Coins are not fully CGT free. You get taxed on the face value of the tender. So sovereigns being £1 are better to buy than the 1/4 which are £25 ( as legal tender)
Excellent break down of the gold content and price of the Sovereign vs the Britannia. I do stack the fractional Britannia coins but do not own a Sovereign...although I like the history behind the Sovereign.
That’s such a lovely comment - thank you. I enjoy making the videos and had no idea they would reach so many people! I hope you enjoy them. All my very best, Metal Head.
Being a coin collecter for 50 years ,I wouldn't buy any new coins only sovereign,s before 1900 , especially the shield backs ,you will always get at least your money back they are always in demand 🤔
@MetalHeadStacker Thanks, found this useful. Here in South Carolina we don’t pay tax on any bouillon but I do seek low premiums. Love old Sovereigns because I usually pay less than 4% premium on them. Again I love Britannia’s and the security features and honestly think it’s the best coin out there but I just love the sturdiness of an old Sovereign.
*PERSONALLY, I LIKE TO BUILD MY COLLECTION W 24K.. I HAVE MINIMAL SILVER AND METALS THAT I LIKE VS THINKING ABOUT WHAT WILL BE MOST VALUABLE FOR MY KIDS & GRANDKIDS*
Brittanias are the most beautiful coin in my opinion. I don't have a 1/10 oz gold but i do have one in platinum. Not only is it the most beautiful coin but it's the most beautiful coin with the most security features to date
The sovereign is recognised as a previously used coin for payment, the 1/4oz britannia hasn't been, however I do believe that the 1/4oz gold Queen's Beasts series has lifted the more affordable (as against 1/4oz QBs) 1/4oz gold britannia's acceptability. If you had a 1oz gold britannia no-one would be comparing it with sovereigns, though there is a case of using less currency that a 1oz Britannia would cost in favour of four sovereigns. After all the purpose of stacking gold is to be able to release its store of value, at your time of choosing.
@@throwachair That's exactly right, if you have 48 sovereigns in your savings portfolio, you could inflation proof your pension for 12 years liquidating a sovereign every 3 months, without feeling mortified that you've had to do it. I think you would struggle to cover 12yrs with 12 x 1oz gold coins, choosing which one to part with would just add to the agony of their impending loss.
In Norway I am not restrained between only these two coins tax free in that 1/4 oz range. So I buy both of them. I love the 24k bullion but I equally love the older gold coins. So it just boils down to what is the better deal. I go back and forth depending on what coins are available. I will rather buy a lovely old 22k coin than a 24k undesirable one. I think both are great and actually the old world coins might be undervalued when buying them close to spot.
@@thetruth9210 I hear you. Recently got my first gold brit quarter oz and decided it would be my main stacker. Because of the beauty, but most of all the security features as you mentioned. Although I have bought numismatic gold pieces that are in really good shape, but I paid very low premium. I think those pieces could fetch a high premium if I find the right buyer. For instance I was going to pick up two lovely Swedish 10 kr 1900 in nice condition, but the seller only had one left so he threw in a Russian 5 ruble 1898 at melt price. When I went online I saw they are sort of rare and fetch a high premium sometimes. Purchases like that is what makes me fascinated by the old world coins. I love the numismatic aspect when the metal is valuable too. Yet the gold britannia is going to be an easy sell whenever / if ever I need to sell, while the numismatic pieces is better to sell without any rush.
All sovereigns year 2000 and over have the copper tinge to them none of the bullion grade coins have any real numismatic/collector value. If you are investing in sovereigns you really are only investing with the expectation of the price of gold rising.and it doesn't matter what colour the coin is it's 22ct.
Interesting video. Today, using prices from a big London dealer the premiums have widened yet again. 13.09% premium for 1/4 gold Britannia 6.75% premium for Sovereign I prefer the look of the pure gold Britannia but it’s a big difference in premium that might not be worth it. That said, could the Britannia be a better collector’s item or go up more in value due to the appeal of the 24-carat gold?
Thanks for that, looks that way indeed. This years Platinum Jubilee Sovereign design has a better chance of commanding a collectors premium than the standard Brit I imagine. I'm going with the Sov's this year for all of the above reasons, but I do love the Brits in every other way.
The soverign hold's much more value within your tax allowance. As it's face value is only £1 compared to the britainian at £25. So it's a no brainer.....
@@paulgroves1427 yes you are correct, their face value is £1 of legal tender! The 1971 Coinage Act states: "No person shall, except under the authority of a licence granted by the Treasury, melt down or break up any metal coin." you can trade or sell them for their gold value but for tax purposes and the payment of debts they are legal tender. This is precisely why they are cgt free! Did you really not know this? 🤔
@@gympump8702 not completely cgt free. Cgt applies but only to the face value of the coin. So the sovereign being £1 you will only pay cgt on that. So a big pile of 1/10s and a big pile of sovereigns you will pay less tax on the sovereign
Easier to sell. And if you only need a few hundred pounds you can just sell one, rather than having to sell the big 1oz coin and having loads of extra cash you didn’t need.
