When it comes to clean amp pedal platforms, finding something with "Boutique" tone on a budget can leave most of us frustrated and left with few quality choices. However, there's one sleeper amp that released several years ago which has the tone and quality of a $2,000+ boutique amp at a fraction of the price. This amp has really flown under the radar, and can be had quite inexpensively, especially second hand, with many boutique upgrades like Celestion Speakers, Mercury Magnetics transformers, and two selectable clean channels. This is one of the greatest, and most affordable, clean amp pedal platforms ever made, yet nobody knows about it! Today we hope to change that and shed some light on this amazing amplifier! TABLE OF CONTENTS 00:00 - Intro clean tone example 00:24 - Introduction 01:39 - What's the BEST sleeper clean amp? 02:08 - Who is Michael Landau? 02:43 - What makes this amp so special? 04:38 - How much does this amp cost now? 04:55 - Signal path for the amp demo 05:50 - Clean tone example (amp only) 06:59 - Clean tone example (comp/delay/reverb) 09:08 - Clean tone example (comp/chorus/delay/reverb) 11:28 - Mid-Gain OD tone example (overdrive/delay/reverb) 13:52 - Hi-Gain OD tone example (overdrive/delay/reverb) 15:06 - Summary & analysis of what we heard 16:13 - Conclusion & wrap up
Hey Mason, I got mine a few years ago from an old man, that hadn't the time to maintain the amp. Also he told me, that it was to heavy for him. He just wanted to get rid of it ASAP, so he sold me the ML for 350€...! I was shocked and happy at the same time, that I got it so cheap. From then on I recorded 2 Albums with my band, played it on stage countless times. (yes there was a time before COVID, hopefully we will all recover very soon) I used it in many different music styles and projects. This was the best demo by far. Thanks again Mason and keep it up! Much love from Germany!
@@yur1bgw9i it was a custom set for the Eric Johnson Strat wound by Abigail Ybarra, the bridge is a Dimarizio with the dummy coil disconnected just like Eric Johnson.
I’m a working musician, been playing guitar 46 years, I own 2 of these Fender ML hot rod devilles. They’re excellent amps. I bought one, used it for a year and then concluded that it was such a great amp, that I decided to get a second one. I have a few boutique amps too but those have sat mostly unused cause these ML devilles sound so good. They provide what I consider the perfect amount of clean headroom for both small and large venues. And these amps do take pedals really REALLY well so you can get great overdrive/distorted tones too with pedals. The volume knobs have a smooth taper, meaning there’s no jump up in volume which has been a complaint sometimes with other amps. Anyway I highly recommend these amps.
Finally! Some love for this amp. It was my first real amp, bought it brand new and abused it through years of gigging. and it held up to the abuse till this day. Its such a great pedal platform, effects really shine through on it, many gig friendly features, and sounds gorgeous on keys too. Yet on gigs people would often come to me asking how my hot rod sounded so different and I’d have to explain it was Landau’s signature amp and nobody ever knew what it was. Glad its getting some well deserved recognition:)
Hi. First of all, I appreciate and respect what you are saying and am grateful for your ongoing videos. I have to chime in though. I have owned several hot rod deluxe amp as well as the Deville. They sound good and as you likely are aware of, they are the most popular and most used amps in history. However, the rub with me are two things. The weight of them is backbreaking and the volume is pretty much useless. It's loud, louder and loudest. There is not way to enjoy this amp unless you are playing in a large insulated space. Connecting pedals to it is great if you have a very large space such as a club to play it in. I am sure that many of you may disagree however, it would benefit Fender to get out of their own way with respect to keeping things vintage. I get that part but, this amp would sell 100 x more if they offered a built-in attenuator such as 5 or 10 watt option built-in switch in addition to 25 and more. I own to amps right now, the first is my Mesa Boogie TC (Triple Crown). It is by far not only the best sounding but more versatile amp that I have ever played. The combo does not have a built-in attenuator but the 100 Watt head does, however, I can mitigate the output by playing with the master along with a volume switch. Other than my Boss DD-200 delay pedal, there is not need for a boost, a distortion or any other pedal. The clean channel is prestine and even has multiple options to revise the tone. Channel 2 is my blues channel and with all the options that you want. Channel 3 offers as much gain as anything that you could want. No need to purchase a single or dual rectifier because it does it all. Unfortunately, in my current living space, I do not play my TC-50 as often as I like however, my Fender Bassbreaker 15 does so much. I can tone the volume down quite a bit because it has three gain options. I have no idea why this amp does not sell off the shelves 24 hours a day. I once added a Mesa Boogie Throttle box with the EQ and shockingly, it sounded very close to my Boogie. Well, I hope you can also appreciate my feedback and thank you for reading my comments.
Bassbreaker line don’t sell well cuz guitarrist buy hype, vintage, boutique and so on hype, I have 3 bassbreaker along with my vibtage and boutique and own amp builds and the BB15 is a thing of beauty, it even have a filter choke and those 3 stages and plywood cab with effect loops and multitap and so on features and is quiet, none manufacturers do such things for this price, if maybe fender put a different image and name to that line definitely will be selling like pancakes
Outstanding video Mason! Thank you for featuring this amazing amp. 100% consistent with my experience w/ the HRD ML. I exhaustively vetted clean pedal platform amps for a super important gig before purchasing mine in 2017. Like you, I've been a bit incredulous that this amp wasn't more popular. I've used mine on live gigs, TV, video shoots, recording, etc., using full featured boards, smaller builds and just to test out pedals - all with exceptional results. It always delivers, no matter what I put in front of it. I recently ran < Timmy< Archer < CE2< Dispatch Master for a quick session with absolutely glorious results. While it's not my main amp for recording or gigging right now, it's such a killer amp to have in the arsenal. Even the upgraded handle is extra badass. Loved the tones you were getting Mason! That JM tone was killing:) Cheers!
I've own a standard Hot Rod Deville for about 7 years, and I have played a friend's ML model live at a concert as well. The ML model sounds significantly better, my guess is mostly due to the better quality speaker. You are right, this is a killer amp, even if you don't factor in the price - but once you do, it's a no brainer. Glad to see someone is drawing attention to it. My only beef with these amps is that the 2x12 combo format is super heavy - which is really the only reason why I'd ever think of buying a different model. Also, the video presentation here is bonkers - the lighting, settings, colors and camera work are superb!
I have to "give you props" man, as the cool kids used to say. You really manage to be humble while still conveying useful information in an awesome way. Keep on keepin' on.
I really wish Fender would create a lower powered amp like this in the 20 watt range but with a full sized 112 cab. Something in between the Blues Jr and an HRD.
@@ronnieremark3355 40w is way too loud for home use (at least my home 😉) I can never run them above 2 and they don’t sound that great at that low volume in my experience.
It was good timing seeing this..I bought one sight unseen days after and super impressed with the circuit format/boutique tone, footprint and although the weight is definitely there (60lbs)..it's manageable because it's compact for a 2x12. I've gone down the boutique rabbit hole with my Carr, Dr Z and most recently my 65 amps Stone Pony combo and after much contemplation sold it. Thanks for showcasing some nice chord voicings/tones. The ML is all you'll ever need and indeed a sleeper and "keeper" amp.
