 😂👏

  • @Cameo-Man__
    @Cameo-Man__ ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Bro the way Isabelle just turned around and smiled was devious 2:53

  • @yb2386
    @yb2386 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:24 "this man PASSED trigonometry" lmfaoo

  • @Neeono
    @Neeono ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i love how the 2 dudes at 0:41 are both laughing about how cool that kill was

  • @superfreddybrosespanol6781
    @superfreddybrosespanol6781 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yo... Edge guarding with Ganondorf's Up Tilt is just so satisfying! 1:28

  • @eslamvszombies1713
    @eslamvszombies1713 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This game is so awesome. Its crazy how often low tiers could kick some ass.

    • @TheRedStinger82
      @TheRedStinger82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is that a PvZ2 icon?? 👀👀

    • @eslamvszombies1713
      @eslamvszombies1713 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheRedStinger82 yep

    • @junkyyard2273
      @junkyyard2273 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      real talk, people say Ultimate is balanced, I say otherwise. It is still not balanced by general standards, but is by far the MOST balanced official Smash game, outside of 64.

  • @robertocastro3310
    @robertocastro3310 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:49 who put toad to commentate?

    • @jcl6100
      @jcl6100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🐒

  • @djtube9644
    @djtube9644 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I can confirm this is a yeet smash classic I have watched the video 273 times already

  • @lucasknox4871
    @lucasknox4871 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    1:21 and 1:23 for commentators actually sounding aroused by the spectacle they just witnessed

  • @mitrimind1027
    @mitrimind1027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:45 Dedede was like "Call an ambulance... but not for me"

  • @roboticoperatingbuddy5443
    @roboticoperatingbuddy5443 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:16 bro went for the ledge hog just to style on him

  • @cameronmiller5751
    @cameronmiller5751 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:22 - Yo the commentary for this clip was on point.

  • @claylilac
    @claylilac ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The synchronize at 2:32 though... *chefs kiss*

  • @jman2050
    @jman2050 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:40 Bruh this was the most toxic thing I’ve ever seen. I love it.

    • @abelhuvennebedu9026
      @abelhuvennebedu9026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually Know both of these players and billbol (the k rool) is amazing

  • @SonicX-qi2se
    @SonicX-qi2se ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Again, NEVER underestimate low tiers

  • @topazstarv
    @topazstarv ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Reminder to all players:
    The tier list is a lie. Some characters just need a different person to make them godly.

    • @EmperorPenguin1217
      @EmperorPenguin1217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Objectively wrong, there are bad characters and good characters.
      Tier lists are based on average matchups between two players of the same skill level

  • @Despots_Blitz86
    @Despots_Blitz86 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's always great seeing so many K. Rool clips in 1 video!
    ...Even if it _is_ always the low-tier ones... 😪

    • @PrettyKoolCrocodile
      @PrettyKoolCrocodile ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brings a tier to my eye ngl

    • @milkstew0288
      @milkstew0288 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PrettyKoolCrocodile *tear

    • @munkeybrainz9049
      @munkeybrainz9049 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@milkstew0288 how did you miss this one💀

    • @strider7198
      @strider7198 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@milkstew0288you slow???

  • @lucasknox4871
    @lucasknox4871 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:26
    “OOOOH! Olé! To the trash bin!”

  • @juangiron8809
    @juangiron8809 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:41 my dear friend who mains Mii Swordfighter. From Salta, Argentina to the world 🛐

    • @gino6872
      @gino6872 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the miis!

  • @RealRaizo
    @RealRaizo ปีที่แล้ว

    0:47 "et là- wahoohoo *WAHOOHOO WAH* 🦆🦆?!"
    "et l'attention AH *YAYAYAY AHHHHHH!!!"*

  • @Zalure
    @Zalure ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:56 That double 0 to Death by Jigglypuff was amazing and off of a shitty character like Byleth is the cherry on top.

