Did some research on natural cycles when they had the first round of influencers doing a lot of paid advertising and the main takeaway is it’s a good option if you wouldn’t be unhappy with getting pregnant. My dad (54) has an unplanned 3 year old and two 1 year old twins. They were using natural cycles as a hormone free option 😅 I also don’t know if ethically it’s ok to pay influencers for medical related products - it doesn’t feel very responsible (feedback directed at them as a company, not the influencers)
I used natural cycles BY THE BOOK like, spot on, exactly correctly, because i didnt want to be on hormonal contraception anymore. I just celebrated my 1 year olds first birthday 🙃 can confirm: i was using NC as contaception 😂 wouldnt change it for the world, Juniper is the best thing ever to happen to me, but i think people need to be aware that you can be very careful and use it correctly and still end up pregnant. And I know that's the case with the pill, but I was hit and miss with the pill for 10 years with no pregnancy scares, 1 year with condoms without pregnancy scares, and a few months into NC was pregnant.
I’ve had not one but TWO friends now get accidentally pregnant from natural cycles. I also spoke to my gp about it when i came off the pill and the nurse said she would only recommend it when used alongside a method of birth control such as the coil, condoms, the pill etc. Just a PSA…
Natural cycles only makes sense if you are OKAY with getting pregnant, which is why most doctors don't recommend it. A better non-hormonal contraception is the copper coil (i don't know what y'all call it in UK). However it can cause heavier bleeding when on your period as well as worse cramps. Otherwise it's good old condoms.
On another note, I think you should add some information on using natural cycles as a backup to using condoms as well, I don't think that using this method as a standalone contraceptive is enough especially for people going through hormonal changes f.ex. weight fluctuations, high stress levels etc. I think it is a great way to get to know better your own body but as a contraceptive method, not so sure
Hey, I had a friend accidentally get pregnant using this method and she was very careful to use it correctly so just something to consider. Obviously no method of contraception is 100% but most people I've spoken who use/want to use this method have it as like a back up and then they also use a condom. You might be doing this obviously I don't know but it was very traumatic for my friend so just thought I'd give the general advice to anyone reading
Slightly judging her for doing an ad for something that is so risky and could lead to life changing circumstances in people's relationships. Thank you for your disclaimer and I hope people do read your comment before following her ad!
I have used Natural Cycle for years and really like it. But I would recommend it more for people trying to get pregnant/learn about their fertile period. If you are trying to avoid pregnancy, I would still recommend a double method (natural cycles + condom or something else). Also, because it’s pretty sensitive: if you don’t sleep well, if you’re hangover or if you don’t measure at the exact same window of time every day, it won’t be precise. For the hustle, I think it’s better if you’re putting the work towards getting pregnant. I think it’s a great brand/product, it just need a bit a disclaimer. I hope it helps.
@@doctordonnanoble I don't really appreciate this comment tbh. She didn't make the decision alone, her partner made it as well, and I don't feel okay with the idea of judging her for what she was under the impression was a very safe method of contraception. What she went through after she found out she was pregnant was very traumatic and she would never have done something she thought would lead her to that. Even if she was being reckless, which I don't believe, we've known each other since we were 7, I would never place judgement on her because I have nothing but respect and admiration for the strength she's shown.
@@duck6100 I think we are looking at the ad from different perspectives. Absolutely no judgement from me for her choosing this method of birth control, it is her life and I really appreciate that she shares her life so candidly with us viewers. What I have an issue with is the monetary gain for this advertisement, she's getting paid a substantial amount of money from the company to recommend the app to her viewers, and unlike an ad for a VPN or a product you don't need but won't harm you, this could directly hurt the viewers who trust her completely. Getting pregnant unintentionally is terrifying and will change your entire life. So yes, I slightly judge her for choosing to make monetary gains from something that could unintentionally hurt - really hurt- those who trust her recommendations. Again, I support her in her life and her choices, however in this case she is making money recommending it to us - and that makes it different. That is why I have slight issues with this ad. I'm really glad that your comment is the highest upvoted, in hopes that people who are considering the app as their form of birth control can see the warning, so they can make an informed decision.
