IT'S UNFAIR WHAT ECHO DID TO YAWI AT MPL PH S12. . .😟
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2023
- IT'S UNFAIR WHAT ECHO DID TO YAWI AT MPL PH S12. . .😟
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Its so stupid to change lineup after winning a world title. What more did they wanted. Synergy plays a very huge role in team fights.
Right? They’re already at their peak. What a waste. But let’s see on the next season. Echo is still Echo (but let’s hope no player will leave the team).
They lost in MSC, ESL, and World Cyber Games(defeated by their own MDL team). Yawi's playstyle has been read by the opposing teams. Remember that the main lineup wanted Jaypee more than Yawi and the proof is in the scrims. You Yawi fans close your eyes to the reasons why he didn't play because all you see were the highlights from M4 and MPL S11.
Actually it was explained why Yawi was forced to leave out the main 5 roster. After the evaluations done by the management they concluded that the fault was within Yawi’s playstyle. Imagine being defeated consecutively in recent international tournaments were they participated. What worst was they lost against their own MDL team (Echo Proud) which Jaypee was still a member back then.
the thing with yawi is he only knows how to rush forward with fast hands. that can be good most of the time but if u vs pro rushing forward too fast can actually make u lose the game. look at the last game when yawi rush forward yawi and his whole team was so far apart. i don know it's yawi fault for rushing in or team fault for being slow.
@@DibIrkendid after jaypee joining roster djd they won anything? Bren roster still remains the same evern after losing mpl, msc, esl all this time and their synergy is the reason why they are in M5 now.
Epical glory dnt try to teach other. More time given by same roster means more synergy among them.
This synergy collapse with same players playing alongside each other only when they lost the enthusiasm and have no ambition to achieve further.
Echo still got high ambition so the change of roster becomes disaster for them this season.
Fking epical glory logic commenting in chat without any knowledge how game is played.
Blacklist is known for passive gamestyle as their players like edward n oheb has adapted venus style while with the coming of renejay they have now both passive as well as aggressive game style which was a blessing in disguise.
To counter bl u need to more agressive and accurate which can only be succeed when same roster played all time with each other to make their synergy good.
Where is low mentality epical glory comes from? Kid better watch cartoon.
Let's be honest here, Echo is not getting the chou skin because of all of them use it, it was because of YAWI. It was Yawi skin.
Game 3 basically shows that no matter how good the support if the enemy tank set you up it is useless. And one more thing, people using the word passive without even knowing it's proper meaning. Passive means waiting for things to happen without taking action, so basically Jaypee plays depending on what fate gives? That is why they lost, they wait for things to happen without creating the proper scenario for their advantage.
They play for the late game.Thats y the r passive
Echo took out their own advantage which is being unpredictable and thought being calm would make them better
Once again, with only a two appearance in the series, Yawi never fails me to impress with those aggressive setups.
But attitude inside the whole echo including players and coaches is a different thing.
Echo is a perfect example of if it aint broke dont fix it. Aggressive si Yawi pero gifted sya mechanically kaya bawi sa clash. The chemistry between him , Sanji and Benny is undeniable. Akma gameplay nya sa galawan ni Benny. I think pinakamalaking adjustment na ginawa is side ni Benny . Hindi na siya ganun kaaggressive simula ng mawala si Yawi. Which caused their downfall.
Anunh pinag sasabo mo bah mag mpl sa tagal nilang nag laro sa ibamg torna sumali napansin na ngbapat na kasama ni yawi na d na sya dit sa laro kaya bumuto sila kaya nga pinalitan sya at saka iba na meta ngayun pueo lau yawi dahil na talo
@@titan.cameraman.57galit na galit amp
di naman aggressive si benny. si yawi lang. si benny nakakapagsplit lang dahil sa aggressiveness ni yawi dati. now na passive lang si jaypee, nagkakaroon ng space na yung kalaban, sila pa bugbog sa crossmap. buti nga maganda talaga galaw ni sanji at sanford kundi wala na kabanban sa kanilang team
Pareho nmn magaling si Jaypee and Yawi. Nagbabago lng tlga ng playstyle nila. Sabi nga ni coach bon if si Jaypee, very discipline and smooth ng playstyle nila. Pero pag si yawi very explosive and chaotic ng playstyle n kung saan nakilala ang "ECHO EXPRESS". E kasi ang BLCKlist very consistent sila kaya ung disciplined n style d tlga eepek sa kanila. Kaya need nila ng " ECHO EXPRESS" Pag BL ang kalaban.
