Vintage Cox Control Line Plane's History and flights by NightFlyyer. A few are Testors.
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- All destroyed in fire in 2016! UPDATE. See 65 year old Cox Pt-19 fly today in 2020. • 63 Year old Cox PT-19 ...
Can you watch this video all the way? If not, don't try flying dizzying U-Control. What you see is exactly what I saw! My friend Larry at the Roller Skating Rink asked me if I wanted some old Cox airplanes. Of course I said yes. This video shows what is like to stand in the middle of the circle on only 25 foot strings and spin. Cox engines are now available at coxengines.ca/ Here is a recent video of 3 of my latest u control planes. • 3 Control Line Plane's...
And here is an exciting video where We got GOATED flying fast UKIE. • COX .049 planes & Ukie...
Using 2 cameras, you will see the perspective and hear the engine noise. Ending with a Modern twist, I hope you enjoy this piece of Model Airplane Nostalgia.
Cox Models, a former division of Estes Industries of Penrose, Colorado, was a multimillion-dollar hobby company, was one of the hobby industry's oldest companies, and is noted for its production of miniature model internal-combustion engines.
This company, originally named "The L. M. Cox Manufacturing Co, Inc.," was founded in 1945 by the machinist Roy Cox in Placentia, California. Cox grew up in and around his father's bicycle shop, and developed an interest in mechanical devices.
Cox's first products were wooden pop guns, produced in his home garage. Cox chose wood for his basic material, since metal was scarce during WW II.
When metals became readily available in the United States in 1947, Cox turned his attention to new products, beginning with a diecast metal car. This product was developed into a "whip car", a tethered vehicle which could be manually swung in a circle at high speed. Nitro- and gasoline-powered tether cars with .60 cubic inch miniature engines capable of speeds of 100 mph (160 km/h) were quickly becoming popular.
Cox's first contribution to that growing hobby was a cast aluminum midget racer powered by a .15 engine by Cameron Brothers.
Cox Manufacturing enjoyed a large postwar growth due in part to its production of miniature model internal combustion engines and tethered model aircraft, finally moving to a new factory in Santa Ana, California, in 1963. The factory started at 80,000 square feet (7432 square meters).
Three expansions in a few years' time saw expansion to 225,000 square feet (20,903 square meters) and introduction of a line of slot cars, model rockets, HO scale model trains, and a full-sized, one-horsepower gasoline-powered chain saw.
Roy Cox retired in 1969, and he sold the company to the hobby conglomerate "Leisure Dynamics". Kites, toy walkie-talkies, and yo-yos were added to the Cox company products. A major step toward participation in the growing radio controled hobby business happened in 1976 with the acquisition of the radio manufacturer "Airtronics".
By 1983, Leisure Dynamics was facing bankruptcy. Their engineer William Selzer, the designer of the "Babe Bee" .049 aircraft engine, joined with a local businessman to purchase the Cox company.
The new company, Aeromil Engineering Company, changed the name of the company from Cox Company to Cox Hobbies, incorporated, in 1984.
Growth of the company continued, but its factory space became fragmented since the operations were spread out over a number of leased buildings. This prompted a move to a consolidated facility in Corona, California, in 1990.
In January 1996, a leading model toy rocket manufacturer, Estes Industries, purchased Cox Hobbies, Incorporated, and relocated operations from Southern California to the Estes facility in Penrose, Colorado.
This signaled a major change in marketing direction for the new company, now known as Cox Models. A great many new products were aimed towards a mass market and they were sold in large chain stores and discount stores.
Since then, Cox has returned to its hobby roots and is once again offering its products through hobby stores. The product line came to include a line of radio-controlled model aircraft.
Some of the former Cox model train line is now sold by the Wm. K. Walthers company.
A few of them in this video is Testors, but the history is mostly about Cox.
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The Cox RC Electric Warbirds are being sold by Gravity Hobby for only $17.99
I never had one minute of problems with the Cox 0-49 motor. We used it in control lines, free flights, tether cars, even small R/C's. I am 65 and this wonderful little motor is one of the icons of my life!
Yep. Some of us just "got it" This video is 13 years old, and here is a later one on the PT 19 I did recently, you may enjoy, at 73. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
I have many videos, you may enjoy of my Cox engines, including the Flying Shop rag, Part II with a TD..010 th-cam.com/video/Q7MwFVHCRpY/w-d-xo.html Thanks.
On the last day of my life, I want to take to the sky with a Cox PT-19.
@@philiphatfield5666 Right on. Come and fly mine, as seen in the last video link I sent you. Im 76, so time is getting closer to that flight for me too.
I'm 62 and know exactly what your saying I used to build line control airplanes from scratch gosh it was fun. I took a cox .049 and put a makeshift 16oz tank on one and fired er up the thing ran for a couple of hours and was perfectly OK after.
Boy, that really took me back! Great times and great history. The great cox .049...one of man's greatest inventions. I really loved the sound and smell of it all. These were the best Christmas gifts you could get in the 60s and 70s.
