Why you need to stop using f8

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2025

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  • @Martingj56
    @Martingj56 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I like your approach on depth of field in night shots. Up until now I did the same as with landscapes during daylight, your absolutely right: what you don’t see doesn’t have to be in focus. That’s the biggest learning point of this video.

    • @Keith-n7b
      @Keith-n7b หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're!

  • @julianheritage6436
    @julianheritage6436 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video as always Craig. A very creative reminder on using the tools we have available. Also loved the moody mono location images at the start. That’s why you are one of my favourite you tube channels, no fancy locations, you rock up to a ‘normal’ location and get some fantastic images where some people may struggle get anything. Keep doing what you are doing, haha and refreshing not to be sponsored by a certain web hosting platform 😊

  • @BrianChristopherPhotography
    @BrianChristopherPhotography หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Would that be 'f4 and be there' on micro four thirds crop sensors?

    • @e6Vlogs
      @e6Vlogs  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, that would be the MFT version of the saying 👍

    • @Escafane
      @Escafane หลายเดือนก่อน

      And f5.6 and be there on APS-C.

    • @SRC1711
      @SRC1711 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's how I shoot with my Z30 for sneaky street photos. F5.6 and auto ISO

  • @SRC1711
    @SRC1711 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was skeptical about the heading but when I started watching the video, I sat up and took notice! In fact I watched twice! And I also subscribed. You are brilliant! Very different from other TH-camrs.
    Tonight it will be my 20mm at 1.8 on my D780!

  • @craig_m_mi
    @craig_m_mi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For whatever reason, my favorite aperture in my Olympus days was f/4, but in my Fuji and Nikon days, it has been 2.8... I have no idea why. But, this video inspires me to go and just try different, and see different. For others, Craig's E6 subscription, IS worth it... to me anyway.

  • @martingreenberg870
    @martingreenberg870 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lately I’ve been doing intentional camera movement. Sometimes I forget to bring a ND filter. I stop down the aperture and lower the ISO all the way. The images get blown out when I’m at 1/4”. I’m learning to appreciate high key ICM to the extent I’m choosing to do it on purpose on a regular basis.
    An interesting thing I have been doing is shooting the same screen but using different settings. I want to see the image change. Since I’m shooting with a digital camera there is no added expense when I experiment with my settings. I have gravitated to 1/8” so I experiment with my aperture settings. When my experiments fail I didn’t fail. I’m learning what works best for me and what I like. I have learned a lot of settings don’t work for me this way.
    I love this Mark Twain saying. “Good decisions come from experience. Experience comes from making bad decisions.”
    Because of my forgetting the ND filter on a regular basis, f16 is quickly becoming my favorite aperture setting.
    Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

  • @keithtimmis
    @keithtimmis หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent and thought-provoking video. And yes, I have mainly used f8, but I will now try to be more experimental in my approach!

  • @foljs5858
    @foljs5858 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    "f/8 and be there" was for reportage and street photography - to be sure you get the shot in focus, under regular shooting conditions

  • @AK-hk2pd
    @AK-hk2pd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Craig, down here down under in the colonies, thanks for the thought provocation, we can get hi key easily with our light from 5.00 in the morning till 7 at night. 😊

  • @titouyou1
    @titouyou1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're simply very right. Your message sounds like "wake up and have fun beeing more creative" ! And winter is not only great for hibernation, it helps finding more high and low key subjects. Thanks

  • @nickshepherd8377
    @nickshepherd8377 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent Craig…very inspiring to get out there and be creative! 👏👏👏

  • @davidwalsh566
    @davidwalsh566 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting and thought-provoking content as ever Craig. I use compact and MFT cameras which often give more DoF than I really want. You've got me thinking I should try FF; film of course!

  • @craighattam2020
    @craighattam2020 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a ripper Craig! Well done.

  • @harjeetsingh9749
    @harjeetsingh9749 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Craig, you're a good photographer knowing your experience, and it shows in these videos. Great shots again and made me think over using f8 mostly. Definitely want to try night photography so your tips will not be forgotten. Keep up with your informative work.. 🤙🏽

  • @michaelj.1121
    @michaelj.1121 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good thoughts - and images to go along as proof of concept

  • @yaffulwoodpeckerpresents7784
    @yaffulwoodpeckerpresents7784 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. Good food for thought.