I bought this amp last year and am not disappointed. This is the way they should make both the Deluxe and Deville since the overdrive channels in those amps are useless
More videos please about: 1. Other pedal platform tube amps 2. Best tube amps for home use 3. Affordable attenuators that does not miss with the tone (in case u wanna buy a 60 watt tube amp like the ML deville)
Hey Mason! After watching this video I started poking around out of curiosity and found one of these nearby for $800 in like new condition. I have to say, I agree with most all of the details you pointed out here. I've been through a few different amps trying to find something that agrees with pedals for at home enjoyment, and this thing definitely fits the bill. Thanks for your dedication to your craft. It helped me make a great purchase that I'm happy with.
I think the first minute after the clean tone demo has to be the world record for the most amount of "pedal platform" in one minute of coherent speach.
I own a 212IV deville, modified it. 1 celestion G12 V30 and 1 Celestion gold. TAD tubes, 12ay7 in V1 position. Play for 40 years and this amp is the best amp ever..
I remember looking at these a couple years ago but I never did try one. Peavey Classic 30 is another great one - a fairly popular amp, but lower wattage and certainly a great pedal platform. It is one of the few affordable amps that can achieve that Mayer-ish fuzzy overdrive sound that is so elusive. I added a Steel String Supreme and a few other pedals and it sounds really great clean or dirty, but even stock with no pedals, if you get a classic 30 dialed in, it sounds really full-bodied and good.
Mason, it makes my day when you put out a video or podcast. I've listened to your podcasts with Tony Lowe three times! I've been all digital for years - Helix and Quad Cortex. But I recently put together a hybrid analog/digital pedalboard into a Hot Rod Deluxe that I heavily modified. All these options are just fantastic in their own way and its really fun to try different things. I've learned a tremendous amount from your content and applied to both the analog and digital world. Thanks for what you do.
Cheers Mason - wholeheartedly agree - I picked mine up 3 years ago for as little as £400 - best amp purchase I made - lush clean tone with a great onboard reverb - and superb pedal platform - super stable high headroom.......
Definitely one of the best damn surround, and the gold standard for budget amps that are great with pedals, super clean, and big sounding. This really deserves more credit for how great it is.
This was a great explanation of the Strat, Pedals, featured tunes, and of course the Fender HRD Amp, which resulted in everything played sounding superb. Thank you.
This was nicely useful. I did not, indeed,know about this amp. Really good. BTW, for an "average player", that was nice playing and sounded great. Very good demo. Have a great day!
I came for the Deville and left to find the Mayer Sob Rock album. Didn’t even know it existed. Seems like a cool album. Nice demo by the way. Wins all around.
I'm not a huge fan of Landau but I bought this amp as soon as it came out. It's my go-to clean amp. TH-cam really doesn't do it justice. It's got the Fender sound you hear in your head, but it's more buttery. And loud. It's so good and so loud!
@@gordon9177 None so far. I've got a volume knob in the effects loop so I can use it at home. Is that an issue? It's so loud. Like, it's crazy loud and I feel bad for my grandparents listening to this stuff at concerts. It never breaks up. I use one channel for everything and the other channel is for everything +fuzz.
@@gordon9177 I looked it up on some forums. 've got a volume pot in the effects loop of the amp to bring everything down when I'm playng inside. It's a life saver.
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I have a 90s Blues Deville 4x10, it’s had a pre amp tube mod to swap out for an AY7, less gain, what an incredible amp this is. £450 used in the UK. I’ve recently also acquired a blues junior ltd ed with a jenson Alnico speaker, again, amazingly good for £400.
I scored a 1981 Fender Bassman Ten in a trade a couple years ago. It is 70 watts of painfully loud perfectly clean greatness. I even like the 4 ten inch speakers. I have run several pedals through it and that thing is a MONSTER. I ran it through my Mesa Boogie 2x12 vertical halfback and couldn't turn it past 6 inside my house. Look around, with some good pedals you can turn some boring amps into anything you want. And it is a killer bass amp.lol
Very good information . I have a Peavey Classic 30 . I fixed the tube rattle . and it is my go to amp. i also own a Hot Fudge. a clone of a Princeton hand built with a 10 inch speaker. i have 78 pedals. I really like your videos !!!
I also have a classic 30 - how did you fix the tube rattle? I have tolerated it so far, but it comes through in recordings a little and I would like to tackle that problem soon. Love the classic 30 other than the tube rattling issue.
@@shanecaver4881 I bought a tube rattling device.. Just a piece of aluminum tubing and rubber gaskets with two springs. Look it up . I paid like $20.00 bucks and it works fine 😊
I got one of these when it first came out and really wasn’t too impressed because it is so loud when turned up to get some amp overdrive. However, I bought a Tone King Ironman II and put it in the ML. Now it is easily in the top 3 of my favorite amps to play. Great amp!
I feel like those trying to get drive out of this are using it not as it was intended. I think the intent was to be clean for pedals, so getting drive out of it requires too much volume for most situations. I can see where an attenuator would be needed if you wanted to get some amp gain.
Sounds good, and great playing. Would be nice to hear a bit higher gain drive or distortion pedals played through this. These were pretty low amounts of drive showcased here, even a Blues Driver type circuit with the drive turned up or a plexi type pedal to hear how it handles riffs.
Dude, your link to my Hot Rod DeVille ML in Craig’s list sold my amp for me. Weird because I watched your video just the other day and said to myself, “Hmm, wonder if this video will peak interest in my amp.” Got 2 hits and just sold it to guy who also watched your video. Stole it from me for $600 beans. Sad to see it go but THANK YOU!
I have the older George Benson model and it's the best amp I've ever owned. Headroom galore with the Jensen 100w speaker. I love the overdrive channel too... no need for a o/d pedal!
I have had this amplifier in my Reverb wish list for two years and if somebody buys that I find another one immediately in Reverb and put it in my wish list it’s a beauty you are correct
I’ve just bought one of these. You don’t mention how noisy they are at lower volume levels. But you can correct that by fitting a Dr Watson Lion Tamer which acts as an extra master volume in the fx loop. Then you can run it a lot louder and it’s controllable too.
Great amp for sure. My favorite amp early on was the M-80 Stereo Chorus. It was solid-state but had a great clean sound and took pedals well. The built-in chorus was nice too - very unique sounding.
@@VertexEffectsInc I've had mine for about 25 years (1994 I believe). The potentiometers have a crackle. I've tried contact spray but it didn't help. They probably need to be replaced at this point.
I got my ML Deville when my old 1x12 Hot Rod Deluxe start waining a bit. It became really flabby in the low end. I love the ML for gigging..yes its a bit heavy but that's what a two wheeler is for. We cover a lot of different styles. I use many different pedals and the ML never lets me down. I bought mine new about 3 years ago. I would really like one or two more of them. A stereo setup or a wet dry wet rig would be righteous!!
They are very special amps, and a huge upgrade from the regular hot rod series no doubt! You can definitely find more, if you’re patient and wait around you can get some good deals, and frankly even sometimes I found new ones at Guitar Center or ones that were demo stock or B stock versions. It’s definitely fighting way above its weight class, and even at $1500 or $2000 it would seem like a pretty fair deal comparatively to its competing amplifiers in the boutique realm.
I had a '70 Super Reverb for 25 years , too old to lug it now. Used a Pro Junior for a few years, man they're loud and light. Building my own tube amp with single 12 atm.