And the 80s if ur parents didn't sux
My brother and I each got one for Christmas. My Dad broke both the same day. I remember mine being a P-40. I have two now. One is a back up.
Have you seen the fuel scents for the nitro fuel RC vehicles? I didn't know they existed til a few years back...lol
Now i have some happy tears ...
Remember the OK CUB engines. Never did get one started. Cox .049 was so easy to start.
I grew up dizzy flying these..till i mastered rc. No way in hell would i ever grab a handle again. Took me 17 years self taught to master the radio. I now own 32 rc planes. Got my own flying strip. Nice video..brought back alot of dizzy memories.
Great. We all started the same it seems. Happy flying.
with me i never got dizzy from control line flying. whats nice about control line is you're more in direct control with the plane and can actually feel the plane
I miss those days it sure was fun. Listening to the engine brings back good memories of the 60s & 70s I just loved anything Cox.
Right on. Great to hear that. Make sure to watch this one too. Thanks. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
Everyone I know who flew these as a kid, grew up to be decent, hard working people. Great memories.
You know what ? you are so correct i am an engineer repairing photo copiers, like all my friends who i used to fly with we are all engineers owning our own homes all worked hard all our lives so true what to say :)
baldfatgit1 I'm a printing pressman. You have to be mechanically inclined to do this job. I've been doing it for 34 years.
Heaven forbid anyone actually has to build or do anything for themselves!My late grandmother bought me the first model airplane magazine I ever owned- October, 1961 Model Airplane News. I still have a copy, not that particular one though!
Bob A Booey That's amazing. After reading your comment, I did a quick mental role call, and 6 out of 7 of my friends that flew these, were and are successful. 2 became airline pilots, one worked at JPL and all were successful and respected in their given fields. Unfortunately we lost #7 to cancer about 12 years ago. I wonder if it had anything to do with the fact that in order to get these planes flying, it took lots of work and constant tweaking? Obviously there is nothing scientific going on here, but that's how it worked out in my case. Great video.
This is amazing, I live in Colombia which may not be familiar to you , yet all my friends that flew all these U control model airplanes back in the 50s and 60s were great decent and successful people in their professions. Much to my sorrow the have been passing away and I am standing as almost a sole survivor. Great video that brought be a load of memories of those great and now gone guys !!
My Dad used to fly control line planes way back in the day. He would be amazed at the current RC planes. Thanks for the video.
That is great to hear. Thanks so kindly. Maybe check out one of my newer UKIE videos. Thanks. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
when you said sizzle and then went to start the engine with that old glo plug clipper a smell i have long forgotten but used to love hit my senses, nitro. Thanks for all you have done for this hobby .
-form John in Texas
Thanks very kindly and I appreciate your comments. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control flight from this week.
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I had the PT-19 and a testors BD-5. Later on, I built several Combat Kittens and a Little Satan which I used in control line dogfights with the other kids where I grew up. We kept bumper stickers in our flight boxes to repair smashed planes. These little planes inspired me grow up and fly Lear jets for a living.
Right on! Good on you. Here is my recent PT19 flight you may enjoy. Thanks and happy flying. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
brings back some great memories, I was so young and has so much life potential then. Thanks for posting this !!!!
What memories growing up with that sound!
Thank you.
Such memories. As a cub scout in the early 60's I sold greeting cards door to door and used my credits to buy the Cox line control planes. I think I had the whole line. In the mid 70's flew full stunt line control then moved to RC. Good clean fun. Maybe not so clean as the spent oil had to be cleaned off. Thanks for sharing.
So true. The fuel in those days had Castor oil. Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control flight from last week.
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I sold greeting cards also but I think I bought a b b gun
I had one as a boy and I loved flying it. Nice to reminisce on the old days…
That's great. Here is my Cox PT 19 flight from a few years ago, that you also may enjoy. Thanks so much. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. That Cherokee reminded me that NONE of the Cox models flew much better than bricks on the end of a string. When I was a kid, we had very little money and not a lot of patience. We finally discovered the balsa profile models and we powered them with the Babe Bee .049 and later (OMG) a Black Widow. Those models were quick to build and were a ton of fun to fly.
So true. We did that as well. Here is a link to one of my newer ukie videos. Enjoy. th-cam.com/video/NntPP4HA1E0/w-d-xo.html
Great story! I flew U-control when I was a brand new USAF navigator in the mid 70s. My Dad and I flew when I was a kid... Wonderful memories!
I love hearing father and son stories. Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 flight from this week.
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Thank you my friend for the trip down memory lane,grew up flying these in a control line model club in centennial park in Sydney back in the early 70,s,wish now I had kept some of the old planes I had,keep up the great videos,thanks again,LOVE IT
Thanks very kindly. I am editing a new Ukie video, so please stay tuned.
I bought my brother a U control P40 Warhawk .049 for a Christmas present in 70's or 80's cant remember, he never flew it and to this day its still brand new in box. Did alot of U control in 60's and early 70's, now days just R/C.
