i noticed how the hybrid system improved the cornering of indycar,even tho indycar's tyres are not even close to f1 grip level is good to see a 1:26 time,back in 2014-2017 these were the times that f1 cars did in monza
The chassis has been reduced in weight, as has a lighter gearbox made of magnesium. All to compensate for the additional weight of the ERS, which is around 43 kg.
@@f1virtualfilms Still much better than any road car hybrid systems because you deploy the system for just maybe 1 corner and under braking it charges for next corner. It's not like F1 where you have deploy for a few laps, then recharges for a few more laps.
2 things to note: First of all looks like you are using the road course aero-spec of the Indycar, IRL the Indycar has two other aero configurations, one for short ovals and other specifically for Indianapolis, the road course aero is a mid to high downforce setting kinda like Melbourne for F1. Also it is not fair that you used the DRS because that only gives the F1 at least 10 km/h advantage on straights, the Indycar it's actually on par with the Japan SuperFormula that those are like 4 seconds faster than an F2
The two types of car are built to very different sets of rules. Go back maybe ten years, and Indycars had considerably higher top speeds than F1. On a typical GP circuit, the F1 car would absolutely blitz the Indycar. But on a banked oval, the F1 car wouldn't stand a chance.
The stats are all totally wrong with the Indycar. The Non-Hybrid weighed around 1900 lbs and with the Hybrid it's 2000 lbs. The Hybrid only supplies ~60 hp and it's usually only for around 8 seconds a lap. The Hybrid car in reality is slower than the Non-Hybrid version due to so much extra weight and very little performance back from the Hybrid, around Monza it's probably around a second slower.
@@f1virtualfilms But he is correct. This season they only have ~60bhp, because it's limited. They plan to have 150bhp for the future. The cars are actually between 1sec faster and 0.5sec slower this season with the hybrid than they were last year. So basically, there is no change - the hybrid power and the added weight neutralize each other.
You've never watched world of outlaws? Late models? Nascar trucks, Xfinity Series nor Nascar itself? Road course isn't a circle yet it still starts and ends at the same point? When kimi raced in Nascar, he wasn't the fastest driver. When Jensen raced, he too wasn't the fastest driver.
You can not compare F1 and IndyCar. F1 is in another league. IndyCar is closer to a F2 car. Monza is even nice to the IndyCar for its long straits. I think the difference on the COTA circuit was 14 seconds !!!.
Disagree on the cart horse thing, but while Indycar has gotten a lot of mileage out of the Dallara chassis, it's time to move on, which they will do soon. I preferred the CART era cars though. Fvck you Tony George for screwing up the Indy 500 and premier American open wheel racing with it.
You're a dummy. F1 cars are the fastest racing cars in motorsport. There are 500 different racing cars in motorsport and IndyCars are the 3rd fastest on the planet, just after Super Formula. IndyCars are so blood fast that they easily beat even the Hypercar monsters.
Too easy to drive but perez is fighting with haas while max is fighting with a fucked up red bull against Ferrari, Merc and McLaren, sure F1 is very easy
i noticed how the hybrid system improved the cornering of indycar,even tho indycar's tyres are not even close to f1 grip level is good to see a 1:26 time,back in 2014-2017 these were the times that f1 cars did in monza
2014 F1 cars at Indianapolis Road Course usually done a lap of 1:24.388.
It would be nice to see the Monza oval restored and having the IndyCar running on it.
It would be very interesting to see that.
Or even either at Red Rock Valley or Test Course.
It's interesting that its suppostly the ERS don't have any wieght
Indycar offset the weight with a bunch of magnesium components and other weight reduction efforts. It still adds a little weight as memory serves.
The chassis has been reduced in weight, as has a lighter gearbox made of magnesium. All to compensate for the additional weight of the ERS, which is around 43 kg.
@@m_cabral Exactly
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Still much better than any road car hybrid systems because you deploy the system for just maybe 1 corner and under braking it charges for next corner. It's not like F1 where you have deploy for a few laps, then recharges for a few more laps.
@@DakkyunIndyCar also has PTP (PUSH TO PASS) that worked the same way like DRS and KERS in F1.
The SF-24 despite has 750kgs+, its still as fast as even 2004 Formula Gran Turismo.