I’ve recently swapped out the 12AX7 tube for a 12AT7 in the first position of my HotRod Deluxe IV’s preamp and it really restructured the sound in a pleasing way. It took some of the huge volume out of the Clean channel without affecting the headroom much. But now you can run the amp at around 4 instead of 2 without pealing the paint off the walls and thus the tone feels warmer, a little more broken in. It takes pedal really well still and just opens up gloriously with a bit of boost and overdrive. And most excitingly, the gain channel becomes usable. It’s got character now and when you add your OD pedals it goes interesting new places that don’t automatically chase you back to the clean channel. That one $16 fix has really expanded the amp for me and I’m stoked. Now, a new speaker?…. The Tone Journey never ends.
I had one of these about a year ago, complete sleeper amp. If I didn't have my super reverb available to me, this is what I would choose. This might even be LOUDER than my 65 SRRI. I could tolerate my 65 SRRI turned to 4 in a room, I couldn't tolerate the Hot Rod ML at that volume. I like the super mostly because I run it wide open, but the ML is most definitely a better pedal platform. It was designed for that as well.
@@VertexEffectsInc One of the most underrated amps out there. If you need a gig-ready pedal platform that will have absolutely no problems keeping up with a loud band and stay together as you turn the volume up(did I forget to mention how well the hot rod ML cuts through a mix?), that's a golden ticket. Granted, the Super is a great pedal platform in its own respect, Mick, Dan, and Josh Smith do adore the super for that purpose(as does my vertex ultraphonix HRM), but that's the Hot Rod ML's specialty with 60 watts of clean headroom and TWO clean channels ;)
I have a mid 90'S Peavey Studio Chorus 210 Stereo Amp it is outstanding pedal platform amp Unlimited Headroom..! It's a solid state 210 in speakers stereo chorus 2Ch amp pristine clean channel and a dirty channel I run my pedals through the front with my entire pedal board it is outstanding in tone and I love it. 😊
@@VertexEffectsInc Old USA Peavey had the best engineers bar none the circuits USA designed and manufactured using the most sophisticated CNC circuitry processing and manufacturing and due to consistent purchasing power offer very high quality electronics....look at a teal stripped era until 1990-1994 The clean channels could go to volume 10 with pristine clear and clean tones at extremely high volume....it enormous head room and engages pedals well outstanding Ty Sir
Didn’t miss this amp, bought it for live performance, way better then a hot Rod deluxe at stage volume. Never found a pedal that doesn’t sound good through this amp. I really love the two channels and boost for live performance. Nice video, sound examples sound really great.
I owned a Hot Rod Deluxe hated it, sold it! .. sounded cold and brittle. You're right, I've never heard of this amp? Would've been interesting to A-B it against my old H.R.D. Love your Strat, looks like Clapton's Brownie.
Great video! I have this as my main (and only haha) amp for several years now, and its just awesome. Takes well pretty much anything you plug into it! Only thing I don't like is the "more drive" feature but honestly I dont use it at all, it takes so well pedals that isnt neccesary. The reverb is huge too, past 3 gets really messy. (But again, you can use any reverb pedal and it will work flawlessly)
Wow. Gorgeous clean-tones. I could get lost-in-that, and play for hours. Which pickups are on that guitar? Modulation pedals sound so wonderful with those Pristine Landau-esque cleans. Really enjoyed your playing on this.
Thanks Michael! The pickups are custom wound for this guitar for the neck and middle, the bridge is some DiMarzio with the dummy coil disengaged, the Eric Johnson thing...this was an early prototype guitar that pre-dated standard EJ model. Originally it was going to be a replica of his guitar but ended up not going that direction until recently. I've had this guitar since the mid 2000's.
I’ve had one of these for the past two years. Just had the pots swapped out and revalved. It’s the perfect blank canvas for my Helix FX. It’s bloody loud though!!!!!.
I,m with you.Ive always used a clean platform with pedals.My humble opinion its always far more controllable than than an amp that relies on being turned up really loud.Amp sounds really really good and incredibly versatile.If you know how to play that will shine through,Good enough for me (and you i suspect!!)Nice video thanks.
Great review. I have used the hot rod deluxe for years but this is a nice upgrade. I’ll be looking around for one. You can hear the hot rod deluxe on my album Mycelium, by MAJIK BAND.
I had one for a couple of years and man the ML-amp is really amazing soundwise. I used to combine it with a tweed '57 Deluxe on stage and I can promise you that was a fantastic comination :) However the ML was too heavy to carry around for gigs and mostly I played/ play the blues. After selling the ML mainly because of the weight and sold the 57 Deluxe to get a Gibson ES-335, I went with a '68 Custom Vibrolux Reverb and that is also a great amp with trem and rev in both channels. Used the Vibrolux for a long time and still have it but a couple a months ago I tried a Tonemaster Deluxe...... well, so then I bought a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb Blonde and actually that has now become my main amp. But I have to admit that sometimes I miss the "big" sound from the ML. So maybe one day a ML will appear once again among my amp-section..... It's truly the best pedal platform I have had, no doubt about that!! :)
I own an ML and it, like much of my gear, is in a rotation. There is no denying that everytime I consider getting rid of a piece of gear to fund a new wish list item, I revisit selling my ML. The truth is that I plug it in and play through it, and I remember how great it sounds, and how versatile it is as a clean pedal platform with the 2 clean channels and Boost. As for it being too loud or too heavy....you're too old. That's what the volume knobs are for. I can play it whisper quiet because it's a clean amp, and I'm not looking to get any gain from it. It is capable of parting your hair on stage, but you dont have to. It will keep up in any gig environment.
I had one of these till 2018! What a great amp! Sold it as I got my Dirty Shirley! But I miss it, it sounds so good with overdrive and fuzz pedals! Due to the V-Type speakers as well a bit more Brit stylish. Room filling sound, it’s spreads over the whole rehearsal room! Regret I sold it! It is really boutique sound for about 1000 bucks! I do not know what a boutique priced amp would sound better! As well very touch sensitive! I bought mine for 750,- Euros lightly used! Every time somebody in the Pedalboard Facebook group ask for a recommendation for a pedal platform amp I recommend this beast! Good job Mason on your Vid.
@@freecarver011 The ML is great, another one, also worth doing a video on, is the 1980's Fender Concerts that Paul Rivera oversaw. Those are wonderful too, all handwired, effects loop, and great OD channels.
Thanks so much for introducing me to this amp. Great overview and sound demos! Of all my amps, I believe the Fender Mustang III v2 fits the bill as well as this Hot Rod DeVille does. I know sound is very subjective though.😄
Wanna talk about underrated amps what about Blackstar. Seems like no one knows about them on this side of the pond. The company was apparently started by ex Marshall employees, they sound amazing and are insanely affordable. Super usable, have so many features, can’t praise them enough for an average home player guy
Mason, thanks for your review. You know what you are talking about making you one of the few reliable products reviewers on TH-cam .After I heard just a few notes and watching this video and that it has 2 clean channels, but gets some nice overdrive breakup when cranked. I bought this amp from Sweetwater. One of the best decisions I ever made possibly the best amp (equal to my Roland Jazz Chorus 40, which is better than the JC 120 by a long shot, at least the one I had) and I would say better than my Fender Twin Reverb that I was forced to sell and Tonemaster Twin that I returned. superb While the Twin Reverb is rated at about 85 watts, the ML Hotrod Deville is rated @ 60 watts, which from what I read is about a 3Db or less volume which is negligible because the ML Deville sounds as good or better for about $700.00 less. My only complaint about this amp is that it is heavy although is only about 4 pounds lighter Than the Fender Twin Reverb.