  • @HoutmeyersP
    @HoutmeyersP หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am a digital landscape photographer for about 20 years now. I very often include very near foreground into my compositions and also want sharpness to infinity. When i started as a novice most websites always kept telling me never to use smaller apertures than f11 or f13 as past those you would loose a lot of sharpness. While this is true when you have a photo to compare taken at f8-f11 to a photo at f16-or even f22 at 100% + magnification i never ever heard anyone say to me...." seems you used a smaller aperture than f13 now the photo looks soft". What people do say is your foreground or background looks soft...you probably used a to big aperture and you now do not have complete depht of field. Softness due to choosing a larger aperture ( and thus by most websites a better sharpness) in near foreground and background is way more visible than the bit sharpness lost by using a much smaller one. On location taking multiple photo's at f8-f11 and stacking them later for max depht is often hit and miss as in landscapes there's always something moving between those multiple photo's. I often use f22......if i do not mention that to other photographers that review my photo's....they will never know or say a thing about it. If however you say you did make an image at f22 for sure they will start to bring the image down. Why you say....because some websites have mentioned that and thats all they believe.

    • @DonaldSmith-e1m
      @DonaldSmith-e1m หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting

    • @Anon54387
      @Anon54387 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This doesn't seem to be clearly written. It seems you are mixing up bigger numbers with bigger aperture.

    • @HoutmeyersP
      @HoutmeyersP หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Anon54387 No i am not....larger/bigger aperture means smaller/lower f number....smaller aperture means higher f number.

    • @jatsajatsa
      @jatsajatsa หลายเดือนก่อน

      Commas? Pfah! A bourgeois concept that only encourages the construction of needlessly muddled sentences. No, wait...

  • @jeffslade1892
    @jeffslade1892 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The aperture also controls beam flattening. The projected image of a simple lens is spherical, onto a flat sensor or film plane. This means the centre is sharp whilst the corners are defocused. This is usually corrected by lens design, projecting a flatter image, and/or having a bigger image circle than the sensor to alleviate vignetting. Closing the aperture blocks the fuzzy sides of the beam and so sharpens the image all the way across; usually one or two stops from wide open. I usually like a little vignetting and turn any anti-vignetting function off. Having the periphery slightly defocused can emphasise the subject in the middle.

  • @redrobin1129
    @redrobin1129 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video thank-you got me thinking

  • @danfry909
    @danfry909 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great advice, top music selections too!! I've always been fearful of using smaller apertures due to the dreaded lens convergence. But I do need to experiment more to see where exactly convergence becomes a problem in each of my lenses.

  • @shovelrocker7102
    @shovelrocker7102 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think my most used aperture is f5.6. For some reason I really like how the images look like on that. Tend to use that on my 12-100 f4 lens and back in the day 12-40 f2.8. This video was good lesson, Do need to get out of my though I need the image to be as sharp as possible as sharpness isn't always the thing to go for.

  • @WMedl
    @WMedl หลายเดือนก่อน

    As I shoot mainly manual in dark conditions I use spot metering and expose directly for the bright motif ....

  • @philiprolenick4475
    @philiprolenick4475 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Recently read a comment that pointed out that Steven Spielberg always uses a deep depth of field, keeping his characters' environment in focus. Look for that next time you watch one of his films.

  • @cmar6268
    @cmar6268 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent and instructive video!

  • @ofthenearfuture
    @ofthenearfuture หลายเดือนก่อน

    As you say, it always comes down to use case and the image you're trying to create. And probably most importantly, every lens has it's own unique characteristics, for how soft it is wide open, or where it's sharpest, etc. So you need to understand each inside and out to know how to create the look you're going for.
    But for the zooms I use for landscape photography, f/8 is the sharpest aperture before diffraction starts so yeah that's where I usually am lol. For my street prime f/5.6 is my preferred aperture. Portraits from f/1.8-4. Astro at f/2. The situations and choices are endless, and you only figure it out by experimenting!

