@@carlos41519 Probably not, but it does cover multiple options though. Even if the falcon airdodged sheik can def still follow up with back air or something. Or if they tried immediate up b it would obviously just get bonked.
I'm actually so mad atm, I let an assignment go overdue, skipped a group presentation, and an online final exam to see Gimr's tech showcase, and if after all this it doesn't happen today I'm going to be so pissed. Actually don't know what to do with myself right now
it’s really hard to say; this is a system level tech so every character gets to use it; unless you *somehow* already know who benefits from it, and how much, you really can’t know where sheik ends up in the tier list just from watching what it does for sheik specifically
@@Sprocket_777 Its pretty much stated in the japanese version of OOT than Sheik is a he (because of magic) That was completly lost on the traduction, and they changed Sheik gender in smash 4
@@anonyme4881 Sheik was no longer magically a boy in Smash Brawl either. Regardless of what was implied in OOT’s manga, her design from Brawl was taken from Twilight Princess where she would have been tied more to Zelda just like her appearance in Hyrule Warriors. Furthermore, her initial introduction was to be shrouded in mystery but she was always Zelda therefore always female.
@@gourilla9381 No, its way more than just the manga. (BTW Nintendo manga never give a fuck to the original material) In the original OOT, Japanese version, Sheik use the most mainliest way possible to describe oneself. There is no single "I" in japanese language. There are actually tons of way to say to say "I" in japanese. Like 64 page of way to say I in a japanese language books Some are female only, some are man only, some are mainly male, some are mainly female, and lots are neutral. Sheik wasnt using one of the mostly male way to say "I" like 99,9999999% of crossdressing/tomboy/trans female character in manga/anime/videogame use, Sheik was using a man only way to say "I" And its noteworthy because EVEN BOYS dont use the male only way often. All shonen manga boys use a mostly male variant for exemple Thats what started the whole debate to begin with. An outsider translating it would just think of it as "oh well, Zelda is just in a guy disguise so she use male pronom. Anyway its "I am Sheik" anyway" Someone who knows about Japanese tradition would know that there are tons of pronom for real crossdressing girl that tons of male use. Add the fact that Sheik official portrait in OOT got a way different physics than Zelda that would be impossible without magic and the fact that Sheik is written as a different personnality. (Mainly pec and muscle for the physics) Either way both gender are fine. Just a funny note of trivia and to point out that there are valid argument to say Sheik is a guy in OOT
Nah, there are a ton of more punishes or you could just jump back and reset neutral, you don't have to stay there forever, people already knew that when Light pressure you in the corner for just holding shield.
@@patrickburton1401 Like what? Any grounded move needs +12 frames tacked on so shield can drop. Spot dodge will be hit unless you wait with it, but that just puts you back in the loop without changing anything. Can't footstool out of shield with this. You're going to have to parry and react, roll backwards, or get a hard read to best this. No more braindead grabbing out if shield or spot dodge spamming. No more unga bunga up smash out of shield either.
Slingshot up air drag down into up smash on battlefield is sick. I've seen a similar slingshot back air drag down loop with pichu. Seems really broken.
Void do you use Port Forwarding on your router? Nintendo has a guide on it. Most people recommend ports 45000-65535 to be opened for the game to not lag online.
This tech reminds me of just a aerial wavedash, just help with overall movement you never really have to put overself in a disadvantage I would have just named is AWD for aerial washdash
The way to counter is tech is just to callout their jump timing mixup I like the tech because it makes the buffer system feel like shitty, and remember to can also.hold up back with will help a charter like Terry and get turnaround up air with can can get a true follow up of so
Except it's not an "aerial wavedash" at all. The tech is performed from the ground, and *puts* you in the air. At its core, this tech is just a dash jump, but it flips your facing. A clinical name for it would be something like "reverse dash jump." A lot of players were already using this to perform instant reverse bairs (see: literally every palu player that does dthrow bair), and treated it as an extension of the RAR or dashdance mechanics. The main "new" thing gimr brought to the table is that it's bufferable, since no one had really done a deep dive into how the mechanic worked before this.
Yeh slingshotting is way more consistent and easy to input tho since you can fully buffer it, It also let's you control your drift better, Gimr had a good example in the showcase with palu down throw to back air.
11:24 This is the future meta of sheik. Fair slingshot into needles bouncing fish is sick.
Flickshot, holdshot, or fullshot? :)
@@RED_MUGEN That's Flickshot neutral B
@@Drone_DD Alright cool. Thanks.
Jesus Christ it’s so strong as whiff punishing and hurtbox moving holy fuck
There will definitely be tournament stocks closed from this tech
the sheik meltdown at the start sent me
cant believe void has to admit sheik is good now
@@pokemanic100 yes void is finally good
Sent you? Where?
@@pokemanic100 i thought he was a sheik believer more than anything
That scream destroyed my eardrums. *And I’m not even a headphones user.*
1:45 Not only is this whole video showcasing slingshots, but do we have an IDJ AND a footstool mixed into a zero to death? Void uses ALL the tech!