  • @VentA_7
    @VentA_7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Smash ultimate has the best balance in terms of the difference between worst and best tiers out of smash game: especially considering the fact this game has 90 fighters to balance

  • @meepmonster750
    @meepmonster750 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s amazing how many people air dodge inwards towards Dr. Mario. Is the only way for them to have any continued advantage state

  • @dylanmahon2394
    @dylanmahon2394 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ain't nothing low tear about jiggly, character is pure terror

  • @liamhall6702
    @liamhall6702 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:07 the song that played during the dr Mario combo felt so natural

  • @marryrobert9590
    @marryrobert9590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:34 oh way the commentator said yeeow sounded like Fred Flintstones

  • @leondsmash3300
    @leondsmash3300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:59 When listening to the speaker, the English-speaking community must be wondering "what does CULIAO mean?" 😂😂😂

  • @maxthompson7107
    @maxthompson7107 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find this video to be poetic justice for the characters in Smash Ultimate. It’s not who you play as, it’s how you play as them. Next thing you know, a Pichu main might be able to take someone’s stock without inflicting self damage.

  • @Licer-Stepmania-Piu-21
    @Licer-Stepmania-Piu-21 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, it's me at 1:41!!! I can't believe it 😃🎮🕹️

    • @leondsmash3300
      @leondsmash3300 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. They are brothers. This match is a classic in every torney, in scene from Salta, Argentina👊👊👊

    • @blackout4655
      @blackout4655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good kill

  • @helper0066
    @helper0066 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aight. The moment at 7:34 got me. That's such a creative Gordo attack

  • @joeyjohnsonson4341
    @joeyjohnsonson4341 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can tell he's a mario main when he tries to use cape to stall recovery at 8:57 lmao

  • @FireIsFuzzy
    @FireIsFuzzy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:19 I think that announcer needs a minute 😂

  • @evonk6650
    @evonk6650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:05 nice timing

  • @torchilicho
    @torchilicho ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don’t let the tier list fool you. These “low tiers” still have crazy functions.

  • @thegamingpanda1094
    @thegamingpanda1094 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol i like how in the end with the dr mario and lucina the guy says "ooooh be careful with that tornado" and when he thinks he's gonna do it again he says again "watch out for the torna-" and then gets dunked

  • @ItsNoelleNow
    @ItsNoelleNow ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now we need a video with under represented characters, especially in the mid tier.

  • @YOSHBAG
    @YOSHBAG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone can be good with any character so long as they put the time and work into being good at the game. That’s the beauty of ultimate, you can pick your favorite, and if you’re good enough, you can win.

  • @yeeyeehaircut
    @yeeyeehaircut ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These are actual Low Tier Gods, unlike that streamer who probably plays high tier most of the time.

  • @bylethswife
    @bylethswife ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wish Zelda's moves werent so laggy and slow. if she was less laggy and her moves were faster, she'd probably be a much higher tier. still, shes probably one of my favourite characters to play as

  • @Kat-dp4rh
    @Kat-dp4rh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeet switching one pink fluffy ball for another, hoping we don't notice jigglypudf isn't low tier ;)

  • @brokkenmeme
    @brokkenmeme ปีที่แล้ว

    5:44
    Commentator: even match up
    Lucky:

  • @maxray_
    @maxray_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh it's me at 0:44 !
    Thanks a lot !!!

  • @randomlime69
    @randomlime69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Playing some of the bottom tiers is so fun: king k, isabelle, Plant gang, mii sword, doc, ganon

  • @penguinlord9530
    @penguinlord9530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watching kazuya min min and steve getting crapped on by trash characters was awesome, always love watching people outskill brain dead broken top tiers

  • @kingkoopa64
    @kingkoopa64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember. Is not what the characters have. It's what you can do with them that matters. Skill player with a low tier can win over an unskilled player with a high tier.

    • @EmperorPenguin1217
      @EmperorPenguin1217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even though objectively speaking there are good characters and bad characters.
      Theres a reason ganondorf, Donkey Kong, and Kirby players dont win majors.

    • @junkyyard2273
      @junkyyard2273 ปีที่แล้ว

      this only applies vs bad/meh top tier players
      high level top tier players will beat any low tier, and most mid tiers

  • @danthemanthemasterextraord621
    @danthemanthemasterextraord621 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sophist is in this montage

  • @Squidwolf
    @Squidwolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That doctor Mario made like four clean two frames in a row

  • @kylewood4488-b9r
    @kylewood4488-b9r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Low tiers are broken.... proceeds to show mostly K Rool clips.

