Since I initially forgot to add the scene with Beatrice demanding Bojack sing the lollipop song, here’s an edit with it added in: th-cam.com/video/VAcrtTZO8yE/w-d-xo.html
In the first episode Bojack actually says to young Sarah Lynn: "You gotta give the people what they want, even if it kills you, even if it empties you out until there's nothing left to empty. No matter what happens, no matter how much it hurts, you don't stop dancing, and you don't stop smiling, and you give those people what they want."
And before he realizes Diane didn't pick up his call, he's under the table in a kitchen just like Sarah Lynn in the episode of "Horsin' Around", which itself is based of Bojack's mother speech forcing him to sing to a party as a child and, again, Bojack is under the table hiding.
@@BryceZed this show is so good. It's so funny, and yet absolutely guts you. It's a true tragedy - there's so many things he should have done differently, but he never would have because everything that happened to mm led him to make those decisions. Poor Sarah Lynn.
There's a very subtle difference in the version with gina vs. Sarah Lynn. Gina says "until the curtains fall." In theater, once you are off stage, you're free to move out of character. When the show ends, you're done. Sarah Lynn says "'Til the curtain call." The curtain call is the end, coming out to bow, accept your praise. Gina suggests that once you can't be seen, you can stop. Sarah Lynn's suggests that even in death, she has to keep dancing; in the form of her lasting legacy being abused and used for the benefit of others.
@@Gokubowser oh bojack there is no place. this is just your brain going through what it thinks it needs to go through. Maybe someone will come save you maybe not
Secretariat's speech is the only part of Bojack I can't watch all the way through. That "halfway down" part is the thing almost nobody talks about but as a survivor that was the most terrifying moment of my life.
@@rachelwolf6297 I can't imagine being in such a position. To be so miserable and empty that you feel you need to end it but at that last second finding that small reason to keep going. For what it's worth I'm really glad you didn't succeed in your attempt. I hope you're in a better place now
It's so depressing how Gina tells Bojack to not say anything about abusing her, because she wants to be known for something. Not as someone who was abused by Bojack.
That's because when men, usually ones with a platform, mess with a girl/woman, consenting or not, that's all that the girl/woman will be know for. Not her talent, intellect, personality, contributions, or anything meaningful that she's ever done in life. All she will be known for is that one chick that the powerful man messed with THAT ONE TIME. That's it. And when a guy messes with you like that, all you want to do is forget about him and move on, but it's so difficult to do when word gets out and EVERYONE is talking about it in person and on social media, so now you are no longer your own person. Just that one chick that the popular guy messed with. Nothing that you do from there on out will change that. And if by some miracle you do see any change, you are most likely very old.
@@awilli182 Comment aged like fine wine. Jenni Hermoso was on the winning team for the Women's Soccer World Cup and everyone only knows her as the girl who got forcibly kissed by Luis Rubiales
The PTSD she went through after Bojack choked her made her seem difficult to work with to those that don't know the truth. It makes me think, how many "difficult" actors are there that went through something similar but they don't want to be known as victims of more powerful people so they just accept being a "diva" or "difficult" to work with?
Notice how she looks down through the door for a while before falling. Do you think that in those 17 minutes, she was alive, staring at death in the face until it was too late?
Sarah Lynn's reprise is a summarization of her whole life: Starting out innocently enough, rising in fame, turning high, and first reminiscing on the words 'Don't Stop Dancing'... before descending into madness and popularity, sexualized, objectivied, turned into a goddess, seeing her image everywhere; then, abandonment, silence, and loneliness, as well as the awareness of what awaited her. She herself noted, at the end of her very first appearance in the show, how she would inevitably die young. The tragedy is, Sarah Lynn had been staring down at death in the face for even longer.
@@omnipotentbanana1576 probably because she's acknowledging that it was her drug addiction which ended her early (heroin cuts off the oxygen to kill you) and also it cuts off before "till the curtain call" because even after her death she can't rest since her mom uses her fame and capitalizes off of it
The hands on Sarah Lynn’s shirt gave me chills. She wore the same outfit to Herb’s funeral, but it was also implied that her stepfather molested her when she was little. That whole sequence was just haunting.
Before Sara Lynn fell through the door, she said “don’t stop dancing-“ she never finished the whole line/chorus: don’t stop dancing till the curtains calls” indicating that she ended the line early and also her life ended too early
"The decision to have Sarah Lynn fall through the door before ending the line with “‘til the curtain call” reinforces that, even in her death, Sarah Lynn is still 'dancing.’ Her mother continues profiting off of her, even capitalizing off of her death with ads like “I’d die for a Pepsi!” BoJack helped start all of this, the regret that has this song playing in his mind again. He’s become powerless to stop it."
@@FlailSnail222 yes! it’s such a great detail i also remember seeing someone say that shes the only one who stares into the abyss before jumping bc it symbolises her waiting to be saved for those 17 minutes that bojack was in the parking lot it’s all just very sad :(
Because she’s still part of the conversation in Hollywoo, she hasn’t stopped. Might be why she sings curtail call, which is the beginning of the play, rather than curtain falls, which is the end of the show.
She was waiting for bojack to save her in those 17 minutes (part where she stares at the abyss) and then she stopped breathing ( part where she held her nose) and finally decided to let go as she would still live on in the world
Stephanie Beatriz is a gem. No wonder why she got casted as Mirabel for Encanto. Her voice is so beautiful, and the song is catchy. On the other hand, from the perspective of Sarah Lynn, it just makes me cry. Her whole life was a public show and even when she died, everything was so public. I love this show.
Sarh Lynn holding her nose right before diving into the darkness reminds me of her first scene, where we see her depicted as Ophelia; she drowns - not in water, but from the pressure.
That Ophelia painting was a nice piece of foreshadowing. Ophelia's death is collateral damage of Hamlet's story, just like how Sarah Lynn is the collateral damage of Bojack's
She was also staring into a void that makes her life look insignificant just like how she died. She died looking at space as Bojack talks about being in the moment.
Also with heroin overdoses you actually die by suffocation cos you stop breathing, so her holding her breath is accurate to how she died. Making it even more chilling
One thing to also notice is in ginas version, she refers to life ending as the curtains falling, but Sarah Lynn refers to it as the curtain call. If you’ve ever participated in a school play or anything of that nature, you’ll know curtain call is when all the actors come out on stage and take a bow, it technically happens after the show is over (I.e. the curtain falling) I think of this as performing until people see the real you, not the character you put on every day to make people think you’re put together. This is what Sarah Lynn does her entire life. Instead of living genuinely until the show is over, she performs until her true messy self outweighs the image she displays. Just a neat thought.
It could also be about how in Sarah Lynn's case, she's still just as much a topic of rumours and sensationalism even after her death as she was before. So she hasn't stopped dancing, even after the curtains fell.
@@pikachuboladaum5944 This is a neat thought, and pretty smart to connect the two, but I'm pretty sure that's just the sound of the backdrop falling back into place
Another thing I noticed is sarah lynn's version says "old sport" instead of "my friend". "Old sport" is Gatsby's catchphrase in The Great Gatsby, and Gatsby ends up dying in his pool after getting shot. Not too far fetched to call it a reference?
@@thefreelancequeen omg, I'm actually disappointed and livid about that, we never even get to see gina at all for the rest of the finale..I'm guessing it was rushed due to show ending :/
I have mixed feelings with Gina’s ‘ending’. I wanted the reporters to find out what happened and expose it. I wanted Gina to open up about it and heal. But it was her decision not to tell anything and I am glad that BoJack and the creators respected that and didn’t bring it up again. Because it also reflects a very sad truth. And I am even more happy that they let us know that Gina got the part for Fireflame. She deserves everything.
@@thefreelancequeen in one of the last episodes there's a billboard that shows Gina became the lead of that female superhero movie! Very small detail but it's gives us something
Cem Sakalli not by its fans, no. But this show is a really rare show to see people talk about and i think it will fate out of the public contiouns, but atleast for us, we will know: there is always more show.
Something tells me that unfortunately it will be forgotten. I've been telling people how great this show is, but I'm afraid it will still be overshadowed by shows like Breaking Bad and GoT. And I'm sad about that.
@@unowen7591 it's also a tough sale... Specially season one people look at it without knowing anything about it and will just think, oh animal family guy...
I can confirm this. I’ve been trying to get my dad to watch the show, but he can’t get into it. I keep trying to tell him to just keep watching and then he’ll be hooked.