Just bought 4 x 1/4 oz brittanias for £1800, im a bit late to the party but glad to be here 😀
Welcome on board!! All my best, Metal Head.
£2035.36 worth today....never late to the party😀
I like the sovereigns much more than I do the 1/4 ounce Brittanias due to the lower premiums.
Agreed Matthew I do like the Sovereigns more on balance if I’m honest. Hope you are well Sir. All my best, Metal Head.
Coins are not fully CGT free.
You get taxed on the face value of the tender. So sovereigns being £1 are better to buy than the 1/4 which are £25 ( as legal tender)
Awesome video. I love the Britannias. Just picked up my first one ounce Britannia. Thank for sharing, liked and subbed.
Awesome! Thank you!
Excellent break down of the gold content and price of the Sovereign vs the Britannia. I do stack the fractional Britannia coins but do not own a Sovereign...although I like the history behind the Sovereign.
Nice coins, hopefully the 2022 sovereign will command a bigger premium in years to come because of the different design.
And the queen died.
Thank you for the video just started buying fractional gold and today just purchased my first sovereign.
I never comment on TH-cam but - keep posting videos, you're really interesting and I've no doubt that you're videos will get better and better.
That’s such a lovely comment - thank you. I enjoy making the videos and had no idea they would reach so many people! I hope you enjoy them. All my very best, Metal Head.
Being a coin collecter for 50 years ,I wouldn't buy any new coins only sovereign,s before 1900 , especially the shield backs ,you will always get at least your money back they are always in demand 🤔
@MetalHeadStacker Thanks, found this useful. Here in South Carolina we don’t pay tax on any bouillon but I do seek low premiums. Love old Sovereigns because I usually pay less than 4% premium on them. Again I love Britannia’s and the security features and honestly think it’s the best coin out there but I just love the sturdiness of an old Sovereign.
Glad to hear you enjoyed! Thanks for checking in and all my best, Metal Head.
First sovereign was 1480s for Henry the 7th
*PERSONALLY, I LIKE TO BUILD MY COLLECTION W 24K.. I HAVE MINIMAL SILVER AND METALS THAT I LIKE VS THINKING ABOUT WHAT WILL BE MOST VALUABLE FOR MY KIDS & GRANDKIDS*
Great topic. I live in the USA and some of my first gold coins were the sovereigns. Liked and sub’d
Fantastic and welcome on board - can I ask out of curiosity - how did you come across the channel? All my best, Metal Head.
Get both. Lots of.
I'd buy any of them at the right price, but do try to avoid the newer copper looking Sovereigns.
I hear you CCT, I like both but understand why you might not be keen on the new Sovs! Metal Head.
@cybercutaintwitcher why do you avoid them? I just bought one 😭😭
@@malikadeniji6012 I posted a video on why i avoid them.
I like the security feature on the newer Britannias , gives me a bit more peace of mind in this day and age!
Same mate 🫡
Brittanias are the most beautiful coin in my opinion. I don't have a 1/10 oz gold but i do have one in platinum. Not only is it the most beautiful coin but it's the most beautiful coin with the most security features to date
The sovereign is recognised as a previously used coin for payment, the 1/4oz britannia hasn't been, however I do believe that the 1/4oz gold Queen's Beasts series has lifted the more affordable (as against 1/4oz QBs) 1/4oz gold britannia's acceptability.
If you had a 1oz gold britannia no-one would be comparing it with sovereigns, though there is a case of using less currency that a 1oz Britannia would cost in favour of four sovereigns.
After all the purpose of stacking gold is to be able to release its store of value, at your time of choosing.
Indeed my friend. No one size fits all it would appear! Hope you are well & all my best, Metal Head.
spot on, I know more people I could offload a sovereign on at short notice than a full ounce
@@throwachair That's exactly right, if you have 48 sovereigns in your savings portfolio, you could inflation proof your pension for 12 years liquidating a sovereign every 3 months, without feeling mortified that you've had to do it.
I think you would struggle to cover 12yrs with 12 x 1oz gold coins, choosing which one to part with would just add to the agony of their impending loss.
Just bought my first sovereign. Mainly because the queen died and the 2022 is a 1 year platinum jubilees cast
My vote is for the Britannia 👍
24 k . with many security features !
You can't go wrong
Another video on how I make money from gold/silver -
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Current price is america is only 3% premium. Very happy with my purchase
Enjoy!
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I like, and buy both as a US citizen.. Beautiful Coins
Good times John - imo both nice coins. All my best, Metal Head.
Lol 😂 @Metalhead great video but you write like my brother does. As my mum used to say 'a spider with ink on its feet running across the page' 🤣👑💪
🥲 haha - things can only get better from here! Hope you’re good Sir and have a good weekend! Metal Head.