So glad to hear that. The P-40 was a very nice machine. I wish I hadn't lost mine in the fire. Thanks.
Thanks Dave.Great memories. As kids we'd build the scientific kits with .049s. One day at the field an "older guy" comes out with a 35 powered Ringmaster. Wow. Finally I saved up enough money for the Fox 35 (about $7 then) and the Ringmaster kit about $3. That was a lot of money for a kid in the fifties. I learned how to fly inverted! That was a big step. I eventually worked my way up to the "Nobler" which was the creme de la creme. Using Ambroid glue it took me about a year to build. Can you imagine kids nowadays working on a model for a year? By 1969 I started into R/C and still am building models in 2015....but it all started with the Cox .049....Skip
Skip Chernoff wow
I had the ringmaster and the Fox 35 also. Built and flew mine in the late 60s as a kid also went on to fly r/c as a teenager, then on to get my pilots license as a young adult. Was a great time to be a kid!
good ol ringmaster with a 35 on it ! had a few of them , how about the ol combat wings? jr satin and the vodo?
Great story, Skip, great memories. There was no READY MADE fun, you had to make it, earn it, and it felt great.
Words I have not heard in 50 years. My father flew the ringmaster with the Mcoy .35. No I can't imagine kids working on a project for a year but they will be well prepared playing first person shooter games when the Draft comes for WW3
My brother and I received 2 of the P40 Testers some time in the late 60's I think, with no adult supervision of any kind we managed to get one in the air for about 2 seconds, they then became ceiling hangers by fishing line in our bedrooms never to be flown again.
Too bad you gave up. Here is a newer video of me flying the PT 19 a few years ago. Thanks and enjoy. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
5 minutes into this video when he is starting the old thing i could smell the fuel i haven't smelled that stuff since 1977 when i had my cox dune buggy good memories
I had a silver P-63 Kingcobra, I had almost as much fun looking at it as flying it...the key to getting it running, I think, was having a good strong battery to power the glow plug, and having a clean glow plug. I always kept a glow plug wrench handy to check the battery by physically pulling the glow plug and making sure it glowed cherry red, if not bright orange. I had a couple of Wen-Mac (made by AMF) planes as well...a friend who lived down the hall made his own planes from sheets of 1/4" balsa. The fact that a lot of the .049 engines had integral fuel tanks/engine mounts screwed to the back of the crankcase made these SO easy to knock out in an afternoon...
I used to use planes like that too. Reminded me of summers spent in Arkansas with my grandparents deep in the Ozarks. Thanks for sharing that!
Thanks so kindly. Check this one out, if you liked this. My PT-19 last summer. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
When I was a kid, I was into Cox airplanes and cars. My brother was into Estes Rockets. I always crashed the planes, so I stuck with cars after that. I had a Thimble-Drome plane, and several cars. My brother's friend had a Shrike. Thanks for the great memories!
This brings back memories. My first lined controlled was the Cox P-40. I have owned two others since. Sadly I no longer have them, but man they were fun.
Thanks Glenn. Sadly all these were lost in the fire too, but I am trying to get ahead again as seen in my latest video on the pt 19.
Brings back found memories. One thing I learned when adjusting to elevator was to give it more up than down. Moved on from 049 to Nobler with .035 Stallion engine. One of my favorites was Fox 15 with stunt with no wheels.
Right on. That sounds great. Noblers were very popular along with the Thunderbirds I flew in the contests. Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control recent flight. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslYU/w-d-xo.htmlkie
I had cox planes when I was a boy, I never got them to fly, this is the first time I seen one in flight, 45 years it took to see it, but better late then never, nice flying
Same here. I could never get the things to start. I'm glad I finally got to see what it looked like in the air.
+jojojeep1 I never owned one as boy but my friend Joey had one, think it was a p-40 we got it to fly several times and had a few crashes. Hell I thought the scream of the Cox motors were cool! We then moved on to Estes rockets! Good times.
I had the P40 as a kid and I flew the wings off of it!
oh my god! you have certainly put a smile on my face! wow...im 45 yrs old and my cousin had a cox plane and a car when i was a kid. i used to love these things and i had completely forgot about them til now....awesome stuff. THANK YOU!!!!!
That sound ! Brings back memories of me and my Dad flying these !
Glad to hear that. I hated losing them all in the fire, but at least have this video for the memory. Thanks much.
Thanks for amazing video!
My father gave me one on 90’s and it was the best gift ever. I still remember how hard is to start it. The smell of the engine working. Great memories.
Thanks again for sharing.
We all loved the P40 for sure. I have some newer videos with a Cox PT 19 that you may enjoy too. Thanks kindly.
We all loved the P40 for sure. I have some newer videos with a Cox PT 19 that you may enjoy too. Thanks kindly.
