That's not important. I think it is fair and your right to voice concerns about things that you care about. What is more annoying is that everyone is misinformed and act like they know what they are talking about. We are f*cking arrogant and ignorant people.
@@yiklongtay6029 Yeah, I definitely agree. People should be able to speak on something even if not directly impacted. I think what I was getting at was by the nature of this scenario, if you're not involved you're not going to know everything and therefore be misinformed. Absolutely listen to those people, just take things with a grain of salt if it's exclusively people not involved
People on twitter will always find something to complain about. I think for this one the original girl who was complaining had valid points but it came down to a misunderstanding base of multiple assumptions she made. Because of Toast, Ludwig, and Charlie the t2 Valorant scene grew from 5k viewers to 50k+ I hope that he can do the same for this tournament and many others When I grew up I got to look up to a lot of players while playing the game that I really enjoy. I hope that for many girls these type of tournaments allow them to find people they can look up to and motivate them to be more involved in the competitive scene.
these extra viewers won't come back later on, they are only there to see their favourite content creators. Terrible excuse to screw over actual players who deserve a spot on a game changers.
I don't know what are the rants of that specific person about the DSG team, but Toast is right. It is a open qualifiers, and if that person was salty while saying that they take spots, then it means that either the person didn't have been accepted by any teams due to this person personality or people simply doesn't have any talents at all. Or maybe this person was simply a fame seeker.
She mis-read the tweet by Toast, she thought he was looking for a team GC full of pros, but he clearly said one pro to IGL 4 scrubs lol. Her mis-reading of the tweet she made a twitter thread criticizing DSG as a brand and org, when fact checked by Toast she played victim and deleted the tweet saying she's disappointed in the DSG brand and org. Later continued to double and triple down on her take and claims to have spoken to Toast through DMs.
@@aaba4614 you're referring to a tweet made by toast on march 15th but he actually made an initial tweet on march 7th that was also misinterpreted by that person as it was very ambiguous and did not promise anything.
@@lila9349 it’s literally a twitter post, he didn’t make an oath or promised anything, even if he did, people are allowed to change their minds especially concerning their OWN hard earned money. How are people holding that against him? That level of entitlement is just insane.
I saw on Twitter one dude who is friends with the OP say that if he isn't going to field a full professional squad, then why even try. He then later said that I'm not going to delete any of this even if I'm wrong because that would remove thousands of impressions. I regret the loss of my brain cells digging deeper into this situation.
I love the Idea. Been watching ttupperware for the last 3 days, and I have learned a lot, while having fun. Ruin has a (to me) very passive coaching style doing the scrims, thus I am hoping for a "sit in" stream of he's coaching sessions. But ttupperware has talked a little about how she tries to lead the team doing a match. Also ttupperware and TrulyTenzin's aim looks so smooth and slick, not at all how my aim looks like in game 😛
players/teams wanting to scrim dsg gc is actually beneficial for toast because if the opponent is really good, he has an opportunity to poach them since most teams are unsigned
His response to the backlash was such a good one. Gatekeeping an open qualifier tournament- especially when this team will only bring benefits to their league is so wierd and doesn't speak well about these people
these extra viewers won't come back later on, they are only there to see their favourite content creators. Terrible excuse to screw over actual players who deserve a spot on a game changers.
@@playz8538 that is such a terrible argument. How the hell do you expect a scene to grow without exposure? Yes, not all those views are going to stick but it still brought a lot of people's attention- especially those that didn't know it existed. Growth happens gradually- over time- that's why the exposure is important and this team bought it in truck loads. And what actual players you idiot? The girls were all immortal (one one ascendant)- all of them experienced players and if you did your research and looked up the avg ranks of the teams playing in the tourney- it's immortal. The min rank requirement was ascendant. You're argument is literal garbage. No one is owed or deserving a spot over anyone here
"In gaming, a scrim is a test match between two e-sports teams. Scrim is short for "scrimmage". Scrimmages are very common in other sports such as soccer or football in various forms and were therefore simply adopted into gaming."
Twitter + valorant = toxic wasteland… is what I’m getting at. I slowly see it unfold at the streamer awards. Scary stuff. The vocal minority are just soo loud and redundant as usual.
For me just look like jealousy, she wanted to be put in the spotlight and get some clouth. I love that he made a "streamers team" now more ppl will watch it, i would never watch this game without dsg team.
Being a tournament that's supposed to be about inclusion and equality for girl gamers in the gaming scene, the criticism is absolutly valid. 4 streamrs participating in a professional fps tournament for professional fps gamers is not the 'spirit' of the tournament. I do think the criticism should be on RIOT for allowing the team to compete and not giving the spot to another team with less clout and more unpriveleged than 4 big streamrs.
