How Gillian Flynn Created Amy Dunne for Gone Girl
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- Author Gillian Flynn created Amy Dunne in her novel Gone Girl, but she also wrote the screen adaptation for Director David Fincher. The film stars Rosamund Pike and Ben Affleck.
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Gone Girl always seemed more like a cautionary tale to me, about what happens if you never stop trying to pretend to be someone your not to fit in.
Exactly!
My comment on the main thread is:
Gillian Flynn is obviously a talented writer who crafted a compelling story--but marriage is only "a long con" where each person "puts their best self forward" and then "falls for that facade" if you're that sort of person. Usually it is in fact narcissists who do this. They lure people into relationships by creating a very false self. An idealized version of themself. What the other person seems to want and need.
Being a con artist is in some ways synonymous with being a pathological narcissist. Like Flynn's protagonist--the wanton murderer Amy Dunne.
I actually go out of my way to be my most authentic self, including the sides of myself that might be a little hard to take, in the courtship process. Because I don't want to end up in a relationship where I have to be someone *I'm not.*
Sometimes I **am** a "cool girl," genuinely. Sometimes I'm high maintenance. Or fragile. I'm more opinionated in intimate relationships than I am with friends because that's my truer, intimate self.
I make sure that anybody who claims to love me has ample opportunity to know who I really am. Otherwise it's *not really me that they love*...
VLP--Sadly most of the men I've loved were none the less too self centered to get to know me deeply.
In love relationships I've learned the hard way that we have to learn to see the signs of a narcissistic personality profile and run like hell in the other direction, which is hard to do because they are charming and they know just how to give us what they intuit we want.
I see Gone Girl as a satire on marriage, more specifically how we up and meet someone one day and we get a sense of what our significant other wants in a persona and continue with it despite the fact that it’s detrimental and hypocritical of our own character. The more we cater to that false sense of self, the more we create a toxic relationship ship with no way out. Younger people are very guilty of this; I’m one of them.
“Marriage as a long con” is a very interesting concept
Like long non con?? What's con here?
@@nehakiran525 a "con" or "con job" refers to a process of deceiving another person for one's own gain, often with the goal of getting money from them. A "con man" is a person who specializes in such a process of deceit perpetrated on strangers to fool them into giving him money. "Con man" means "confidence man" as that individual tries to gain someone's confidence in hopes of fooling the person and persuading them to give up money on the basis of an unusual story which is not true.
Any human relationship can be deceitful or may be viewed as deceitful. There are no definite facts in the realm of human behavior and motivation.
hearing that one sentence terrified me.
When he whispers "you bitch" I lost it. Such an amazingly simple yet complicated scene.
Wow “unreliable narrators” absolutely genius
New creative challenge: Narrators who straight up lie to the audience.
@@DomCOuano it is not new. Agatha Christie did that.
@@AlisaM-L yes that's right! I'm unreliable lol
This story had one of the most interesting, original plots and characters I had ever seen. I truly did not know where the story was going. Apparently, this book and its movie adaption have already become legendary and highly influential.
One of the best modern writers
If you've seen Sharp objects, you can tell she hates small town people lol
I bought the book and then watch the series before reading it and now I can’t bring myself to read it, the series was soooo f’d up!!
She comes from a small town herself, she knows how people can be when everyone knows each other, gossip etc...
I love Sharp Objects. Probably my favorite miniseries of all time.
@@pinkyhc4130 same here.
When you’re an artsy kid in a dead end hick town, you’d hate small town folks too
That Dora the Explorer story is hilarious 😂
Love 💕 this movie. Rosamund Pike she’s the best actor❤️❤️💚💛🧡💜💓💞💕
Great stuff, thanks for the video
Great video~‼️
Well done!
Wow I love that I saw this
Gillian Flynn said she loves that "feeling of unease you get", but I personally don't like feelings of unease in a movie. I keep being afraid something bad will happen!
But that means it’s doing a great job at making you feel something. Which in turn should get you thinking. That means the films will stay with you
@@A-G-A-G Yes, that's true. But for each person there are some things we remember as pleasure and some we remember as pain. I guess the pain is more memorable, but... ever since my daughter died (age 25) I cannot tolerate the fear of a sad or painful outcome. I'm a different person since (as I experience it) she was taken away.
@@RalphDratman sorry to hear that. I understand now, thanks for the perspective
@@A-G-A-G Thanks for your reply. I used to want to experience every feeling that a film, play or novel could create. I guess I always felt safe and protected. When my girl died I realized nothing could protect a person completely. It's like the person who is raped not being able to feel safe again -- unfortunately, at that point she knows that safety is really only temporary and conditional. So how does a person ever get enough sense of safety to do things again? Time makes it possible, but nothing is going to be quite the way it was before. So now I can't watch certain movies or TV shows. That's it.
@@RalphDratman I know exactly how you feel dude. It gets easier.
9:25 Again (see my previous comment) the stuff we show to others through social media is only an exaggerated version of our successes and happiness if we choose to do that. A lot of people prefer to do what some of us call "real Facebook" (probably there are similar ways of behaving on Instagram or whatever). I post what's really going on in my life. I think I do my friends no service by pretending that I'm always happy and successful.
On the contrary, I try to be modest about my successes in my social media posts, and I turn to my social media friends for solidarity and support when really bad things happen in my life. I feel like if I open up about things that people don't usually talk about in public, I'm helping to create an atmosphere where we can all be more honest and open with each other about the dysfunctions and difficulties we all deal with and our families and personal lives. So it's a matter of how authentic a person chooses to be.