Bro if u gon type in ph don't start in English, y'all leave us non oh speaker hanging.
For those who didn't know. They scrim with yawi and with jaypee in different games and afted those scrims, 4 member of the echo voted who is more viable for the line up and 4 of them voted jaypee over yawi
bcs they had internal problems. they voted jp bcs they had internal problems with yawi, not bcs he's more viable for the line up. they don't even play 5-man with yawi anymore in ranked and people expected him to play well...
Sanji voted for Yawi.
@@leagueofbullshit did you really understand the post of tictac? Before even the start of s12 they are already looking for the best line up. They scrim 2:2 and jaypee got a better results, they also scrim against their mdl team to determine their line up. 2 for yawi 2 for jaypee I guess jaypee got a better results in scrim then the voting happens, 3 players voted for jaypee then coach tictac and trebor split their vote. Nung nagsimula na ang season tsaka lang naging 3:1 ang hatiaan nina jaypee and yawi for scrim, viable naman kase si jaypee ang naglalaro nung playoffs lang nawalan ng scrim time si yawi I guess mas nagfocus sila kay jaypee ride or die. Wala na tayong magagawa move on na lang I guess bye bye yawi na eto next season.
@@Riri-oj1zs really?
@@sheesh6085
Scrims are different from the actual game on stage. Kita mo kahit walang practice si Yawi e nakaisa sila sa Blacklist kasi iba talaga yung impact ni Yawi sa drafting pa lang. Kita mo biglang nagreact yung Blacklist sa drafting phase. Si Jaypee wala kang ibaban diyan. Alam mo na kung bakit.
-yawi and echo don't even play 5 man anymore in ranked, and people expected him to play well.
-echo played yawi at the playoffs' last stand match, so people would probably blame yawi if it's 3-0.
edit - also playing yawi at match point made him take so much pressure.
And even with that, yawi still played well, there were some rough spots on that game for him sure but you can see the impact, lets say jaypee has slightly better shotcalling but look how freely benny and the others can play aggressively with yawi on the team, ive never seen benny got a comfortable lead on the gold lane on that match with jaypee playing.. yes, echo express is a strat/gameplay that does have risks (its always been high risk high reward) its been that way since m4, its compensated with the team's teamfight prowess in which yawi is one of the main pillars of it..
Wisemen: “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it”
Echo management: it’s working too well. Let’s fix it.
🙄
True wise words ....You displayed the scene just with one comment ❤ .
What exactly was working? Echo lost every tournament after m4 with yawi. Maybe not his fault entirely, but echo wasn’t the same after m series
Just like kiboy said. Mobile Legends Professional Job is very strong competitivly. If you play bad, its mostly you will changed very fast with other player. People doesnt care about your past, or about family or friend. Its about winning the games, the team will pick any player that have that tendency to winning. Its harsh truth
It is really upsetting that they only let Yawi play when they’re already losing
They're losing because yawi lol
@@nightsky9104 lol get a life bro, if yawi did'nt come in, it was 3-0 as before...
@@nightsky9104 DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE MATCH
@@nightsky9104I destroy people like you in rank so that low iq players like you never play rank ever again.
@@nightsky9104 u need a brain u know that? they didnt let yawi play in regular season and playoffs this is the only time echo let him play
The pH team believes that the Indonesian team (EVOS) did not develop DLAR's potential and did not even play it in MPL ID last season... But the PH team itself did the same thing with YAWI 😅
YAWI itself is a Roamer that Indonesian teams are quite wary of. it's very unfortunate, even though ECHO's Identity is an aggressive pick off that Yawi often does... that's how to beat the Blacklist, if you compete in Discipline the Blacklist is still above ECHO.
Forget the results they won the 3rd game with Yawi after losing 2games with Jaypee.. that was quite satisfying.
They should stick with Jaypee in Game 3. I see their plan. They put Yawi in Game 3 hoping he will lose the match and will say in media "they tried but did not deliver" but they WON Game 3 with his aggressive plays.
Can you see the BANS in Game 3? They ban all Yawi's heroes! Imagine the respect there.
You will see Yawi was always infront and not passive. Always checking. Always engaging. That's the Echo we always wanted.
ya. he's the key always but others cant be same level with him.