It’s an OPEN qualifier, what spot?! You can literally make a team today with your friends and apply to compete. Did you even watch the video, Toast literally say this.
The flip side is as he said, it’s an OPEN QUALIFIER which means you don’t need to be on a esports team to compete, plus there not much chance this team is gonna make it far so it actually gives toast time to scout other player who are unsigned to add to a actual GC team going forward. Plus toast had very short time to make up a team so he can’t really scout other players now, plus having big personalities playing will bring in more viewers, in turn bringing in more revenue and relevancy for other players, so actually it’s a win all round when you actually think about it, you can complain about streamers being involved but it’s dumb really because without them the games become irrelevant
As everyone else has pointed out. It's an open qualifier. Anyone can make their own 5 man squad and sign up. If she hasn't found a squad yet, she's the problem.
@@pauledwards6705 True it's a OPEN QUALIFIER WITH LIMITED SPOTS, anybody can apply and RIOT selects who they want to select that's why I said most of the blame is on RIOT. The revenue and relevancy argument is bad because IT'S a GC event not WOMEN'S LEAGUE as some people been calling it. You can't claim to be a movement for change and inclusion in gaming and for profit at the same time in this scenario.
When you watch clips about people responding to dumb people with a "Not friendly" attitude, then they are going to come off as not friendly. You would come off as not friendly in the same situation.
According to his friends, he is one of the most friendly and caring person they know. He just doesn't show it that much on stream but there's some occasions where he did show it
This feels like one of those things that most of the people being upset aren't involved/affected
a bunch of lefties lol
That's not important. I think it is fair and your right to voice concerns about things that you care about. What is more annoying is that everyone is misinformed and act like they know what they are talking about. We are f*cking arrogant and ignorant people.
@@yiklongtay6029 Yeah, I definitely agree. People should be able to speak on something even if not directly impacted. I think what I was getting at was by the nature of this scenario, if you're not involved you're not going to know everything and therefore be misinformed.
Absolutely listen to those people, just take things with a grain of salt if it's exclusively people not involved
Respect how much effort and research he puts in when making his decisions. So excited to watch the GC team play!
A combination of Jealousy and Gatekeeping
People on twitter will always find something to complain about. I think for this one the original girl who was complaining had valid points but it came down to a misunderstanding base of multiple assumptions she made.
Because of Toast, Ludwig, and Charlie the t2 Valorant scene grew from 5k viewers to 50k+
I hope that he can do the same for this tournament and many others
When I grew up I got to look up to a lot of players while playing the game that I really enjoy. I hope that for many girls these type of tournaments allow them to find people they can look up to and motivate them to be more involved in the competitive scene.
these extra viewers won't come back later on, they are only there to see their favourite content creators. Terrible excuse to screw over actual players who deserve a spot on a game changers.
@@playz8538 It's an open tournament, they didn't screw over anyone. Anyone can join.
I don't know what are the rants of that specific person about the DSG team, but Toast is right. It is a open qualifiers, and if that person was salty while saying that they take spots, then it means that either the person didn't have been accepted by any teams due to this person personality or people simply doesn't have any talents at all.
Or maybe this person was simply a fame seeker.
She mis-read the tweet by Toast, she thought he was looking for a team GC full of pros, but he clearly said one pro to IGL 4 scrubs lol. Her mis-reading of the tweet she made a twitter thread criticizing DSG as a brand and org, when fact checked by Toast she played victim and deleted the tweet saying she's disappointed in the DSG brand and org. Later continued to double and triple down on her take and claims to have spoken to Toast through DMs.
@@aaba4614 you're referring to a tweet made by toast on march 15th but he actually made an initial tweet on march 7th that was also misinterpreted by that person as it was very ambiguous and did not promise anything.
@@jimmydoesstuff_ Since there was an obvious clarification, the point still stands.
@@lila9349 it’s literally a twitter post, he didn’t make an oath or promised anything, even if he did, people are allowed to change their minds especially concerning their OWN hard earned money. How are people holding that against him? That level of entitlement is just insane.
@@Box-box Like you said…it’s Twitter what did u expect?
I saw on Twitter one dude who is friends with the OP say that if he isn't going to field a full professional squad, then why even try. He then later said that I'm not going to delete any of this even if I'm wrong because that would remove thousands of impressions. I regret the loss of my brain cells digging deeper into this situation.
I love the Idea.
Been watching ttupperware for the last 3 days, and I have learned a lot, while having fun.
Ruin has a (to me) very passive coaching style doing the scrims, thus I am hoping for a "sit in" stream of he's coaching sessions.
But ttupperware has talked a little about how she tries to lead the team doing a match.