@Autumn Potato When she was an elderly woman with dementia, he literally had power over her for that time, because he had executive rights as her closest remaining relative while she was not sound of mind. He could literally do anything he wanted with her that wasn't illegal. I like that the show made the distinction that someone being antagonistic to you doesn't mean a power imbalance doesn't exist. Everyone that Bojack hurt that way he saw it as him reacting to them making the first move (Gina took his pills, Beatrice drugged Hollyhock, Penny and Sarah Lynn went to him first for guidance/affection), none of that makes what he did OK and that's part of owning your own shit.
@@jjj7790 No one said that those things make it OK. And his mom did have a lot of power over him, even when she had dementia, she was capable of saying one line and completely ruining him, even when she died she had a lot of power over him "I C U" fucked him up for a while after her death, so yeah.
I miscounted while I was watching through and thought for sure that this was the last one. I was pretty sure that there were supposed to be eight new episodes and I was on episode eight.
@@qctye I mean, there were multiple occasions where Bojack attempted. Twice by drowning and one by letting go of the wheel while driving on the highway.
In Bojack's defense you don't leave muffins in the produce section, I'd think they just decided they didn't want them. Who leaves muffins in the produce section and assumes that it is an indicator of dibs?
When Sarah Lynn cut Bojack's apology off, it's such a small detail that maybe ssys a lot. We find out later this is all just in Bojack's head as he's drowning, so why have her cut him off in the one moment he can finally talk to her, even if it's in his own head? Deep down, he probably realizes it doesn't matter. He's apologized to people he's hurt countless times, thinking that will solve things, but it doesn't. It won't change that Sarah Lynn is dead, and it won't ultimately change how he feels about it. Deep down, he knows that's true with everyone he's ever apologized to. And he needs to sit and listen to someone he's hurt, someone he abandoned, without his defense mechanisms of interjecting or arguing or projecting or demeaning himself. He has to just watch, as part of the audience, instead of the performer that ultimately made and killed Sarah Lynn.
AGREED!!! Also, the way she says "this is MY time!" could be a parallel about how she tried to find her own legacy but it was not only way too short, but BoJack was the reason she's like that in general. He put pressure on her, he got her on that bender, he waited 17 minutes to get help.
This also ultimately alligns with his last interaction with Herb before Herb's death. Bojack apologized to Herb, not to actually ammend what he had done in order for Herb to be angry at him, or even to just make Herb feel better about what had happened between them, but to make himself feel better because he had thought that Herb had little time left. He wanted to exaunerate himself of the guilt of what he did, while Herb's feelings were an afterthought. Then he was genuinely shocked and bewildered at the fact that Herb, of course, did not forgive him. He couldn't even understand how or why Herb couldn't forgive him, as if his actions hadn't essentially shot their friendship in the heart, and his apology was only there to watch as it bled out and died. Herb not forgiving him is probably a huge moment that plays into why Sarah Lynn cut him off, as well as why in general, he feels him apologizing won't mean anything in the end. Because the first time he did try to apologize to somebody who he did genuinely hurt, he got the cold, raw truth, that apologizing doesn't just mean that everything is going to be okay.
I think Bojack is quietly aware of the in fact his narcissism got her killed so she herself cuts him off when he starts making the apology about himself "I" should've protected you- "Bojack, this is "my", time" "Of course!" Maybe he wants to feel he did right by her, by dedicating the attention he didn't give her when she was dying, the attention that could've saved her.
So I actually had to check but it's like right on the second man holy shit that is an amazing observation and ironic given bojacks experiences relating to the number💀
The whole bit about “The chatter stops, the crowed departs” and just how everyone forgets all about you once you die. I had a moment when I first saw this
Princessaur _ seeing them side to side really draws the parallels both have. With Bojack worried about something in the beginning to him being startled by the ending of the musical number. If episode 15 doesn’t get an Emmy I’ll be surprised.
@@Emerly the Emmys and other award shows are mostly rigged and rarely ever give awards to the great shows, they just give it to whichever rakes in the most money
The creepiest thing to me is that the first time I watched The View From Hallway Down and I saw her sit at the piano I immediately thought about Gina's song, so when Sara Lynn said "life is a-" I had to pause it and just sit for a minute becuase how the hell did I know she was gonna sing that
What do you mean? This came before the view from halfway down. Also, when did you see her on the piano? Again, she was already gone by the time the view from halfway down came
Is Sarah Lynn using “old sport” in her version of the song a reference to The Great Gatsby, where the main character dies in a pool much like how Bojack almost died?
yes, they made a gatsby reference way earlier in the series referring to the symbolism of the green light, but Bojack didn't know, so the person who mentioned it was like read a book
Also the author, F. Scott Fitzgerald, later became a failed scriptwriter and died in Hollywood of a heart attack in 1940. Many of his works are similar to the The Great Gatsby portraying poor men getting the rich girl, much like the story of Bojack's parents.
yea, it's kind of what beatrice did her whole life, she never stopped, she never gave up like her mother, she got married and had a kid and did the things she needed to do and she was still unhappy, until she died
something i only just noticed is how the way Sarah Lynn’s song progresses represent the life she lived. At the start we see her playing the piano, her voice is soft- innocent. This represent her naïvety as she joined the show business. But as the beat drops and she goes down the pole it’s heavily auto tuned and uses a fast backing track. This, I assume, represents how she had no control of the velocity of her fame- how artificial her life became. The pole represents how sexualised she became, how she falls down the pole ultimately representing her downfall. I also thought it was interesting of how the piano starts on the floor and rises upwards as she speeds up- showing her rise to fame. Then the ending, empty, solemn. She was so alone at the end of her life, she had nothing, no one. The backing track is soft, but she isn’t controlling it- this represents her grasp on life is gone- the drugs have taken over, they control her life now. This was probs really obvious but I found it really cool.
@@Emerly It was most definitely well deserved. Bojack Horseman is a damn roller coaster ride of a show. Like I didn't know what I was signing up for when I started watching.
Michael Thompson When it first came out and I saw the trailer, I thought it was gonna be another crude adult animation. I gave it a chance and powered through until “The Telescope.” Holy shit that’s when I realized that there’s more to this show than the slapstick corny humor it had in the episodes before that. Ever since then it’s been my favorite show that I’ve ended up showing people. It definitely deserves an Emmy after this last season with The View From Halfway Down.
I like how Sarah lynns reprise isn’t exactly sung in a sad ballad format. The beginning is slow, but gina’s definitely had the vocal upper-hand. Anyone who doesn’t know the context behind these characters wouldn’t be able to fully get the emotional impact of the reprise since it’s fueled by characterization. It doesn’t rely entirely on the music for an emotional reaction
In case anyone doesn't know, the outfit Gina wears in her version of the number is a replica of the one worn by Judy Garland in the number "Get Happy" from the 1950 movie Summer Stock. Garland famously sang and recorded the movie while going through an extreme depressive crisis she was only barely recovering from after an extended leave. She went back due to a combination of her own thoughts about completing the film, but also largely due to the heavy pressure of executives, a pressure she'd felt since she was 16. Judy Garland died at 47 of an overdose, supposed to be self-inflicted.
I like how the version for Gina is “when the curtains fall” because of her interest in musical theatre whereas the version for Sarah Lynn is “til the curtain call” because she was in an actual tv setting, just a cool little detail
(Gina) Original: Life is a never ending show, my friend A twisting turning ever bending show The audience is everyone you know, my friend, leave them with smile when you go You can bet that you’re a star, so don’t forget how fun you are Get up there and give it your all And don’t stop dancing, don’t stop dancing till the curtains fall You are a rotten little cog, mon frère Spun by forces you don’t understand Living is a bitter, nasty slob mienn herr Why not sell your sadness as a brand? Take your face, and brush your mane, and find some place to cut your pain to portions we can buy at the mall And don’t stop dancing, no you can’t stop dancing till the curtains fall (awe shucks!) Today’s the day you got the spark to find a way to make your mark and get your tiny name on that wall So don’t stop dancin, baby, don’t stop spinin’ don’t stop beltin’ buddy now we’re winnin’ Grief consumes ya but ya just keep grinnin’ The ache becomes ya and it’s just beginnin’ Don’t stop dancing, nothing certain but the curtain Sarah Lynn Reprise: Life is a never ending show, old sport; except the minor detail that it ends The overtures a lifetime but the show is short Here with all your family and friends You run the race you blurt your lines, they put your face on shirts and shrines and giant signs a thousand feet tall And don’t stop dancin, don’t stop dancin till the curtain calls Shows are a never ending life of course, A silhouette that stays when you are gone What’s uses the struggle and strife old horse End it and your legacy lives on The chatter stops, the crowd departs, a needle drops, the music starts A song you taught me when I was small- don’t stop dancing, don’t stop dancing
@@blaccnblu yeah, that scene always pissed me off because some of her notes actually sounded good. It wasn’t good as a whole but with some vocal training and a better song for her voice she’d be fine
She sounded alright she just wasn’t confident in it and bojack just pushed her with no notice which destroyed any confidence she had left since she failed.
