I work in Yellowstone and have responded to a few bear spray accidents. I actually called UDAP and discussed what to do if someone is sprayed, Per UDAP, the number one thing: DO NOT flush with water. Because it is an oily base, water just moves the pepper around and exacerbates the sting. The best thing to do is fan the skin with as much air as possible. I recall one time, we were in the ambulance returning from a call and got a call for a bear spray incident. The dispatcher said the victim's help were flushing with water and it appeared to be getting more painful. The EMT with me had experience . She was trying to relay STOP RINSING. We were a good ways away so it took us about 10 minutes to arrive. When we got to the scene the victim was in misery. We told everyone to stop rinsing and fan her with whatever they could to create a breeze. In just a few minutes she was standing up and feeling much better. As for a gun - Bob- Thank you for your information. I have the exact same conversation numerous times per summer. No way are you going to deploy your gun and accurately shoot at a charging bear. You will just piss it off. I used to shoot on a pistol team in the Marines. It was challenging enough to accurately hit a stationary target. Having seen grizzlies go from still to full speed, I could not believe how fast they move. Can't imagine trying to hit a charging bear in the right spot to stop it.
Totally agree with you. First of you’d have to use a high caliber gun but the most important thing is that it’s very difficult because they’re extremely fast. The best thing is to be extremely careful with food as to not attract them to begin with.
@@georgewagner7787 if a bear box is provided store it in it, if you can’t then keep everything as free of food smell as possible, don’t cook inside, wash dishes as soon as possible, cover the cooler, they know what they’re for and might brake in if they see it. Their sense of smell is way higher than a bloodhound.
A bear box is pretty well fool proof. However, in my 7 summers as a ranger I have never heard of a bear getting into a hard sided camper. I’ve actually had black bears underneath my 5th wheel with no issues. I’ve had grizzlies close by but no issues. Leaving any source of food outside is big no-no. Night patrols will reprimand over items outside.
@@georgewagner7787 always change your clothing...I have an RV and my dogs can smell things in plastic containers, bags, etc. Put food in the fridge...Get Bear Spray and if you need to use it be aware of the direction of the wind, so you don't spray yourself. Also, don't show your teeth to a bear, like smiling, because they take showing teeth as a threat.
I guess it seem to say that maybe caring a gun with a charging bear might be better than taking a chance with bear spray and the unpredictably of the wind. Because if the wind is not blowing towards the bear, bear spray is not going to work.
I always imagined that bear spray emitted a stream that would shoot 30 feet. That fog seems potentially deadly, and not to the bear. Thanks Bob, out of all the outdoors experts on TH-cam, you're the first that has done a demonstration/test.
When out on the trail you should wear a bell to alert the bears that you are in the area, and carry pepper spray. Inspect any poop on the trail to determine if it is a bear poop. The easiest way to tell if the poop is from a bear is because is smells like pepper and has bells in it.
And pepper spray / bear spray hurts even more. The boot camp gas chamber training is no joke-- I was the last one out of the chamber in my group and I thought I was gonna pass out and die lol.
Wow, that looked painful. I hope you had a speedy recovery. It is very helpful to see that the wind could mean I incapacitate myself instead of the bear.
I hike and mountain bike and camp in the mountains in bear country all of the time, and carry bear spray, and almost skipped this video because I thought I knew everything. And I still learned a lot. Thank you.
Excellent advice Bob. Most bears can run at 30 mph or a little more. 30 mph=44 feet/second. So a bear 44 feet away can be on you in a little over 1 second. (allowing for acceleration from a standing start.) The numbers get worse if it is only 20 feet away or even 10 feet. Almost no time to react and use a defensive weapon and certainly no time to stop and learn how that weapon works before using it. People should be very familiar with whatever weapons they decide to carry and this takes preparation and practice. Safe travels Bob, thanks for taking one for the team in your demonstration.
I always knew the wind is a factor with this spray and bears are my greatest fear. I went hiking in Great Rocky Mountains and I was afraid the whole time about what might be around the corner and what's coming from behind me. That experience caused me to make the decision to just stay away from places that have bears. Thanks Bob. I pray that your recovering from that spray was swift.
We love you too Bob. And you don't ever have to get bear spray in your face to prove that you love us. ❤ I learned... "Safety First" put on some personal protective equipment while testing bear sprays and pepper sprays and pay close attention to which way the wind is blowing. 👍🏻 That stuff really burns. Thanks for sharing Bob and CRVL Crew. Take care everyone. Love, Taupey ❤🐈⬛❤
Wow. Thank you, Bob, for the lengths you go to help us. None of us were prepared for you to go that far, but we did learn the sad truth about sprays. I hope you found some aloe or milk and were out of pain shortly after you quit filming. Love from Ohio
Very informative Bob, Thank you for taking one for the team. I wonder what could happen to a person that was alone on a hike and not in there camp, the person may not have much water with to flush there eyes & face very well, also breathing in much of this may trigger a real emergency for people who have breathing conditions, there is always so many variables of things that we may not be able to control. Thanks again Bob for all you all do to educate folks getting into, or are already living there lives on wheels as a nomad.