Beautiful, beautiful clean sounds!!! I have a '66 Deluxe non-reverb that amplifys even the smallest nuances of my playing...it would probably pick up even my breath on the electric guitar's strings lol!! Thanks for sharing this incredible sounding amp...sounds much different than the regular hot rod Devilles' I have tried out!! I am a Marshall/Bassman devotee for distortion/overdrive (I have many early 70's modded metal panel MarshallJMPs' and a '66 Bassman head that sounds just like AC/DC's rhythm guitars...I put an incredible sounding Peerless/Altec Lansing output transformer in it) though other flavors of great tube overdrive exist in many other amps.
The DeVille IS indeed a good deal used as you can find 'em for 450-600 (but not the ML) and I have generally seen them sitting in rehearsal spaces (when they remain). They are big and loud. But at 55+ lbs it might not be what you lug to a gig. Cool to know about the upgrades on this model and the two clean sides though.
ML goes around the price of the Hot Rod III and IV series used, still a good deal apples to apples. New they are often on clearance. Saw a new one at GC in LA for $749.99 new.
The hot rod deville is my only amp besides my spark. I got an attenuator to be able to turn the volume up and have it not be so loud. It was way too loud without it. I only paid like $750 for a new scratch and dent.
I bought a new Hot Rod DLX amp back in early 2002, I believe one of the last USA built models. IMHO the amp has a beautiful clean tone & reverb but when it comes to distortion I prefer a Marshall amp. However I have gotten some interesting sounding distortion out of my HRD on OD/2 with gain around "6" while playing my Les Paul Melody maker equipped with the P-90 pick up.(I have Svetlana Winged C power amp tubes in the HRD)
I started with a Tonemaster Deluxe Blonde (with all updates) and just didn't like it for home use. It's probably a good choice for gigging though as the sound difference is probably not as noticeable. I sold it and bought an ML and love it. I now run the ML (attenuated) with an AC15 (Alnico Blue) and the combination is wonderful at low to medium volume. I'd probably need an AC30 if I really wanted to turn up the ML, as it has some serious volume that drowns out the AC15 when I turn it up.
If you want to go even more sleeper and cheaper, the Fender Stage series, from I think the late 90s, early 2000s. It’s solid state but they sound excellent and or some of the easiest amps to get along with pedals
Thank You I'm a strat guy and hate my sound and know it's my choice Roland Cube I just can get the tone O want I am very dissatisfied with it plus I got me strat with some Seymore Duncan probably 50 or 60 something 8 screwed up I didn't play it long enough at the pawn shop really..
When it comes to clean amp pedal platforms, finding something with "Boutique" tone on a budget can leave most of us frustrated and left with few quality choices. However, there's one sleeper amp that released several years ago which has the tone and quality of a $2,000+ boutique amp at a fraction of the price. This amp has really flown under the radar, and can be had quite inexpensively, especially second hand, with many boutique upgrades like Celestion Speakers, Mercury Magnetics transformers, and two selectable clean channels. This is one of the greatest, and most affordable, clean amp pedal platforms ever made, yet nobody knows about it! Today we hope to change that and shed some light on this amazing amplifier!
TABLE OF CONTENTS
00:00 - Intro clean tone example
00:24 - Introduction
01:39 - What's the BEST sleeper clean amp?
02:08 - Who is Michael Landau?
02:43 - What makes this amp so special?
04:38 - How much does this amp cost now?
04:55 - Signal path for the amp demo
05:50 - Clean tone example (amp only)
06:59 - Clean tone example (comp/delay/reverb)
09:08 - Clean tone example (comp/chorus/delay/reverb)
11:28 - Mid-Gain OD tone example (overdrive/delay/reverb)
13:52 - Hi-Gain OD tone example (overdrive/delay/reverb)
15:06 - Summary & analysis of what we heard
16:13 - Conclusion & wrap up
Hey Mason,
I got mine a few years ago from an old man, that hadn't the time to maintain the amp. Also he told me, that it was to heavy for him. He just wanted to get rid of it ASAP, so he sold me the ML for 350€...! I was shocked and happy at the same time, that I got it so cheap. From then on I recorded 2 Albums with my band, played it on stage countless times. (yes there was a time before COVID, hopefully we will all recover very soon)
I used it in many different music styles and projects. This was the best demo by far. Thanks again Mason and keep it up! Much love from Germany!
@@jimvolcano Yes, amazing amp! So glad you found it!
Mason, what kind of pickups are in that CS Strat of yours??? Sound so heavenly! Jees!
@@yur1bgw9i it was a custom set for the Eric Johnson Strat wound by Abigail Ybarra, the bridge is a Dimarizio with the dummy coil disconnected just like Eric Johnson.
@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you Mason! Hope you are well & Happy New Year!!!
I’m a working musician, been playing guitar 46 years, I own 2 of these Fender ML hot rod devilles. They’re excellent amps. I bought one, used it for a year and then concluded that it was such a great amp, that I decided to get a second one. I have a few boutique amps too but those have sat mostly unused cause these ML devilles sound so good. They provide what I consider the perfect amount of clean headroom for both small and large venues. And these amps do take pedals really REALLY well so you can get great overdrive/distorted tones too with pedals. The volume knobs have a smooth taper, meaning there’s no jump up in volume which has been a complaint sometimes with other amps. Anyway I highly recommend these amps.
Heck yea! Great amps!
Finally! Some love for this amp. It was my first real amp, bought it brand new and abused it through years of gigging. and it held up to the abuse till this day. Its such a great pedal platform, effects really shine through on it, many gig friendly features, and sounds gorgeous on keys too. Yet on gigs people would often come to me asking how my hot rod sounded so different and I’d have to explain it was Landau’s signature amp and nobody ever knew what it was. Glad its getting some well deserved recognition:)
Yes indeed!
Hi. First of all, I appreciate and respect what you are saying and am grateful for your ongoing videos. I have to chime in though. I have owned several hot rod deluxe amp as well as the Deville. They sound good and as you likely are aware of, they are the most popular and most used amps in history. However, the rub with me are two things. The weight of them is backbreaking and the volume is pretty much useless. It's loud, louder and loudest. There is not way to enjoy this amp unless you are playing in a large insulated space. Connecting pedals to it is great if you have a very large space such as a club to play it in. I am sure that many of you may disagree however, it would benefit Fender to get out of their own way with respect to keeping things vintage. I get that part but, this amp would sell 100 x more if they offered a built-in attenuator such as 5 or 10 watt option built-in switch in addition to 25 and more.
I own to amps right now, the first is my Mesa Boogie TC (Triple Crown). It is by far not only the best sounding but more versatile amp that I have ever played. The combo does not have a built-in attenuator but the 100 Watt head does, however, I can mitigate the output by playing with the master along with a volume switch. Other than my Boss DD-200 delay pedal, there is not need for a boost, a distortion or any other pedal. The clean channel is prestine and even has multiple options to revise the tone. Channel 2 is my blues channel and with all the options that you want. Channel 3 offers as much gain as anything that you could want. No need to purchase a single or dual rectifier because it does it all.