Gina’s song has the line “don’t stop dancing till the curtains fall” which means she had the ability to stop after the shows were over. Sarah Lynn had the line “don’t stop dancing till the curtain call” and a curtain call is where the actors stay behind after the shows to talk to the fans, answer questions, etc. and It’s so depressing because it shows that Sarah lynn had to keep dancing all her life even after horsing around even though she wanted to be an architect.
My favorite part of the first sequence is how Gina is performing it like a Broadway musical, which was her dream to be in, and which Bojack feels guilty over for having pushed her to pursue. His subconscious is such a brutal critic; it's delicious irony and great attention to detail by the staff writers. I can't believe I missed it on my first go of it.
The change from “curtain’s fall” to “curtain call” really gets me. In the curtain call, you’re *still preforming.* The bows are rehearsed. You smile big and wide even though you’re probably exhausted and all you want to do is wipe off your stage makeup and crawl into bed. Even when it’s over, it’s not over, not yet. It ties back into how Sara Lynn sings about how fame outlasts life. You can stop dancing at the curtain call, but there’s still more to do
Also a very underrated line peoppe never talk about is the obvious yet terrifying line "Nothing certain but the curtain" Nothing is obvious, except our death.
A fun, probably unintentional thing i just noticed. The amount of time from the door coming into view until Sarah Lynn jumps through it is almost exactly 17 seconds (perhaps a parallel to the 17 minutes she was on the brink of death before finally taking the plunge)
i just noticed the number 17 appears to be a huge theme in this show Penny was 17, Bojack waited 17 minutes until he decided to call an ambulance when Sarah Lynn overdosed in “That’s too Much Man!”, Bojack didn’t realize he was drowning 17 minutes into “The View From Halfway Down”
The amount of self sabotage expressed in the first half, "You don't want everything to be fine, how dreadfully boring". it's actually worrying how relatable this part can be, it's depressing.
The most underrated part of this whole thing is Sarah Lynns costume design during her song. The hands all symbolise different parts of her life, the sexual abuse form her step-dad, the way she was taken advantage of in the show business and her addiction. And yet nobody points it out, even though it’s one of my favourite things in the show tbh..
i see how it represents abuse but you’re saying each hand represents something different? I could see if they all could represent all those things but they all look the same tbh
The call he had with Diane at the end left me in tears.. It reminded me of a time I tried overdosing and I just sat there wishing I had someone to call and it hurt a lot. Edit: thank you everybody for your support :) without you guys I wouldn’t have the motivation for everyday triumphs like I do now. Thank you so much for all of your support ❤️❤️
TheMineEmerald I am thankfully. I still struggle with the thoughts here and there but I talk to friends as much as I can and I haven’t attempted suicide in over a year now thankfully
Sarah Lynn last line in the entire series was in bojack's head. "Don't stop dancing." Which is the mantra she lived her life by mostly thanks to Bojack. Her last line before she died was "I want to be an architect." A reflection of what she wanted to be, something, that in that episode, Bojack ignored.
“Find some way to cut your pain to portions we can buy at the mall” has always stuck with me. Those distressing lyrics paired with the upbeat music is just so haunting. Living is a nightmare, but you have to fake a smile and don’t stop dancing the whole way through
I can see that based on your Orel logo, you, (like myself), enjoy incredibly complex cartoons that are so, "fun" to watch, you just can't help but cry tears of "joy" after watching them.
Reprise of Don't Stop Dancing is my favorite song for Bojack. Creepy, and alluding to the problem of the entertainment industry all while maintaining the ominousness of it all.
When i first saw this scene in "The View From Halfway Down" my first thought was that flashback to Bojack in Horsin Around where he told Sarah Lynn that no matter what, she can never stop dancing for the crowd. Forget which episode it was tho :/
Things I noticed in this video- Don’t Stop Dancing (Original) 00:00 00:38 All of the people we’ve seen Bojack wrong in the series 00:45 Refrence to Sarah Lynn’s death in the planetarium 00:50 Bojack’s house, Bojack’s boat, the planetarium, Mr Peanutbutter’s old house, and the D from the Hollywoo sign Bojack stole for Diane 00:55 The show where Bojack’s letter to Secretariat was read (and where Secretariat gave the ‘don’t stop running’ speech) 1:08 Refrences to when Bojack took Beatrice’s doll, when Bojack slept with Charlotte’s daughter, when Sarah Lynn found the alcohol Bojack was drinking on-set when he was playing in Horsin’ Around, and when he stole Diane the D from the Hollywoo sign 1:15 Reference to when Bojack went to live in the Sugarman summer home 1:25 Refrence to when Bojack let go of the wheel whilst driving in a possible suicide attempt 1:35 Possible reference to the party where Beatrice met Butterscotch, and a reference to Beatrice’s death Don’t Stop Dancing (Reprise) 2:12 2:18 Sarah Lynn is wearing an inverted version of the outfit she wore to Herb’s funeral, the hands could be a possible reference to the abuse she faced from her stepfather 3:18 The song turns from a calm piano to a remixed, pop-type song similar to the music Sarah Lynn made as a pop star 3:48 A reference to the time where Bojack talks to a younger Sarah Lynn about how ‘you don’t stop dancing’ 4:05 Sarah Lynn holds her breath before jumping, possibly a reference to how a heroin overdose kills you by stopping your breathing (she also never finishes the last line, a possible reference to how her life was cut short) Thank you for reading! This took so long so I hope someone appreciates this-
Also, Sarah Lynn’s reprise has “old sport” instead of “my friend”, which could be a reference to Gatsby since he usually said old sport and drowned just like how Sarah Lynn took her last breath.
Also, when the pop bit ends, it represents the end of Sarah Lynn's pop career, with an empty silence standing in for the empty emotional state we first see her in, combined with her line "the chatter stops, the crowd departs".
I love this homage to "Cabaret", thematically. This number seems heavily influenced by Sally Bowles' last song, "Cabaret", which is all about giving in to this lifestyle of self-absorption, addiction, and a never-ending chase after fame and success (which, in both this show and the musical, is never fulfilled and ends in misery or death).
I love the subtlety of Gina's outfit being the same of Judys Garland in the famous "get happy" performance from Summer Stock (1950). It is so thematically appropriate and meaningful considering the lyrics and Garlands life itself
The “View from Halfway Down” wasn’t excessively creepy, but it did have the right amount to make it terrifying. I just noticed the little details like the brick wall unexplainably opening for Sarah Lynn, and that the outlines of the windows around 3:12 are shaped like tombstones.
2:46 The term “old sport” is used here by Sara Lynn and also In The Great Gatsby, where Gatsby would usually address people “old sport. He was shot and his body fell into his pool. Which is like Bojack almost drowning in his own pool.
Whenever i see sarah lynns reprise of this song i always notice how she never got to fully finish it. The full thing goes “dont stop dancing til the curtains fall/the curtain call” but she never says the end part with the curtains. Even after death shes not allowed to stop dancing and performing, her name and legacy will still continue on, theres never going to be a curtain call for her and thats so depressing :(
3:40 - if you pause it here, you can see that Sarah Lynn's pose as she falls is the mirror image of a pose she struck in the "Prickly Muffin" music video (when it goes from the planetarium to the runway the first time).
They were perhaps referencing Angela Diaz since she did get rid of Herb bc he was caught "acting gay" and then she tried to get rid of Bojack's scenes from Horsin Around as well after everything started to come down for him (that's the reason why he relapsed and broke into his old home)
Sarah lynns line" bojack, its my time" while it makes me laugh, it seems like it's because Bojack wants her to be remembered for her own thing, not him.
And also, with the fact that the entire episode takes place in BoJack's mind, her subtle dismissal is a sign that he'll never be able to forgive himself for what he did to Sarah Lynn. -ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ʀᴇᴀᴅɪɴɢ.