I'm glad you're OK, Bob! Yikes! If you're face to face with a mountain lion, they are usually just being defensive, & you can usually work your way out, if you're not threatening cubs. Runners & bikers are often attacked because they resemble prey at those speeds. Cougars are ambush predators & will surprise attack from behind. Juveniles whose mothers were killed before they were old enough to be taught how to hunt are more likely to attack humans & domesticated animals. Cougar hunting laws don't take into account the 18 months to 2 years that cubs are still dependent, but fully weaned. I've seen 3 cougars in my day, & they mostly just want privacy. Bears, I've only seen black bears in the wild, & never had a problem. I make noise to let them know I'm around. I live in bear country, & one broke into a stored RV, stole the cat food, exited out the same screen window it came in, & politely ate it in the driveway. Amazed it didn't do more damage. Polite bear 🐻 😊. We learned where NOT to store the cat food, & never had a problem again. I will not report any animal unless it's exhibiting signs of serious illness. It is my responsibility to live respectfully & design for wildlife resistance. I know how to protect chickens & small herds of ungulates. I think people who move into land with non-native domesticated species & their main response is to kill all the native predators are the real 'snowflakes' & should move to the city. Wolves are about to be reintroduced on 2 sides of the ag valley where I live, & I am going to volunteer to help with non-lethal livestock protection. I've worked with wolves in sanctuaries & seen them in the wild. I love them, & am concerned for them, & I'm also concerned for the small family farmers... not so much big industrial operations. .... well, I certainly went off on a tangent. 🤪
This was just what I needed. I carry wasp spray and an air gun. Mostly for human danger. I am in black bear country and have been for years. The air gun startles them and warns other people in the area. Thanks for the demo. Good to know. Enjoy the rest of the summer❤️
Best way to avoid an attack is situational awareness. That bieng said I always have my dog with me and they are a good indicator letting you know something is there when you don't. Prefer to use my voice and size along with a barking dog and that works phenomenally well. Always carry my 10mm with me everywhere I go. Spent all my free time in predator country and haven't had a problem yet.
I always hike with my dog and have never seen a bear while hiking. Maybe its scent scares the bears off or maybe I've been lucky. What worrys me is if my dog and I cross paths with a bear, she may run at the bear and then if the bear charges her, she may run back toward me with the angry bear following close behind.
OMG Bob, That is going way above and beyond. Please be careful. Hope you are feeling better. Really appreciate you showing all of what you went thru. The pepper blaster seems to be the safest. I'll be sure to stay away from those aerosol repellents.
Bob!!!!! You are beyond awesome suffering for your art and us!!!!! I hope you are fully recovered! That pepper gun looks awesome for all kinds of self defense!!
Hahaha! I've enjoyed so much beautiful, philosophical talk on this channel. Bob has also given some great practical wisdom, but I don't recall ever getting into self defense quite so heavily. The discussion went from a 1 to a 10 really quickly when the threat of feral dogs came in, lol. Interesting to learn that they are evidently a relatively high probability risk.
Damn! Thanks for taking one for the team, Bob! I think this video was extremely powerful to show what CAN happen. Folks need to know what they’re using, practice, understand how to help yourself after getting hit with the spray, and have realistic expectations when using it. Learned a LOT!! Thanks, Bob! We feel your love! ❤️
I am so glad no permanent harm was done to your eyes. Thank you for sharing and willing to go all out for your subscribers. To show what could happen was good to find out. I know that was unexpected.
If you ever buy and carry any pepper spray, you should also buy and carry Sudecon wipes. For exactly the reason shown in this vid. It neutralizes the effects.
I used to work with essential oils a lot for myself years ago (for personal health reasons). My point being is that I had gotten essential oils of Pine and Peppermint in my eyes... Both happened at different times. Once in a restaurant, the waitress suggested I open up the mini HALF and HALF on the table and pour it into my eyes (Whipping cream and heavy cream works, too, I later found out). I puzzledly looked at her and she reassures me it'll be fine. So anyway, I did that and felt *IMMEDIATE RELIEF!* I have been a convert ever since.👍😊 In case anyone is wondering, this wasn't a regular occurrence. The experience/memory was so impacful, though, that I had to share! This also works if you're cooking with with hot sauce(s) and it accidentally gets in one of or both your eyes. The "secret?" It is the MILKFAT that coats and SOOTHES the eyes from that pesky burning! It really helps! In these experiences, I remember trying water. In comparison, there is no match for the half and half. I learned a new level of meaning for that expression, "Oil and water DO NOT mix!" Lol!... It was so true for MY eyeballs! Thank you Bob, et al, for all of your creativity and wisdom you share!
Note that Bob was still functional after accidentally getting sprayed. I’ve been maced, and other than aggravating me and blurring my vision, it was no big deal. Never think that having bear spray will make you invulnerable. If it’s a larger, older bear, especially a big brown bear, you may just aggravate it.
Ouch .. An unfortunate incident 😥😥 Thank you for a very informative and now, personal experience of the various protective sprays .. FYI, power milk, pudding or oatmeal is handy and Great for pepper spray burns .. Pray for a quick recovery 🛐🕊🕎
Great video and demonstration, Bob. I didn’t laugh at all, honest… You did raise an excellent point about wind direction there, though - could make a bad situation worse. The extremely bright flashlight is a good defence against a human attack at night. If you can blind the person with it they won’t see your foot coming up to hit them in the groin real hard. The tears in the eyes will take over the blinding effect so you can make your escape and maybe add a blow to the head beforehand. 👍🏻
@@MapleMarmite Have you ever gotten close to someone who shines a flashlight in your eyes? When you get close enough, you can see their feet and leg and arms and head. The beam of the flashlight is much smaller at close range. Draw it on paper and you will see.