2 things to note:
First of all looks like you are using the road course aero-spec of the Indycar, IRL the Indycar has two other aero configurations, one for short ovals and other specifically for Indianapolis, the road course aero is a mid to high downforce setting kinda like Melbourne for F1.
Also it is not fair that you used the DRS because that only gives the F1 at least 10 km/h advantage on straights, the Indycar it's actually on par with the Japan SuperFormula that those are like 4 seconds faster than an F2
The idea is to know the gap between both cars, without giving an advantage or disadvantage to either car.
The two types of car are built to very different sets of rules.
Go back maybe ten years, and Indycars had considerably higher top speeds than F1. On a typical GP circuit, the F1 car would absolutely blitz the Indycar. But on a banked oval, the F1 car wouldn't stand a chance.
But what if F1 V6 with Formula E electric motor for hybrid system? Isn't that interesting 🤔 800 HP F1 engine and 400 HP electric motor
That's f1 in 2026
@@FullMoonShines but F1 2026 is 50/50 power between hybrid and V6 engine
I don't understand, why the road course version of the Indycar has a top speed of only 300 km/h.
We would have seen a V12 F1 vs V8 Indycar race if Bernie ecclestone doesn't rejected a race from Indycar organization because it "too dangerous"
The stats are all totally wrong with the Indycar. The Non-Hybrid weighed around 1900 lbs and with the Hybrid it's 2000 lbs. The Hybrid only supplies ~60 hp and it's usually only for around 8 seconds a lap. The Hybrid car in reality is slower than the Non-Hybrid version due to so much extra weight and very little performance back from the Hybrid, around Monza it's probably around a second slower.
That's not what it says on the official Indycar website.
@@f1virtualfilms But he is correct. This season they only have ~60bhp, because it's limited. They plan to have 150bhp for the future. The cars are actually between 1sec faster and 0.5sec slower this season with the hybrid than they were last year. So basically, there is no change - the hybrid power and the added weight neutralize each other.
The Indy car had no chance because the f1 car has more downforce, horsepower and top speed.
edit: damn I didn’t mean to start a war
Clearly. But at Indy, the F1 would be slower on top speed and lap time. On a road course F1 cars beat everything. Horses for courses.
@@typhoon-7 well going in circle in an oval ain't racing
@@teddux OK. So you know nothing about motorsports, good to know.
@@typhoon-7 thank you big mac eater
You've never watched world of outlaws? Late models? Nascar trucks, Xfinity Series nor Nascar itself? Road course isn't a circle yet it still starts and ends at the same point? When kimi raced in Nascar, he wasn't the fastest driver. When Jensen raced, he too wasn't the fastest driver.
The real time of Leclerc in Monza this year IS 1' 19" 4
Indy car vs non hybrid F1 please
Noted. Thanks for the suggestion.
You can not compare F1 and IndyCar. F1 is in another league. IndyCar is closer to a F2 car. Monza is even nice to the IndyCar for its long straits. I think the difference on the COTA circuit was 14 seconds !!!.
But on an oval track, F1 loses.
Superspeedway yes, fast ovals indifferent, slow ovals not, easy win for F1.
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Let's be honest, an F1 car is a racing thoroughbred, the Indycar is a cart horse in comparison - even in real life
Disagree on the cart horse thing, but while Indycar has gotten a lot of mileage out of the Dallara chassis, it's time to move on, which they will do soon. I preferred the CART era cars though. Fvck you Tony George for screwing up the Indy 500 and premier American open wheel racing with it.
You're a dummy. F1 cars are the fastest racing cars in motorsport. There are 500 different racing cars in motorsport and IndyCars are the 3rd fastest on the planet, just after Super Formula. IndyCars are so blood fast that they easily beat even the Hypercar monsters.
F1 cars are ugly af and too easy to drive compared to previous F1 cars (where driver skill mattered).
Too easy to drive but perez is fighting with haas while max is fighting with a fucked up red bull against Ferrari, Merc and McLaren, sure F1 is very easy
Perez drives good with an understeery car, red bull is more geared to oversteer.
Also I'm pretty sure he's saying newer f1 cars are easier than older ones, all motorsports are still hard to drive
A lot of old f1 cars are ugly to me, i actually prefer this generation in looks over the 2000s models