@@NightFlyyer I will check it
Hey Man, You Sure Did Bring Back Some Memories. Back In The '60's, I Had A Piper Cherokee (I Think) With A .049 Wen Mac Engine. My Dad Would Take Me Up To The Sears Parking Lot On Sunday Because They Were Closed. After That Got Smashed, I Put The Engine On A Stunt Man 23 & It Came Off In Flight. I Bought A Little Red Biplane Made By Cox From A Neighborhood Kid & It Might've Lasted A Little Longer. To Be Honest, I Don't Think I Ever Flew One As Long As You Did In This Video But The Memories Are Worth It, Thanks . . .
WOW, that is a great story. I love hearing them. Thanks kindly for the kudos. Here is a link to last week's ukie flights where we got Goated that we bet you will enjoy! th-cam.com/video/HdmXA0Xc1ew/w-d-xo.html
I still have one of those old motors in the garage. I had 3 of those old planes and only flew one successfully. One of my brothers destroyed one before I got the chance to fly it, one flew straight up and down, shattering into pieces. The third flew well but by then I got bored with it and started building rockets, which I still do to this day. Thanks for the memories.
Wow! Now that brought back memories. I had both the P-40 and the PT-19. Loved them both.
Great to hear. Thanks much.
The smell of the exhaust from these engines is something I will never forget. Thanks for taking me back to some happy childhood memories.
Yes it is an unforgettable smell. Thanks kindly!
tmac 196 too bad these kids will never get that joy 'Letric' Just ain't the same.
You know, I have still unflown the Cox Stuka, Pt-19 Trainer and Corsair all in the box. I hope to get out this year and bring these little gems to life. BTW, history is right. You brought up some very interesting bits and pieces of your own past and that is all apart of this hobby that seems to be slowly fading with time. We can only hope to pass it on to a generation that is born with a mobile phone surgically attached to it's head. It's the only way to keep this hobby going.
Thebuilderofthings1: I'm very surprised people are not trying to get you to sell those planes! There are many people trying to buy those for pennies on the dollar to make a buck! I hope you get to fly them and enjoy them.
In ‘64 I had 3 or 4 control line Cox planes. Always wanted to be a fighter pilot. Unfortunately I wasn’t successful ‘cause I got too dizzy to complete a flight. I’m sure the same thing would happen if I ever got in a real fighter. 🤪👍🏻🤣
1957 1958 Flew a Piper tri-pacer.049 Cox Golden Bee successfully first try, I was 8. Went on to profile models like the ringmaster and ringmaster jr. With a bigger power plant like a 38 Fox Rocket then Enya.Had a bunch of engines given to me too. McCoy's and others some with piston rings, something I had never seen before. Never got into the remote, but did manage to get my Pilot's license with a Seaplane rating and have been flying for forty years. I enjoyed seeing you fly, brought back some good memories of a couple of guys I flew with winter or summer. On a side note, That Fox Rocket was notorious for catching fire, and boy did that prop hurt when it hit your finger, Chicken stick anyone?
I’m 62yrs old and still fly some cox planes i have 15 of them along with my bigger planes! I have a goldberg ultimate 10-300 biplane that i converted to control line with an ASP .91 it takes 2 hands to hold it but its cool as hell to fly!
That is great. Happy flying.
I used to fly my Ringmaster on 70 foot steel lines. You had to keep track of your inside loops, then do the exact number of outside loops to keep your lines from being crossed. I LOVED flying control line models in the Sixties as a young teen. When I took my first flying lesson in a real plane (Piper J-3 Cub) in 1966, I already knew how to make a landing as it is the same as landing a C/L airplane. I turned my model flying into a career flying real airplanes, including 29 years as a pilot for United Airlines. 54 years later I am still flying professionally and still have 5 flyable control line models. I have always felt my flying career really began the day in 1962, as a 12 year old, that I was able to fly my Baby Ringmaster for a full tank of fuel without crashing.
That's a great story. Glad your still flying. For me it was RF4B Phantoms in the Marine Corps. I still fly Ukie and have several videos of me flying them on my channel. I took my first trophy in 1962 in a stunt contest with a Veco Thunderbird and Johnson .35 combat special engine. At the contests we only used 60' steel lines, but have flown many times on 70's. Here is a video of my Cox PT19 from last year you may enjoy. All the balsa planes certainly flew better, and my fav was the Baby Flite Streak. Happy flying and Thanks. 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control recent flight.
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I just watched this again in May of 2020 because it's a great video, and a great piece of history! This brings me back to my youth.
Glad you enjoyed it. As you know, I lost all of these planes and more in that fire, but managed to get a Cox PT 19 and made some newer videos. Hope you got to see those too. Thanks very kindly, stay young and well.
my first flight was the pt 19 when i was 8, im 34 now and still hooked on flying. thanks for bring back all the memories of my first control line flights
Thank you for sharing I started on a cox nitro control line in 1980
That Disneyland demo worked. In 1958 I saw it & was mesmerized by the planes. They flew a pair in a combat game to try to cut off ribbons attached to the tail. That Christmas brought a PT-19 which never really flew well. Then a P-40 which was a wonderful model. I flew it & crashed it so often I got decent at fabricating replacement parts from balsa wood. Thanks for the video bringing back great memories.
