I Brought In 3 Local Pastors to Ask Them TOUGH Questions...
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- These new issues are causing pastors to abandon ministry in droves… Join Todd Friel and several local pastors as they discuss the unique issues of our day causing many pastors to quit.
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Hey pastors, keep pursuing the King and take those of us doing the same along for the ride… We appreciate ALL that you do for our Savior, to Him be the glory ☝🏽
I had to do a double take cuz I recognized one of those pastors! Pastor Shane! Preaching the true word of God every Sunday, blessed to have found his church!
I really enjoyed this! "Normal" pastors instead of the famous ones is nice and refreshing. I am a pastor, I am not famous, so I can relate to these guys better somehow. thank you.
Thank you brothers for your honesty, transparency and commitment to truth! May our lives be grounded in God’s Word!
I loved this! Please bring these men on more often for more conversation!
1:22 Pastor is spot on. There are so many “experts” “renting” information without doing the work and without seeking discernment from God and fellow believers.
When you have a predominantly unconverted congregation who at one point repeated a "Lord I'm a sinner..." "prayer" and your church uses carnal means to lure people in (coffee & donuts, emotionally manipulative music, trendy decor, "warm up jokes" to get the crowd in the "mood" prior to getting to the Word of God, etc, etc) that church will keep growing... But for all the wrong reasons.
Amen. Nailed it. Thank you!
@@PrisonPreacher Amen and God's blessings. I'm not trying to be a pessimist and honestly my statement is based off sober observation of almost every church I have been to in my area (Portland, OR). I know there are plenty of good ones out there but the struggle to find a solid, Christ-centered, TRUTH-based church is real. God bless.
What is most good for us - the Word of God - is also what is good for the whole world. The world needs us to be the light that we are and we need His Word to keep shining as lights. It may not look that impactful in the surface but that is where we put faith in God working both in each of us and in the affairs of the world to accomplish His will. His way, not ours. 🙏🏼
This was EXCELLENT! I could watch panels of experienced conservative pastors talk through these issues all day. You could do 1hr episodes on a plethora of topics and each one could EASILY be an 1hr worth of material
1) IVF
2) COVID Ruies
3) Vaccines
4) Nationalism
5) Infiltration of Wokeness in the Body
6) Elections/Politcs in Church (Do all Christians have a responsibility to vote… even if both candidates have serious flaws)
7) CRT
8) Charismatic Excess
9) Legitimacy of Online Only Church attendance (Should we always Be a part of In Person Church)
10) Christian TH-cam space… pros/cons/issues/things we need to fix
10 1hr episodes! Let’s go!
Vast majority of people feel better when there are more people in churches and new faces are constantly coming in. It makes them feel as if something good is happening (especially when they see more of the younger generation coming in). However, they don't realize its the carnal means that lure people in and when you use carnal means to attract people you're going to attract carnal people, and you'll have to continue using greater carnal means to keep them in church. If you're wise enough you'll know that they're not there for God and His Word; they're there for the coffee and donuts, emotionally manipulative music, jokes and fun, a trendy crowd and basically anything that makes THEM feel good... Many people reason along the lines of "as long as the churches are full and people are decent and they try to come every Sunday is all that matters. After all that is the goal isn't it? For churches to be full and people to be decent and at least try to come to church?" Take away all the carnal means and simply preach the whole counsel of God and channel all attention on Jesus Christ and see how many people stick around then. Those will be the truly born-again, faithful converts who desire nothing more than to hear and obey our God and Lord Jesus Christ.
I left Christian ministry after working as a pastor for 7 years. I'm so glad! I don't miss it at all; in fact, it's a relief to no longer be doing it. I have my life and sanity back.
Hypocracy, immage management, sweeping the sin under the rug, just to name a few😢
The Pastor's are needing to put 20+ years of experience to work.
There is a difference between putting the things learned in seminary to work and finding out that you've just been parroting what was taught while having no answer to that YT knowledge.
Not all knowledge is instantly wrong because it comes from online media.
There are some great men of God with youtube channels glorifying our Lord. To name a few;
Chuck Missler
Voddie Baucham
John MacArthur
I expect to hear tge Word of God preached at church , and i need to hear it too!
Shalom from Washington state🇮🇱✝️
Shalom, thank you Lord for the CROSS!
Did any of you gentlemen force your staff to get the vaccine?
perfect question just what i was thinking🤔🧐
@@ps0195, Shane Koehler (far left in video), definitely no.