Wait at 1:42 she's dressed like his mom, dances backwards into the coffin and then she keeps dancing. I feel like there's some crazy symbolism I don't understand
I think it's because: A- we know that Beatrice died in the series. B- we know Beatrice was the one to tell Bojack, "Don't Stop Dancing", and the fake Beatrice in this song never stopped dancing
I think it's interesting how Gina's line is "until the curtains fall" and Sarah Lynn's is "until the curtain call". The former seems to be more sudden, like the curtains will fall without warning, and since you'll never know when, you can afford to ever stop giving your all even if it drains you completely. Even though Gina sings this, I think it actually fits better with Sarah Lynn's life. Sarah Lynn herself however says "curtain call" indicating that you'll have some notice or warning for when things are about to end and you don't have to keep straining yourself forever. Since it's pretty likely that Gina will go on to have a normal life and death after the show, my best guess is that they mirror each other's lives and deaths, similarly to how they mirror each other with the lines "life is a never-ending show" vs "shows are a never-ending life".
I’d like to see if they ever make a spin-off and he’s sober and decides to make a musical including a version of this song that would be really cool I think
I wanted so bad for Bojack and all his friends to be happy. He was a teacher. Peanut butter finally got that crossover episode (loved that scene) I prayed for a happy ending. But man they added a whole emotional roller coaster a
The quickness at which Bojack backs down when Sarah Lynn reminds him that it’s her time to perform really struck me because even in his delusions performing comes first, before yourself, others, and before the relationships you have with anyone else
Since I initially forgot to add the scene with Beatrice demanding Bojack sing the lollipop song, here’s an edit with it added in: th-cam.com/video/VAcrtTZO8yE/w-d-xo.html
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@Blizzard Snake The view from halfway down
"A song you taught me when I was small" god damn that's so sad
In the first episode Bojack actually says to young Sarah Lynn: "You gotta give the people what they want, even if it kills you, even if it empties you out until there's nothing left to empty. No matter what happens, no matter how much it hurts, you don't stop dancing, and you don't stop smiling, and you give those people what they want."
@@Phalxxx ikr that's why its heartbreaking cause it's literally the lyrics to the song
And before he realizes Diane didn't pick up his call, he's under the table in a kitchen just like Sarah Lynn in the episode of "Horsin' Around", which itself is based of Bojack's mother speech forcing him to sing to a party as a child and, again, Bojack is under the table hiding.
Don't stop dancing
@@BryceZed this show is so good. It's so funny, and yet absolutely guts you. It's a true tragedy - there's so many things he should have done differently, but he never would have because everything that happened to mm led him to make those decisions. Poor Sarah Lynn.
Sarah Lynn is definitely most fitting for the reprise she dedicated her entire life to show and she didn’t stop dancing until she dropped
Not gonna lie. I came to this video because I like the song lmao
Not even in death she found her peace. Her mother kept using her image to take advantage, getting interviews and suing Bojack for money.
Sacrifice is good. It has to be because I sacrificed a ton and I was freaking awesome. I gave everything. I gave my whole life.
Even her tempo slowed down towards the end signifying how the heroin was slowing her body till she eventually died.
ZömbieWarZunter same
I love how in both renditions there isn't a satisfying end, one is abrupt and the other trails off.
I noticed that too
Because you can't know when the end is coming, really.
Because they don’t stop dancing
Because yes
I fucking love bojack horseman
There's a very subtle difference in the version with gina vs. Sarah Lynn. Gina says "until the curtains fall." In theater, once you are off stage, you're free to move out of character. When the show ends, you're done.
Sarah Lynn says "'Til the curtain call." The curtain call is the end, coming out to bow, accept your praise. Gina suggests that once you can't be seen, you can stop. Sarah Lynn's suggests that even in death, she has to keep dancing; in the form of her lasting legacy being abused and used for the benefit of others.
I love this take
Also, gina calls bojack my friend when sarah lynn calls him “old sport”
@@hithere7080 old sport could be a reference to the great gatsby, working as a foreshadow to bojack's near-death in the pool
@@chloespades That’s a really good catch! I forgot gatzby died in his pool
That also makes "nothing's certain but the curtain" alot more haunting
Considering this song only exists in Bojack’s head maybe he has an undiscovered talent for music.
Luke Manthey it’s from the musical Cabaret.
@@brockhodge3225 I searched and didn't find anything about it, I believe you're wrong
He did help Todd out
@Monokuma I wasn't expecting Monokuma to show up just to compliment a fictionary horse's music abilities
im only now realizing his family is mostly a more music type
Secretariats speech was terrifying
@@Gokubowser oh bojack there is no place. this is just your brain going through what it thinks it needs to go through. Maybe someone will come save you maybe not
Secretariat's speech is the only part of Bojack I can't watch all the way through. That "halfway down" part is the thing almost nobody talks about but as a survivor that was the most terrifying moment of my life.
@@rachelwolf6297 I can't imagine being in such a position. To be so miserable and empty that you feel you need to end it but at that last second finding that small reason to keep going. For what it's worth I'm really glad you didn't succeed in your attempt. I hope you're in a better place now
It was a poem not a speech
ikr its a literal poem of him regretting committing suicide
"Life is a never ending show"
"Shows are a never ending life"
Except the first line needs the context of "the tiny detail that it ends"
@@gameinsane4718 it's just the opening line, they also left off the rest of the second one. Doesn't change the meaning or impact of the lines really
Determinism is Freedom 🤙
As Shakespeare said, all the world’s a stage, and all of the men and women are merely players…
Its really about bojack saying that if he dies right now... his work will still be remembered
It's so depressing how Gina tells Bojack to not say anything about abusing her, because she wants to be known for something.
Not as someone who was abused by Bojack.
That's because when men, usually ones with a platform, mess with a girl/woman, consenting or not, that's all that the girl/woman will be know for.
Not her talent, intellect, personality, contributions, or anything meaningful that she's ever done in life.
All she will be known for is that one chick that the powerful man messed with THAT ONE TIME. That's it.
And when a guy messes with you like that, all you want to do is forget about him and move on, but it's so difficult to do when word gets out and EVERYONE is talking about it in person and on social media, so now you are no longer your own person. Just that one chick that the popular guy messed with. Nothing that you do from there on out will change that. And if by some miracle you do see any change, you are most likely very old.
@@awilli182
Comment aged like fine wine.
Jenni Hermoso was on the winning team for the Women's Soccer World Cup and everyone only knows her as the girl who got forcibly kissed by Luis Rubiales
And that decision affected her career in ways she never knew which makes it even more depressing
@@morbidsearchthis is why i haye people, why can’t they just be happy for her
The PTSD she went through after Bojack choked her made her seem difficult to work with to those that don't know the truth. It makes me think, how many "difficult" actors are there that went through something similar but they don't want to be known as victims of more powerful people so they just accept being a "diva" or "difficult" to work with?
Notice how she looks down through the door for a while before falling. Do you think that in those 17 minutes, she was alive, staring at death in the face until it was too late?
I think it's very possible that that's how Bojack conceptualises it.
Sarah Lynn's reprise is a summarization of her whole life: Starting out innocently enough, rising in fame, turning high, and first reminiscing on the words 'Don't Stop Dancing'... before descending into madness and popularity, sexualized, objectivied, turned into a goddess, seeing her image everywhere; then, abandonment, silence, and loneliness, as well as the awareness of what awaited her.
She herself noted, at the end of her very first appearance in the show, how she would inevitably die young. The tragedy is, Sarah Lynn had been staring down at death in the face for even longer.
@@IAsimov damn, that's too much, man! ps you write beautifully, pls consider becoming a writer
Those 17 minutes were likely spent in a similar death hallucination. The difference is that Sara walked through the door.
@@omnipotentbanana1576 probably because she's acknowledging that it was her drug addiction which ended her early (heroin cuts off the oxygen to kill you) and also it cuts off before "till the curtain call" because even after her death she can't rest since her mom uses her fame and capitalizes off of it
He made up the song in his head both times
Strange coping method
So wait does that mean bojack imagined sarah lynn twerking
E zzy he did have sex with her before.
it could just be a song he's heard before
but he could've imagined different lyrics
Screw acting he should be a song writer
Category: *C O M E D Y*
*DARK DARK COMEDY*
AHA
pain
Haha?
have you seen planned obselescence? goddamn that shit is good comedy
Lets just say this cOmEdY made my life a lot different
The hands on Sarah Lynn’s shirt gave me chills. She wore the same outfit to Herb’s funeral, but it was also implied that her stepfather molested her when she was little. That whole sequence was just haunting.
Yes! I also noticed that. Although I think the outfit was all black in the funeral, it's the same design.
No wonder it looked so familiar
And worse is her mother tells her to stop making lies about her stepdad
@@hadbetterdays8118 since when? When was that stated?
It was also implied when she said I know what bear fur tastes like......her stepdad’s a bear.