This is why I don’t switch. I’m not in any way shape or form ready for a child, and this method does not seem secure enough for my own ease of mind. 🤷🏽♀️
For the green silk dress, I would add a nude fabric underneath the bust to cover up a bit more to avoid anything showing but then you can still see and keep the design as is!
I love the graphic tee on you! I don’t know if it’s just because it falls a bit outside of your usual style but it really stood out to me. Would love to see how you style it!
Genuine fertility awareness method is one of the most effective contraceptive choices. The problem is the perfect use versus average use statistics. It’s roughly 99.5% vs 72%. It’s highly dependant on the individual and the consistency they show to check cervical mucus, temperature, and other signs like cervical position every day, plus how much research they’ve done into it. Natural cycles isn’t as comprehensive and thus has more room to fail. It’s still a great way to introduce people to their bodily cues and would work great for folks who aren’t deadset against getting pregnant.
It's important to factor in both the labour of checking your signs every day, alongside what your health and lifestyle is like, for some women it will be more reliable than others
I haven't used a specific app or anything, but I track my cycle in this way (I have a very predictable cycle) and I have found a lot of success using this method. It also is useful for when you ARE trying to get pregnant! I've had 2 babies and married 5 years and it has worked for us, both preventing and getting pregnant. But you gotta keep track of things for sure! Not for everyone but I am a fan.
I hated being on the pill. I've been on Nuvaring for over a decade now and it has been life changing. I used to not be able to leave my house for the first two days of my period and now I haven't had a period for at least 9 years. It feels wonderful to be this free ❤
Wait I literally went in that y2k shop today, saw a cute slip, then put it back and walked straight out as soon as I saw the price tag haha. The fit of the dress is so stunning on you, hope you can find a way to make it longer!
take it to the tailor, crop it till it's top length and you could use the material you chopped off to add triangular panels just behind the lacy border on the cups so it feels a bit less revealing (if you want it less revealing) :) and then if there's more material left, make a matching scrunchie !
I’d recommend Chiswick/Turnham Green for an excellent charity shop day, lots of shops close together by Turnham Green station & usually well curated. Also bonus is lots of nice coffee shops & a different market every week on a Sunday!
Hiya - a friend’s girlfriend recently got pregnant recently and had to have an abortion, and they were using this method. Whether they were using Natural Cycles or not, I don’t know. But it’s something to be aware of, that it might not be on the dot completely, and if in doubt, use a condom. Not to be annoying, I swear. Just that the experience was painful for them, and this method, Whilst being hormone-free (love that for u btw) it’s not 100000% safe. Xx
Hey! Thank you for sending this, and I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. I'm taking as many precautions as I can -- I've been advised to track my discharge and other fertility indicators in the app, and to use condoms for the first three months of tracking. I'm also lucky to have a regular cycle, which makes things slightly more predictable! Again, so sorry to hear about your friend and thank you for sharing her story xx
It’s totally okay, I’m glad you shared this story as it’s important for people to hear! I want anyone who tries natural cycles off the back of this video to go in with as much information as possible to make sure it’s right for them x
the CDC has information about the effectiveness of different contraceptives when used correctly and fertility awareness based methods resulted in 24% of women becoming pregnant within the first year of use. it’s similar to withdrawal which is around 22% whereas the pill is 9% and an IUD is 0.2% or 0.8% depending on the type. BC is a very individual choice and it’s good to take effectiveness into consideration when choosing what’s right for you :)
I’m glad you had some luck in the end! I have really got into charity shops in my 20’s, but can easily go into 3 or 4 and find zilch. Normally it’s Oxfam that is the 🌟 for me. I got an Italian linen shirt for my dad’s Father’s Day present and it was only £4.99. When some shops are charging that amount for a supermarket version , I do feel like the effort is worth it! Re your slip dress at the end- seeing as it fits your proportions perfectly, I would stay with the ‘dress’. x
I always have luck with the charity shops in Lewisham, West Wickham and there’s an “everything £5 or less” Cancer Research shop in Mitcham, which is SUPER South London but always worth a look for a cheeky steal!
Lucy you are really clever person but come on…. This natural cycles thing is really not wise!!! Totally fair for you to use it yourself, but maybe it shouldn’t be an ad and you can just keep it to yourself? While you do preface it as not being right for everyone, young impressionable viewers might think that this is a good idea and then wind up pregnant. I don’t think I have ever commented on a video before but sorry this is just completely bonkers.