True narcissists like Amy Dunne and narcissistic people like the husband in the movie--they choose not to be authentic and probably don't even know how to be, so they get their false lives through their choices, though in a way they're not entirely to blame because they are doing what they have learned to do.
(Though Dunne's behavior is straight up evil. People tend to forget that she killed her patsy ex boyfriend in cold blood!!)
People tend to think of narcissists as evil and they can do *very evil things,* but fundamentally it is a mental illness. There's not much free will involved I suspect.
People who are willing to see this problem in themselves can recover. (They are rare. I've known only one narcissistic person who realized he was ruining his life and decided to change.) But virtually all narcissists, like Amy Dunne, never see that they have a problem and therefore they never improve.
They just wreak havoc and destruction on the people around them.
I just noticed the chin covering thing also looks like hes shooting himself. maybe that means something.
Amy Dunn a villain no doubt but genius not quite Moriarty but close.
One might even say she is ’amazing.....Amy’
To me book Amy was way scarier than the movie version.
Especially framing a school friend by throwing herself down a flight of stairs.
Haven’t read the book but I just believe anyone can be more evil than movie Amy
This view of marriage is apparently too pervasive. I don't con nobody unless I'm fooling myself prior to this person. I just release myself as time goes without projecting anything to replace the parts yet to be revealed. I'm too lazy to do all that work plus you know it couldn't work so why start? I eventually will start releasing things to see if the person will be turned off. I want someone to actually know me to love me and visa versa. I enjoyed the movie but I have known to many people like the husband and a few like the wife. I think they are best suited for each other because if the husband survives and is halfway smart that experience will make him less like his worse parts by the end just to avoid being like her.
A man always gets the wife he deserves!
Not ripping the film, but I really wanted the female detective to catch her in a mistake.
She did! Towards the end she was questioning her in hospital. But she was taken off the case
There is quite a bit of product placement in Gone Girl. I couldn't help but notice.
That makes sense. She did not like nick. Her background in entertainment wroting also explains alot.
Casting well, was the icing on the cake.
Nick was an absent character.
These, among Rosamond Pike's performance have a one sided appeal.
I like listening to the author talk, but the female actress is heavily projecting she’s like “faking” or “an illusion”. The male lead looks so much like Peterson that it’s creepy. And the fact that so many women are killed by men they are in relationships with is staggering (and yet rarely discussed or portrayed in Hollywood). I don’t like them. The idea of comparing things to an episode of this or that is very American Psycho as well...the concept of a detached reality and/or inability to perceive it accurately; not feeling things in the moment, potentially not actually feeling anything at all. THE DIRECTOR thinking that way is due to her CREATIVE TALENT, which makes a giant difference in a husband doing that.
Women so rarely actually “disappear” that it’s important to find the cases where they did to gain a better understanding of why they MIGHT do such a thing. It’s not that easy of a thing to do, if you’re going to continue to lead a normal life in the real world (as opposed to being held hostage etc), and women are particularly (by case studies) driven by children and/or attachments to other people like family & friends. Again, making them even less likely to “disappear” as grown people.
....you think Ben Affleck looks like Jordan Peterson?
They liar on screen
Gillian Flynn is obviously a talented writer who crafted a compelling story--but marriage is only "a long con" where each person "puts their best self forward" and then "falls for that facade" if you're that sort of person. Usually it is in fact narcissists who do this. They lure people into relationships by creating a very false self. An idealized version of themself. What the other person seems to want and need.
Being a con artist is in some ways synonymous with being a pathological narcissist. Like Flynn's protagonist--the wanton murderer Amy Dunne.
I actually go out of my way to be my most authentic self, including the sides of myself that might be a little hard to take, in the courtship process. Because I don't want to end up in a relationship where I have to be someone *I'm not.*
Sometimes I **am** a "cool girl," genuinely. Sometimes I'm high maintenance. Or fragile. I'm more opinionated in intimate relationships than I am with friends because that's my truer, intimate self.
I make sure that anybody who claims to love me has ample opportunity to know who I really am. Otherwise it's *not really me that they love*...
Sadly most of the men I've loved were none the less too self centered to get to know me deeply.
In love relationships I've learned the hard way that we have to learn to see the signs of a narcissistic personality profile and run like hell in the other direction, which is hard to do because they are charming and they know just how to give us what they intuit we want.
I have always been incredibly honest in my relationships too. I got married later than most of my friends, but I also ended up with a great guy who suits me very well. Honesty is always the best policy.
spoiler alert! lol.
Dk - got herself a bullet-point list of psychopathic traits & got cracking?
Think to women she is not that evil....
This movie should be called ''American Psyko 2''
or ''How to not do police work'', FBI in this movie are so misrepresented and made stupid that it's almost comic. In reality the psyko girl left so many evidence and so many dumb mistakes she would have landed in prison within hours.
Amber Heard
Exactly.
Hollywood, stop hiring British/Aussie actresses. There are American actresses.
AfflecK and JLo married, two ego maniacs.
thankyou for the annoying music overlay for 14 minutes- i ended up fast forwarding and realising it never lets up- learn to produce a video and try again.
I kind of agree with you, I'd have liked the music no to be so strong. However, you have no reason to be SO rude, providing feedback is crucial for creators but your comment is just negativity.
@@herediaee sorry I hope you get over your sensitivity over an Internet TH-cam post...see a Dr
@@ardie72 Lol, thank you.
At the end of the day, the only one that will have to deal with your awful attitude all the time is you. :)
@@herediaee the difference being, is that I enjoy my attitude...you in the other hand hate it...I'm glad I had a negative impact on your day...ciao ciao!!
It's hard to put yourself out there and make something. You don't have to be mean just because you don't like it.