In my state it's illegal to buy either pepper or bear spray. However, what you CAN buy is hornet spray, and I put a straw on it for the very reason of blow-back. It shoots it out in a stream so you can also see exactly where it's going, with very little chance of the wind blowing the fog back at you. Thank you for the demo, it was very informative, I'm only sorry you had to get sprayed while doing it!
@@CommonCentsOutdoorsman that would be a good idea if I found someone willing to be a test subject! Just doing the best I can in a state that doesn't allow personal protection. But I do have other items for protection also
Please do a video just on bears. As someone who carries both bear spray and a gun in grizzly country, I'd also like to very much know the situations in which you do recommend a gun. Thanks!
I have heard, from hunters, that gunshot attracts bears, the bears have learned that gunshot = free kill steal, the bears will steal the hunters kill if the hunter isn't fast enough.
OMG Bob! That was awesome and I appreciate you putting it all out there and laughing about it (b/c it was really funny!). I am actually really appreciative to see how these work as I never would have known (or thought about the wind or waiting till a bear is THAT close),
Milk works WAY better than water at neutralizing pepper. Learned this from a friend's Mexican roommates. Took my first bite of their chili, and it was like putting molten lava in my mouth! As I was reaching for my glass of water, they both yelled "NOOOOOOO", but too late. I gulped the water, and now my esophagus was burning as well. One of them ran to the fridge, and poured me a glass of milk. Instant relief! Finished the chili with a sip of milk after each bite. LOL!! For what it's worth. 🙂
oh BOB!!! We wouldn't have seen that anywhere else. you really go the extra mile by leaving that in. I felt so bad for you! Thank you, thank you! And yes, you are amazing! We already knew that!
You always say "I hope you got something out of this" i did, sure it was a smile and a chuckle but that's as good as a person can ask isn't it? to bring Joy. Thanks Bob, Much Love, good info too, id prefer the Kimber pepper blaster 2 also after that experience.
I carry bear spray in black and grizzly country. The experts that spend a lot of time in bear country consider a 10mm hand gun carried in accessible holster as the only true quick defense. If you use bear spray there is a chance it will fail or get you and diminish your operating efficiency.
@Wonderin'Aloud These are guides, hunters, locals and other people that spend time in bear country. Just Google the subject and you will get all kinds of real live stories of preferred carry and encounters. Just as you saw with Bob, drift, reach, and spray time and failure is something to consider. Firearms do not have this problem if you have preparer yourself with practice.
I carry both bear spray and a 10mm hand gun when in grizzly country. I'll use the bear spray first but as I have seen many times the spray has its problem. In that case I have a backup.
Alright Bob! I remember I borrowed my sister's car, and she had OC spray on her keys. Well I was driving on I95 and I touched the canister. I didn't know it was leaking and I scratched my eye. Oh my God! Trying to get off I95 while blinded by OC spray was no joke! I can relate to you misting Bob. No fun! Funny story years later though.
I know in most or at lease many states it's illegal to use bear spray on people. but if I'm in the position where I need to use it I'm willing to take that risk. I decided a long time ago that bear spray would be my weapon of choice the other options have too much risk like jail time for hand guns is certain states. Keep the good stuff coming Bob.
Oh Bob, that's one heck of a less on about the bear spray. I have that same spray - UDAP. My can is very old. I should get a new one! I have a holder, but not a harness. A harness is a good idea! I'm glad you left in the part that you got hit by some of the spray, some good lessons there. Like what's the best treatment for eyes and skin if this happens. My guess would be flush with water, just like you did! Glad you had someone there to help. Sorry it hurt YOU so much. We don't want to lose our Bob! Hope you're fully recovered by now. Good health and happiness to you!
Bob, I love you man, but you just proved why a gun is probably a better option - wind is a tremendous factor - with a bullet at the distance where you are forced to use either a gun or spray, I'm pretty sure the bullet will not come back and hit me and second, with a gun you have at least six shots - if not more. Even if you have multiple cans - your succes rate in using the spray was 50%. As far as deployment, the first time you demonstrated using the spray, you fumbled a little and the second time I could not tell how fast you were because the cut was right before you pulled the tab. It did look fast in either case, but I can deploy my holstered weapon and have it pointed just as quickly because I practiced - and I do carry it loaded, but with one smooth motion I can pull it out and click off the safety as I pull it to aim. Both of these choices require respect and familiarity with the chosen tool. A can of bear spray is about 40 dollars, a gun that carries the appropriate caliber is way more, but it is a one time purchase and the bullets you need are 2 dollars a piece. A gun gives me more peace of mind. I carried bear spray until I obtained a weapon. I recently got rid of the spray because I don't even want to try it out - because of the wind. Also, when I aim my gun, I don't have to look away. I think bear spray is an alternative to those who are not comfortable with guns - there is a lot to learn about how to use it effectively and for some, it could be a very bad tool to use when a bear is charging you. For me, the thought of fumbling with the safety clip and aiming a spray that could disable me as well makes me not want the spray.
I keep a POM pepper spray on me at all times. It's not a fogger, but a direct spray, so I can bless the deserving with the hot sauce. Easier to do with a 10 second spray. Oh, and I've heard that milk is more effective for stopping the burn from pepper spray.
I think you so much at least now I feel a lot safer. I’m sorry you got hurt. You have such a kind heart. And if I was in my rig that was because of what I would use to help my getaway
I like the turn and get my butt into my Van method. I’ve never had a run in although my dog kept me from going back to my van by the time we returned there was a mountain lion checking us out but it had been circling my van.