Really brings back a lot of memories. Loved flying these planes 😊☕
Good to hear. Thank kindly.
thanks for the memories, cox Red Baron and P 40 Warhawk...........so much fun
Thank you. Stay tuned as more Control line videos coming.
Thanks for bringing back a piece of my youth! I can honestly say the flights did not last that long or as level!!!!
Thanks a lot Frank. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control flight from last week.
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Nice blast from the past. This is just what I was looking for to show my Grandson who's only 3. I could never find them when my boys were growing up. Now we have the internet. The old Cox planes were a "B" to get started but a blast to fly. Thanks for the memories.
I'm watching you fly, and I could almost swear I can smell nitro-methane. One of my brothers had a green Cox p40 when I was a kid. No idea what ever became of it.
Nitro and castor oil.
Nitro and castor work well in these planes but damn it's messy!! All the times after a flight session getting off the residue then eventually having to replace the stickers on the plane due to them getting soaked.
But the memories far outweigh the mess!
@@deathstrike AH.. Yes the bean oil smell, love it.
FLASHBACK!!! I had the P-40 when I was a little kid, I left it in the back of my mother's VW bug and it melted in the sun and became unflyable... I remember crying my eyes out... Then I went to the Gillows balsa kits and implemented the .049 into a couple free flight models until it eventually flew too far and I couldn't find it. late 70's early 80's... what a time to be alive! RC was relatively new technology and the radios were square metal boxes!
Great story! Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control flight from last week.
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That brought back some memories.
I remember in the 70s all you lucky "Big Kids" on the street had these. I loved watching the tethered mustangs and P40s and others had dragsters or other racing cars. I loved the sounds and I can still smell that fuel. Now I'm a 56 year old "Big Kid" ready to finally join you in the street. 😆
Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control recent flight. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslYU/w-d-xo.htmlkie
I had the Spitfire. Still have the piston and rod. It hangs from my rear view. I became a Small Engine Mechanic.
I started back in the 50's. Had a lot of different planes, mostly wood and fabric. I have two left, a wood Stuka and a P-40 Flying Tiger that has never out of box since I bought it. Lots of good fun back then.
Thanks For the Memories
I got Dizzy Watching
@NightFlyyer - You must be around my age as I built and flew many U-Control planes, both balsa and ready built plastic. The Wen-Mac Corsair was my first plane. I smashed it to pieces in the school parking lot the first flight - ooooh, that hurt! Also had a Cox .049 Trainer that was held together with large rubber bands and would 'fly apart' on impact instead of smashing to pieces like others. Those Cox .049 engines were very strong and dependable. Had a Cox Tee Dee .010, and boy could that little engine turn some RPM! Also had the tethered Cox Prop Rod which was a lot of fun. Great memories from our yester - years!
I sure hear a lot of similar stories for sure and can relate myself.
Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control flight from last week, (held together with rubber bands)
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Remember the rtf u-control planes powered by the Wen Mac gas engines? A competitor to Cox with scale looking planes but not enough power to really fly........usually lifted off and hung vertically by the prop. Ah, the memories.....I grew up and became a toy designer! Now at 70, I still design rc cars so I'll never grow up, no way!
Steven Reiss What an incredible job. Sounds like to me that you've cracked the code of "never having to work a day in your life" Very nice Sir.
Thanks, John! I really am blessed.........designing RC cars is a wonderful way to grow old....BUT....NEVER mature. Seriously, I grew up in NYC where flying space was limited BUT I still remember the day that my dad and I were walking in Van Cortlandt Park in the Bronx (NYC, uptown)when we heard the drone of a large gas engine.........ran all over until we could find the source: a U/C combat wing with a McCoy 35 Red head.......Oh God, those days are gone forever BUT what fun we used to have. Of course, back then, lawyers weren't advertising their "services" on TV and there was this odd thing called "personal responsibility" that parents taught their kids. Does anyone remember the nearly invisible flame that spilled model airplane gas would burn your fingers with?? Usually happened after priming the Babe Bee 049s and you knew it ONLY when you felt the burn happening...........oh boy, I could go on and on. Thanks so much to ALL of you for the memories.
nice seeing those old planes fly
Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control recent flight. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslYU/w-d-xo.htmlkie
I had a Stuka that someone stole while on recess at school. My dad never bought me another model anything. All he cared about was baseball which i hated. The kids who bonded with their fathers were lucky.
I had the Stuka too. I don't think it was a Cox, What was the competitor? It was a little bit more flexible than Cox so was less breakable.
I had a Stuka too. I also had a yellow cox plane. I can't remember the name but I remember that it looked a bit like a chipmunk trainer.
Oh my good Lord did that awaken some old memories. I'll never forget my dad introducing me to the old U-lines. He was doing a wing over and the lines went slack, he took off across the field and he catches his foot on the pitchers mound. He went ass over tea kettle a shoe goes one way in the air and the plane never had a chance,one word, SHATTERED! Never laughed so hard watching it happen ,even dad was laughing away. Father and son bonding moment.