  • @seaeagles6025
    @seaeagles6025 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Craig, I haven't heard of The Key Effect it looks interesting. I will certainly try this effect and hopefully I'll get great results. Thanks for sharing this video Craig 😊.

  • @paultaylor5513
    @paultaylor5513 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was always taught F/0.95 and be there

    • @10goku83
      @10goku83 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      f0.75 or nothing

  • @michaelajoseph6856
    @michaelajoseph6856 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!

  • @martinhommel9967
    @martinhommel9967 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love F8 after lots of experimenting because it allows me to tell the whole story

  • @kimc5750
    @kimc5750 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very enjoyable video!

  • @TimSeraphiel
    @TimSeraphiel หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most modern lenses are at their best at around f8 to f11. That being said you usually use the aperture that best suits your scene and how much DOF you want.

  • @Martin-nu6ym
    @Martin-nu6ym หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mainly use f8 for infrared on full frame. Diffraction starts to give me problems after f11 for IR shots. Unless I want a sun star, then I no longer care. 😛
    For visible light, I used to go crazy with f1.x primes but now I'm more comfortable with the f2.x range. And then there is the fun of using aperture for macro. Now that I'm on Nikon I at least get to enjoy seeing the effective aperture setting being shown to me.

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gosh, all this time I thought that WeeGee said "f/0.8 and be there" -- I've gone through three Voigtlaender 29mm Super-Noktons just trying to get an image.
    Not easy riding a motorbike, listening to a police scanner and manually focussing one of those at 0.8 simultaneously, but then, no one said it would be easy.

  • @ixoye56
    @ixoye56 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I use MFT and my favorite aperture is f/4, and I never go smaller than f/6.3 that seems to be the MFT sensor limit before image quality degradation.

  • @wilfs1196
    @wilfs1196 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My A setting depends on the light , my subject, & if am I trying to be creative or just taking a few random shots (which I'll probably trash later) Upon the purchase of any lens , I watch a YT video or two about my lens & make a note of where my lens aperture provides the best quality. Then I adjust from there as required for that particular moment , subject & desired effect.

  • @Martingj56
    @Martingj56 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I switched from crop sensor to full frame I used f11 for most of my landscapes, but nowadays it varies between 6.3 to 11, depending on the subject.

  • @Garciarage
    @Garciarage หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great informative and wonderful video, I’ve learnt so much. Thank you so much😊
    As I’m mainly into architecture and property photography, I’m was told not to go higher than f9 due to deflection. What are your thoughts?
    When taking detail shots I’m wide open at 50mm, but I’ve not thought of being wide open at 18mm or 20mm (I’m always at f7.1 or f8), I will try this. Thank you

  • @BobN54
    @BobN54 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There's a lot of good sense here, but the 'technical' approach that you polemicise against is the usual internet exposure cult nonsense. It leaves most people trying to adjust exposure without an idea of what they are trying to achieve, or a rational method of doing it. If exposure is all about image tonality, just use P mode. The primary purpose of the aperture control is setting DOF. For best quality you need to be setting the shallowest DOF that your creative requirements allow. Similarly, shutter speed is the motion blur control.set the most motion blur that your creative constraints allow. The thing is, image quality depends on exposure, and the best quality is with the largest exposure that you can use while satisfying what you want to do creatively.

  • @pauldarville3843
    @pauldarville3843 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting view, thanks Craig! just subscribed. I use a Canon 6DM2

    • @e6Vlogs
      @e6Vlogs  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Paul. Despite admitting that you use a Canon 6D, we'll let you stay!

  • @marcellaufer9668
    @marcellaufer9668 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent content and great pictures. Your points about depth of field are spot on. However, if you shoot raw , can you not adjust exposure in post leaving you with more options?

  • @russellmaddicks5081
    @russellmaddicks5081 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good tips. Thanks. one question. I really liked the black and white beach photos at the beginning? What was the small compact that you used and were you shooting at 1x1 or did you crop afterwards?

    • @e6Vlogs
      @e6Vlogs  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s the Ricoh GR3. Yes I crop and shoot square in-camera.