A woman took on a mother bear and her cubs in the 2nd season of "Alone", and won. After watching your video, I think I`ll stick to my guns. If I go to Yellowstone, then I will take pepper spray, because guns are illegal there. I can draw and fire as fast you can, and if someone is breaking into my trailer, pepper spray will take me out worse than it did you. The woman on Alone. She had a loud horn and she did not back down at all.
LifeLite makes a pepperball launcher that is also a flashlight. Flip a switch and it is ready to launch. Also has a laser so you can't miss. Range is supposed to be 60 ft. Carries 5 shots propelled by a CO2 cartridge. It claims that all you need to do is just hit close to the subject and it disables the target. Has a heck of an impact making a big smacking sound.
Bob, once while at work, unbeknownst to me, my coworker sprayed a tiny bit of pepper spray in the trash can to “see what it would do”. We were coughing, hacking, eyes and nose burning just like you said … I was saying to her OMG WHAT IS THIS?!?!? Then she said, well what had happened was …. LOL seriously. Don’t try this at home!!!!!
If you get blowback on you the way I heard in security training on what to do is to wipe with a dry cloth (wet ones can spread the spray) and apply Ketchup to the skin. The sugar in the Ketchup will help bring the burn down on the skin. If it gets in your eyes after you wipe down with your face with a dry cloth, take a clean fresh wet cloth with cold water, put it to your eyes and blink.
When you got some of the blow back the first thing I was saying is "don't rub it in!". Your towel, sleeve, hands, beard, face, eyes, nose, all had that stuff on them when you touched your eyes with them. So all you were doing was making it worse and causing it to spread to whatever else you touched. It gets in your mucous membranes and goes to town.
So, living in Montana, people have used it in the visitor center in Yellowstone National Park. Some people also think it's preventive, like bug spray. Carry a couple things in the wild. I keep a Bowie knife hiking or at least a box knife everywhere. A couple of us have pistols. I watch "Sharing The Wild" in Canada, and he keeps something like a flare gun that makes a loud noise because you can only have so many rounds for hunting.
This is an important demonstration. People never deploy spray until it is life or death, depending on a weapon they've never fired. I suppose one lesson learned is to not put your life on the line with a weapon you've never used. This demonstration is like a practice session.
You flush your eyes by lying down with your head slightly turned and rinse from the bridge of the nose out. This prevents rinsing it into the other eye.
So what we learned is that a mild breeze can not only misdirect a bear spray away from the target, but you can wind up incapacitating yourself. Meanwhile, the grizzly is considering should he serve you with lentils or sauce béarnaise. .50 cal handgun is standard issue for Alaska F&W field personnel. Yes, they will stop a grizzly. Even one that has French cuisine on its mind.
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"Leave it on". That's dedication right there.
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I work in Yellowstone and have responded to a few bear spray accidents. I actually called UDAP and discussed what to do if someone is sprayed, Per UDAP, the number one thing: DO NOT flush with water. Because it is an oily base, water just moves the pepper around and exacerbates the sting. The best thing to do is fan the skin with as much air as possible.
I recall one time, we were in the ambulance returning from a call and got a call for a bear spray incident. The dispatcher said the victim's help were flushing with water and it appeared to be getting more painful. The EMT with me had experience . She was trying to relay STOP RINSING.
We were a good ways away so it took us about 10 minutes to arrive. When we got to the scene the victim was in misery. We told everyone to stop rinsing and fan her with whatever they could to create a breeze. In just a few minutes she was standing up and feeling much better.
As for a gun - Bob- Thank you for your information. I have the exact same conversation numerous times per summer. No way are you going to deploy your gun and accurately shoot at a charging bear. You will just piss it off. I used to shoot on a pistol team in the Marines. It was challenging enough to accurately hit a stationary target.
Having seen grizzlies go from still to full speed, I could not believe how fast they move. Can't imagine trying to hit a charging bear in the right spot to stop it.
Totally agree with you. First of you’d have to use a high caliber gun but the most important thing is that it’s very difficult because they’re extremely fast. The best thing is to be extremely careful with food as to not attract them to begin with.
How do you do that when you need food in your camper?
@@georgewagner7787 if a bear box is provided store it in it, if you can’t then keep everything as free of food smell as possible, don’t cook inside, wash dishes as soon as possible, cover the cooler, they know what they’re for and might brake in if they see it. Their sense of smell is way higher than a bloodhound.
A bear box is pretty well fool proof. However, in my 7 summers as a ranger I have never heard of a bear getting into a hard sided camper. I’ve actually had black bears underneath my 5th wheel with no issues. I’ve had grizzlies close by but no issues.
Leaving any source of food outside is big no-no. Night patrols will reprimand over items outside.
@@georgewagner7787 always change your clothing...I have an RV and my dogs can smell things in plastic containers, bags, etc. Put food in the fridge...Get Bear Spray and if you need to use it be aware of the direction of the wind, so you don't spray yourself. Also, don't show your teeth to a bear, like smiling, because they take showing teeth as a threat.
This demonstration and Bob’s injury was sooooo important to show what can happen. Thank you for leaving in the content.
Funny thing: I just got a dose of my own medicine this morning when I was trying to chase a coyote away with bear spray. Not fun!
Shows you should carry a gun a bullet will not blow back into your face blinding you then you get eaten by the bear
I guess it seem to say that maybe caring a gun with a charging bear might be better than taking a chance with bear spray and the unpredictably of the wind. Because if the wind is not blowing towards the bear, bear spray is not going to work.