East london charity shop recommendation is the charity shops in Wanstead (near to Leyton, South Woodford area) we have the best charity shops and I always find stuff!
Really keen on using Natural cycles but unfortunately doesnt fit my current life (10 months post-partum, still breastfeeding with no period), so have opted for the mini Pill (progesterone only), and has been working for me 👍
The same people who do Retrouve Vintage have another vintage shop on Wilton Way, just north of London Fields! There's also some lovely cafe's on that street :)
Wear a nippie with the silk top / dress - super cheap and a very easy fix. I wear them all the time during summer, underneath all things see-through, with cut outs, covered in lace etc. :)
Sheesh, London is expensive! Having lived in the North my whole life I'm not sure I could adjust to the enormous expense shift if I lived down there 😅 That aside, girl you look great and are cute as a button - I love watching your videos! The green slip is a keeper!
dalston is pretty good for charity shops! lots pretty near each other and not too spenny either! can't stand any of the vintage shops on brick lane bc they are wildly overpriced!
It's not for everyone, and there are obvious risks that come with it, but I have been married for 7 years and used natural cycle tracking throughout my whole marriage and never got pregnant until last year, when my husband and I decided to try for a baby and I got pregnant right away. I'm now 4 weeks away from giving birth.
I had to come off the pills 3 years ago (after 5 years). I knew about natural contractions at the time but I’m so anxious about getting pregnant, I could never. It seems like a lot of work, and remembering to take the pill already was too much for me ! I went for the copper coil which is the best option for me. I didn’t have heavy or painful period before and I found a gentle obgyn for the insertion. I needed a method where I would have nothing to remember, ut I know not everyone can be on non hormonal coil ! It’s a journey !
Noooo keep the dress as a dress - it would look so nice with a wide lace under layer to make it a bit longer. The way it fits your figure like a glove is insane, you can't just cut it pleeeease 😅
I used natural cycles as a successful contraceptive for 2 years and then within 6 weeks of switching to "planning pregnancy" mode I got pregnant with my son. It has had a really positive impact on my life!
Loving the thrifting content but please be careful about promoting apps like Natural Cycles as an alternative to birth control because they are very much not 😞 they’ve had ads banned in the UK for false claims, and there’s a growing far right movement against hormonal birth control that’s worth keeping an eye on. Really like your content but this is a huge red flag for me!
A perfect use of 99% is ten times worse than other methods like the implant (in the arm) which has a 99.9% use. With NC, 1/100 users can expect to get pregnant each year. With the implant, 1/1000 can expect to get pregnant in a year. The perfect use rates of NC come from a study on their existing app users, not a randomised population trial. This means that they have already to a degree self-selected a type of person who felt they have a regular cycle, can wake up at the same time each day, not lose their phone, and keep track of their discharge in addition etc. Not everyone suits regularly taking the pill and typical use reflects that. I had to stop the pill because my IBS was bad enough that I wasn't absorbing it multiple days a month for example. Basal temperature is impacted by having had a glass of wine the night before, coming down with a cold, and stress. I really support anyone who wants to get to know their cycle better but please use condoms as well, I know two people who got pregnant using natural cycles 😬 Doctors are told not to recommend NC (by NC!) if the patient would be distressed if they became pregnant in the next year. I think that question should be flagged up for every potential user before they pay.
Did some research on natural cycles when they had the first round of influencers doing a lot of paid advertising and the main takeaway is it’s a good option if you wouldn’t be unhappy with getting pregnant. My dad (54) has an unplanned 3 year old and two 1 year old twins. They were using natural cycles as a hormone free option 😅 I also don’t know if ethically it’s ok to pay influencers for medical related products - it doesn’t feel very responsible (feedback directed at them as a company, not the influencers)
I used natural cycles BY THE BOOK like, spot on, exactly correctly, because i didnt want to be on hormonal contraception anymore. I just celebrated my 1 year olds first birthday 🙃 can confirm: i was using NC as contaception 😂 wouldnt change it for the world, Juniper is the best thing ever to happen to me, but i think people need to be aware that you can be very careful and use it correctly and still end up pregnant. And I know that's the case with the pill, but I was hit and miss with the pill for 10 years with no pregnancy scares, 1 year with condoms without pregnancy scares, and a few months into NC was pregnant.