Yeah, cox planes looked cool but flew like a motorized brick. Balsa wood models made much better planes.
They were way too heavy.
I had one when i was a kid in like 1978 , hours and hours of fun . I still have Vertigo Tho :} Thanks for the memories
Right on, Louis. Thanks much.
if you had that electric plane when you were a boy back in 1960 , they would have stoned you for being a devil or witch craft .
rc planes were around in the 1930's,just no one had the time or money to enjoy them. Wars made sure of that. There are some neat old videos on line showing RC and line control planes,they were all the rage.
My Dad taught me to build free-flight, rubber powered and Cox-powered Control Liners out of balsa/silkspan/white glue back in the 1970's. My school buddy has that Piper (Comanche?) and the P-51 'stang with some weird throttle control (a third line I think it was??). Many fond memories for building/flying/crashing them all! I have one homemade, solid balsa wing with flaps.....that had the outer wing fold up vertically one flight after a hard landing the previous flight. Damn thing kept flying until fuel ran out!
A good story. I crashed and ruined several Voodoo combat wings and know they fly pretty good with only the inside wing. Thanks for the story and be well.
I'll never forget my first flight itwas the cox f15. around 1977 I was 7years old I was so happy that I ran over picked it up by the business end and had a perfect branding of the head campleat with fins wrench slots , glow plug in the center of my palm .. thank you for the memories
Excellent vid NightFlyer. Brought back a lot of memories. I always found the old Cox U-control stuff (PT-19, Mustang, P-40, et al) a bit heavy and was more of a "brick on a string" feeling when flying them. Later, more powerful and larger U-Control balsa aerobatic aircraft like the Chipmunk with a Fox .35 really gave you the feeling of flying, like you said, would do square 8's, inside and outside loops on 65' of flying wire. I learned early on how to keep from getting dizzy while flying a round. You turn your body with the plane and play catch-up with your head just as the plane starts leaving your peripheral vision. Thanks for posting!
The thing I like about UC is you rarely crash more than 60 feet away. I say rarely because in SF I saw two guys flying combat and one cut both lines on the other, and last we saw the plane, it was heading over the bay.
Haha,. That can happen!
I enjoy watching your program so much...that I can't wait to get home from work to see if you have anymore uploaded ! your voice has an awesome " tone" making narration's superb ! The History and understanding the science that you make me understand ...brings back memories, ...Thank You so much for giving me this priceless moments !
I still remember my old flitestreak with the shortened wings and hopped up os 29, man that thing could really go. We used to get a couple of us in the circle for some combat fun now and then, it was a real hoot. Thanks for bringing back the old days Dave.
I came back again. I have a few of these old engines, and remember the McCoy 35 series as being the hardest to start. The little Cox .049 were always reliable for the "Boards" we built as kids......wing, control horn, elevator.... fly combat against my brother with crepe paper at first..... haha, then typical kid, fly till CRASH!. How did we take the circles.... you did very well, Sir! Thanks again for posting. I am going to try and boil a few of these poor delightfull engines in antifreeze and try to loosen them up. "Flying Bumble bees they were". Congrats on the success flying and THANK YOU for your service...!! I missed Vietnam in the draft. I remember watching with my u-control buddies that I grew up with, as they drew numbers for the draft.
I appreciate ya
That 1st plane that was flown was the first control line plane I had as a kid. Thanks for the memories.😃
Your Flying Skills Are Outstanding, You can always tell a nature pilot on his loops,turns,starts,ends and the sound of the planes motor !!!!
Thanks for the great video
Sizzle, Wow I forgot about that. It seems I remember the P-40 back in the late 60's and early 70's being a lot bigger. I had two of them, a Tan one and a Green one, best I remember. Maybe I was just a lot smaller back then, LOL. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control recent flight.
th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
this brought back so many memeories of my cox plane circa 1964-65. Great stuff!
So glad to hear that. Thanks very kindly!
Very funny video, Thanks ! My older brother flew many Cox planes and thanks to him i eventually got a Cox 049 powered ski-doo in 1974... I never looked back and still build my own custom RC Snowmobiles 35 years later ...
The Cox Super Chipmunk and Messerschmitt Stunter with the hollow foam wings from the ‘70’s were the only Cox RTFs that you could really fly. I still have the Chipmunk stunter from the 90s with the solid foam wing, but it doesn’t fly as well as the older ones. My first Cox was the Bushmaster- a Super Cub with wheels, skis and floats, about 1973.
That's a great line up and story. Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 U Control flight from this week.
th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
I'm now 50 and had a Ju87 Stuka, P40-warhawk and a red twin tailed rescue plane {I forgot it's correct designation} as a kid in the 70's loved it! Thanks for the video and links. And more importantly Sir Thank you for your military service
I have a hurricane, never flew it. And saw it yesterday as I was clearing out my dear old dads garage. He sadly passed away but he was the driving force in my life when it came to everything aviation moddeling. Miss you dad.