I always imagined that bear spray emitted a stream that would shoot 30 feet. That fog seems potentially deadly, and not to the bear. Thanks Bob, out of all the outdoors experts on TH-cam, you're the first that has done a demonstration/test.
Yeah, I thought it'd be more like wasp/hornet spray, which is like a stream or jet of spray.
I read that bear spray is less irritating to humans than it is to bears. Pepper spray is harsher than bear spray.
When out on the trail you should wear a bell to alert the bears that you are in the area, and carry pepper spray. Inspect any poop on the trail to determine if it is a bear poop. The easiest way to tell if the poop is from a bear is because is smells like pepper and has bells in it.
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Boot camp tear gas training taught me everything I needed to know about efficacy of tear gas. Thanks, Bob!
Bob for president!!!
And pepper spray / bear spray hurts even more. The boot camp gas chamber training is no joke-- I was the last one out of the chamber in my group and I thought I was gonna pass out and die lol.
My high school hallways taught me first.
Wow, that looked painful. I hope you had a speedy recovery. It is very helpful to see that the wind could mean I incapacitate myself instead of the bear.
I hike and mountain bike and camp in the mountains in bear country all of the time, and carry bear spray, and almost skipped this video because I thought I knew everything. And I still learned a lot. Thank you.
Excellent advice Bob. Most bears can run at 30 mph or a little more. 30 mph=44 feet/second. So a bear 44 feet away can be on you in a little over 1 second. (allowing for acceleration from a standing start.) The numbers get worse if it is only 20 feet away or even 10 feet. Almost no time to react and use a defensive weapon and certainly no time to stop and learn how that weapon works before using it. People should be very familiar with whatever weapons they decide to carry and this takes preparation and practice. Safe travels Bob, thanks for taking one for the team in your demonstration.
I always knew the wind is a factor with this spray and bears are my greatest fear. I went hiking in Great Rocky Mountains and I was afraid the whole time about what might be around the corner and what's coming from behind me. That experience caused me to make the decision to just stay away from places that have bears. Thanks Bob. I pray that your recovering from that spray was swift.
Bob, thanks for the info and your honesty-we gain from your mistakes! Bear spray is expensive, so it’s good to know its limitations.
We love you too Bob. And you don't ever have to get bear spray in your face to prove that you love us. ❤
I learned... "Safety First" put on some personal protective equipment while testing bear sprays and pepper sprays and pay close attention to which way the wind is blowing. 👍🏻 That stuff really burns. Thanks for sharing Bob and CRVL Crew. Take care everyone.
Love, Taupey ❤🐈⬛❤
Wow. Thank you, Bob, for the lengths you go to help us. None of us were prepared for you to go that far, but we did learn the sad truth about sprays. I hope you found some aloe or milk and were out of pain shortly after you quit filming. Love from Ohio
Very informative Bob, Thank you for taking one for the team. I wonder what could happen to a person that was alone on a hike and not in there camp, the person may not have much water with to flush there eyes & face very well, also breathing in much of this may trigger a real emergency for people who have breathing conditions, there is always so many variables of things that we may not be able to control. Thanks again Bob for all you all do to educate folks getting into, or are already living there lives on wheels as a nomad.
I'm glad you're OK, Bob! Yikes!
If you're face to face with a mountain lion, they are usually just being defensive, & you can usually work your way out, if you're not threatening cubs. Runners & bikers are often attacked because they resemble prey at those speeds. Cougars are ambush predators & will surprise attack from behind. Juveniles whose mothers were killed before they were old enough to be taught how to hunt are more likely to attack humans & domesticated animals. Cougar hunting laws don't take into account the 18 months to 2 years that cubs are still dependent, but fully weaned. I've seen 3 cougars in my day, & they mostly just want privacy.
Bears, I've only seen black bears in the wild, & never had a problem. I make noise to let them know I'm around. I live in bear country, & one broke into a stored RV, stole the cat food, exited out the same screen window it came in, & politely ate it in the driveway. Amazed it didn't do more damage. Polite bear 🐻 😊. We learned where NOT to store the cat food, & never had a problem again. I will not report any animal unless it's exhibiting signs of serious illness. It is my responsibility to live respectfully & design for wildlife resistance. I know how to protect chickens & small herds of ungulates. I think people who move into land with non-native domesticated species & their main response is to kill all the native predators are the real 'snowflakes' & should move to the city.
Wolves are about to be reintroduced on 2 sides of the ag valley where I live, & I am going to volunteer to help with non-lethal livestock protection. I've worked with wolves in sanctuaries & seen them in the wild. I love them, & am concerned for them, & I'm also concerned for the small family farmers... not so much big industrial operations.
.... well, I certainly went off on a tangent. 🤪
Thanks for suffering for us Bob. Great info.I hope you are doing ok.
I find the leg pocket in cargo pants better than a chest holster for bear spray. The spray is always right where your hand is when walking or hiking.
This was just what I needed. I carry wasp spray and an air gun. Mostly for human danger. I am in black bear country and have been for years. The air gun startles them and warns other people in the area. Thanks for the demo. Good to know. Enjoy the rest of the summer❤️
Ha! When you said air gun, I was thinking like air soft, and those don't make much noise. You mean like an air horn can.
Please don't use wasp spray on bears or dogs. It's a toxic substance. Bear spray is a non toxic deterrent.
Best way to avoid an attack is situational awareness. That bieng said I always have my dog with me and they are a good indicator letting you know something is there when you don't. Prefer to use my voice and size along with a barking dog and that works phenomenally well. Always carry my 10mm with me everywhere I go. Spent all my free time in predator country and haven't had a problem yet.