@@MetalHeadMoney piss him off its only writing
In Norway I am not restrained between only these two coins tax free in that 1/4 oz range. So I buy both of them. I love the 24k bullion but I equally love the older gold coins. So it just boils down to what is the better deal. I go back and forth depending on what coins are available. I will rather buy a lovely old 22k coin than a 24k undesirable one. I think both are great and actually the old world coins might be undervalued when buying them close to spot.
Great perspective and thanks for checking in all the way from Norway! Metal Head.
@@thetruth9210 I hear you. Recently got my first gold brit quarter oz and decided it would be my main stacker. Because of the beauty, but most of all the security features as you mentioned. Although I have bought numismatic gold pieces that are in really good shape, but I paid very low premium. I think those pieces could fetch a high premium if I find the right buyer. For instance I was going to pick up two lovely Swedish 10 kr 1900 in nice condition, but the seller only had one left so he threw in a Russian 5 ruble 1898 at melt price. When I went online I saw they are sort of rare and fetch a high premium sometimes. Purchases like that is what makes me fascinated by the old world coins. I love the numismatic aspect when the metal is valuable too. Yet the gold britannia is going to be an easy sell whenever / if ever I need to sell, while the numismatic pieces is better to sell without any rush.
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chards and atkinsons premium more around 5.5% on sovs, dont see many of the 2022 sovs on ebay when i look, maybe not too popular with that colour.
All sovereigns year 2000 and over have the copper tinge to them none of the bullion grade coins have any real numismatic/collector value.
If you are investing in sovereigns you really are only investing with the expectation of the price of gold rising.and it doesn't matter what colour the coin is it's 22ct.
They are nice
Agreed Silver Scorpion - I really like both!
Interesting video. Today, using prices from a big London dealer the premiums have widened yet again.
13.09% premium for 1/4 gold Britannia
6.75% premium for Sovereign
I prefer the look of the pure gold Britannia but it’s a big difference in premium that might not be worth it. That said, could the Britannia be a better collector’s item or go up more in value due to the appeal of the 24-carat gold?
Thanks for that, looks that way indeed. This years Platinum Jubilee Sovereign design has a better chance of commanding a collectors premium than the standard Brit I imagine. I'm going with the Sov's this year for all of the above reasons, but I do love the Brits in every other way.
@@myhonesttake7527 Thanks for your insights! 😊
if you buy a 2023 brittania now, it will have the queens head on. that may entail a small collectors premium.
But britannia is 24 ct so that must mean something regards price and weight??
would love if you could do this for half sovereigns vs 1/10 oz
I will look to do this when I get some more gold 👌
thanks man would be beneficial for us low budget stackers !@@MetalHeadMoney
I’d look forward to a video on this subject as I’m low budget myself currently stacking bars as it’s cheaper.
Did you take into account that the Sovereign is 22carat and the Britannia 24carat ?
Hello there! Yes I did indeed. I hope the video was interesting and you are well. All my best, Metal Head.
Do all Sovereigns new and older versions have the same amount of Gold content? Which versions are most popular amongst Gold Bullion Shops?
Yes, it is a 22k gold coin no matter what year you buy.
Actually there is one coin I can’t remember that have more gold than the rest of them. It is a French coin I believe tho.
Good video 👑 i like them both 🪙
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed! Metal Head.
The soverign hold's much more value within your tax allowance. As it's face value is only £1 compared to the britainian at £25.
So it's a no brainer.....
I think the tax allowance is based on their actual value, not the face value...
@@paulgroves1427 yes you are correct, their face value is £1 of legal tender!
The 1971 Coinage Act states: "No person shall, except under the authority of a licence granted by the Treasury, melt down or break up any metal coin."
you can trade or sell them for their gold value but for tax purposes and the payment of debts they are legal tender.
This is precisely why they are cgt free!
Did you really not know this? 🤔
@@gympump8702 not completely cgt free. Cgt applies but only to the face value of the coin. So the sovereign being £1 you will only pay cgt on that. So a big pile of 1/10s and a big pile of sovereigns you will pay less tax on the sovereign
Still allowed to buy 240 Britainian coins a year without paying any capital gains on them as you get be a £6000 a year allowance. Is that correct?
Can the sovereign tarnish over time as it's not pure gold?
I haven’t experienced that on any of mine and I have one dating back to the 60’s. All my best, Metal Head.
Out of interest, 1 oz Britannia’s seem to have the smallest premiums. Why buy 4 x 1/4 oz and pay huge premiums?
Easier to sell. And if you only need a few hundred pounds you can just sell one, rather than having to sell the big 1oz coin and having loads of extra cash you didn’t need.
Agreed mate - better liquidity for the mass market in my opinion. All my best, Metal Head.
@@MetalHeadMoney Fair point. However, combine Britannia’s with Sovereigns (lower premiums) to provide liquidity.
True that Sir - hope you enjoy the videos 👌 Metal Head.
@@MetalHeadMoney Thank you, it’s good to see the different perspectives. Helps form an opinion.