Hey that’s our pastor ❤❤❤❤
We need a biblical church in Snellville, Ga (Reformed, elders, pre-millennial)
Now is the time to make straight the way in your hearts for Jesus and love Him first over everyone and everything. You want your spouse and children to love Him more than you and you should love Him more than them and yourself. Then you can love without expectations or disapointments from others because all of you will know that everything comes from Jesus and He is the only one to depend on. If you look, you will see that your footprints led you to your own despair and His footprints carried you out of it.Forgive everyone including yourself and know that you are Never alone. Keep it simple. One Enemy-satan One War-for our souls One Way- Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Peace.
Agree with the “ethical” issues. Recently left a church as they moved to approve the ordination of prior and parolee CSO’s.
Ephesians 4:11-13 gives us the reason all pastors, teachers, prophets, evangelists and apostles are given! To equip the saints for the work of service! Or making disciples! Putting feet into ministry not only butts in pews! Answering the prayer to the Lord of the harvest! Matthew 9:37-38. The vast majority of Pastors are overworked yet, under-employed!!
Pastor Koehler is my pastor. The one on the far left. He is true to exposition of the word and within God’s providence the text speaks to a current day issue. He addresses the issue without talking about the current people or events. I respect him so much for his courage and trust in God.
Tough
Our head pastor goes through the Bible books verse by verse. It is uplifting or chastising as the text indicates. However, when the junior pastor has to step in for anything, it is awful! Instead of in context verses, we get a "subject sermon" with out of context verses and so many of them with no chance to double check the actual context that your brain shuts down in self preservation. But, worse is that when he "preaches" he turns the congregation into an audience.
I have no doubt of his love for G-d and he is a very nice man but his training is confused.
I do not know what to do with these issues.
I think the subjects that are being debated in politics in the presidential race are so important that the church should be more involved this is why there's 90% of the church DOES NOT VOTE
Every Christian needs to vote.
It's derelection of duty not to.
@@joshuakarr-BibleMan The Bible disagrees with you, and God's judgement on the matter carries more weight than yours'. "Christian" voters prove what Paul says in 2 Cor. 4:4 to be true where he says that Satan has hidden Christ's gospel from this world. The reason why "Christian" voters feel compelled to be involved in politics is because they don't believe the gospel Christ preached about the coming of a better world.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779
You lie.
God put us in a country and at a time our vote determines the laws and the lawmakers.
It is sin to silently watch as destruction comes to the lost, or to cowardly keep silent at the oppression of the innocent.
We are the watchmen on the wall.
We also have a voice against evil.
We are to be good stewards to our Lord and in this life. I disagree with you, God did not hesitate to use common people to get involved with politics...look how He intervened with King Nebuchadnezzar's time in the wilderness and Nebuchadnezzar's son...the writing on the wall. Was it not political intervention when God disrupted the government and way of life for the Egyptians when he inserted Joseph into Egypt's government? Was it not political/governmental intervention to send Moses to put the squeeze on Pharoah to release the jewish slaves?
Where on earth did you get the idea that 90% of the church doesn’t vote?
1:20
Sure, but we can comment during videos.
a Real True Pastor is Dr Chuck Baldwin Liberty Fellowship MT
The New Testament does not establish a specific "pastoral ministry" as seen today. While terms like "elders" and "overseers" are mentioned, the modern office of a singular "Pastor" does not appear in the early church's structure. Jesus explicitly warns against the use of titles among His followers in **Matthew 23:8-10**, saying, “Do not be called Rabbi… and do not call anyone on earth your father… nor be called teachers," which can also be applied to titles like "Pastor." His command encourages equality among the brethren, where leadership serves humbly rather than exalting a person through formal titles.
Furthermore, in **Ephesians 4:11**, the term "pastors" (translated as "shepherds") appears as one of many roles but does not indicate a dominant, official position like the modern pastorate. Leadership in the early church was shared among apostles, prophets, evangelists, and teachers. There was no emphasis on one person holding ultimate authority under the title of "Pastor," aligning with Jesus' teaching against hierarchical titles among believers.
The New Testament contains no reference to a pulpit as it is understood in modern Christian practice. The early church met in homes (Romans 16:5, Acts 2:46), and there is no mention of a specific elevated platform or designated speaker's stand. Teaching, preaching, and sharing the Word were done in communal gatherings where all could participate, as seen in **1 Corinthians 14:26**, where Paul encourages everyone to contribute.