Before Sara Lynn fell through the door, she said “don’t stop dancing-“ she never finished the whole line/chorus: don’t stop dancing till the curtains calls” indicating that she ended the line early and also her life ended too early
"The decision to have Sarah Lynn fall through the door before ending the line with “‘til the curtain call” reinforces that, even in her death, Sarah Lynn is still 'dancing.’ Her mother continues profiting off of her, even capitalizing off of her death with ads like “I’d die for a Pepsi!”
BoJack helped start all of this, the regret that has this song playing in his mind again. He’s become powerless to stop it."
Determinism is Freedom 🤙
She also held her breath before falling through the door. Heroine kills you by cutting off your oxygen.
@@FlailSnail222 yes! it’s such a great detail i also remember seeing someone say that shes the only one who stares into the abyss before jumping bc it symbolises her waiting to be saved for those 17 minutes that bojack was in the parking lot it’s all just very sad :(
Nah you're def reading too much into it
if there's anything musical theater has taught me, it's that reprises are bound to make me cry
Just save your strength and stay alive.
all of them are sad, involving death or trauma. i have yet to hear a reprise that is happy.
@@sparkles7111 "The Story of Tonight (Reprise)" from Hamilton is a happy/fun one!
@@umhellabella No! anything but that!
(edit) Oh wait I forgot there were 2 reprises of that song lmao, I was thinking about the Laurens one
@@umhellabella and then there's stay alive reprise
Sarah Lynns last line in the whole series is Don't Stop Dancing....
Hey, that's what Bojack taught her when she was a kid, and apparently she took it to heart
Timmah ! No it’s actually NHUUUUUUU *plugs nose*
Not really because this is a hallucination
I wanna be an architect.
Sérgio Almeida and that’s what Beatrice taught Bojack. The cycle continues
This song the second time is truly terrifying this episode f me up
Especially when she stares blankly into the abyss.
I am glad I am not the only one omg
Me too. I had nightmares about it
I just got caught up and finished all the episodes and I’m so haunted by this episode.
Episode fucking broke me
"A song you taught me when I was small,
Dont stop dancing, dont stop dancing"
Meanwhile she stares at the abyss...
That image tears at my soul
Because she’s still part of the conversation in Hollywoo, she hasn’t stopped. Might be why she sings curtail call, which is the beginning of the play, rather than curtain falls, which is the end of the show.
Someone pointed it out.
She was waiting for bojack to save her in those 17 minutes (part where she stares at the abyss) and then she stopped breathing ( part where she held her nose) and finally decided to let go as she would still live on in the world
I'm upset.
Stephanie Beatriz is a gem. No wonder why she got casted as Mirabel for Encanto. Her voice is so beautiful, and the song is catchy. On the other hand, from the perspective of Sarah Lynn, it just makes me cry. Her whole life was a public show and even when she died, everything was so public. I love this show.
@@weirddd469 she is also Rosa in Brooklyn 99 and Carla in In the Heights where she sings a lot more in the movie
I was wondering why her voice sounded familiar.
@@mase5995 and now I think she’s in smth else new idk what it’s called 😭
Isn't she also that one girl from bobs burgers and voices Mable as well?
@@Makarovlover100 thats kristen schal
Every body is talking about Sarah Lynn, but nobody's talking about how Gina can actually sing.
I think she received too short notice and picked a song that doesn't work for her voice when she sang for Flip and PC
Wait wasn't her version a hallucination because of opiods
I think the voice actor of Gina is in the new movie in the heights
@RC X Yeah I don't understand Flip and PC's reaction whatsoever, I think that's sorta the point
I love how her VA sang in a Disney movie after that
Sarh Lynn holding her nose right before diving into the darkness reminds me of her first scene, where we see her depicted as Ophelia; she drowns - not in water, but from the pressure.
Zoe Quinn oh shoot! Hi nice profile picture
@@Jay-rz4ke dam I was very hoping she say “ditto” as repliance : |
That Ophelia painting was a nice piece of foreshadowing. Ophelia's death is collateral damage of Hamlet's story, just like how Sarah Lynn is the collateral damage of Bojack's
She was also staring into a void that makes her life look insignificant just like how she died. She died looking at space as Bojack talks about being in the moment.
Also with heroin overdoses you actually die by suffocation cos you stop breathing, so her holding her breath is accurate to how she died. Making it even more chilling
One thing to also notice is in ginas version, she refers to life ending as the curtains falling, but Sarah Lynn refers to it as the curtain call. If you’ve ever participated in a school play or anything of that nature, you’ll know curtain call is when all the actors come out on stage and take a bow, it technically happens after the show is over (I.e. the curtain falling) I think of this as performing until people see the real you, not the character you put on every day to make people think you’re put together. This is what Sarah Lynn does her entire life. Instead of living genuinely until the show is over, she performs until her true messy self outweighs the image she displays. Just a neat thought.
It could also be about how in Sarah Lynn's case, she's still just as much a topic of rumours and sensationalism even after her death as she was before.
So she hasn't stopped dancing, even after the curtains fell.
something that also confirm this is that is possible hear a cround clapping in 3:44
I like to think it's, because, in a way, the view from halfway down *is* a curtain call for all the dead characters
@@pikachuboladaum5944 This is a neat thought, and pretty smart to connect the two, but I'm pretty sure that's just the sound of the backdrop falling back into place
Another thing I noticed is sarah lynn's version says "old sport" instead of "my friend".
"Old sport" is Gatsby's catchphrase in The Great Gatsby, and Gatsby ends up dying in his pool after getting shot. Not too far fetched to call it a reference?
I love how this song is sung by the two women he screwed up the most. Sarah lynn and Gina deserved better....
I really don’t like how Gina got shafted a little. Was the choking incident EVER brought up when he kept spilling the beans?
@@thefreelancequeen omg, I'm actually disappointed and livid about that, we never even get to see gina at all for the rest of the finale..I'm guessing it was rushed due to show ending :/
I have mixed feelings with Gina’s ‘ending’. I wanted the reporters to find out what happened and expose it. I wanted Gina to open up about it and heal. But it was her decision not to tell anything and I am glad that BoJack and the creators respected that and didn’t bring it up again. Because it also reflects a very sad truth.
And I am even more happy that they let us know that Gina got the part for Fireflame. She deserves everything.
@@plushpg1380 it wasnt much, but she acted in Fireflame. It shows her on a sign in the background.
@@thefreelancequeen in one of the last episodes there's a billboard that shows Gina became the lead of that female superhero movie! Very small detail but it's gives us something
Just realized that Gina is dressed like Judy Garland, an actress who was abused and driven to drugs by Hollywood, in her “Get Happy” number 😟
Also, pretty sure Judy was the actress who played Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, which kinda parallels Sarah Lynn to some extent...
I think the original song was supposed to be a parody of Mein Herr from Cabaret.
@@ThePanicPuppet Gina says it during her number
polyopoly Judy garland was also the mother of Liza Minnelli, the movie Sally
The original "Don't Stop Dancing" reminded me of House when Cuddy was drugged up and they were singing a cover of "Get Happy."
this show is one if those rare masterpieces that will never be forgotten
Cem Sakalli not by its fans, no.
But this show is a really rare show to see people talk about and i think it will fate out of the public contiouns, but atleast for us, we will know: there is always more show.
This and Leftovers.
Something tells me that unfortunately it will be forgotten. I've been telling people how great this show is, but I'm afraid it will still be overshadowed by shows like Breaking Bad and GoT.
And I'm sad about that.
@@unowen7591 it's also a tough sale... Specially season one people look at it without knowing anything about it and will just think, oh animal family guy...
I can confirm this. I’ve been trying to get my dad to watch the show, but he can’t get into it. I keep trying to tell him to just keep watching and then he’ll be hooked.
“And you don't think you have power over women.”
Even his own mother................
@@warhorse5152 well his mom poisoned him
@@hadbetterdays8118 she poisoned hollyhock
@Autumn Potato When she was an elderly woman with dementia, he literally had power over her for that time, because he had executive rights as her closest remaining relative while she was not sound of mind. He could literally do anything he wanted with her that wasn't illegal.
I like that the show made the distinction that someone being antagonistic to you doesn't mean a power imbalance doesn't exist.
Everyone that Bojack hurt that way he saw it as him reacting to them making the first move (Gina took his pills, Beatrice drugged Hollyhock, Penny and Sarah Lynn went to him first for guidance/affection), none of that makes what he did OK and that's part of owning your own shit.
@@jjj7790 No one said that those things make it OK.
And his mom did have a lot of power over him, even when she had dementia, she was capable of saying one line and completely ruining him, even when she died she had a lot of power over him "I C U" fucked him up for a while after her death, so yeah.