Absolutely agree.
I always hike with my dog and have never seen a bear while hiking. Maybe its scent scares the bears off or maybe I've been lucky. What worrys me is if my dog and I cross paths with a bear, she may run at the bear and then if the bear charges her, she may run back toward me with the angry bear following close behind.
Excellent safety video. Side note: Avoid using bear spray in a tent. That situation is where a gun comes in handy, IMO.
OMG Bob, That is going way above and beyond. Please be careful. Hope you are feeling better. Really appreciate you showing all of what you went thru. The pepper blaster seems to be the safest. I'll be sure to stay away from those aerosol repellents.
Thanks for sharing! My husband and I have been tent camping for months.
Bob!!!!! You are beyond awesome suffering for your art and us!!!!! I hope you are fully recovered! That pepper gun looks awesome for all kinds of self defense!!
Hahaha! I've enjoyed so much beautiful, philosophical talk on this channel. Bob has also given some great practical wisdom, but I don't recall ever getting into self defense quite so heavily.
The discussion went from a 1 to a 10 really quickly when the threat of feral dogs came in, lol. Interesting to learn that they are evidently a relatively high probability risk.
Damn! Thanks for taking one for the team, Bob! I think this video was extremely powerful to show what CAN happen. Folks need to know what they’re using, practice, understand how to help yourself after getting hit with the spray, and have realistic expectations when using it. Learned a LOT!! Thanks, Bob! We feel your love! ❤️
I feel your pain. We all had that happen to us in boot camp. It does burn.
Bob we appreciate oh your blood sweat and tears for this community!!💞🙏
Thank you SO MUCH!!! I've been looking for self defense items...for either camping or when at home!
Oh Bob!!! Yes you do care about us! Bless your heart, and your face and eyes!!!❤️❤️❤️
I just bought some and camped alone in the Rockies with Blue 🐶Thanks for the great demo Bob! You’re dedicated lol
I am so glad no permanent harm was done to your eyes. Thank you for sharing and willing to go all out for your subscribers. To show what could happen was good to find out. I know that was unexpected.
Milk is a great neutralizer for Pepper/Bear Spray!
It's also good for Skunk spray
Thanks much BOB for all your sincere real time Do's and Don'ts keep making videos. One for the team.✌️
Bob you are such a dedicated guy! I sure hope to meet you one day! I have learned a lot from you!!
We love you, Bob. Don't hurt yourself.
Bob you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem & smarter than you think
Thanks for taking one for the team, Bob! Hope you can see now.
If you ever buy and carry any pepper spray, you should also buy and carry Sudecon wipes. For exactly the reason shown in this vid. It neutralizes the effects.
This stuff is illegal to bring into Canada.
Gosh, it hurt me to see Bob hurting!
Bob, thank you for doing the demonstration and sharing ideas on how we can be safe.
I used to work with essential oils a lot for myself years ago (for personal health reasons). My point being is that I had gotten essential oils of Pine and Peppermint in my eyes... Both happened at different times. Once in a restaurant, the waitress suggested I open up the mini HALF and HALF on the table and pour it into my eyes (Whipping cream and heavy cream works, too, I later found out). I puzzledly looked at her and she reassures me it'll be fine. So anyway, I did that and felt *IMMEDIATE RELIEF!* I have been a convert ever since.👍😊
In case anyone is wondering, this wasn't a regular occurrence. The experience/memory was so impacful, though, that I had to share!
This also works if you're cooking with with hot sauce(s) and it accidentally gets in one of or both your eyes.
The "secret?" It is the MILKFAT that coats and SOOTHES the eyes from that pesky burning! It really helps!
In these experiences, I remember trying water. In comparison, there is no match for the half and half.
I learned a new level of meaning for that expression, "Oil and water DO NOT mix!" Lol!... It was so true for MY eyeballs!
Thank you Bob, et al, for all of your creativity and wisdom you share!
Note that Bob was still functional after accidentally getting sprayed. I’ve been maced, and other than aggravating me and blurring my vision, it was no big deal. Never think that having bear spray will make you invulnerable. If it’s a larger, older bear, especially a big brown bear, you may just aggravate it.
Ouch .. An unfortunate incident 😥😥
Thank you for a very informative and now, personal experience of the various protective sprays ..
FYI, power milk, pudding or oatmeal is handy and
Great for pepper spray burns ..
Pray for a quick recovery 🛐🕊🕎
Bob, I'm so sorry you were injured in this demonstration. And, I'm grateful for the demonstration because I learned allot.
cracking me up Bob. thanks and cheers . go have a beer.
Great video and demonstration, Bob. I didn’t laugh at all, honest… You did raise an excellent point about wind direction there, though - could make a bad situation worse. The extremely bright flashlight is a good defence against a human attack at night. If you can blind the person with it they won’t see your foot coming up to hit them in the groin real hard. The tears in the eyes will take over the blinding effect so you can make your escape and maybe add a blow to the head beforehand. 👍🏻
Who wants to get close enough to hit someone in the groin? Besides, if you were that close they could see you. Geesh.
Read it again. They are attacking you. In the dark. Flashlight in their eyes = they can no longer see you. 🙄
@@MapleMarmite Have you ever gotten close to someone who shines a flashlight in your eyes? When you get close enough, you can see their feet and leg and arms and head. The beam of the flashlight is much smaller at close range. Draw it on paper and you will see.