  • @FaustGamingtuber
    @FaustGamingtuber ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28 was such a perfect sync

  • @AbsoluteMongoloid
    @AbsoluteMongoloid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Power of Low Tiers?
    More like the power of Godlike Reads.
    Still, it's satisfying to watch. The Gordo combos are always amazing to see.

  • @soily3565
    @soily3565 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    is it weird that i like playing low tiers more than high tiers

    • @0DHatesInfants
      @0DHatesInfants ปีที่แล้ว +12

      no

    • @dhans9662
      @dhans9662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im trash with Fox (apparently an S tier on the Official Tier list) but I'm somehow better with Link (B-) and Jigglypuff (C+)

    • @nathanm6372
      @nathanm6372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It means you’re like 15% of ultimate players who enjoy actually earning your victories

  • @PrettyKoolCrocodile
    @PrettyKoolCrocodile ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorites are 0:07, 0:54, 2:17 and 4:42! We ate good!
    7:49 was kinda cheesy I gotta admit

  • @CaseyAQuarles
    @CaseyAQuarles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That K rool played the Kaz matchup beautifully

  • @terryliliana
    @terryliliana ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thinking about it, plant actually has good tools to deal with steve's BS.

  • @AMC5274
    @AMC5274 ปีที่แล้ว

    King DeDeDe is an adorably fat and criminally underrated monster. I actually enjoy winning as him more than Ganon now.

  • @_martsuki_
    @_martsuki_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The low tier are low only for the mobility, they are incredibly powerfull

  • @bobert555555
    @bobert555555 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two little Mac clips and they’re both basic KO punch moments.
    Meanwhile Peanut out here making twitter clips every match and you didn’t pick any from him? Missed opportunity

  • @picklesunavailable1440
    @picklesunavailable1440 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:16 ngl, if you get 0 to deathed by a Jigglypuff twice without dealing damage once, you just gotta quit there because you're getting nuked.

  • @mrvoidberry
    @mrvoidberry ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Low tiers" then shows a couple jigglypuff clips lol

  • @arnoldj.samson5795
    @arnoldj.samson5795 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel its unjust to call a character bad or good. Its more of how simple or difficult it can be to learn a character. Like how almost all of the low tier characters shown in this were almost ingenious in how expertly they were played in the right hands.

  • @lights5651
    @lights5651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ganondorfs up tilt may be considered a “joke” move but it actuallly is a great way to bully new players

  • @francisnguyen6349
    @francisnguyen6349 ปีที่แล้ว

    What makes with the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate battle?

  • @citrus5797
    @citrus5797 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    But Jigglypuff literally isn't low tier, you showed us that at the beginning of the video.
    What is this agenda that you're trying to push?

    • @soily3565
      @soily3565 ปีที่แล้ว

      what jigglypuff? what agenda?? those were clearly kirby clips what're ur talking about

    • @citrus5797
      @citrus5797 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soily3565 there was at least 1 puff clip in there I swear

    • @soily3565
      @soily3565 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@citrus5797 nuh uh that was kirby man

  • @dyingoldman2312
    @dyingoldman2312 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:25 Trigonometry is fun but challenging.

  • @imatroll5611
    @imatroll5611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tier list do not matter, it's what you do with a character.

    • @EmperorPenguin1217
      @EmperorPenguin1217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it does, theres a reason ganondorfs and kirbies dont win majors

  • @AxlKnws98
    @AxlKnws98 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Piranha Plant, Isabelle and Ganondorf are pretty underrated

  • @BananaReidy
    @BananaReidy ปีที่แล้ว

    For kirbys case, it has potential but you got put in more work compared to other characterss

    • @Emanuele_Polisena
      @Emanuele_Polisena ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk why, but it's almost as if HAL decided to make all their characters trash.

  • @ceeemgee0381
    @ceeemgee0381 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy how two out of the three Kirby characters have been bottom 10 for nearly the past decade. Even though he can kick some ass, Kirby needs a rework or something other than kicking moves or else even Meta Knight will join them at all the bottom.