I legit thought this was the last episode and that’s why theme song always ends with Bojack falling in a pool
I miscounted while I was watching through and thought for sure that this was the last one. I was pretty sure that there were supposed to be eight new episodes and I was on episode eight.
Same
Wonder if the creator had that attempted suicide planned the whole time
@@qctye I mean, there were multiple occasions where Bojack attempted. Twice by drowning and one by letting go of the wheel while driving on the highway.
It's really crazy that the intro started the way bojack was meant to end. They planned it out from the start...
Bojack did a lot of bad things but the worst thing he ever did was stealing a meal from Neal Mcbeal the navy seal
In Bojack's defense you don't leave muffins in the produce section, I'd think they just decided they didn't want them. Who leaves muffins in the produce section and assumes that it is an indicator of dibs?
@@Emerly He had implied dibs
@@happyscientist7939 He didn't even put the muffins in a cart. He just left them out there. Look, I don't want to get into a whole thing here.
@@Emerly He. had. dibs.
Can't believe Biscuits didn't bring this up in the interview. I guess they don't want such sensitive information on live Tv.
Original: A great bop that is just entertaining
Reprise: Still a bop but with tears
Zooer welcome to Musical Theatre!
That's the normal nature of reprises
except the original was terrifying as well, considering... the context.
Yeah I'm sorry, what? The original was horrifying
First one hit me like a ton of bricks tbqh
When Sarah Lynn cut Bojack's apology off, it's such a small detail that maybe ssys a lot. We find out later this is all just in Bojack's head as he's drowning, so why have her cut him off in the one moment he can finally talk to her, even if it's in his own head? Deep down, he probably realizes it doesn't matter. He's apologized to people he's hurt countless times, thinking that will solve things, but it doesn't. It won't change that Sarah Lynn is dead, and it won't ultimately change how he feels about it. Deep down, he knows that's true with everyone he's ever apologized to. And he needs to sit and listen to someone he's hurt, someone he abandoned, without his defense mechanisms of interjecting or arguing or projecting or demeaning himself. He has to just watch, as part of the audience, instead of the performer that ultimately made and killed Sarah Lynn.
AGREED!!! Also, the way she says "this is MY time!" could be a parallel about how she tried to find her own legacy but it was not only way too short, but BoJack was the reason she's like that in general. He put pressure on her, he got her on that bender, he waited 17 minutes to get help.
It also suggests that Bojack believes he doesn't deserve the opportunity.
This also ultimately alligns with his last interaction with Herb before Herb's death. Bojack apologized to Herb, not to actually ammend what he had done in order for Herb to be angry at him, or even to just make Herb feel better about what had happened between them, but to make himself feel better because he had thought that Herb had little time left. He wanted to exaunerate himself of the guilt of what he did, while Herb's feelings were an afterthought. Then he was genuinely shocked and bewildered at the fact that Herb, of course, did not forgive him. He couldn't even understand how or why Herb couldn't forgive him, as if his actions hadn't essentially shot their friendship in the heart, and his apology was only there to watch as it bled out and died.
Herb not forgiving him is probably a huge moment that plays into why Sarah Lynn cut him off, as well as why in general, he feels him apologizing won't mean anything in the end. Because the first time he did try to apologize to somebody who he did genuinely hurt, he got the cold, raw truth, that apologizing doesn't just mean that everything is going to be okay.
I think Bojack is quietly aware of the in fact his narcissism got her killed so she herself cuts him off when he starts making the apology about himself
"I" should've protected you-
"Bojack, this is "my", time"
"Of course!"
Maybe he wants to feel he did right by her, by dedicating the attention he didn't give her when she was dying, the attention that could've saved her.
@@puppetpawssNot to mention, Herb was the only one not to get a performance, instead giving Bojack a reality check.
I love that it's Gina who's singing, she finally had a meaningful singing role and it's inside the mind of the guy she hates
Oh, man, I hate to admit it, but I didn't even notice it was the same song until now.
Bojack's mom forced him to sing that song for her friends back when he was a wee lad too.
@@cursingqbert Man......just when you think this show can't be anymore genius, I go and find that out. Damn.
SAME LOL
José Carlos Sánchez Méndez He sang the Lollipop song not this though? And this song is oddly specific to depression and showmanship?
SAME HOLY SHIT
“A song you taught me when I was small” just breaks my heart, Sarah was doomed from the start with all the bad role models around her
sarah lynns reprise made me beyond emotional
I actually got scared watching this part.
When Bojack realises in the view from half way down that he had drowned, he realised 17 minutes in.
he didnt drowned, he was still alive, he was drowning
So I actually had to check but it's like right on the second man holy shit that is an amazing observation and ironic given bojacks experiences relating to the number💀
@@menahilkhan4739 that's the point
@@menahilkhan4739Oh my fuckin GOD 💀💀💀💀💀
That's too much, man.
The whole bit about
“The chatter stops, the crowed departs” and just how everyone forgets all about you once you die. I had a moment when I first saw this
Jonas
“a song you taught me when i was small” flash back to bojack talking to young sarah lynn when she was under the table on the set of horsin around
WHY ARENT YOU DRESSED FOR SCHOOL PRICKLY MUFFIN?!
Flash forward to Bojack hiding under the same table near the end of the episode.
Watching these back to back... It's absolutely haunting.
Princessaur _ seeing them side to side really draws the parallels both have. With Bojack worried about something in the beginning to him being startled by the ending of the musical number. If episode 15 doesn’t get an Emmy I’ll be surprised.
@@Emerly I doubt it tbh. The academy doesn't respect animation whatsoever.
Pootis Power one can wish, even Adventure Time lost to the Simpsons and I was surprised about that.
Princessaur _ unfortunately that’s true, one can dream though.
@@Emerly the Emmys and other award shows are mostly rigged and rarely ever give awards to the great shows, they just give it to whichever rakes in the most money
3:17
oh my god i cant believe sarah lynn invented montero
Sarah Lynn walked so Lil Nas X could run.
Some say she's twerking on Satan as we speak. 😭
The creepiest thing to me is that the first time I watched The View From Hallway Down and I saw her sit at the piano I immediately thought about Gina's song, so when Sara Lynn said "life is a-" I had to pause it and just sit for a minute becuase how the hell did I know she was gonna sing that
hayhay gabahahahah i can imagine that feeling, too funny
hayhay
They’re both figments of his imagination.
@@charlieshek3465 yeah I mean that's obvious, I was just never thinking they'd revisit the song like this
hayhay
True dat
What do you mean? This came before the view from halfway down. Also, when did you see her on the piano? Again, she was already gone by the time the view from halfway down came
Is Sarah Lynn using “old sport” in her version of the song a reference to The Great Gatsby, where the main character dies in a pool much like how Bojack almost died?
yes, they made a gatsby reference way earlier in the series referring to the symbolism of the green light, but Bojack didn't know, so the person who mentioned it was like read a book
Nah, she just likes Dayshift at Freddy's
Also the author, F. Scott Fitzgerald, later became a failed scriptwriter and died in Hollywood of a heart attack in 1940.
Many of his works are similar to the The Great Gatsby portraying poor men getting the rich girl, much like the story of Bojack's parents.
No man, just some guy from the crew forgot and left the cup on the counter
OH SHIT
"You don't want that, for everything to be fine. How dreadfully boring" I felt that on so many levels. Sometimes I feel like I like to be depressed.
in some cases your brain sees the sadness as home but sometimes you gotta fake the happiness to convince your brain you're happy.
i cried for real. it feels like i can no longer separate myself from depression. without it, i feel like i'm nothing.
@@Luna-oh1cvGet help if you can. That shit will destroy you if you let it fester. I hope things get better for you soon.
It's because emotions can actually act as drugs on our brains
Anelkia Emotions are drugs...
Don’t stop dancing.... his mom didn’t stop dancing in ginas song until her coffin closed...
she also didn't stop dancing in "The view from halfway down" she was pulled into the abyss middance by crackerjack
yea, it's kind of what beatrice did her whole life, she never stopped, she never gave up like her mother, she got married and had a kid and did the things she needed to do and she was still unhappy, until she died
something i only just noticed is how the way Sarah Lynn’s song progresses represent the life she lived. At the start we see her playing the piano, her voice is soft- innocent. This represent her naïvety as she joined the show business. But as the beat drops and she goes down the pole it’s heavily auto tuned and uses a fast backing track. This, I assume, represents how she had no control of the velocity of her fame- how artificial her life became. The pole represents how sexualised she became, how she falls down the pole ultimately representing her downfall. I also thought it was interesting of how the piano starts on the floor and rises upwards as she speeds up- showing her rise to fame. Then the ending, empty, solemn. She was so alone at the end of her life, she had nothing, no one. The backing track is soft, but she isn’t controlling it- this represents her grasp on life is gone- the drugs have taken over, they control her life now. This was probs really obvious but I found it really cool.