My buddy up the road had some sort of plastic model,maybe P-51,not cox,had a WenMac engine,the few times we could get it running it was too heavy to take off on its own,hand launch wasn't much better. Your website brings back a lot of memories.Keep em flying😊
I use to fly these. Brings back alot of memories, the sizzle, the sound. Wish i still had mine.. alot of fun..
Boy does this bring back some memories
Thanks so kindly. I would bet if you liked this, you will like to see my latest video of my 63 year old Cox PT 19 flight from this week. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
Remember so many under powered Cox planes , we would take them back to store Ha Ha . When we got into more power one could stand still and figure eight in any position . Thanks for your post !
I flew these when I was a kid and later graduated on to free flight models and then on to RC.
One of my free flight models was a design that my dad came up with off the top of his head
It had profile fuselage and a sheet balsa wood wing, horizontal and vertical stabilizers the
vertical stabilizer was made from a scrap piece of 1/8 inch balsa that look like the side profile
of an outhouse so that is what we called it “THE OUTHOUSE” It had a Cox 020 on it for an engine
my dad modified the full tank by drilling a hole in the side of it and running a piece of fuel line out of
the tank to a glass eye dropper mounted at a forward angle on the side of the fuselage with marks
on the fuselage for engine runtime, this way you could get the engine running adjust the needle valve
wait for the fuel level to get down to the engine run time that you wanted and launch it would run until the fuel
ran out and glide back down. As time went on I got braver and braver with longer and longer run engine run
times until it's last flight, I launched it with a full eye dropper the last I saw of it, it was heading northwest
towards Tampa bay.
I chased on my bicycle until it was just a speck in the sky that was back around 1966
and I think it’s still flying today. Years later after I went on to flying RC models I went in the Air Force and while I was
Stationed at Tyndall AFB just east of Panama City, Florida I met up with a guy named Bill Dixson.
Bill was the best control line model flyer that I had ever seen, he would fly an entire flight without making
a single circle. He flew on 55 ft lines at 45 degrees up and never make a complete lap. Bill wanted to learn to fly RC
models so I taught him to fly RC, and he would fly them at 55 ft out and at 45 degrees up. and never make a complete lap
I guess that was his comfort zone.
Such a great story for sure and thanks for serving. I was in the USMC aviation wing for 34 years myself, so can relate. Thanks again. Here is a link to last week's ukie flights where we got Goated that we bet you will enjoy! th-cam.com/video/HdmXA0Xc1ew/w-d-xo.html
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Thanks I am glad you liked the story, I don;t know whatever happened to Bill we lost contact after I got out of the AF.
You can check out some of my early videos on my old TH-cam channel th-cam.com/users/Uavman2videos
This is my favorite video on that channel it is me flying a 10 ft Ultralight Model that another friend of mine Bruse Knox built bac in 2002 th-cam.com/video/xwf9-VH7f-4/w-d-xo.html
I have forgotten the login and password for that channel so I had to start a new one, there are some of my older videos on the new channel.
Thanks
Dave.
Thank you for shing brings back some great childhood memories, They sure do look small now.
A visit to Disneyland back in 1962 was my introduction to control line flying. There was a demonstration of combat flying in Tomorrow Land that got me hooked. 3 weeks later was my birthday and I got a Cox/Testors Lil' Toot Biplane with the Cox .020 engine. A few crashes later and lack luster performance my next was the Cox P-51 with the Thimble Drone 049 engine. My dad crashed it on it's maiden flight, but it did introduce me into model building my own planes out of balsa and doped tissue paper. I'm retired now but never stopped building and flying, even building a jet model of the plane I flew for real!
Great to hear. I too watched many of those fliers at Disneyland, long after I began flying them at age 8, but it was fun to watch. Good on you and happy flying. Thanks.
Wow I am and old bugger from down under, but as soon as you said "Blue and Yellow PT 19 " a flood of great memories came back like it was yesterday including that smell from the glow plug and fuel. Thanks so much for posting this.
Wow, really took me back. My father bought me a U-line F-15 Tom Cat in the mid 70's. Thanks for bringing back sime great memories.
I got my first U control plane Christmas of 61. It was a Wen Mac Corsair. I was five years old and too young to fly it but Daddy had a good time with it. It didn't want to start in the cold weather but summer to brought it to life. I was hooked! I built and flew them until' '72. The bigger ones really had a pull and long control cables. The .049s were my favorites though.
Some 42 years ago, I got my first Cox plane a F4U that came in a box with the picture of it taking off a carrier. Then i got the Crusader with the foam wings, Battlestar replica, ending with the flying saucer. Brought back many memories.
These plastic plane started my fun with model planes. Started with the plastic planes which was followed by Flat Balsa 1/2A, .049's, then to Build-up balsa wings, flat sided fuselage. Then on to .35 powered planes, then in 1976 got my first radio and into full build-up planes, scratch building. Today 59 inch WS planes and 6 channels with .46 engines. I am a happy "Wet" flyer.