I’ve had not one but TWO friends now get accidentally pregnant from natural cycles. I also spoke to my gp about it when i came off the pill and the nurse said she would only recommend it when used alongside a method of birth control such as the coil, condoms, the pill etc.
Just a PSA…
Natural cycles only makes sense if you are OKAY with getting pregnant, which is why most doctors don't recommend it.
A better non-hormonal contraception is the copper coil (i don't know what y'all call it in UK). However it can cause heavier bleeding when on your period as well as worse cramps. Otherwise it's good old condoms.
*copper coil, maybe this was a typo? Copper as in the metal. But agreed, this seems a risky thing to promote…
On another note, I think you should add some information on using natural cycles as a backup to using condoms as well, I don't think that using this method as a standalone contraceptive is enough especially for people going through hormonal changes f.ex. weight fluctuations, high stress levels etc. I think it is a great way to get to know better your own body but as a contraceptive method, not so sure
Hey, I had a friend accidentally get pregnant using this method and she was very careful to use it correctly so just something to consider. Obviously no method of contraception is 100% but most people I've spoken who use/want to use this method have it as like a back up and then they also use a condom. You might be doing this obviously I don't know but it was very traumatic for my friend so just thought I'd give the general advice to anyone reading
Slightly judging her for doing an ad for something that is so risky and could lead to life changing circumstances in people's relationships. Thank you for your disclaimer and I hope people do read your comment before following her ad!
I have used Natural Cycle for years and really like it. But I would recommend it more for people trying to get pregnant/learn about their fertile period. If you are trying to avoid pregnancy, I would still recommend a double method (natural cycles + condom or something else). Also, because it’s pretty sensitive: if you don’t sleep well, if you’re hangover or if you don’t measure at the exact same window of time every day, it won’t be precise. For the hustle, I think it’s better if you’re putting the work towards getting pregnant. I think it’s a great brand/product, it just need a bit a disclaimer. I hope it helps.
@@doctordonnanoble I don't really appreciate this comment tbh. She didn't make the decision alone, her partner made it as well, and I don't feel okay with the idea of judging her for what she was under the impression was a very safe method of contraception. What she went through after she found out she was pregnant was very traumatic and she would never have done something she thought would lead her to that. Even if she was being reckless, which I don't believe, we've known each other since we were 7, I would never place judgement on her because I have nothing but respect and admiration for the strength she's shown.
@@duck6100 I think we are looking at the ad from different perspectives. Absolutely no judgement from me for her choosing this method of birth control, it is her life and I really appreciate that she shares her life so candidly with us viewers.
What I have an issue with is the monetary gain for this advertisement, she's getting paid a substantial amount of money from the company to recommend the app to her viewers, and unlike an ad for a VPN or a product you don't need but won't harm you, this could directly hurt the viewers who trust her completely. Getting pregnant unintentionally is terrifying and will change your entire life. So yes, I slightly judge her for choosing to make monetary gains from something that could unintentionally hurt - really hurt- those who trust her recommendations.
Again, I support her in her life and her choices, however in this case she is making money recommending it to us - and that makes it different. That is why I have slight issues with this ad. I'm really glad that your comment is the highest upvoted, in hopes that people who are considering the app as their form of birth control can see the warning, so they can make an informed decision.
This is why I don’t switch. I’m not in any way shape or form ready for a child, and this method does not seem secure enough for my own ease of mind. 🤷🏽♀️
For the green silk dress, I would add a nude fabric underneath the bust to cover up a bit more to avoid anything showing but then you can still see and keep the design as is!
Keep it as a dress, fits like a dream!
If you crop the slip dress you can use the fabric you cut off and put it behind the see trough piece. ❤
I love the graphic tee on you! I don’t know if it’s just because it falls a bit outside of your usual style but it really stood out to me. Would love to see how you style it!
yis more fashion content pls, and keep us updated on natural cycles, I’ve been thinking about trying it
Genuine fertility awareness method is one of the most effective contraceptive choices. The problem is the perfect use versus average use statistics. It’s roughly 99.5% vs 72%. It’s highly dependant on the individual and the consistency they show to check cervical mucus, temperature, and other signs like cervical position every day, plus how much research they’ve done into it.