Unfortunately, in my current living space, I do not play my TC-50 as often as I like however, my Fender Bassbreaker 15 does so much. I can tone the volume down quite a bit because it has three gain options. I have no idea why this amp does not sell off the shelves 24 hours a day. I once added a Mesa Boogie Throttle box with the EQ and shockingly, it sounded very close to my Boogie. Well, I hope you can also appreciate my feedback and thank you for reading my comments.
Bassbreaker line don’t sell well cuz guitarrist buy hype, vintage, boutique and so on hype, I have 3 bassbreaker along with my vibtage and boutique and own amp builds and the BB15 is a thing of beauty, it even have a filter choke and those 3 stages and plywood cab with effect loops and multitap and so on features and is quiet, none manufacturers do such things for this price, if maybe fender put a different image and name to that line definitely will be selling like pancakes
Outstanding video Mason! Thank you for featuring this amazing amp. 100% consistent with my experience w/ the HRD ML. I exhaustively vetted clean pedal platform amps for a super important gig before purchasing mine in 2017. Like you, I've been a bit incredulous that this amp wasn't more popular. I've used mine on live gigs, TV, video shoots, recording, etc., using full featured boards, smaller builds and just to test out pedals - all with exceptional results. It always delivers, no matter what I put in front of it. I recently ran < Timmy< Archer < CE2< Dispatch Master for a quick session with absolutely glorious results. While it's not my main amp for recording or gigging right now, it's such a killer amp to have in the arsenal. Even the upgraded handle is extra badass. Loved the tones you were getting Mason! That JM tone was killing:) Cheers!
Thanks for the great comment Brooks!
I've own a standard Hot Rod Deville for about 7 years, and I have played a friend's ML model live at a concert as well. The ML model sounds significantly better, my guess is mostly due to the better quality speaker. You are right, this is a killer amp, even if you don't factor in the price - but once you do, it's a no brainer. Glad to see someone is drawing attention to it. My only beef with these amps is that the 2x12 combo format is super heavy - which is really the only reason why I'd ever think of buying a different model.
Also, the video presentation here is bonkers - the lighting, settings, colors and camera work are superb!
I think the speakers have a lot to do with it, also the transformer will help most definitely
I have to "give you props" man, as the cool kids used to say. You really manage to be humble while still conveying useful information in an awesome way. Keep on keepin' on.
I appreciate that!
I really wish Fender would create a lower powered amp like this in the 20 watt range but with a full sized 112 cab. Something in between the Blues Jr and an HRD.
The drri is 22 watts and 12in.
Have you tried the 40w tube Fender Tweed Blues Deluxe
112 w 6L6 tubes. I got one on a whim and never been more satisfied w a purchase!
@@ronnieremark3355 40w is way too loud for home use (at least my home 😉) I can never run them above 2 and they don’t sound that great at that low volume in my experience.
@@dingusfuzzklonnkt2755 Yes and they are great but I would also like something that’s in between in the price of an HRD and Blues Jr.
Fender Super Sonic 22
It was good timing seeing this..I bought one sight unseen days after and super impressed with the circuit format/boutique tone, footprint and although the weight is definitely there (60lbs)..it's manageable because it's compact for a 2x12. I've gone down the boutique rabbit hole with my Carr, Dr Z and most recently my 65 amps Stone Pony combo and after much contemplation sold it. Thanks for showcasing some nice chord voicings/tones. The ML is all you'll ever need and indeed a sleeper and "keeper" amp.
I don’t even need to watch this video to say this: it really is!
It sounds so good! It is the sleeper hit of Fender’s amp line.
It's funny that they've been discontinued for years but you can still find them new at guitar shops. Such a great amp!
@@VertexEffectsInc indeed! and some for like $800!!! i've always wanted one...might have to make it happen VERY soon
@@SeanPierceJohnson I saw one at GC in LA for $700.
@@VertexEffectsInc bruh...
I bought this amp last year and am not disappointed. This is the way they should make both the Deluxe and Deville since the overdrive channels in those amps are useless
Best clean amp on a budget, ever. I find them for$600-$800 all day long. SOOO good!
More videos please about:
1. Other pedal platform tube amps
2. Best tube amps for home use
3. Affordable attenuators that does not miss with the tone (in case u wanna buy a 60 watt tube amp like the ML deville)
1) we have this video out on our channel already
2) cool, good suggestion
3) cool, good suggestion
Hey Mason! After watching this video I started poking around out of curiosity and found one of these nearby for $800 in like new condition. I have to say, I agree with most all of the details you pointed out here. I've been through a few different amps trying to find something that agrees with pedals for at home enjoyment, and this thing definitely fits the bill. Thanks for your dedication to your craft. It helped me make a great purchase that I'm happy with.
I may have to buy one! Another great pedal platform amp is the Peavey Classic series. Definitely an underrated amp that is so affordable.
Yes, agreed on Peavey for sure!
I think the first minute after the clean tone demo has to be the world record for the most amount of "pedal platform" in one minute of coherent speach.
haha
I own a 212IV deville, modified it. 1 celestion G12 V30 and 1 Celestion gold. TAD tubes, 12ay7 in V1 position. Play for 40 years and this amp is the best amp ever..
I remember looking at these a couple years ago but I never did try one. Peavey Classic 30 is another great one - a fairly popular amp, but lower wattage and certainly a great pedal platform. It is one of the few affordable amps that can achieve that Mayer-ish fuzzy overdrive sound that is so elusive. I added a Steel String Supreme and a few other pedals and it sounds really great clean or dirty, but even stock with no pedals, if you get a classic 30 dialed in, it sounds really full-bodied and good.
Peavey is a solid choice as well. Classic 30 is great. SSS is great with these for sure:)
Mason, it makes my day when you put out a video or podcast. I've listened to your podcasts with Tony Lowe three times! I've been all digital for years - Helix and Quad Cortex. But I recently put together a hybrid analog/digital pedalboard into a Hot Rod Deluxe that I heavily modified. All these options are just fantastic in their own way and its really fun to try different things. I've learned a tremendous amount from your content and applied to both the analog and digital world. Thanks for what you do.
Thanks for watching Jim, and that so great to hear! Really appreciate your support!
Cheers Mason - wholeheartedly agree - I picked mine up 3 years ago for as little as £400 - best amp purchase I made - lush clean tone with a great onboard reverb - and superb pedal platform - super stable high headroom.......
Definitely one of the best damn surround, and the gold standard for budget amps that are great with pedals, super clean, and big sounding. This really deserves more credit for how great it is.
This was a great explanation of the Strat, Pedals, featured tunes, and of course the Fender HRD Amp, which resulted in everything played sounding superb. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was nicely useful. I did not, indeed,know about this amp. Really good. BTW, for an "average player", that was nice playing and sounded great. Very good demo. Have a great day!
Thanks for watching! Hope you found it useful as a possible future amp consideration!
I came for the Deville and left to find the Mayer Sob Rock album. Didn’t even know it existed. Seems like a cool album. Nice demo by the way.
Wins all around.
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I love that you gave some credence to the Digitech Polara. A much overlooked and underappreciated pedal.
We love the Digitech pedals over here! Thanks for watching Anthony!
I'm not a huge fan of Landau but I bought this amp as soon as it came out. It's my go-to clean amp. TH-cam really doesn't do it justice. It's got the Fender sound you hear in your head, but it's more buttery. And loud. It's so good and so loud!