I didn’t notice that at all
But now I have and I’m sad so that’s cool
Congrats to Bojack Horseman on The Emmy Nomination for The View From Halfway Down!!!
No way they got nominated I mean they deserve it a beautiful episode
Maadhav D Yep! The View From Halfway Down got the nomination for Outstanding Animation Program.
@@Emerly It was most definitely well deserved. Bojack Horseman is a damn roller coaster ride of a show. Like I didn't know what I was signing up for when I started watching.
I’m glad they got it. They definitely deserved it
Michael Thompson When it first came out and I saw the trailer, I thought it was gonna be another crude adult animation. I gave it a chance and powered through until “The Telescope.” Holy shit that’s when I realized that there’s more to this show than the slapstick corny humor it had in the episodes before that. Ever since then it’s been my favorite show that I’ve ended up showing people. It definitely deserves an Emmy after this last season with The View From Halfway Down.
Can you believe people watched through this entire show and never thought it deserved an Emmy? Mind boggling
I like how Sarah lynns reprise isn’t exactly sung in a sad ballad format. The beginning is slow, but gina’s definitely had the vocal upper-hand. Anyone who doesn’t know the context behind these characters wouldn’t be able to fully get the emotional impact of the reprise since it’s fueled by characterization. It doesn’t rely entirely on the music for an emotional reaction
In case anyone doesn't know, the outfit Gina wears in her version of the number is a replica of the one worn by Judy Garland in the number "Get Happy" from the 1950 movie Summer Stock. Garland famously sang and recorded the movie while going through an extreme depressive crisis she was only barely recovering from after an extended leave. She went back due to a combination of her own thoughts about completing the film, but also largely due to the heavy pressure of executives, a pressure she'd felt since she was 16. Judy Garland died at 47 of an overdose, supposed to be self-inflicted.
I like how the version for Gina is “when the curtains fall” because of her interest in musical theatre whereas the version for Sarah Lynn is “til the curtain call” because she was in an actual tv setting, just a cool little detail
not to mention the curation call is the end of the play/musical and Sarah Lynns life endend
(Gina) Original:
Life is a never ending show, my friend
A twisting turning ever bending show
The audience is everyone you know, my friend, leave them with smile when you go
You can bet that you’re a star, so don’t forget how fun you are
Get up there and give it your all
And don’t stop dancing, don’t stop dancing till the curtains fall
You are a rotten little cog, mon frère
Spun by forces you don’t understand
Living is a bitter, nasty slob mienn herr
Why not sell your sadness as a brand?
Take your face, and brush your mane, and find some place to cut your pain to portions we can buy at the mall
And don’t stop dancing, no you can’t stop dancing till the curtains fall (awe shucks!)
Today’s the day you got the spark to find a way to make your mark and get your tiny name on that wall
So don’t stop dancin, baby, don’t stop spinin’ don’t stop beltin’ buddy now we’re winnin’
Grief consumes ya but ya just keep grinnin’
The ache becomes ya and it’s just beginnin’
Don’t stop dancing, nothing certain but the curtain
Sarah Lynn Reprise:
Life is a never ending show, old sport; except the minor detail that it ends
The overtures a lifetime but the show is short
Here with all your family and friends
You run the race you blurt your lines, they put your face on shirts and shrines and giant signs a thousand feet tall
And don’t stop dancin, don’t stop dancin till the curtain calls
Shows are a never ending life of course,
A silhouette that stays when you are gone
What’s uses the struggle and strife old horse
End it and your legacy lives on
The chatter stops, the crowd departs, a needle drops, the music starts
A song you taught me when I was small- don’t stop dancing, don’t stop dancing
God bless you
its "mein", not "mienn".
*What use is the struggle and the strife*
Thanks
The only time Gina can actually sing is when Bojack is in a pill-induced hallucination
I'm sure Gina can sing but was given short notice and probably picked a bad song to sing
@@blaccnblu yeah, that scene always pissed me off because some of her notes actually sounded good. It wasn’t good as a whole but with some vocal training and a better song for her voice she’d be fine
She sounded alright she just wasn’t confident in it and bojack just pushed her with no notice which destroyed any confidence she had left since she failed.
@@Xxsorafan you look alright
@@charlesbenkley9940 🙄
Gina’s song has the line “don’t stop dancing till the curtains fall” which means she had the ability to stop after the shows were over. Sarah Lynn had the line “don’t stop dancing till the curtain call” and a curtain call is where the actors stay behind after the shows to talk to the fans, answer questions, etc. and It’s so depressing because it shows that Sarah lynn had to keep dancing all her life even after horsing around even though she wanted to be an architect.
Who cares if Bojack is having a complex mental breakdown after many traumatic moments under the heavy influence of drugs, the song is fire
My favorite part of the first sequence is how Gina is performing it like a Broadway musical, which was her dream to be in, and which Bojack feels guilty over for having pushed her to pursue. His subconscious is such a brutal critic; it's delicious irony and great attention to detail by the staff writers. I can't believe I missed it on my first go of it.
The change from “curtain’s fall” to “curtain call” really gets me. In the curtain call, you’re *still preforming.* The bows are rehearsed. You smile big and wide even though you’re probably exhausted and all you want to do is wipe off your stage makeup and crawl into bed. Even when it’s over, it’s not over, not yet. It ties back into how Sara Lynn sings about how fame outlasts life. You can stop dancing at the curtain call, but there’s still more to do
Also a very underrated line peoppe never talk about is the obvious yet terrifying line "Nothing certain but the curtain"
Nothing is obvious, except our death.
This is a weird thing to like, but I like that Sarah Lynn's voice is still very uh
Sarah Lynn
Skye even weirder when you watch gravity falls and BoJack Horseman
i just hear louise belcher.
@@stadbab Same xD
stadbab I think it’s the same actress
Supernxva_Kiki it is.
A fun, probably unintentional thing i just noticed. The amount of time from the door coming into view until Sarah Lynn jumps through it is almost exactly 17 seconds (perhaps a parallel to the 17 minutes she was on the brink of death before finally taking the plunge)
"Why not sell your sadness as a brand?"
Sad dog
i just noticed the number 17 appears to be a huge theme in this show
Penny was 17, Bojack waited 17 minutes until he decided to call an ambulance when Sarah Lynn overdosed in “That’s too Much Man!”, Bojack didn’t realize he was drowning 17 minutes into “The View From Halfway Down”
STOP POINTING THINGS OUT ITS MAKING ME SAD!
"Do you ever wonder what would have happen if you didn't take those 17 minutes?" jfc
Oh shit you remind me that
I love how this proves that Gina was actually cut out for Broadway, and was just nervous for the audition
The amount of self sabotage expressed in the first half, "You don't want everything to be fine, how dreadfully boring". it's actually worrying how relatable this part can be, it's depressing.
Can we just acknowledge the fact that Bojack subconsciously created both versions of this song
He should’ve wrote for broadway
"a song you taught me when I was small" will always give me chills
Sarah Lynn staring into the abyss and then the echo of her voice before she jumps still sends shivers throughout my entire body.
Note the "aw shucks" line, and remember that Gina's favourite musical is all about corn.
The most underrated part of this whole thing is Sarah Lynns costume design during her song.
The hands all symbolise different parts of her life, the sexual abuse form her step-dad, the way she was taken advantage of in the show business and her addiction.
And yet nobody points it out, even though it’s one of my favourite things in the show tbh..
i see how it represents abuse but you’re saying each hand represents something different? I could see if they all could represent all those things but they all look the same tbh
The call he had with Diane at the end left me in tears.. It reminded me of a time I tried overdosing and I just sat there wishing I had someone to call and it hurt a lot.
Edit: thank you everybody for your support :) without you guys I wouldn’t have the motivation for everyday triumphs like I do now. Thank you so much for all of your support ❤️❤️
I hope you're better, man
TheMineEmerald I am thankfully. I still struggle with the thoughts here and there but I talk to friends as much as I can and I haven’t attempted suicide in over a year now thankfully
@@honeybee3538 That's great to hear
i’m glad you’ve improved :)
gumshoe thank you :)
Sarah Lynn last line in the entire series was in bojack's head. "Don't stop dancing." Which is the mantra she lived her life by mostly thanks to Bojack. Her last line before she died was "I want to be an architect." A reflection of what she wanted to be, something, that in that episode, Bojack ignored.