NO YAWI🤣🤣🤣NO ECHO EXPRESS 🤣🤣🤣YAWI PLAYSTYLE IS THE KEY 🤣🤣WHEN JAYPEE IS THE ROAMER ECHO BECOME PLAYSAFE STYLE🤣🤣🤣HE CANT EVEN PICK OFF 🤣🤣🤣UNLIKR YAWI YOU'VE SEEN SO MANY PICK OFF OF YAWI😌😌😌
Yawi will check every bush and always engage whenever he sees a chance lol. Jaypee is waiting for like new year till he engages.
@@CyzerR001
miss old echo that unweakness team.
If only yawi played from the first match
This is the cruelty of META changes, the strongest team without weaknesses can suddenly turn into an ordinary team full of weaknesses. If you can't keep up with META changes then you will be left behind. It's just that I don't really like META changes in the middle of the competition. I would prefer if META was introduced before the competition and only changed after the competition.
true. i was so wondered why ML always change the heros even tournament is on going.
i just love to watch tournament .
but there're so many changes always.
i even feel like ML made current situation for blacklist.so black can win again(Heal meta)
there's nothing fair.
people can ask ML to make good situation for some team by money.
i love how Echo plays anyway. '
@@crazycat757 v33nus didn't even play this season. what are you trying to say.
@@AMIRULASYRAF-gm4vo
lol. are u talking about this month??lol
@@crazycat757it is like saying echo only won before because the meta was on there favor and also because ml nerfed veenus heroes.
@@jrahitva
Mmmm. i actually didn't watch tournament recently. i'm busy.hahaha
people become busy cuz no more covid.
as other people said Yawi is too fast hand and move and others are too slow. so they cant follow the Romer then he's like left behind.
Yawi isnt bad player. that's too good i guess.
explosiveness & consistency are far different. that was yawi & jaypee. consistent that can play in different opponent, while explosive can play more than what different opponent expected to a team.
sad to say Echo mas ginusto nila ang consistency kaya naubosan sa dulo. that's for me kasi nakilala ang Echo in previous compitation to be a Explosive Team.
As I see it, nawala kasi yung identity ng echo na aggressive. Naging passive sila. Nung start ok sya kaya sila nanalo ng 11-0. Pero since lahat kasi ng teams now ay ganun ang style nakaadopt lahat on how to counter echo. Parang alam na nila na oh atayan for the right moment. Unlike before, echo will take the risk and in sinc sila on how and who they will pick off. Sayang lang at nasira yung way of playing nila.
Echo management like EVOS 😂
If Yawi playing form the first game thing will be changed
They said yawi was too aggresive pick off type roamer and they wanted a passove tnk like yapee, now look at the result 😂😂
Fact
@@WiSe0014 yeah it was same with BL and Veewise but with BL it clearly change their game for the better, they needed a better aggressive lineup and i don't know why Echo change their lineup when they were killing it everywhere
Yawi should change team as soon as the contract ended.
Irithel + Support/Mathilda auto win, we need continuous damager with running skill
KARMA IS REAL. TOP3 SECURED. DAPAT WE RIDE TOGETHER WE FALL TOGETHER. DAPAT MAKE EACH OTHER BETTER WALANG LAGLAGAN. KUNG MAY PROBLEMA SA CA COMS NI YAWI KAUSAPIN NILA> MAGPRAKTIS SI YAWI NG IBANG HERO> MADALI LANG AYUSIN YAN PERO KUNG PINAGKAKAISAHAN YUNG TAO WALANG MAAYOS DON. AT FAULT NG MANAGEMENT YUN> FAULT NG COACHES. FAULT NI TICTAC FAULT NI MITCH. DAPAT DIN KUMUHA SILA NG MALA OCHO GAHABA NA ANALYST PARA MALAMAN NILA YUNG HERO USED KUNG SINO AKMANG HERO SA BAWAT ISA AT KUNG SAAN PLAKDA SA HERO> KASE KUNG TALO SILA SA GAMES HINDI LANG SI YAWI MAY KASALANAN DON> 5 PLAYERS YON DAPAT ALAM NG MANAGEMENT YUN HINDI SOLUSYUN YUNG PALITAN. PWEDE NAMAN NA IN GAME LANG PALITAN HINDI YUNG BUONG SEASON TAPOS PAGLALARUIN KA TALO NA PARANG IKAW POA NEED MAGSALBA SA TEAM JUSMIYONG UTAK YAN
echo really broke what they didnt need to fix wow so bad
Well, Life of a pro player, not only in PH, in Indo too almost like this with Albert.