Thanks for sharing!
any issues"s, with the amp?
@@gordon9177 None so far. I've got a volume knob in the effects loop so I can use it at home. Is that an issue? It's so loud. Like, it's crazy loud and I feel bad for my grandparents listening to this stuff at concerts. It never breaks up. I use one channel for everything and the other channel is for everything +fuzz.
@@TybudX you lost me on the Volume knob in the Effects loop statement.
@@gordon9177 I looked it up on some forums. 've got a volume pot in the effects loop of the amp to bring everything down when I'm playng inside. It's a life saver.
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Awesome Mason, I've had three Devilles since about 97, 98, they are strong and dependable and totally take the pedal punch!! Cheers brother!!
Definitely check out the Michael Landau ones, they’re even better than any of the standard hot rod series
I have a 90s Blues Deville 4x10, it’s had a pre amp tube mod to swap out for an AY7, less gain, what an incredible amp this is. £450 used in the UK. I’ve recently also acquired a blues junior ltd ed with a jenson Alnico speaker, again, amazingly good for £400.
Nice! Speaker changes really help on the Hot Rod amps generally.
I scored a 1981 Fender Bassman Ten in a trade a couple years ago. It is 70 watts of painfully loud perfectly clean greatness. I even like the 4 ten inch speakers. I have run several pedals through it and that thing is a MONSTER. I ran it through my Mesa Boogie 2x12 vertical halfback and couldn't turn it past 6 inside my house. Look around, with some good pedals you can turn some boring amps into anything you want. And it is a killer bass amp.lol
Good score!!
Loved those Bassman with the 4 x 10s . To bad they stopped making them
Very good information . I have a Peavey Classic 30 . I fixed the tube rattle . and it is my go to amp. i also own a Hot Fudge. a clone of a Princeton hand built with a 10 inch speaker. i have 78 pedals. I really like your videos !!!
Nice!!! Thanks for watching!
I also have a classic 30 - how did you fix the tube rattle? I have tolerated it so far, but it comes through in recordings a little and I would like to tackle that problem soon. Love the classic 30 other than the tube rattling issue.
@@shanecaver4881 I bought a tube rattling device.. Just a piece of aluminum tubing and rubber gaskets with two springs. Look it up . I paid like $20.00 bucks and it works fine 😊
Great work Mason for the time & effort and all the work you put in, ...demoin' pedals/boards/amps etc!
Thanks for watching!
I got one of these when it first came out and really wasn’t too impressed because it is so loud when turned up to get some amp overdrive. However, I bought a Tone King Ironman II and put it in the ML. Now it is easily in the top 3 of my favorite amps to play. Great amp!
I feel like those trying to get drive out of this are using it not as it was intended. I think the intent was to be clean for pedals, so getting drive out of it requires too much volume for most situations. I can see where an attenuator would be needed if you wanted to get some amp gain.
Noticed this in an earlier pedal demo of yours 😉 I picked one up recently. Can't get much better for the price!
They're great :)
Sounds good, and great playing. Would be nice to hear a bit higher gain drive or distortion pedals played through this. These were pretty low amounts of drive showcased here, even a Blues Driver type circuit with the drive turned up or a plexi type pedal to hear how it handles riffs.
With humbuckers it would drive the pedals more.
Worth every dime! The best pedal plataform IMO.
For those that know...the best sleeper amp out there!
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Dude, your link to my Hot Rod DeVille ML in Craig’s list sold my amp for me.
Weird because I watched your video just the other day and said to myself, “Hmm, wonder if this video will peak interest in my amp.”
Got 2 hits and just sold it to guy who also watched your video.
Stole it from me for $600 beans.
Sad to see it go but THANK YOU!
Great news!!!
The Fender Custom Vibrolux Reverb never got much praise, but i love mine
Great amps!
I had the chance to play and buy one of these 6 or so years ago. It was a great sounding amp. I passed on it. Mistakes can haunt you.
Sweetest Fender sound I've ever heard. When I have the funds, I'll have the same setup. Thanks.
I have the older George Benson model and it's the best amp I've ever owned. Headroom galore with the Jensen 100w speaker. I love the overdrive channel too... no need for a o/d pedal!
They're nice and upgraded as well like the ML amp.
I've had my Hot Rod Deville 2x12 for nearly a decade, the tones are amazing!!!!
Yes!!!
@@VertexEffectsInc BTW Your finger picking on that clean chorus was en pointe!!!
@@joshhayes1750 I forgot my pick ;)
I have had this amplifier in my Reverb wish list for two years and if somebody buys that I find another one immediately in Reverb and put it in my wish list it’s a beauty you are correct
I’ve just bought one of these. You don’t mention how noisy they are at lower volume levels. But you can correct that by fitting a Dr Watson Lion Tamer which acts as an extra master volume in the fx loop. Then you can run it a lot louder and it’s controllable too.
Maybe there's something wrong with yours? Mine isn't noisy at all.
I'll 2nd that reply..mine's is not noisy
A great video Mason! I have one and agree wholeheartedly heartedly with your endorsement.
Thank you kindly!
Hello from Camden London, Sounds great! Loving your high video quality content! Keep up the great work!
Thank you! Will do!
Great demo Mason! And thanks for the tip about the amp, unfortunately cannot seem to locate any of it here in Japan...!
Oh no! Thanks for watching Em!
Great amp for sure. My favorite amp early on was the M-80 Stereo Chorus. It was solid-state but had a great clean sound and took pedals well. The built-in chorus was nice too - very unique sounding.
Nice! Yea...those are cool. Not sure how reliable they are, but cool.
@@VertexEffectsInc I've had mine for about 25 years (1994 I believe). The potentiometers have a crackle. I've tried contact spray but it didn't help. They probably need to be replaced at this point.
I got my ML Deville when my old 1x12 Hot Rod Deluxe start waining a bit. It became really flabby in the low end. I love the ML for gigging..yes its a bit heavy but that's what a two wheeler is for. We cover a lot of different styles. I use many different pedals and the ML never lets me down. I bought mine new about 3 years ago. I would really like one or two more of them. A stereo setup or a wet dry wet rig would be righteous!!
They are very special amps, and a huge upgrade from the regular hot rod series no doubt! You can definitely find more, if you’re patient and wait around you can get some good deals, and frankly even sometimes I found new ones at Guitar Center or ones that were demo stock or B stock versions. It’s definitely fighting way above its weight class, and even at $1500 or $2000 it would seem like a pretty fair deal comparatively to its competing amplifiers in the boutique realm.
The fender digital super reverb is also killin! And light for us old guys.
Digital Super Reverb....oh boy!
I had a '70 Super Reverb for 25 years , too old to lug it now.
Used a Pro Junior for a few years, man they're loud and light.
Building my own tube amp with single 12 atm.
Beautiful playing Mason Beautiful Tone 👍
I saw ML with Robben Ford they Are both awesome Guitarist ML was amazing when I saw him.
Thanks a lot!
I’ve recently swapped out the 12AX7 tube for a 12AT7 in the first position of my HotRod Deluxe IV’s preamp and it really restructured the sound in a pleasing way. It took some of the huge volume out of the Clean channel without affecting the headroom much. But now you can run the amp at around 4 instead of 2 without pealing the paint off the walls and thus the tone feels warmer, a little more broken in. It takes pedal really well still and just opens up gloriously with a bit of boost and overdrive. And most excitingly, the gain channel becomes usable. It’s got character now and when you add your OD pedals it goes interesting new places that don’t automatically chase you back to the clean channel. That one $16 fix has really expanded the amp for me and I’m stoked. Now, a new speaker?…. The Tone Journey never ends.