  • @smooth111012
    @smooth111012 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful images, do you take them in camera black and white or edit them from colour?

  • @jameshchetwyndjr9739
    @jameshchetwyndjr9739 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video

  • @280bunny
    @280bunny หลายเดือนก่อน

    Certainly I don't have a favourite aperture, I experiment depending on what I think I would like to achieve, quite often I like shallow depth of field when shooting detail shots, they seem to have more impact!😀

  • @shumyinghon
    @shumyinghon หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am a f11 guy with my wide zoom lens - it calls for it :)

  • @Eugene-Braack
    @Eugene-Braack หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice one, Craig. You got the gears in me mind turning.

  • @paulhenry7
    @paulhenry7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    f8 is fine if you’re earning a decent living (from Joe Public, not photographers) doing routine social photography, as I did for decades. To paraphrase one of the American speakers, you could say: 'There are apertures for show, and apertures for dough.' That is, there are times to be sure of the end result, and times to experiment. Technically, depth of focus is not the same as depth of field. And in fact, theoretically, there is no such thing as depth of field, it is a misnomer, it should really be called, perhaps, ‘zone of acceptable sharpness’. There is only one, not necessarily flat, plane that can truly be in focus ... at any aperture. I think Jason at Points in Focus agrees with me on that point.

  • @scotthullinger4684
    @scotthullinger4684 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every f/stop is there to be used, even f/8. SO USE IT -

  • @oneeyedphotographer
    @oneeyedphotographer หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't overexpose or underexpose in camera, if I want those effects, I do it in post processing. I shift off base ISO only if I can't otherwise get a good histogram.
    I shoot in M and use image brightness, histograms, zebras stripes etc to judge exposure. I could use aperture priority and exposure compensation, I don't see a compelling reason to do so. I expect I could use shutter priority too.
    Nobody finds my photography boring. Including my TAFE lecturers.
    I have done single prime, wrongs settings (generally wide open), wrong lens (done a portrait with a fisheye recently)?, go where there's nothing to see to make interesting. 2024 is my year of (mostly) bad photos. I might continue it into 2025.
    I do stuff, to see what happens. What happens is a lot of junk, reasonably frequently a decent photo nobody else would make.

  • @camo010154
    @camo010154 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Craig, thanks for the video. I use F8 to F16 for my street pics, and 1.8 or 1.4 primes and 2.8 on my zooms. Keep up the good work.

  • @frankwong9486
    @frankwong9486 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Next video is to suggest people try step away from shallow dof bokeh favor
    "You you need to stop shooting wide open"
    Yes fast aperture and shallow dof can pop up the main thing but it may a bit boring too 😂
    Unlimited video idea

  • @davidjoy5996
    @davidjoy5996 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best photo vlogger on You Tube. Craig doesn’t need fancy locations or over the top equipment. No one exemplifies what can be achieved with a camera along with the sheer joy of taking photographs like Craig.

  • @fintonmainz7845
    @fintonmainz7845 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video but the background "music" is irritating.

  • @jimbruton9482
    @jimbruton9482 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just a tip and it may just be me. I don't like want to watch 3 minutes of music/video before you get to the subject. I got bored waiting and moved on.......

  • @kevins8575
    @kevins8575 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your intro is WAY too long

  • @devroombagchus7460
    @devroombagchus7460 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks. A good video. But I wish the title would have been: ..ONLY f8. Depth of field or out of focus are ancient concepts. All modern experts use Bokeh.

  • @ImagemakerAi
    @ImagemakerAi หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bull crap!

    • @SRC1711
      @SRC1711 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should check your IQ. or perhaps you should watch the video again.

  • @jackthompson8377
    @jackthompson8377 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please don’t use the POV technique. Just show the photos. Has all the charm of a police video.

    • @e6Vlogs
      @e6Vlogs  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I love the Police. My favourite band!

    • @gregmonforton4103
      @gregmonforton4103 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      One thing I like about it is that I can see how standing around in a location I can imagine myself in can turn into a great photo that maybe I couldn't have imagined taking myself!