But not as bad as this Echo, playoff and last stand match 🤦
Yawi deserve better
ang gusto ko sa laruan ni yawi mas priority nya masave kakampi nya kaysa sa sarili nya, ang tunay na dapat paguugali ng roamer at support ipagpalit ang sarili sa kaligtasan ng team; ang mganda p dun nagkakapera yung dapat magkapera sa game tulad ng jungler mm at control, kaya dismayado ako sabihin na natin may problema sa comms pero ano ba epektib na nanalo ang team o passive at pitas ang labanan mas mbilis pa tumakbo sa duguan
Echo management shot themselves in the foot with this one. They lost because they did this to themselves. They bring their comms out for the world to see and hear, and they benched the best roamer in the league. They burned their own house.
its too late.... lipat ka nlang idol yawi.....
That chou jp like random chou in ranked 😂😂😂
Hope Echo learn from their new lineup that make them loose this season, really missed yawi this season 😢
They benched yawi for jaypee to play yawi's heroes?? Kaja Chou
Kaya nga sla house of highlights kasi unpredictable pero dati un,
Ego In, Identity Out for Echo. Regroup, bawi next season.
2:24 wtf karl? He petrified himself.
what are you saying? it's clear that he's waiting for the lord hp to go down so he can burst and retri
@@grim9879yeah he's also waiting to be obliterated.
@@grim9879katl the goat waiting for retri in front of 5 enemy, clear GOAT level game sense.
They tried to play utility against a team like blacklist, that's their mistake.They should remember that the only way they beaten blacklist utility gameplay is with their aggresive playstyle but without yawi they're can't do that
I feel yawi...idol yawi much better lipat kana Ng team sa BL ka nlang mas need ka Ng ibang team
.patunayan mo sa kanila kung ano Ang sinsayang nila
KAYA NGA KYO MAY MGA RESERBANG PLAYER PARA LAHAT MAKALARO HINDI PARA IBANGKO.
8:12 😮
I think hindi lahat ng apat na teammates ni Yawi ay hindi siya binoto meron siguro ni isa na binoto si Yawi kaso natandaan ko na sabi ng Manager nila na majority wins so si Jaypee ang mas gusto nila maglaro. Mali nila na hindi pinaglaro si yawi kahit sa regular seasons at scrims para naman sana mapreserve chemistry nila kahit si Jaypee ang mas gusto nila.
Asawa ba nmn ng manager ano mgagawa ng mga bata halata nmn gsto ng manager sumikat asawa nya kaya pinalitan baka mabuhat ng apat na bata na magaling 😅
Majority tlga una plang cla yung final decision panong majority e asawa kalaban ng apat na bata lol palusot sa mga basher yung mag asawa my karma yan nako pwede nyo lokohin mga fans pero sarili nla hndi
@@Maku_GrG kita mo na ba resulta 😂 na 4-0 nila yung defending champ 😂 samantalang si YAWA mo na 0-3 First round exit 😂
Lipat kana team yawi ipachampion mo rin yong iba kaya mo yan support ka namin saan kaman maglalaro na team
haha yawa first round exit, echo champs again
Jaypee is a dick for swapping up with Yawi after messing up
Xa na cguro mismo nag suggest na 6th man nlng xa kaz sa mga toxic na tao dahil xa sinisisi sa msc bakit cla natalo.
APBren stayed with their main line-up whatever the result is, whatever is lacking on the team will be eventually fixed with consistent scrims together. Ano ginawa ng echo? Palit player agad konting stumble lang sa performance..
4:49 bro thinks he's Yawi
I didn't see a single spectacular move from Jaypee.
On MPL PH's standard, He's so average
Whatever..apbren go first..while you're team on the back..😅😅
nasa coach ang problema outdrafted palagi e
I'm sure M5 this time will be very, very exciting because the Chinese team has just entered Mobile Legends. We know how to play them, so be careful, they are the Earth's national team.
Ohh noo they need 2 or 3 year not this m5
Why they didn’t let Yawi to play in the first place?