  • @electriclord3
    @electriclord3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Puff is mid tier tho I don’t think anyone thinks she’s low in 2023

  • @LinkMaster5555
    @LinkMaster5555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    K rool destroying Steve and Kazuya is super satisfying 😮

  • @rmissing3361
    @rmissing3361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Game's so balanced everyone can win fair and square

  • @beket__
    @beket__ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as a K rool main, I agree with this video

  • @AmazingMario16
    @AmazingMario16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do Not Mess With Us D Teirs, Nuff Said✊🏻

  • @0DHatesInfants
    @0DHatesInfants ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who hired toad to talk on the 3rd clip

  • @meissanegirardin4083
    @meissanegirardin4083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he confused kirby and jigglpuff bruh x))

  • @aaronnoesoriginal
    @aaronnoesoriginal ปีที่แล้ว

    1:19 "QUOI !!!!"
    The commentators: **moan**

  • @Owli
    @Owli ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Porque esta jigglypuff en este video, no es considerado low tier

  • @louisfontanarosa-yq2in
    @louisfontanarosa-yq2in ปีที่แล้ว +4

    GEEZ only TWO OTHER COMMENTS

  • @rmissing3361
    @rmissing3361 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those Mic eaters 😭💀

  • @leondsmash3300
    @leondsmash3300 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:41 Hello, from Salta, Argentina👊👊👊. Saludos, desde Salta, Argentina.

  • @maxpogfrog
    @maxpogfrog ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to see the Mii Swordfighter love, suprised they put him that low, with how much stuff that character has.

    • @maxthompson7107
      @maxthompson7107 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Mii Fighters in general have a lot to offer. Funny faces, meme costumes and most importantly, a versatile set of special moves. Just give the Mii a face you’ll enjoy, apply the moves you’re most comfortable playing with and give them an outfit/headgear setup you’ll enjoy and boom, you’ve got yourself some top tier Mii Fighter action.
      Sure, there are some unfair characters in there (Steve and Fox especially), but that’s just the other half of the fight. Just stay patient and recognize opportunities to wipe them out and you’ll soon make you way to the top!

  • @Jake76667
    @Jake76667 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love seeing low tier plays

  • @nigelsoffice2563
    @nigelsoffice2563 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfectly timed ending

  • @kipwhitler6804
    @kipwhitler6804 ปีที่แล้ว

    DISCIPLES OF DEDEDE STAND UP!

  • @holdupamoment
    @holdupamoment ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No Kirby clips :(

  • @shiralee3254
    @shiralee3254 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 1:47 I didn’t know who was low tier byleth or mii

  • @beansfebreeze
    @beansfebreeze ปีที่แล้ว

    Proof that anything is possible if your opponent holds in or has the worst spacing on earth

  • @H20overflow
    @H20overflow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As an isa main I will practice 2:30 for a year

  • @Calitoh36
    @Calitoh36 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfectly cut screams: 9:06

  • @icykuikinu300
    @icykuikinu300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sheik died at freaking 52 to p plant up smash jfc
    I love plant❤

  • @gioelepaleari9865
    @gioelepaleari9865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is there jigglypuff instead of kirby?

  • @Sassy_Appl3
    @Sassy_Appl3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hate that Krool is called a low tier. there is NO WAY this obese croc with a super armor equivalent on half his moves is a low tier when he also has very versatile projectiles, and more still.

    • @junkyyard2273
      @junkyyard2273 ปีที่แล้ว

      hes low tier because most of his shit is laggy as fuck. He has the potential but Sakurai, high on weed, decided that his moves be coated in Super Armor at the expense of his recovery speed

    • @Sassy_Appl3
      @Sassy_Appl3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@junkyyard2273 that's why he was blessed with being a heavy who has an amazing recovery especially for a heavy. Also, my point exactly, the belly armor easily throws him up a rank also his raw ass power.

    • @junkyyard2273
      @junkyyard2273 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sassy_Appl3
      He's also blessed with "big hitbox"
      No, his recovery is ass. It may have some amazing distance horizontal and vertical wise, but fuck it is slow. You can see in literally other battles of his that people start exploiting his lack of recovery speed. But that isn't his main issue. His issues are on his attacks and his speed. The addition of super armor is cool on paper but they had to literally balance it out by making his attacks laggy as fuck, in which, at this point, I would prefer giving him normal aerials without super armor. Don't care about the gimmick, at least it's one less pointless gimmick to be in a fighter.
      If you want two heavies that are a great example, have Incineroar and Bowser.

  • @Kingkrazyyt
    @Kingkrazyyt ปีที่แล้ว

    King dedede online is a different story