Nice! Speakers are a thing for sure...I'd try some British speakers in there like the Celestions. I know ML used G1265's in his original Hot Rod amps.
Would have been a good idea to mention the actual amp in either heading or the description .
Then it’s not clickbait.
I had one of these about a year ago, complete sleeper amp. If I didn't have my super reverb available to me, this is what I would choose. This might even be LOUDER than my 65 SRRI. I could tolerate my 65 SRRI turned to 4 in a room, I couldn't tolerate the Hot Rod ML at that volume. I like the super mostly because I run it wide open, but the ML is most definitely a better pedal platform. It was designed for that as well.
Great amp!
@@VertexEffectsInc One of the most underrated amps out there. If you need a gig-ready pedal platform that will have absolutely no problems keeping up with a loud band and stay together as you turn the volume up(did I forget to mention how well the hot rod ML cuts through a mix?), that's a golden ticket. Granted, the Super is a great pedal platform in its own respect, Mick, Dan, and Josh Smith do adore the super for that purpose(as does my vertex ultraphonix HRM), but that's the Hot Rod ML's specialty with 60 watts of clean headroom and TWO clean channels ;)
@@dannyllerenatv8635 heck yea
I have a mid 90'S Peavey Studio Chorus 210 Stereo Amp it is outstanding pedal platform amp Unlimited Headroom..! It's a solid state 210 in speakers stereo chorus 2Ch amp pristine clean channel and a dirty channel I run my pedals through the front with my entire pedal board it is outstanding in tone and I love it. 😊
Peavy for the win!
@@VertexEffectsInc Old USA Peavey had the best engineers bar none the circuits USA designed and manufactured using the most sophisticated CNC circuitry processing and manufacturing and due to consistent purchasing power offer very high quality electronics....look at a teal stripped era until 1990-1994 The clean channels could go to volume 10 with pristine clear and clean tones at extremely high volume....it enormous head room and engages pedals well outstanding
Ty Sir
Incredible amp. All the headroom of a Twin too.I’m never gonna sell this. Great thoughtful informative video.
Didn’t miss this amp, bought it for live performance, way better then a hot Rod deluxe at stage volume. Never found a pedal that doesn’t sound good through this amp. I really love the two channels and boost for live performance. Nice video, sound examples sound really great.
Thanks for sharing! We love it!
This is a great video. There are not enough of this kind of thing here in our community. Beautiful sounding amps. It gets louder than damn it too.
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I love the amp with reverb and delay on it. Superb. This is the sound. Stop looking at vintage.. This is a much better deal.
Glad you like it!
I did not understand " pedal friendly " " pedal platform " until I bought my ML Hot Rod Deville !!
Yes, yes, yes!!!
I owned a Hot Rod Deluxe hated it, sold it! .. sounded cold and brittle. You're right, I've never heard of this amp? Would've been interesting to A-B it against my old H.R.D. Love your Strat, looks like Clapton's Brownie.
I think you'll appreciate this amp much more :)
Great video! I have this as my main (and only haha) amp for several years now, and its just awesome. Takes well pretty much anything you plug into it! Only thing I don't like is the "more drive" feature but honestly I dont use it at all, it takes so well pedals that isnt neccesary. The reverb is huge too, past 3 gets really messy. (But again, you can use any reverb pedal and it will work flawlessly)
Very cool!
Wow. Gorgeous clean-tones. I could get lost-in-that, and play for hours. Which pickups are on that guitar? Modulation pedals sound so wonderful with those Pristine Landau-esque cleans. Really enjoyed your playing on this.
Thanks Michael! The pickups are custom wound for this guitar for the neck and middle, the bridge is some DiMarzio with the dummy coil disengaged, the Eric Johnson thing...this was an early prototype guitar that pre-dated standard EJ model. Originally it was going to be a replica of his guitar but ended up not going that direction until recently. I've had this guitar since the mid 2000's.
I’ve had one of these for the past two years. Just had the pots swapped out and revalved. It’s the perfect blank canvas for my Helix FX. It’s bloody loud though!!!!!.
Yes, great amp!
The Fender Super Sonic 22 is also an amazing pedal platform. Fairly low watts that can be enjoyed at bedroom levels
Yes indeed!
@@VertexEffectsInc How does the SS 22w compare? I have one, I’m happy with it but wondering if this would be a big upgrade in tone?
@@mckots ML is bigger, louder, more clean.
@@mckots th-cam.com/video/OuO7bUAmfsI/w-d-xo.html
Listen to this guy. Demos the SRV vertex ..Won’t get much better than the supersonic 22
@@VertexEffectsInc th-cam.com/video/OuO7bUAmfsI/w-d-xo.html
Yup ! Buddy blues sold me your pedal
Great idea! I would use an a/b switch to swap inputs on my Deluxe or Super Reverb.
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I,m with you.Ive always used a clean platform with pedals.My humble opinion its always far more controllable than than an amp that relies on being turned up really loud.Amp sounds really really good and incredibly versatile.If you know how to play that will shine through,Good enough for me (and you i suspect!!)Nice video thanks.
Thanks for watching!!!
I remember getting super excited when this amp came out. I never had the chance to play through one.
Definitely treat yourself to playing one if you can!
Great review. I have used the hot rod deluxe for years but this is a nice upgrade. I’ll be looking around for one. You can hear the hot rod deluxe on my album Mycelium, by MAJIK BAND.
Nice! I'll have to check it out!
I had one for a couple of years and man the ML-amp is really amazing soundwise. I used to combine it with a tweed '57 Deluxe on stage and I can promise you that was a fantastic comination :) However the ML was too heavy to carry around for gigs and mostly I played/ play the blues. After selling the ML mainly because of the weight and sold the 57 Deluxe to get a Gibson ES-335, I went with a '68 Custom Vibrolux Reverb and that is also a great amp with trem and rev in both channels. Used the Vibrolux for a long time and still have it but a couple a months ago I tried a Tonemaster Deluxe...... well, so then I bought a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb Blonde and actually that has now become my main amp. But I have to admit that sometimes I miss the "big" sound from the ML. So maybe one day a ML will appear once again among my amp-section..... It's truly the best pedal platform I have had, no doubt about that!! :)
It's great...but yea, any 2x12 is going to be heavy!
I own an ML and it, like much of my gear, is in a rotation. There is no denying that everytime I consider getting rid of a piece of gear to fund a new wish list item, I revisit selling my ML. The truth is that I plug it in and play through it, and I remember how great it sounds, and how versatile it is as a clean pedal platform with the 2 clean channels and Boost. As for it being too loud or too heavy....you're too old. That's what the volume knobs are for. I can play it whisper quiet because it's a clean amp, and I'm not looking to get any gain from it. It is capable of parting your hair on stage, but you dont have to. It will keep up in any gig environment.
it's only 3 pounds less than my BF Twin so yeah heavy but not as bad as an AC 30 or Boogie MK
"That's what the volume knobs are for. I can play it whisper quiet because it's a clean amp" ..,🙆♂...