My opinion
Yawi creates plays
Jaypee waits for things to happen and they usually go wrong
jaypee 4-0 🎉
Yawi 0-3 😂
This is not the ECHO I know... Where's the real ECHO...
like he said enemy alr know yawi's playstyle but why tf dont u teach him the new playstyle? I understand yawi likes pick off playstyle or aggressive but u shouldn't change one from main line up and say to change playstyle.
Yeah,becoz of that they deserved to lose
The prime echo period is over, we will determine whether the M2 and M3 champions will be champions again in their own country, M5 because China has just recruited the Mobile Legend moba.
Naglabas n ng statement ang echo. Communication problem daw. Ma command daw si yawi. So sino ba ang setter. Sa lahat naman madalas mag command is setter. So gusto ng team nila di na mag command si yawi. Kaya pala upo ni yawi parang nakatalikod sa team mate nya. Pansin ko lng. Goodluck nlng next season. Ganda ng chemistry nyo nung una. Tpos naging ganyan. Lipat nalang yawi.
Ma-ego din kasi yung mga players ng Echo kasi 3 diyan puro star player ng mga teams nila dati. Hirap pa naman kontrolin kapag mataas yung ego ng player.
Echo thought they would reverse swipe so they would play without Yawi till second match(expectation 2-3)
sa nakikita ko nagsimula lahat sa nepotism. sinamantala ni mitch na may tampo/galit o asar kay yawi yung mga ibang player para maipalit si husband. napagkaisahan si yawi, tapos last minute ginawang scapegoat kasi alam ni mitch na lalong lalala ang bashing sa kanila pag di nila ginamit pag natatalo na sila. aminin kasi natin may kayabangan talaga si yawi kahit dati pa, feeling pa star. well star player naman xa kaso di ganon trip ng mga kasama nya.
Sobrang okay ng chemistry niyan nila before this season. Nagkagulo lang siguro dahil nasanay sa panalo kaya nung natalo e nagsisihan na.
@@Riri-oj1zs kahit sino naman walang aamin sa totoong motibo lalo kung ikasasama ng imahe ng management. business sila bababa ang value nila kapag nalaman na nepotism talaga dahilan. pero kitang kita naman yon ng mga fans, kahit sino gaganda chemistry kung lagi magkakasama maglaro. shoutout rafflesia
@@ronaldcaya1276
Hindi kasi natin alam yung iba pang totoong nangyayari sa bootcamp, or yung buong story. Pwede kasi talagang may violation si Yawi and based sa mga nakikita ko at alam ko e may malalang nagawa si Yawi though hindi yun related sa mismong laro pero medyo malala talaga. Then mas maganda naman laro ni Benny kapag si Yawi yung roamer kaya hindi rin ako makapaniwala na binoto ni Benny si Jaypee kasi but4w ang laro ni Benny kapag si Jaypee yung roamer.
Pero at the end of the day, management talaga ang sasalo ng lahat ng sisi kasi dapat nahandle nila yan nang mas maayos kahit sino pa may kasalanan.
@@Riri-oj1zs kung yan ang opinyon mo di goods, pero mas naniniwala ako sa nakikita ko lalo nung lumabas yung clip na minura mura ni yawi si sanford tapos nakangisi si karl. dun palang ramdam mo na, na nayayabangan sila kay yawi. alam ni mitch yon kaya sinamantala niya. di niya lang matanggal pa si yawi gaya kay rafflesia kasi nga dipa end contract, business is business.
Kung sana ang ginawa ng Echo ay pinagsasalit nila sila Jaypee saka Yawi sa scrims, mayroon sana silang teamfight lineup saka explosive lineup. Kaso wala e, kahit ano pa grind ni Yawi sa rg hindi naman niya laging nakakalaro ung mga teammates nya ng kumpleto (base lang sa streams niya). Sobrang unfair ng ginawa sa kanya lalo na nung pinasok pa sya kung kailan match point na blacklist, dagdag pressure pa yun.