Engine powered planes have a long flight times, so much more than the Electric's today. Besides the power systems cost about the same with the electrics and the batteries are the largest out of pocket cost. Once a person learns to handle the more powerful 2 cycle alcohol fueled engines the reliably goes way up. I still enjoy the 2 channel .049 powered 24 inch wingspan planes. I can fly all afternoon on less than a quart of fuel. Great way to practice flying R/C for little cost.
That is a great story and glad to hear it. Electrics are as you say, but my heart has always been with nitro biplanes, since winning a few trophies at the National Multiwing championships years ago. I recently acquired this Gasoline powered Pitts, and I donated my Byron Nitro (Belt drive) Pitts to the AMA museum, and agree. Gasoline is still cheapest as the last gallon of Nitro 20%, cost me $70! Heres my latest Pitts video. Please enjoy and thanks so kindly! th-cam.com/video/AcqLCqgiQ70/w-d-xo.html
I had a Cox powered remote car, it was hard to start, but once it got going it was great fun.
Right on.. Those were fun. Make sure to see my PT 19 video too. Thanks kindly. th-cam.com/video/BU0z7ddwslY/w-d-xo.html
What FUN !
Great day to fly. You`ve had an interesting life, Dave...
Thanks for sharing !
when i was a kid i had the cox pt19 trainer. i would spend afternoons constantly refilling the tank and flying over and over again it was so addicting.
Yes, those Blue and Yellow Pt 19s were great, even covered with Glow Fuel Exhaust Oil. LOL.
God this just took me back 46 years ago. I went threw 3 of them. Cox army jeeps to. I have the big boy nitro planes and traxxas trucks now. Life long child hood for me. Good job getting that thing going
Thanks very much. Stay tuned, as I have put my big machines and jets down for a while too, and am presently editing a Ukie video.
MAN! That brings back some memories! I also remember getting so dizzy. Your Piper sounded a litle rich but I saw you wiggle the plane to get it to cut out. After seeing that I remember doing the same thing. My first Cox was the PT-19 and after that I moved to balsa CL planes, all .049s. There's nothing better smelling than burnt nitro. Thanks
Got my Cox in '59 or '60. It was a .049 profile fuselage PT-19 with rubber bands to keep the wing on. Eventually the plastic motor mount got fuel soaked and brittle and broke in the inevitable crash. Great fun.
I know the feeling. Thanks kindly. Enjoy this one if you get a chance. th-cam.com/video/NntPP4HA1E0/w-d-xo.html
👍 Very nice short review of the aero modelling hobby. You took me back in to my childhood memories. Cox .049 engines and control line models.
Holy moly mackerel Andy this takes me way back to my cox Messerschmitt one quarter rotation to totaled crash in 3 seconds flight when I was young!! Thanks much Dave
Hi Dave,
Brings back memories. Had the Cox P-40 as my first control line and then the Stuka. May still have the Stuka around here someplace. The Ringmaster was my stunt plane. Went through several. Believe I have one left with a busted wing.
Happy Holidays to you and the family.
I am happy to hear about your Ukies too. This video is now 10 years old and of course my ukies were all burned up. Got a PT-19 last spring as you know, so still trying to get dizzy... LOL. Merry Christmas to you as well and thanks for everything you have done for me. ~Dave
My first control line plane. The Cox P40. When you first fired up that 049 I could actually smell it. Thanks.
Brings back some good memories... my cousin had the Stuka and I had the p38... I remember blue with slight metal flake in the plastic, must have been the late 70's I guess, we managed to get the Stuka off the ground for a bit but not long enough to get dizzy.. great fun though
I finally got back on roller skates after 25 years. I used to pretty much live at the rink. I got a job there and eventually went on to teach dance skate as well as competition skate. After q5 years I could hardly stand up. after I stopped thinking about it and let my feet take over instead of my brain, I was doing better. I will admit,I doubt I will ever be as good as I used to be. I dont want to break anything. It was great just getting out there and skating again. I miss the disco music. Anyway,I hope to run across an old Corsair like the one I had. many great memories with that.
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I'm 63. I used to skate every single Friday and Saturday night at the Pismo Beach roller rink in the mid 70's as it was the cheapest thing to do. I have not skated in 25 years. Just the other day I stepped off my friend's Tollycraft boat and the plastic stool on the dock collapsed. Wow, the muscle memory kicked in and I did a crazy move and saved my bones. Never fell! Part of that stool went 15 feet away.
And my dad wrapped a Cox Cosmic Wind around my neck while flying on the garage roof. The prop cut the lines after 3 times around my neck. I was 5 years old... My favorite was the Cox P-63 , .049 of course.
Thanks for sharing the old Cox models. I remember them well.
Still have several brand new Cox motors of various sizes in their unopened boxes plus a shoe box full of 'broken' bits.
It is a pity they were (are) so noisy because they ran for ages on a small tank of gas. Also have several fitted with a sort of muffler and throttle sleeve which makes them great for small radio control models. Thanks for opening that box of memories.