I think there are special flashlights that are made to disorient attacks, not a regular one
In my state it's illegal to buy either pepper or bear spray. However, what you CAN buy is hornet spray, and I put a straw on it for the very reason of blow-back. It shoots it out in a stream so you can also see exactly where it's going, with very little chance of the wind blowing the fog back at you. Thank you for the demo, it was very informative, I'm only sorry you had to get sprayed while doing it!
Have you tested hornet spray? Doesn't seem to stop humans let alone bears. I would do some research before relying on that.
@@CommonCentsOutdoorsman that would be a good idea if I found someone willing to be a test subject!
Just doing the best I can in a state that doesn't allow personal protection. But I do have other items for protection also
THANKS, BOB! FOR THE BEAR SPRAY VIDEO, YOU DEMONSTRATED THAT IT REALLY WORKS, THE HARD WAY! THIS IS A GREAT HANDS-ON VIDEO! THANK YOU, AGAIN!
Thank you Bob 😊 for the important information. And bless you for actually putting yourself in a factual position.
Please do a video just on bears. As someone who carries both bear spray and a gun in grizzly country, I'd also like to very much know the situations in which you do recommend a gun. Thanks!
I have heard, from hunters, that gunshot attracts bears, the bears have learned that gunshot = free kill steal, the bears will steal the hunters kill if the hunter isn't fast enough.
Thanks that was awesome. You are very caring and we learn so much from all your videos.
OMG Bob! That was awesome and I appreciate you putting it all out there and laughing about it (b/c it was really funny!). I am actually really appreciative to see how these work as I never would have known (or thought about the wind or waiting till a bear is THAT close),
Milk works WAY better than water at neutralizing pepper. Learned this from a friend's Mexican roommates. Took my first bite of their chili, and it was like putting molten lava in my mouth! As I was reaching for my glass of water, they both yelled "NOOOOOOO", but too late. I gulped the water, and now my esophagus was burning as well. One of them ran to the fridge, and poured me a glass of milk. Instant relief! Finished the chili with a sip of milk after each bite. LOL!! For what it's worth. 🙂
oh BOB!!! We wouldn't have seen that anywhere else. you really go the extra mile by leaving that in. I felt so bad for you! Thank you, thank you! And yes, you are amazing! We already knew that!
You always say "I hope you got something out of this" i did, sure it was a smile and a chuckle but that's as good as a person can ask isn't it? to bring Joy.
Thanks Bob, Much Love, good info too, id prefer the Kimber pepper blaster 2 also after that experience.
That last one, the Kimber, is my preference! Thank you Bob! Please take care and have a quick full recovery!! We need you buddy!!
Bob ain't playing with that knife.... Love it.....
I carry bear spray in black and grizzly country. The experts that spend a lot of time in bear country consider a 10mm hand gun carried in accessible holster as the only true quick defense. If you use bear spray there is a chance it will fail or get you and diminish your operating efficiency.
@Wonderin'Aloud These are guides, hunters, locals and other people that spend time in bear country. Just Google the subject and you will get all kinds of real live stories of preferred carry and encounters. Just as you saw with Bob, drift, reach, and spray time and failure is something to consider. Firearms do not have this problem if you have preparer yourself with practice.
I carry both bear spray and a 10mm hand gun when in grizzly country. I'll use the bear spray first but as I have seen many times the spray has its problem. In that case I have a backup.
Alright Bob! I remember I borrowed my sister's car, and she had OC spray on her keys. Well I was driving on I95 and I touched the canister. I didn't know it was leaking and I scratched my eye. Oh my God! Trying to get off I95 while blinded by OC spray was no joke! I can relate to you misting Bob. No fun! Funny story years later though.
I know in most or at lease many states it's illegal to use bear spray on people. but if I'm in the position where I need to use it I'm willing to take that risk. I decided a long time ago that bear spray would be my weapon of choice the other options have too much risk like jail time for hand guns is certain states. Keep the good stuff coming Bob.
I tell you if this doesn't go viral I'm going to be upset...... Bob you're awesome and you do care so so much. THANNS BROTHER
Thanx for this video. As a youngster we were taught that the gun is for people and the spray is for the wildlife.
Thanks Bob for your sacrifice
Oh Bob, that's one heck of a less on about the bear spray. I have that same spray - UDAP. My can is very old. I should get a new one! I have a holder, but not a harness. A harness is a good idea! I'm glad you left in the part that you got hit by some of the spray, some good lessons there. Like what's the best treatment for eyes and skin if this happens. My guess would be flush with water, just like you did! Glad you had someone there to help. Sorry it hurt YOU so much. We don't want to lose our Bob! Hope you're fully recovered by now. Good health and happiness to you!
Informative video Bob. I hope you healed quickly.
As far as attacking animals a small machete may also work well. Legal in states where pepper spray isn’t-if it’s tricky for you to get.
I learned to stay upwind of a bear today. Thanks Bob. 😁
Awesome info, boy I wish I could go on a hike with Bob
Yes, Bob. Please do a bear safety video. That is one of my fears.
You can make your own pepper spray. My tip use oil not water, it's harder to remove.
Thanks for all you do for us
All good Bob.... hope to see ya down the rd!