The concept of a pulpit, often tied to a hierarchical structure or centralized teaching authority, was foreign to the organic and interactive nature of early Christian worship. Leadership in the New Testament was more collaborative, with multiple elders and teachers leading, rather than a singular figure speaking from a raised position. This simplicity in worship aligns with the spirit of Jesus' teachings against titles and exalting one person over the rest (Matthew 23:8-12). The absence of a pulpit reflects the egalitarian and participatory nature of early Christian gatherings, rather than the structured, clerical format that developed in later centuries.
This theology is categorically false because Paul specifically mentions "pastors" as being an office in God's government structure in his letters. Christ prohibiting His followers from calling men "Rabbi" is not Him prohibiting someone from being called a pastor. The Bible very clearly refers to God's ministers in His Church as being pastors, both literally and in principle.
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First, the claim that Paul's mention of pastors as an office in the Church validates a formal hierarchical "government structure" misunderstands the nature of biblical leadership and the role of pastors. Paul's letters do mention pastors (one and only mention of pastors in the NT) (Ephesians 4:11), but this doesn't imply the rigid, authoritative structure churches have adopted today. The context shows that Paul spoke of different functions-apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers-for the purpose of equipping the saints for ministry and edifying the body of Christ, not for creating a power hierarchy.
The term "pastor" (from the Greek word *poimēn*, meaning shepherd) refers to a caring, nurturing role. Shepherds guide, protect, and serve, but they do not exercise domineering authority over the flock. Jesus Himself defined true leadership as service, saying, "Whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant" (Matthew 20:26). The modern notion of pastors as religious authorities ruling over congregations is more akin to the hierarchical structures Jesus condemned, especially when He said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you" (Matthew 20:25-26).
Christ's prohibition of titles like "Rabbi" (Matthew 23:8) is absolutely a direct rebuke of the very notion of exalting one person over others in spiritual authority. Rabbi means teacher, and the prohibition of such a title was a clear instruction to avoid elevating any man as a spiritual superior. Jesus emphasized equality among His followers: "You are all brothers." The essence of Christ's teaching here is against the establishment of human authority figures within the Church. Whether the term is "Rabbi" or "Pastor," the principle is the same: no human should be placed in a spiritually authoritative role over others-for Christ is the only head of the Church (Ephesians 5:23).
The claim that "pastor" is sanctioned in both "literal and principle" falls flat. The Bible does refer to spiritual care roles, but always in the spirit of humility and mutual submission (Ephesians 5:21). Nowhere does it sanction the modern-day church office of a pastor who holds unilateral authority over a congregation. Such a notion goes against the spirit of New Testament teachings, which emphasize Christ alone as our leader and direct mediator.
Therefore, to assert that Paul's mention of pastors justifies today's authoritarian church structures is categorically false. It contradicts both the example of Christ and the biblical concept of leadership as service, not rulership. Pastoral roles are for guiding and serving, but never for assuming control or lording over others. The title of "Pastor" has been misused to justify systems of control and hierarchy that are alien to the teachings of Christ and the early Church.
Additionally, no one in the New Testament ever held the formal title of "Pastor." While the word poimēn (shepherd) is mentioned in reference to a role in caring for others spiritually, not a single individual in the New Testament is ever addressed as "Pastor" in a title or position of authority. The apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers mentioned in Ephesians 4:11 refer to different functions within the body of Christ, but these were never rigid titles that conferred spiritual authority over others.
In fact, leaders in the early Church were referred to as elders (presbyteroi) or overseers (episkopoi), but these terms described a function of guiding through wisdom and service, not an official title meant to elevate one person over others. The apostolic example of leadership was based on a model of mutual submission, shared responsibility, and a commitment to servant leadership, not the imposition of hierarchical titles that separated clergy from laity.
By creating the formal title of "Pastor" in modern times, churches have strayed from the New Testament example and adopted practices that closely resemble the very systems of authority Jesus opposed. Christ alone is our leader, and all believers are on equal footing before Him, as brothers and sisters under one Shepherd (John 10:16). The absence of a "Pastor" title in the New Testament is a powerful indicator that the modern institutionalized office of pastor, with its inherent power dynamics, has no biblical basis.
I believe that it's critical for Christianity that you, Justin Peters, and John MacArthur address the Steve Lawson situation in its entirety.
When I was a child I would always want to know the ins and the outs of a ducks bum, 😂 but now as an adult I'm not that interested to have all the gory details of this type of a sinful fall from anyone, it's incredibly shameful, In my opinion ❤
Todd has addressed this issue many times on Wretched Radio. Go have a listen.