Also ttupperware and TrulyTenzin's aim looks so smooth and slick, not at all how my aim looks like in game 😛
players/teams wanting to scrim dsg gc is actually beneficial for toast because if the opponent is really good, he has an opportunity to poach them since most teams are unsigned
I kinda doubt that many people will watch the GC Open qualifiers if there is no streamer in it
toast is too nice i'd do into this convo calling everyone stupid, because they are
Same I’d be so pissed getting shit on for such a crazy reason
His response to the backlash was such a good one. Gatekeeping an open qualifier tournament- especially when this team will only bring benefits to their league is so wierd and doesn't speak well about these people
these extra viewers won't come back later on, they are only there to see their favourite content creators. Terrible excuse to screw over actual players who deserve a spot on a game changers.
@@playz8538 that is such a terrible argument. How the hell do you expect a scene to grow without exposure? Yes, not all those views are going to stick but it still brought a lot of people's attention- especially those that didn't know it existed. Growth happens gradually- over time- that's why the exposure is important and this team bought it in truck loads. And what actual players you idiot? The girls were all immortal (one one ascendant)- all of them experienced players and if you did your research and looked up the avg ranks of the teams playing in the tourney- it's immortal. The min rank requirement was ascendant. You're argument is literal garbage. No one is owed or deserving a spot over anyone here
Are they the bench players or what does this means?
Can someone explain to me what are scrims, is it just practice matches against other teams?
"In gaming, a scrim is a test match between two e-sports teams. Scrim is short for "scrimmage". Scrimmages are very common in other sports such as soccer or football in various forms and were therefore simply adopted into gaming."
practice match against other teams in order to try out new strats in a pro setting
Lily is coming for QuarterJade's spot.😂
You can say you love your country and people on twitter will still find a reason to complain about it
"I love my country."
"So you hate other countries then?"
-Twitter
Twitter + valorant = toxic wasteland… is what I’m getting at. I slowly see it unfold at the streamer awards. Scary stuff. The vocal minority are just soo loud and redundant as usual.
When entitled people see others get/do something, they always automatically assume they deserved it more.
i started watching valo games because of Toast and will only because of STREAMERs!
For me just look like jealousy, she wanted to be put in the spotlight and get some clouth. I love that he made a "streamers team" now more ppl will watch it, i would never watch this game without dsg team.
another case of twitter kids feeling cuking entitled
😮
Just another gatekeeper trying to gatekeep there spot/special feeling. Nothing new here unfortunately.
People will always be bitching 😂
Women just love pulling other women down
Being a tournament that's supposed to be about inclusion and equality for girl gamers in the gaming scene, the criticism is absolutly valid.
4 streamrs participating in a professional fps tournament for professional fps gamers is not the 'spirit' of the tournament.
I do think the criticism should be on RIOT for allowing the team to compete and not giving the spot to another team with less clout and more unpriveleged than 4 big streamrs.
It’s an OPEN qualifier, what spot?! You can literally make a team today with your friends and apply to compete.
Did you even watch the video, Toast literally say this.
The flip side is as he said, it’s an OPEN QUALIFIER which means you don’t need to be on a esports team to compete, plus there not much chance this team is gonna make it far so it actually gives toast time to scout other player who are unsigned to add to a actual GC team going forward. Plus toast had very short time to make up a team so he can’t really scout other players now, plus having big personalities playing will bring in more viewers, in turn bringing in more revenue and relevancy for other players, so actually it’s a win all round when you actually think about it, you can complain about streamers being involved but it’s dumb really because without them the games become irrelevant
Allowing them to play Sounds like inclusion and equality to me. You're cancelled
As everyone else has pointed out. It's an open qualifier. Anyone can make their own 5 man squad and sign up.
If she hasn't found a squad yet, she's the problem.
@@pauledwards6705 True it's a OPEN QUALIFIER WITH LIMITED SPOTS, anybody can apply and RIOT selects who they want to select that's why I said most of the blame is on RIOT. The revenue and relevancy argument is bad because IT'S a GC event not WOMEN'S LEAGUE as some people been calling it. You can't claim to be a movement for change and inclusion in gaming and for profit at the same time in this scenario.
To be honest I not really a fan of toast I just feel like the vibes he gives are not really friendly..
Thats cool, as long as you're not hating unnecessarily. I feel like some people just want to hate just because they can
As a fan let me tell you that’s just his online personality. His friends say otherwise
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When you watch clips about people responding to dumb people with a "Not friendly" attitude, then they are going to come off as not friendly.
You would come off as not friendly in the same situation.
According to his friends, he is one of the most friendly and caring person they know. He just doesn't show it that much on stream but there's some occasions where he did show it