Kagaguhan nga eh naawa talaga ako sa bata sana hindi yan makaapketo sa kanya mentally nasa prime pa man din nya siya ngayon
even s scrims left out si Yawi 😅
No Yawi no win 😞
I told em that in their official account they told me the manager is jaypee wife that's why they kicked him not fair mfs like i always say roam is the one who carry you
Yawi to new team this is just pure disrespect
him not playing the whole playoffs were too personal, he can leave now. he owns the champions skin anyway. chmapion chou belongs to yawi. fuck that shit
Malakas sinYawi bench ba naman sya at napasabak walang exposure mula sa umpisa
Yung pakiramdam na parang pinagkaisahan ka sa team
Nag chou si jaypee na baog 😂
Pareho nmn magaling si Jaypee and Yawi. Nagbabago lng tlga ng playstyle nila. Sabi nga ni coach bon if si Jaypee, very discipline and smooth ng playstyle nila. Pero pag si yawi very explosive and chaotic ng playstyle n kung saan nakilala ang "ECHO EXPRESS". E kasi ang BLCKlist very consistent sila kaya ung disciplined n style d tlga eepek sa kanila. Kaya need nila ng " ECHO EXPRESS" Pag BL ang kalaban.
they LOSE ECHO EXPRESS PRESSURE
If all the interviews were true, we can’t really blame echo as the team voted that Jaypee would be a better fit as they had that 11 or 12 winstreak.
Probably Yawi’s mood also sort of affected the whole team morale and thus they didn’t get the ticket to M5.
At the very least, even with their moral not being at the top, they still manage to get 3rd place in MPL PH which is already respectable for the whole team!
MPL S11 TO M4 was a good run, pero nung natalo kayo sa MSC,IESF pinalitan nyu kaagad si Yawi. Isipin mo ibangko nyu yung gigil bumawi at maglaro.
For echo this is the lesson, wag kase masydong bloated ang ulo😅, biggest revenge sa inyo yan😅nilalag tlaga ang world champ😅
Yeah. A lesson to kick Jaypee and his wife, who is a manager of Echo
Fire echo coach right away
I feel bad for yawi 😢
feel bad for karl, he's consistent he may lose in early objectives but he'll rarely be behind in exp. he's consistent yawi not so much.
@@ramsesiv5342 Well they did not let yawi play for weeks and he did good for this match, but sadly they played yawi only when theyre losing
Dapat pinilayan nila c sensui tulad ng laro nila sa bren Kung ano² nlng Ang mga nagamit n sensui kase halos banned Ang mga comport utility hero niya kaya ayon na 3-0 pero Ngayon nakipagsabayan sila sa blacklist dihado talaga sila Lalo na Ang mga support heros ni renegay napaka effective tapos may utility hero s pa hirap Yan pabagsakin at napansin kodin Ang Matilda ni renegay Hindi binan na subra gamit na gamit ni renegay
@@ramsesiv5342lol its a sure 3-0 if yawi didnt go in
@@LuminousHDX did good for a match, how many matches did jaypee did well? you noticed? no because you're a big fanboi
We don’t know all the beef behind the why Yawi was benched for a very long time, but it is sad to hear that Benny and Sanford chose Jaypee over Yawi.
Dahil nga nalita na ng kasama nya na d na sya fit team kaya pinalitan sya yan ang tunay na rason tapos fans na toxic mali daw ng coach hahahha kaka yawaga toxic 4 na membro bumuto kay jaype yawi wala ngayun sasabihin nyu nonyawi no m5 toxic d sya maka sabay meta ngayun
Yawi don't wanna play suppor roams and support roams are really in this mete so they prefer Jaypee. By the way, it's not Jaypee's fault. Either Yawi or Jaypee played, black had the advantage on the draft because they prepared so well. Stop blaming anyone when Echo lost. Just blame Blacklist because blacklist played so good 🤭🤣🤣
@@titan.cameraman.57 kung d sya makasabay sa meta tank nya bket ban 3 hero nya nung pagpasok nya? Kaja,chou,franco? wala yan sa meta meta nasa system yan ng team.
Nag botothan sila, ang pag pipilian si Jaypee na asawa ng Manager nila at si YAWI sino sa palagay nyo ang pipiliin nila? kahit anung idahilan may bias talaga yung botohan, MPL S11 ang M4 will only proved na mga walang kwenta yung reason nyo, dahil dominant ang ECHO during those time, Its a management failure to build a strong bond, relationship and camaraderie sa core team nyo, nawala yung synergy ng team dahil na mis manage yung mga bata, isipin nyo kung gaano kalaking impact ang ginawa nila kay YAWI, nawalan ng moral yung bata, dumating din sa isipan ng bata na nag doubt na rin sya sa sarili nya, dahil maayos naman ang performance nya from previous tournament, kahit anung meta or patch pa yang pinag sasabi nyo, mga professional players yan, halos buong buhay nila dyan na nakalaan, willing yan mag adopt sa kung ano ang current meta, hindi lang naman si YAWI ang mag aadjust sa bagong patch lahat ng team. what ECHO did to YAWI was unfair, what they did to him during the playoff was even worst, sana hangang dulo nag Jaypee na lang sila, tutal wala naman silang tiwala na, bakit kailangan nyo pang ipa ramdam yung guilt sa bata.