Yes he does, precisely why I came here after the new tech drop.
Void is playing Westballz melee man
6:25 slingshot out of range and then punish so clean
11:25 slingshot into needles is fking amazing
I dont think that amount of needles is true though. It looked like the falcon tried to jump
@@carlos41519 Probably not, but it does cover multiple options though. Even if the falcon airdodged sheik can def still follow up with back air or something. Or if they tried immediate up b it would obviously just get bonked.
@@carlos41519 Doesn't matter. Humans aren't perfect computers.
@@carlos41519 it is at a high enough percent
0:40 Whenever Tom Cat stubs his toe.
I'm actually so mad atm, I let an assignment go overdue, skipped a group presentation, and an online final exam to see Gimr's tech showcase, and if after all this it doesn't happen today I'm going to be so pissed. Actually don't know what to do with myself right now
I believe in you man, grind it out
please rethink ur priorities man
@@G13ULTRA it's a copypasta
@@G13ULTRA it's a copypasta
if what doesn't happen?
Sheik just moved up the tier list. That is nuttier movement than Melee Sheik. Finally some tech that actually puts some real sauce in Ultimate.
If fair killed like in melee, then it would make sheik the best character in the game
Def not nuttier than melee sheik lol
@@zardsire2012 If fair sent at the disgusting angle it sends at in Melee, this matchup would be awful for Chrom, Ike, Ganon, and Mac with this tech.
Don't get me wrong ult sheik definitely has way better movement now but no way its nuttier than melee sheik
it’s really hard to say; this is a system level tech so every character gets to use it; unless you *somehow* already know who benefits from it, and how much, you really can’t know where sheik ends up in the tier list just from watching what it does for sheik specifically
1:47 this whole sequence.
Edit: actually, 11:25. That sequence. That was it.
void's sheik actually hurts my feelings every time he kills a falcon offstage.
8:35 void expecting a shoto player to not lag when playing on wifi?
Man Sheik has some good stuff going for her, I hope someday she can get the recognition she deserves.
_Later_
oops sheik top 5 lolol
For her? Don't you mean him?
@@snakebebop Is this a void joke or do you not know the plot of OOT?
@@Sprocket_777 Its pretty much stated in the japanese version of OOT than Sheik is a he (because of magic)
That was completly lost on the traduction, and they changed Sheik gender in smash 4
@@anonyme4881 Sheik was no longer magically a boy in Smash Brawl either. Regardless of what was implied in OOT’s manga, her design from Brawl was taken from Twilight Princess where she would have been tied more to Zelda just like her appearance in Hyrule Warriors.
Furthermore, her initial introduction was to be shrouded in mystery but she was always Zelda therefore always female.
@@gourilla9381 No, its way more than just the manga. (BTW Nintendo manga never give a fuck to the original material)
In the original OOT, Japanese version, Sheik use the most mainliest way possible to describe oneself.
There is no single "I" in japanese language. There are actually tons of way to say to say "I" in japanese. Like 64 page of way to say I in a japanese language books
Some are female only, some are man only, some are mainly male, some are mainly female, and lots are neutral.
Sheik wasnt using one of the mostly male way to say "I" like 99,9999999% of crossdressing/tomboy/trans female character in manga/anime/videogame use, Sheik was using a man only way to say "I"
And its noteworthy because EVEN BOYS dont use the male only way often. All shonen manga boys use a mostly male variant for exemple
Thats what started the whole debate to begin with.
An outsider translating it would just think of it as "oh well, Zelda is just in a guy disguise so she use male pronom. Anyway its "I am Sheik" anyway"
Someone who knows about Japanese tradition would know that there are tons of pronom for real crossdressing girl that tons of male use.
Add the fact that Sheik official portrait in OOT got a way different physics than Zelda that would be impossible without magic and the fact that Sheik is written as a different personnality. (Mainly pec and muscle for the physics)
Either way both gender are fine. Just a funny note of trivia and to point out that there are valid argument to say Sheik is a guy in OOT
Bro we need the bowser and krool sessions from todays stream, those slingshot upairs across the stage were insane
It's crazy to see how he's confortable with the slingshot, seems like he use it since the begining of the game
ngl void just fucking mashing the tech at just about all times in this video is really funny
Best way to practice it is to spam the shit out of it and see what happens.
smash is about to evolve into who can and who can't easily implement this tech into their play
Nah, there are a ton of more punishes or you could just jump back and reset neutral, you don't have to stay there forever, people already knew that when Light pressure you in the corner for just holding shield.
This is a lot easier than wavedashing so I doubt people will have trouble with it.
@@erickalvarez6486
Name the punishes then
@@jesuspernia8031 any good out of shield option that isn’t a grab
@@patrickburton1401 Like what? Any grounded move needs +12 frames tacked on so shield can drop. Spot dodge will be hit unless you wait with it, but that just puts you back in the loop without changing anything. Can't footstool out of shield with this.