“Find some way to cut your pain to portions we can buy at the mall” has always stuck with me. Those distressing lyrics paired with the upbeat music is just so haunting. Living is a nightmare, but you have to fake a smile and don’t stop dancing the whole way through
I can see that based on your Orel logo, you, (like myself), enjoy incredibly complex cartoons that are so, "fun" to watch, you just can't help but cry tears of "joy" after watching them.
Reprise of Don't Stop Dancing is my favorite song for Bojack. Creepy, and alluding to the problem of the entertainment industry all while maintaining the ominousness of it all.
I never realized until now how when Sarah Lynn's song twists into the trippier music, it's the same beat as her song 'Prickly Muffin' from Season 1.
That makes it even sadder and more depressing imo...
When i first saw this scene in "The View From Halfway Down" my first thought was that flashback to Bojack in Horsin Around where he told Sarah Lynn that no matter what, she can never stop dancing for the crowd. Forget which episode it was tho :/
Episode 3
@@Aden_Phoenix prickly muffin
Things I noticed in this video-
Don’t Stop Dancing (Original) 00:00
00:38 All of the people we’ve seen Bojack wrong in the series
00:45 Refrence to Sarah Lynn’s death in the planetarium
00:50 Bojack’s house, Bojack’s boat, the planetarium, Mr Peanutbutter’s old house, and the D from the Hollywoo sign Bojack stole for Diane
00:55 The show where Bojack’s letter to Secretariat was read (and where Secretariat gave the ‘don’t stop running’ speech)
1:08 Refrences to when Bojack took Beatrice’s doll, when Bojack slept with Charlotte’s daughter, when Sarah Lynn found the alcohol Bojack was drinking on-set when he was playing in Horsin’ Around, and when he stole Diane the D from the Hollywoo sign
1:15 Reference to when Bojack went to live in the Sugarman summer home
1:25 Refrence to when Bojack let go of the wheel whilst driving in a possible suicide attempt
1:35 Possible reference to the party where Beatrice met Butterscotch, and a reference to Beatrice’s death
Don’t Stop Dancing (Reprise) 2:12
2:18 Sarah Lynn is wearing an inverted version of the outfit she wore to Herb’s funeral, the hands could be a possible reference to the abuse she faced from her stepfather
3:18 The song turns from a calm piano to a remixed, pop-type song similar to the music Sarah Lynn made as a pop star
3:48 A reference to the time where Bojack talks to a younger Sarah Lynn about how ‘you don’t stop dancing’
4:05 Sarah Lynn holds her breath before jumping, possibly a reference to how a heroin overdose kills you by stopping your breathing (she also never finishes the last line, a possible reference to how her life was cut short)
Thank you for reading! This took so long so I hope someone appreciates this-
The amount of detail in the show is absolutely insane
In other words: “Don’t Stop Dancing” is BoJack’s ultimate “I Hate Myself” song.
Also, Sarah Lynn’s reprise has “old sport” instead of “my friend”, which could be a reference to Gatsby since he usually said old sport and drowned just like how Sarah Lynn took her last breath.
Also, when the pop bit ends, it represents the end of Sarah Lynn's pop career, with an empty silence standing in for the empty emotional state we first see her in, combined with her line "the chatter stops, the crowd departs".
Great work, old sport!
I love this homage to "Cabaret", thematically. This number seems heavily influenced by Sally Bowles' last song, "Cabaret", which is all about giving in to this lifestyle of self-absorption, addiction, and a never-ending chase after fame and success (which, in both this show and the musical, is never fulfilled and ends in misery or death).
If you watch this video 4 times in a row, that's about how long Bojack waited to call help for Sarah Lynn
I love the subtlety of Gina's outfit being the same of Judys Garland in the famous "get happy" performance from Summer Stock (1950). It is so thematically appropriate and meaningful considering the lyrics and Garlands life itself
When Sara Lynn said “don’t stop dancing” for the first time, my heart sank to my stomach.
The “View from Halfway Down” wasn’t excessively creepy, but it did have the right amount to make it terrifying. I just noticed the little details like the brick wall unexplainably opening for Sarah Lynn, and that the outlines of the windows around 3:12 are shaped like tombstones.
This episode scares the fuck out of me
Season 5 Episode 11: I'm the most disturbing episode of Bojack
Season 6 Episode 15 : Hold my beer
The fact that Sarah Lynn held her breath before she stepped out the door is absolutely brutal...
Now as much as the reprise is simply terrifying, I cannot be the only person who’s here because the original is a BOP
So glad they brought this song back for this episode. It will take a long time to recover from this one...
2:46 The term “old sport” is used here by Sara Lynn and also In The Great Gatsby, where Gatsby would usually address people “old sport. He was shot and his body fell into his pool. Which is like Bojack almost drowning in his own pool.
The references to Cabaret, aka the darkest musical I’ve ever seen are so good and so fitting
RAHHH the cabaret comparisons in this song (+ the reprise) an ESSAY could be written
Whenever i see sarah lynns reprise of this song i always notice how she never got to fully finish it. The full thing goes “dont stop dancing til the curtains fall/the curtain call” but she never says the end part with the curtains. Even after death shes not allowed to stop dancing and performing, her name and legacy will still continue on, theres never going to be a curtain call for her and thats so depressing :(
the fact that in reprise the lyrics changed from "til the curtains fall" to "to the curtains call" is SICK
3:40 - if you pause it here, you can see that Sarah Lynn's pose as she falls is the mirror image of a pose she struck in the "Prickly Muffin" music video (when it goes from the planetarium to the runway the first time).
Turns out someone WAS trying to take him down, and she succeeded.
They were perhaps referencing Angela Diaz since she did get rid of Herb bc he was caught "acting gay" and then she tried to get rid of Bojack's scenes from Horsin Around as well after everything started to come down for him (that's the reason why he relapsed and broke into his old home)
@@holographicgotlome5754 Actually I was referring to Paige Sinclair.
@@SaltpeterTaffy Oh you're right, ngl kinda forgot about her
I think the point is that he’s looking for someone trying to take him down, when really his biggest enemy is and will always be himself
@@jeniferjoseph9200 That Is the point of the scene in the context of that season, but it could also be stealth foreshadowing of the following season.
Sarah lynns line" bojack, its my time" while it makes me laugh, it seems like it's because Bojack wants her to be remembered for her own thing, not him.
And also, with the fact that the entire episode takes place in BoJack's mind, her subtle dismissal is a sign that he'll never be able to forgive himself for what he did to Sarah Lynn.
-ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ʀᴇᴀᴅɪɴɢ.
Wait at 1:42 she's dressed like his mom, dances backwards into the coffin and then she keeps dancing. I feel like there's some crazy symbolism I don't understand
I think it's because:
A- we know that Beatrice died in the series.
B- we know Beatrice was the one to tell Bojack, "Don't Stop Dancing", and the fake Beatrice in this song never stopped dancing
This song the second time chilled me. I'll understand why more when I process it more
How young her voice sounds when she says “a song you taught me when I was small” breaks me every time
"A song you taught me when I was small."
Sarah Lynn is directly telling BoJack that he taught her to be the way she was.
"grief consume you but you just keep grinning" god that hit me hard.
1:35 THIS SCENE RIGHT HERE is so unsettling and scary to me, i got terryfied when i was watching it
beatrice be groovin
I think it's interesting how Gina's line is "until the curtains fall" and Sarah Lynn's is "until the curtain call". The former seems to be more sudden, like the curtains will fall without warning, and since you'll never know when, you can afford to ever stop giving your all even if it drains you completely. Even though Gina sings this, I think it actually fits better with Sarah Lynn's life. Sarah Lynn herself however says "curtain call" indicating that you'll have some notice or warning for when things are about to end and you don't have to keep straining yourself forever. Since it's pretty likely that Gina will go on to have a normal life and death after the show, my best guess is that they mirror each other's lives and deaths, similarly to how they mirror each other with the lines "life is a never-ending show" vs "shows are a never-ending life".
I think something no one realises about this song is that both times it was in bojacks head, so he actually made it
I’d like to see if they ever make a spin-off and he’s sober and decides to make a musical including a version of this song that would be really cool I think
I wanted so bad for Bojack and all his friends to be happy. He was a teacher. Peanut butter finally got that crossover episode (loved that scene) I prayed for a happy ending. But man they added a whole emotional roller coaster a
The quickness at which Bojack backs down when Sarah Lynn reminds him that it’s her time to perform really struck me because even in his delusions performing comes first, before yourself, others, and before the relationships you have with anyone else