@@DigonggongDutaesuper true lods
From the moment jaypee plays they always lose.
Attitude problem YAWI kase e...😊
Echo gameplay got nerf nkakamiss yung burst meta nila yung house of highlights sila now with jaypee naging neutral galawan nila sayang M5 ..
Nag babago meto lol kaya nga may patch pana panahon yan boy
@@titan.cameraman.57 d mo b nakita yung laban nila na aggressive parin laro nila sobrang dominating nila vs BL nung nag aadopt sila sa meta na waiting game nwala na laro nila .. para sakin bat kayo mag aadjust sa meta if pwede nmn kayo ang gumwa ng sariling meta
So being a recent champion (m4) does not allow a slot?
also mpl ph s11 champion, and 3rd place in msc. it isn't that bad, msc was an international tournament after all. it wasn't easy, at least they qualify for msc. but with jaypee, they don't even qualify for m5.
No you need to win being a former champion doesn't mean anything in MPL
Well we know echo only because of yawi that creates those miracle and risky pickoffs and which made them the echo express and now they want to be passive, slow and safe just because of scrims stats and blame all the loose into yawi because of their recent loose??? Why? If you loose a match you blame the team as a chad not just the player that was very wrong of the management and the team members
😂 he made miracle to at INDO 😝 FIRST ROUND EXIT 😂
no one's discrediting jaypee for the winstreaks the problem is that the team and management did not particularly solved the problem instead becomes more greedy because of the winstreaks and then your gonna put yawi on a tight spot when echo started losing games come on man you don't do that to him they already declared that they don't trust him did they really think that subbing in yawi will solved the problem are they stupid? Do they really think yawi is a joke to do that as if nothing happens? The players, coaches and the management prioritize the winstreaks over the bond of their team which result to their teams moral being destroy. Showing distrust to your teammates is like putting a knife on his neck
Echo Manager is pure trash like how jaypee play🤣
9:04 THE NATALIA 😭
😆🤣
No matter where we live
She's everywhere
@@BlackRockSubspace real
I told you Hindi mananalo ang echo without yawi
Daming malalakas na nawalan ng Spotlight must imagine magsama si
Yawi Kelra Dlarskie Hadji Demonkite ❤ Omega baka naman hahahaha 😅 wag mag tipid kuhain agac or kausapin tong mga to 😂😂
Deserve ng echo yan matalo pagkatapos nila pakinabangan ibabasura lang karma is real sure ibang team na c yawi next season
Bago kasi mag mpl boy madami silang torna na sinalihan d lng isa o dalawa ang masakit pa don mahihinang team kalaban na talo pa sila at don na pansin ng apat nyang kasama na d na sya fit sa team o d na sya maka sabay kay bumuto sila jaypee or yawi pero pinili nila jaupee kasi nakasama nila at fit sa laro nila...kaya sa mag sasabi kaslanan ng coach o nino pa abay toxic kau d lng sya sabay sa meta ngayun at hero pol mya .pag toxic fans kasi daming reason at sisi ng sisi at kala mp magaling pa sa team o cacoh lahat alam pero toxic lng pla
lol kaja meta? yung rafa meta nanalo nung si jaypee nagamit? chou nagkalat si yawi di nagkakaja? mathilda? tang ina si renejay nga na bugok kaya si yawi pa kaya hahaha
Kasama nla pababa majority vote pa lipat na yawi pag kaishan ka ba nmn ng magasawa di same yan ng rank na kayang magbuhat ng mabigat hahaha 🤣 😅 na karma agad majority vote daw ayan Sama Sama matalo
Only hype casting i have ever heard in mpl ph.