Natural cycles isn’t as comprehensive and thus has more room to fail. It’s still a great way to introduce people to their bodily cues and would work great for folks who aren’t deadset against getting pregnant.
It's important to factor in both the labour of checking your signs every day, alongside what your health and lifestyle is like, for some women it will be more reliable than others
I haven't used a specific app or anything, but I track my cycle in this way (I have a very predictable cycle) and I have found a lot of success using this method. It also is useful for when you ARE trying to get pregnant! I've had 2 babies and married 5 years and it has worked for us, both preventing and getting pregnant. But you gotta keep track of things for sure! Not for everyone but I am a fan.
Love what you picked up. I prefer the slip dress as a tucked in top. It looks fantastic on you ❤
I hated being on the pill. I've been on Nuvaring for over a decade now and it has been life changing. I used to not be able to leave my house for the first two days of my period and now I haven't had a period for at least 9 years. It feels wonderful to be this free ❤
Wait I literally went in that y2k shop today, saw a cute slip, then put it back and walked straight out as soon as I saw the price tag haha. The fit of the dress is so stunning on you, hope you can find a way to make it longer!
take it to the tailor, crop it till it's top length and you could use the material you chopped off to add triangular panels just behind the lacy border on the cups so it feels a bit less revealing (if you want it less revealing) :) and then if there's more material left, make a matching scrunchie !
that's so smart! I think using some of the fabric to make a wide silky headband could be really fun too
I’d recommend Chiswick/Turnham Green for an excellent charity shop day, lots of shops close together by Turnham Green station & usually well curated. Also bonus is lots of nice coffee shops & a different market every week on a Sunday!
Hiya - a friend’s girlfriend recently got pregnant recently and had to have an abortion, and they were using this method. Whether they were using Natural Cycles or not, I don’t know. But it’s something to be aware of, that it might not be on the dot completely, and if in doubt, use a condom. Not to be annoying, I swear. Just that the experience was painful for them, and this method, Whilst being hormone-free (love that for u btw) it’s not 100000% safe. Xx
Hey! Thank you for sending this, and I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. I'm taking as many precautions as I can -- I've been advised to track my discharge and other fertility indicators in the app, and to use condoms for the first three months of tracking. I'm also lucky to have a regular cycle, which makes things slightly more predictable! Again, so sorry to hear about your friend and thank you for sharing her story xx
@@lucymoon ah, see, I didn’t have all the information, sorry. Never meant to gatekeep. Sometimes you’re too quick to react! xx
It’s totally okay, I’m glad you shared this story as it’s important for people to hear! I want anyone who tries natural cycles off the back of this video to go in with as much information as possible to make sure it’s right for them x
Good morning lucy Moon
the CDC has information about the effectiveness of different contraceptives when used correctly and fertility awareness based methods resulted in 24% of women becoming pregnant within the first year of use. it’s similar to withdrawal which is around 22% whereas the pill is 9% and an IUD is 0.2% or 0.8% depending on the type. BC is a very individual choice and it’s good to take effectiveness into consideration when choosing what’s right for you :)
I would love more of these London vlogs!!!!
11:06 love it tucked in
That slip would make such a cute top and headscarf combo (make a headscarf using the extra fabric)
The cardigan is so cute!
I’m glad you had some luck in the end! I have really got into charity shops in my 20’s, but can easily go into 3 or 4 and find zilch. Normally it’s Oxfam that is the 🌟 for me. I got an Italian linen shirt for my dad’s Father’s Day present and it was only £4.99. When some shops are charging that amount for a supermarket version , I do feel like the effort is worth it! Re your slip dress at the end- seeing as it fits your proportions perfectly, I would stay with the ‘dress’. x
I always have luck with the charity shops in Lewisham, West Wickham and there’s an “everything £5 or less” Cancer Research shop in Mitcham, which is SUPER South London but always worth a look for a cheeky steal!
so calming 💕
Lucy you are really clever person but come on…. This natural cycles thing is really not wise!!! Totally fair for you to use it yourself, but maybe it shouldn’t be an ad and you can just keep it to yourself? While you do preface it as not being right for everyone, young impressionable viewers might think that this is a good idea and then wind up pregnant. I don’t think I have ever commented on a video before but sorry this is just completely bonkers.