You're going to have to parry and react, roll backwards, or get a hard read to best this. No more braindead grabbing out if shield or spot dodge spamming. No more unga bunga up smash out of shield either.
Every character is gonna have a bigger combo tree
Slingshot up air drag down into up smash on battlefield is sick. I've seen a similar slingshot back air drag down loop with pichu. Seems really broken.
Void about to get be a top top player for the next few months atleast.
5:20 GOOD LORD.
Void do you use Port Forwarding on your router? Nintendo has a guide on it. Most people recommend ports 45000-65535 to be opened for the game to not lag online.
That ending was amazing , you dodged the grab and got the needles. very nice.
This game is now short hop aerial the game... The PM players got their wish...
Ive been waiting so long for this vid ever since i hopped on the twitch. This tech, and you, have inspired me to play this game again
void making Sheik always look stylish and hype AF
0:40 what is happening?
This tech reminds me of just a aerial wavedash, just help with overall movement you never really have to put overself in a disadvantage I would have just named is AWD for aerial washdash
The way to counter is tech is just to callout their jump timing mixup I like the tech because it makes the buffer system feel like shitty, and remember to can also.hold up back with will help a charter like Terry and get turnaround up air with can can get a true follow up of so
Except it's not an "aerial wavedash" at all. The tech is performed from the ground, and *puts* you in the air. At its core, this tech is just a dash jump, but it flips your facing. A clinical name for it would be something like "reverse dash jump." A lot of players were already using this to perform instant reverse bairs (see: literally every palu player that does dthrow bair), and treated it as an extension of the RAR or dashdance mechanics. The main "new" thing gimr brought to the table is that it's bufferable, since no one had really done a deep dive into how the mechanic worked before this.
@@caliburnleaf9323 gotcha, but I mainly just dont like the name of the tech.
@@longthanyouthink The name fits though? What would you call it?
1:18 and every time he plays is just character mastery at its finest
And the footstool after was disgusting
That last clip was too clean 👌🏾
even the movement at 3:30 looks so hard to hit lol
That dead read at 1:35 jfc
7:26 don’t you get the exact same result with attack cancel?
Yeh slingshotting is way more consistent and easy to input tho since you can fully buffer it, It also let's you control your drift better, Gimr had a good example in the showcase with palu down throw to back air.
You can also fullhop out of a Slingshot or delay the aerial, which you cannot do with AC.
@@dc_dachi that sounds more like it, because in both of those techs you cant buffer the whole thing.
I dont think ive ever heard VoiD scream like he did in the beginning DAMN
Some dude said its not even real because he didnt know if he did it or not, dumbest thing iv ever heard
Needles to the toes son. The last one was sick af
And so it begins
I like that you can buffer a slingshot off of the angel platform
Is this hard to do in game? I’ve just started playing smash and have about 4 months experience.
void smells like and retweet
AOUGH OUGH OGH OGH OGH OGH
🔁
void2 AOUGH OUGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH
Bro that reverse Nair is so steezy
(uh oh!☹️ ) BACK TO THE LAB AGAIN! (oh no!😬 ) BACK TO THE LAB AGAIN! (We messed up😱 ) BACK TO THE LAB AGAIN! (Not again😒 ) BACK TO THE LAB AGAIN!🤓/
Me having a days free time so I decide to practice some old tech.
3 days later:
4:10 "Which means, if you hit something or someone, you will have to time it later."
Hm. That sounds very familiar :D
(L-canceling)
void sheik is a work of art
Yes!!!!
this is some melee type stuff
4:50 he covered two get up options somehow wtfff
That young link was pretty nice--uzo? Never heard of em but they were solid.
Bro that last clip Kreygasm
I made it into a VOID Vid!!! (I’m the cloud named Coopr that got destroyed)
I hope i can get better at this
lightfan21 boutta tear up the streets
Sorry Void, can you upload a comparison video of you playing with slingshot and without cuz my casual eyes can't tell the difference
It's just that you reach max airspeed faster
AOUGH OUGH OGH OGH OGH OGH
This is crazy good. I love this tech
Bro the end clip felt so good
Am i missing something? Why did he want sheik off the screen so bad?
So people don't realise how broke she is
Nice gameplay bro
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Not gonna lie Sheik be looking broken here.
I search slingshot and it says "it's a hype weapon for void".
Damn, Muscle Dylan got his ass kicked
YOOOOOO let’s gooo new tech
Lol, VoiD doesn't want other people to know about new Sheik tech.
The juice is loose ladies and gents
*puts on boomer glasses* all I see is a way to destroy your controllers 3x faster
THE LAST CLIP HOLY SHIT
And why don't you play like that in tournaments?
Your mechanics are
to clean
I fucking love void
Smooving
okay wtf, sheik is op with this lol
Jesus christ give us a volume warning XD
I’m so excited
void2 AOUGH OUGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH OGH
Haha funny back to the lab
This makes an already jump centric game even more jumpy. Looks as mashy as nick all stars
❤️
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