Grabe ka intense kala mo m5 finals
We are all aware tha the vote's will be go to "Daddy" halimbawa isa k sa member's nga team pipiliin mo ba si yawi kesa ky jaypee? Na alam mo na ang manager nyo asawa ni Daddy dba hindi...common sense qt wlng sense yung explaination ni "Moms" at ng coaching staff hindi ako maniniwala feel nmn ntin kng totoo eh.😂😂😂
At hindi mgrereact ng ganito ang mga fans at mga tao kng tunay at tama ang ginawa nila ky yawi..at kng mkita nmn ng mga tao esp. ng fans na hindi na sya effective at ngUnder perform na sa team for sure wla ng masabi pa mga nanunuod dba?😂
Retri problem
Kairi might comeback crying again with this new blacklist lineup 😅
Maybe? Maybe not? Onic ID have already adjusted to the meta though
No, venus will cry 😂😂
@@shadowwalker8845Indogs No Pinoy Import will cry the nightmare of indogs is when coach Yeb and Kairi resign in Onic Indo hahahhahaha
@@MasterYamato-HeartWood yes and Pignoy will suck each other'$ dicck 🤣🤣
0 is waiting BL on Onic INDO
For this series i think Karl is the problem he cant win Retri against Sensui
Karl got all the lord, Echo lost the teamfights after
@@roweljohncarloalindogan4326zoning ng ng exp at vision ng roam ang nagpatalo hahahahha
Yung mga naniniwala sa post ni tictac sa Facebook eh naniniwala din na hindi na mag iimprove si yawi. Basahin nyo yung first comment sa post ni tictac kung medyo nalalabuan kayo.
Ung mukha ni yawi alam nah alam mong my sama ng loob ehh😢😢😢😢
Pinaglaro para masisi hahaha
From what I know and have seen is that, yawi was never there in the 5 men practice…… so, y’all stop saying echo did him bad….
they don't want to play 5 man with him in ranked, from what i know. they always play with jaypee. but people expected him to play well.
@@leagueofbullshit they never said that they didn’t want to play with him….. it was their line up… They even said in the interview after they defeated RSG, they had issues with yawi’s attitude…. Seriously guys? Do some research first and join the convo or debate whatever…
@@johngreggory2638 coz they have a different line up….. understand that sh*t bro!!!
@@johngreggory2638 tell them not me….. Y’all blaming the management while Yawi was the problem for them…. He was a problem for them but for y’all, he’s a God to you and y’all be his cult…. Ugh! Try to understand it atleast
@@Goblok3089bcbc ka all the things your saying is straight up incoherent, literally the reason why Yawi can't play is because they are not including him on the scrim now try to get that through that thick-headed skull of yours instead of screaming "yA'Ll" as if your providing anything constructive.
DI KO ALAM KUNG ANONG PROBLEM NG ECHO IKA NGA NI KARL, PERO OGAG COACHING STAFF NILA. SMH
It would be better if yawi join indo and earn some big dollars, since he achieve almost everything in mpl.
You cant live lavishly if you play in mpl ph all through out the career with low salary of ph cos nobody will ask you what your achievement in job interview related to mlbb.
Plus it will be good for eSports platform only low mentality will say indog pride or pignoy pride.
Indo dollar??😂😂
@@falcon1822 well you can convert indo rupiah into dollars in Central banks of any nation🤪
PINOLITIKA NILA SI YAWI PARA MAKAPASOK ANG ASAWA NG MANAGER NILA, NAPAKA-UNPROFESSIONAL ANG NG MANAGENT NG ECHO.
Oks na yun champ na kesa ipilit si yawa baka ma First round exit 😂
Why no one is talking about the main reason why Yawi is not playing???????
He was caught kissing Sanji in the boot camp while Sanji was asleep.
????
magjabol ka nlng
YOU'RE TOTALLY WRONG, PLAYERS AND COACHES VOTED OUT YAWI FOR A REASON.
THE PROCESS IS FAIR AS MANAGEMENT DECIDED BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF PLAYERS AND COACHES VOTE.
THIS IS LIKE ELECTION, MAJORITY WINS.
HOWEVER, IF VOTES ARE UNANIMOUS THEN CLEARLY YAWI IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF THIS ISSUE.
Stop blaming Yawi for not playing nor Jaypee and his wife. Blame Blacklist because they played so well in the game 🤭🤣🤣
I mean people saying that without VeeWise they won't make it but look at them, not the champion but still a representative. Hadji also didn't played much. This might sound wrong but there is no one to blame for it is a game 100% is not possible as Coach MTB said (if I remembered it right). I watch most of the playoffs games, and every player did their best.
Sanji is overrated, his novaria sucks
overrated novario killed wanwan against rsg and won that fight. mofo you cant play like that stfu.