I had one of these till 2018! What a great amp! Sold it as I got my Dirty Shirley! But I miss it, it sounds so good with overdrive and fuzz pedals! Due to the V-Type speakers as well a bit more Brit stylish. Room filling sound, it’s
spreads over the whole rehearsal room! Regret I sold it! It is really boutique sound for about 1000 bucks! I do not know what a boutique priced amp would sound better! As well very touch sensitive! I bought mine for 750,- Euros lightly used! Every time somebody in the Pedalboard Facebook group ask for a recommendation for a pedal platform amp I recommend this beast! Good job Mason on your Vid.
Thanks for watching! Hopefully you’ll cross paths with another one in the future!
@@VertexEffectsInc struggling between the ML Deville and the 1962 Bluesbreaker Reissue! I love the feel of a tube rectifier!
@@freecarver011 The ML is great, another one, also worth doing a video on, is the 1980's Fender Concerts that Paul Rivera oversaw. Those are wonderful too, all handwired, effects loop, and great OD channels.
Love this video, killer tone man.. MM really knows his stuff.. beautiful chords
Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for introducing me to this amp. Great overview and sound demos! Of all my amps, I believe the Fender Mustang III v2 fits the bill as well as this Hot Rod DeVille does. I know sound is very subjective though.😄
Rock on! Glad you enjoyed the video!!
Superb Video Mason.. please keep demonstrating the Mike Landau parts and tones as they are fascinating to see :-)
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Thanks, for the video...I am always looking for ways to get a better signal chain with my effects and keep the rig simple. Awesomeness
🙏🙏🙏 thanks for watching
Wanna talk about underrated amps what about Blackstar. Seems like no one knows about them on this side of the pond. The company was apparently started by ex Marshall employees, they sound amazing and are insanely affordable. Super usable, have so many features, can’t praise them enough for an average home player guy
Sounds like another video if it were to be one...The Most Underrated Amp Fender Ever Made - Blackstar, might be a hard sell ;)
Mason, thanks for your review. You know what you are talking about making you one of the few reliable products reviewers on TH-cam .After I heard just a few notes and watching this video and that it has 2 clean channels, but gets some nice overdrive breakup when cranked. I bought this amp from Sweetwater.
One of the best decisions I ever made possibly the best amp (equal to my Roland Jazz Chorus 40, which is better than the JC 120 by a long shot, at least the one I had) and I would say better than my Fender Twin Reverb that I was forced to sell and Tonemaster Twin that I returned.
superb
While the Twin Reverb is rated at about 85 watts, the ML Hotrod Deville is rated @ 60 watts, which from what I read is about a 3Db or less volume which is negligible because the ML Deville sounds as good or better for about $700.00 less.
My only complaint about this amp is that it is heavy although is only about 4 pounds lighter Than the Fender Twin Reverb.
Nordland ODR pedals are amazing! So excited to see this on the board 🤘
They're very cool...I've been liking it a lot with the Steel String as a two stage set up.
Lots of good information- thank you. It’s distracting, however, when someone constantly watches their fretting hand while playing
I guess I'll just have to get better at guitar???
Beautiful, beautiful clean sounds!!! I have a '66 Deluxe non-reverb that amplifys even the smallest nuances of my playing...it would probably pick up even my breath on the electric guitar's strings lol!! Thanks for sharing this incredible sounding amp...sounds much different than the regular hot rod Devilles' I have tried out!! I am a Marshall/Bassman devotee for distortion/overdrive (I have many early 70's modded metal panel MarshallJMPs' and a '66 Bassman head that sounds just like AC/DC's rhythm guitars...I put an incredible sounding Peerless/Altec Lansing output transformer in it) though other flavors of great tube overdrive exist in many other amps.
Its really nice to see and hear you play. Keep it up and I really love what you do.
🙏🙏🙏 thanks for watching!
You killed me when you said you were an elemental guitar player. I will practice tonight I will practice tonight I will practice tonight I will
Thanks for watching!
Neat amp. I wish Fender would address some of the design flaws that plague the Hot Rod lineup… leaky caps, overheating components, etc…
Don’t we all
The DeVille IS indeed a good deal used as you can find 'em for 450-600 (but not the ML) and I have generally seen them sitting in rehearsal spaces (when they remain). They are big and loud. But at 55+ lbs it might not be what you lug to a gig. Cool to know about the upgrades on this model and the two clean sides though.
ML goes around the price of the Hot Rod III and IV series used, still a good deal apples to apples. New they are often on clearance. Saw a new one at GC in LA for $749.99 new.
I liked my deville, but loved my Twin...pedal platform deluxe...
Which Twin?
The hot rod deville is my only amp besides my spark. I got an attenuator to be able to turn the volume up and have it not be so loud. It was way too loud without it. I only paid like $750 for a new scratch and dent.
Boom, you got a great rig! Thanks for watching!
Nice man. The deville is #1
Your playing is clean and subtle like your pedals.
Thanks for watching!
Why the hot rod Seville ML didn’t take off is because Michael Landau was never known as a frontman , he was a studio musician
That could be, but Fender didn't do a lot of promo also I don't think.
Your playing is very inspirational 👍 beautiful tones
Thank you kindly!
Nice review and sweet playing, Mr. Jack Black !
I bought a new Hot Rod DLX amp back in early 2002, I believe one of the last USA built models. IMHO the amp has a beautiful clean tone & reverb but when it comes to distortion I prefer a Marshall amp. However I have gotten some interesting sounding distortion out of my HRD on OD/2 with gain around "6" while playing my Les Paul Melody maker equipped with the P-90 pick up.(I have Svetlana Winged C power amp tubes in the HRD)
Love your introduction and wonderful tones😊👍
🙏🙏🙏 Thanks for watching!
I discovered the Hotrod with Texas band "Slint". Loved the texture of this amp.
Nice! They're great, especially the ML!
Hot Rod Devilles I feel have a lot of power, even in a 1×12 or 2×12 configuration.
This is is special...a cut above the rest :)
I have owned both. In my opinion for some reason the one 12 sounds way better in my ears?
@@stevewhite3753 The ML version only comes in a 212 configuration...we're not talking about stock Hot Rod amps here.
I started with a Tonemaster Deluxe Blonde (with all updates) and just didn't like it for home use. It's probably a good choice for gigging though as the sound difference is probably not as noticeable. I sold it and bought an ML and love it. I now run the ML (attenuated) with an AC15 (Alnico Blue) and the combination is wonderful at low to medium volume. I'd probably need an AC30 if I really wanted to turn up the ML, as it has some serious volume that drowns out the AC15 when I turn it up.
I mained a DeVille for almost a decade, and sold it when I moved cross-country. I DESPERATELY miss it.
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Good Demo, I'm thinking of getting one of these myself..
If you want to go even more sleeper and cheaper, the Fender Stage series, from I think the late 90s, early 2000s. It’s solid state but they sound excellent and or some of the easiest amps to get along with pedals
Thank You I'm a strat guy and hate my sound and know it's my choice Roland Cube I just can get the tone O want I am very dissatisfied with it plus I got me strat with some Seymore Duncan probably 50 or 60 something 8 screwed up I didn't play it long enough at the pawn shop really..
Great tone. Great amp. Greatest Michael Landau! Thanks Mason
You bet!
I had the 4x10 Blues deville and that thing was really good too ....
Yes, they can be good, but this is a bit more upgraded and reliable :)