Bob, I love you man, but you just proved why a gun is probably a better option - wind is a tremendous factor - with a bullet at the distance where you are forced to use either a gun or spray, I'm pretty sure the bullet will not come back and hit me and second, with a gun you have at least six shots - if not more. Even if you have multiple cans - your succes rate in using the spray was 50%. As far as deployment, the first time you demonstrated using the spray, you fumbled a little and the second time I could not tell how fast you were because the cut was right before you pulled the tab. It did look fast in either case, but I can deploy my holstered weapon and have it pointed just as quickly because I practiced - and I do carry it loaded, but with one smooth motion I can pull it out and click off the safety as I pull it to aim. Both of these choices require respect and familiarity with the chosen tool. A can of bear spray is about 40 dollars, a gun that carries the appropriate caliber is way more, but it is a one time purchase and the bullets you need are 2 dollars a piece. A gun gives me more peace of mind. I carried bear spray until I obtained a weapon. I recently got rid of the spray because I don't even want to try it out - because of the wind. Also, when I aim my gun, I don't have to look away. I think bear spray is an alternative to those who are not comfortable with guns - there is a lot to learn about how to use it effectively and for some, it could be a very bad tool to use when a bear is charging you. For me, the thought of fumbling with the safety clip and aiming a spray that could disable me as well makes me not want the spray.
I haven't tried this but I think you use milk to ease the pain of pepper spray. So...OK...who wants to try!
Its called taking one for the team. God Bless.
I keep a POM pepper spray on me at all times. It's not a fogger, but a direct spray, so I can bless the deserving with the hot sauce. Easier to do with a 10 second spray. Oh, and I've heard that milk is more effective for stopping the burn from pepper spray.
I think you so much at least now I feel a lot safer. I’m sorry you got hurt. You have such a kind heart. And if I was in my rig that was because of what I would use to help my getaway
Ann
Noble Sacrifice 🙏🏼😇🏆👍🏼🇺🇸🌹💋🏜️💖💚🤣😂 Seriously Bless and Thank You🥰
I like the turn and get my butt into my Van method. I’ve never had a run in although my dog kept me from going back to my van by the time we returned there was a mountain lion checking us out but it had been circling my van.
OMG! Someone help Bob! He’s a National Treasure! 🙏
A woman took on a mother bear and her cubs in the 2nd season of "Alone", and won. After watching your video, I think I`ll stick to my guns. If I go to Yellowstone, then I will take pepper spray, because guns are illegal there. I can draw and fire as fast you can, and if someone is breaking into my trailer, pepper spray will take me out worse than it did you. The woman on Alone. She had a loud horn and she did not back down at all.
LifeLite makes a pepperball launcher that is also a flashlight. Flip a switch and it is ready to launch. Also has a laser so you can't miss. Range is supposed to be 60 ft. Carries 5 shots propelled by a CO2 cartridge. It claims that all you need to do is just hit close to the subject and it disables the target. Has a heck of an impact making a big smacking sound.
Well that was fun , Thanks bob i needed a good chuckle.
Thanks for sharing your safety video.
Thank you Bob . !! I've always heard use MILK not water. The best spray seems to be the last one blasted ! Thanks again
Thank you for your service, Bob!❤️🩹
Bob thanks for this one , I hate it back fired on you ! You do go all out trying to show people different things .
Bob, once while at work, unbeknownst to me, my coworker sprayed a tiny bit of pepper spray in the trash can to “see what it would do”. We were coughing, hacking, eyes and nose burning just like you said … I was saying to her OMG WHAT IS THIS?!?!? Then she said, well what had happened was …. LOL seriously. Don’t try this at home!!!!!
If you get blowback on you the way I heard in security training on what to do is to wipe with a dry cloth (wet ones can spread the spray) and apply Ketchup to the skin. The sugar in the Ketchup will help bring the burn down on the skin. If it gets in your eyes after you wipe down with your face with a dry cloth, take a clean fresh wet cloth with cold water, put it to your eyes and blink.
When you got some of the blow back the first thing I was saying is "don't rub it in!". Your towel, sleeve, hands, beard, face, eyes, nose, all had that stuff on them when you touched your eyes with them. So all you were doing was making it worse and causing it to spread to whatever else you touched. It gets in your mucous membranes and goes to town.
So, living in Montana, people have used it in the visitor center in Yellowstone National Park. Some people also think it's preventive, like bug spray. Carry a couple things in the wild. I keep a Bowie knife hiking or at least a box knife everywhere. A couple of us have pistols.
I watch "Sharing The Wild" in Canada, and he keeps something like a flare gun that makes a loud noise because you can only have so many rounds for hunting.
This is an important demonstration. People never deploy spray until it is life or death, depending on a weapon they've never fired. I suppose one lesson learned is to not put your life on the line with a weapon you've never used. This demonstration is like a practice session.
Wow Bob! Thanks for the demo. Hope your face has stopped burning. ❤
You handled that really well I think most people would be running around screaming after being pepper sprayed. Give us an update on your eyes
You flush your eyes by lying down with your head slightly turned and rinse from the bridge of the nose out. This prevents rinsing it into the other eye.
Oh my gosh BOB I’m so sorry you got the overspray. 💜💕🦋 thank you for the video. ✌️
So what we learned is that a mild breeze can not only misdirect a bear spray away from the target, but you can wind up incapacitating yourself.
Meanwhile, the grizzly is considering should he serve you with lentils or sauce béarnaise.
.50 cal handgun is standard issue for Alaska F&W field personnel. Yes, they will stop a grizzly. Even one that has French cuisine on its mind.
Above and beyond demo. Thanks Bob...............
Thank you so much Bob for this vid.
Wow great video. See you on the road my friend
This morning I heard Johnny Knoxville from jackass say that pepper spray is 100 times worse than an electric taser.
I think I’m just going to hike with slower people. I don’t have to outrun the bear I just have to outrun my companion lol.