Glad it’s not just me, was super surprised to see Lucy take the ad!
East london charity shop recommendation is the charity shops in Wanstead (near to Leyton, South Woodford area) we have the best charity shops and I always find stuff!
Really keen on using Natural cycles but unfortunately doesnt fit my current life (10 months post-partum, still breastfeeding with no period), so have opted for the mini Pill (progesterone only), and has been working for me 👍
The same people who do Retrouve Vintage have another vintage shop on Wilton Way, just north of London Fields! There's also some lovely cafe's on that street :)
Loved this video Lucy
Wear a nippie with the silk top / dress - super cheap and a very easy fix. I wear them all the time during summer, underneath all things see-through, with cut outs, covered in lace etc. :)
Sheesh, London is expensive! Having lived in the North my whole life I'm not sure I could adjust to the enormous expense shift if I lived down there 😅 That aside, girl you look great and are cute as a button - I love watching your videos! The green slip is a keeper!
Next destination will be Ldn!! love it ❤🔥 just been to Montenegro, more affordable but super beautiful as well
team crop it, definitely
dalston is pretty good for charity shops! lots pretty near each other and not too spenny either! can't stand any of the vintage shops on brick lane bc they are wildly overpriced!
Northcote Road in Clapham Junction has so many amazing charity shops!
Where is your green top from? Love the outfit
I think the short skirt looked good!! 😅
Me with my 4.5 year old, single mum after using NC: 👀
It's not for everyone, and there are obvious risks that come with it, but I have been married for 7 years and used natural cycle tracking throughout my whole marriage and never got pregnant until last year, when my husband and I decided to try for a baby and I got pregnant right away. I'm now 4 weeks away from giving birth.
Do not like the idea of putting this data in to an app
Add a lace layer to the dress and elongate it
Wide lace on the bottom if you want to keep it as a dress.
Which Salomons are these?
st john's wood high street for charity shops alwaaaays
I had to come off the pills 3 years ago (after 5 years). I knew about natural contractions at the time but I’m so anxious about getting pregnant, I could never. It seems like a lot of work, and remembering to take the pill already was too much for me ! I went for the copper coil which is the best option for me. I didn’t have heavy or painful period before and I found a gentle obgyn for the insertion. I needed a method where I would have nothing to remember, ut I know not everyone can be on non hormonal coil ! It’s a journey !
Noooo keep the dress as a dress - it would look so nice with a wide lace under layer to make it a bit longer. The way it fits your figure like a glove is insane, you can't just cut it pleeeease 😅
Ooh you're making me reconsider the chop. Now to find a thick lace! haha 💗
I used natural cycles as a successful contraceptive for 2 years and then within 6 weeks of switching to "planning pregnancy" mode I got pregnant with my son. It has had a really positive impact on my life!
The dress is definitely 90s lingerie, but beautiful
Loving the thrifting content but please be careful about promoting apps like Natural Cycles as an alternative to birth control because they are very much not 😞
they’ve had ads banned in the UK for false claims, and there’s a growing far right movement against hormonal birth control that’s worth keeping an eye on. Really like your content but this is a huge red flag for me!
A perfect use of 99% is ten times worse than other methods like the implant (in the arm) which has a 99.9% use. With NC, 1/100 users can expect to get pregnant each year. With the implant, 1/1000 can expect to get pregnant in a year. The perfect use rates of NC come from a study on their existing app users, not a randomised population trial. This means that they have already to a degree self-selected a type of person who felt they have a regular cycle, can wake up at the same time each day, not lose their phone, and keep track of their discharge in addition etc. Not everyone suits regularly taking the pill and typical use reflects that. I had to stop the pill because my IBS was bad enough that I wasn't absorbing it multiple days a month for example. Basal temperature is impacted by having had a glass of wine the night before, coming down with a cold, and stress. I really support anyone who wants to get to know their cycle better but please use condoms as well, I know two people who got pregnant using natural cycles 😬 Doctors are told not to recommend NC (by NC!) if the patient would be distressed if they became pregnant in the next year. I think that question should be flagged up for every potential user before they pay.
Cut the dress down to a cami and just use nipple covers if you're comfortable with just that.
Lucy...girl. U might have a baby LOL