Hey, all of this waspre-destined😮
I think you are vastly overestimating the importance of Steven Lawson. He had a large following in a small segment of Christianity. Anyone whose faith was adversely impacted by this should examine their own hearts because they had clearly made an idol out of pastor Lawson.
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I would appreciate it if y’all used more layperson speak so we don’t have to stop and look words up. Breaks my train of thought sometimes. Maybe it’s just me 🤔 prolly just a couple of words on this video
Do you only associate with or talk to people that wear a full blown suit?
What kind of irrelevant question is that 🥸
You should watch him talk to kids on college campuses.
@@Marie-iw9hl is there a more important question I should be asking like why does Todd have such a large studio?
The men wearing suits is reflective of their theology. They hold a high view of God’s holiness and think that should be reflected in one’s dress when acting as a pastor (or attending church). There is also an element of social cohesion, if you’re normally a khakis and collared shirt guy but your host is going to be in a suit you wear a suit. That used to be considered decorum.
@@TGuard00014 it’s got nothing to do with theology. Aren’t you supposed to be in the presence of God at all times? Including when you’re taking a dump, in the shower etc.
HYPOCRACY? Your talking out of both sides of your mouth!!! Stop with the term, "Christian NATIONALISTS"!!!! It is a political/Worldly culture reference labeling Christians as fruitcakes, even terrorists and used in many print campaigns as a derogatory term to define Christians as evil. "CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST is NOT scriptural!
As a believer, I tuned in to this podcast all bright eyed and bushy tailed, until......I was offended as a Christian to be labeled with a new, unscriptural, trendy, modern day, negative cultural term...."CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST".
Then, out of the other side of your mouth, you say you don't allow politics in your church....Seems that you ARE following the worldly culture.
This is SUCH bullocks! Lets talk about everything but the one man who has had a 5 year adulterous affair all while preaching the conference curcuit, working at a prominent university, and running a parachurch organization that has had millions of dollars run through its hands. All while calling out every other camp for their sin, but you guys are just going to keep it hush hush and say that we should allow the church to handle it. Well, S.L. was elevated to a global pastor so his congregation is all the pulpits he preached in, all the people who bought his books, every conference he spoke at. He needs to answer to them. And the fact that man sees NO NEED to publically repent and confess shows you what kind of character he has. And the fact that Wretched radio wont cover this and be forthright shows the character of the men behind this podcast and all involved in this cover up. I have lost all respect for you. And it doesnt matter how many serious faced pictures you put in your thumb nails Todd or how many pastors you summon to talk about "heavy hitting" topics. You are NO better than all the people you blast on here. You are just like the liberal media. Skewed and dishonest. Circling the wagons around your golden boy to cover your bottom line. Why dont you keep that same energy that you rundown other people's theological missteps and lies for this particular individual? Telling. Very, very telling.
I'm pretty sure he addressed it in some form. I saw that 2 weeks ago, he made a long video talking about fallen pastors. You should probably check out that video. If he doesn't mention Lawson by name, that doesn't matter because he is at least vaguely talking about the issue at hand.
Dear brother, I'm not sure if you are a ministry man or a faithful church member, but my pleading with you would be to have real grace and pity in your approach. If you see fit to address Steve Lawsons' sin, do you find yourself praying for him, his wife, his kids. And also all that will be affected by his sin. I appreciate the zeal, but make for sure that your foundation of stirring things up is LOVE. MATH 18 KIND. too easy to take our failing heros (just mere men) and just rain down judgements. All the while forgetting what Christ had to suffer to redeem you and keep you sanctified now...
God bless you brother
Bro, you ok?
Who is S.L.?
@@EBRoyJr Steven Lawson
"Todd Friel: the guy who can sell you salvation with a smile, but you’ll still end up paying extra for the ‘extended warranty’ of his opinions."
Why don’t you refocus your dart and openly say that you don’t Love Jesus, you do not love the truth of God, the Word of God!
May God whom is Abounding in Love Touch your soul and cause you to know wisdom because you Fear Him!
Forgiveness is Now! Just Ask from your Heart, The Lamb will do the Rest!
@@jesusisgod2742"I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me-except maybe parallel park on the first try."
@@Celestial-Mischief "A proud and haughty man- “Scoffer” is his name; He acts with arrogant pride." Proverbs 21:24
@@PrisonPreacher "True humility is not thinking less of yourself; it is thinking of yourself less."
@@Celestial-Mischief Oh, the irony!!